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| tortoisedoc | hey ho | 09:39 |
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| tortoisedoc | is martin schüle here by chance? | 09:39 |
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| Helle | hrm, meh, filesystem nearly full and I need to go dig around where it has been storing stuff that is filling it up | 11:38 |
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| Helle | although, huh | 11:42 |
| Helle | a quick look doesn't show anything | 11:42 |
| Helle | this will be "fun" | 11:43 |
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| Joonaa_ | Hey, is there a limit to the amount of songs tracker can index? | 12:33 |
| Stskeeps | 2^32-1? | 12:35 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:35 |
| Joonaa_ | hmm... why would it not index all the songs on my phone then? | 12:35 |
| Joonaa_ | or alternatively, does the media player have limits? | 12:36 |
| Yaniel | it *should* index everything | 12:37 |
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| Joonaa_ | hrm :/ any alternative players that dont use the tracker? | 12:39 |
| Yaniel | quasarmx | 12:39 |
| Stskeeps | Joonaa_: it usually indexes everything but it's prone to crashes | 12:39 |
| Joonaa_ | yeah i got it to index exactly 5588 songs twice now | 12:40 |
| Yaniel | (which, ironically, also crashed routinely on me when scanning folders) | 12:40 |
| Joonaa_ | but there should be more | 12:40 |
| Yaniel | but that seems to have been fixed | 12:40 |
| Yaniel | 5.6k? nice | 12:40 |
| Yaniel | I "only" have 1.4k | 12:40 |
| Joonaa_ | ill try quasarmx | 12:41 |
| Joonaa_ | thanks | 12:41 |
| FireFly | Any other differences? different file formats for files scanned/not scanned? | 12:42 |
| Joonaa_ | no, all opus | 12:42 |
| FireFly | Assuming it indexes the same 5588 songs each time | 12:42 |
| FireFly | Hmm | 12:42 |
| * FireFly dunno | 12:42 | |
| Joonaa_ | it also doesnt read the song name tags, but albums and artists work ok-ish | 12:42 |
| Joonaa_ | ok-ish as in, at least some of them work | 12:43 |
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| Joonaa_ | hmm, does quasar scan for opus files? | 12:50 |
| Joonaa_ | dont think it does | 12:55 |
| Yaniel | hmm? | 12:55 |
| Yaniel | I'd expect it to | 12:55 |
| Joonaa_ | it only found mp3s for me | 12:56 |
| Yaniel | oh it doesn't list it on the webpage | 12:56 |
| Yaniel | works fine for me with mp3, m4a and flac | 12:56 |
| Yaniel | and at one point I had some ogg files which worked too | 12:56 |
| Yaniel | I guess it's time to bug the dev about opus support then :P | 12:57 |
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| Venemo | Joonaa_: I believe you should file a bug report on together if you have issues with it | 13:26 |
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| Joonaa_ | once im home ill do that | 13:32 |
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| sqozz | like somebody whould care on together | 15:59 |
| sqozz | maybe the alienvm can handle it after the next update but sailfish is somewhat froozen on progress while android gets so much attention | 16:01 |
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| sakustar | well | 17:53 |
| sakustar | pokemon go should be first priority | 17:53 |
| sakustar | albeit keeping the jolla for some battery life is nice | 17:54 |
| sakustar | once you get lost deep inside the woods chasing them pokeymans you can call for help :-) | 17:55 |
| tbr | I would not recommend trying pokemon go on aliendalvik unless your account is a throwaway | 17:57 |
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| tbr | ingress, essentially the same platform banned pretty much everyone who played ingress on sailfish | 17:58 |
| tbr | seems it triggered their anti-cheating stuff | 17:58 |
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| japa-fi | Is there a way to undo latest system update? I can't select any personal ringtones, the phone lost them and can't find any. Also "callrec" (call recorder) doesn't work any more. | 19:10 |
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| M-schmittlauch | japa-fi In general the only option to undo the update is a factory reset and then installing multiple old updates again, until you're at the version you want. There is no direct way back. | 19:23 |
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| japa-fi | M-schmittlauch, Darn, just what i feared for. | 19:27 |
| japa-fi | Isn't factory reset pretty much the same wiping everything? Ie. it also gets rid of installed apps and app data? | 19:27 |
| Yaniel | yes | 19:28 |
| M-schmittlauch | Yes, it is. App data is mostly stored in ~/.local/share/ | 19:28 |
| M-schmittlauch | sometimes also ~/.config | 19:28 |
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| Ingvix | what android api version jolla phone has? | 21:13 |
| Ingvix | I'm not sure if api was the right word here | 21:14 |
| Dotti_ | 4.1 I think | 21:15 |
| Nicd- | 4.4 | 21:16 |
| Ingvix | Nicd-, you sure? | 21:16 |
| Nicd- | hm, it might have been 4.4 on the tablet only | 21:19 |
| Ingvix | Yes, I think phone has 4.1 and tablet 4.4 and C got even later | 21:20 |
| Ingvix | not sure what | 21:20 |
| Ingvix | though I'm not entirely sure but I think it was something like that | 21:21 |
| Ingvix | https://together.jolla.com/question/76658/current-android-version/ | 21:25 |
| Ingvix | 4.1.2 it seems | 21:25 |
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| Ingvix | is api something that also needs compatible hardware or would it be just programmically theoreticly possible to update the android api in sailfish | 21:28 |
| Ingvix | in jolla phone | 21:30 |
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| M-schmittlauch | Ingvix: Usually newer Android versions also need newer kernels. Every Android version has it's recommended Linux kernel version. I wouldn't say it's impossible, but being stuck on kernel 3.4 forever makes things quite complicated | 21:33 |
| M-schmittlauch | Btw, Android OS version and API version aren't necessarily the same. The Jolla phone's dalvik is derived from an Android 4.1.2 and supports the API level 16 | 21:35 |
| Ingvix | oh | 21:35 |
| Ingvix | thanks | 21:35 |
| Ingvix | I'm still a bit lost with these terms so it kernel like the device's base code through which the os communicates with the hardware? | 21:40 |
| Ingvix | or is kernel a piece of hardware its self? | 21:40 |
| Renault | Ingvix: the kernel (named Linux) is piece of software | 21:42 |
| Ingvix | okay | 21:43 |
| r0kk3rz | Ingvix: your first description is pretty close, its not the devices base code but it is a core poart of the operating system which governs hardware use | 21:49 |
| Ingvix | okay, nice to know | 21:50 |
| M-schmittlauch | The problem about the kernel here is that it's the basic part of software that communicates with the hardware. To do it properly it needs "drivers". Hardware manufacturers often provide their proprietary drivers only for exactly one kernel version, in this case 3.4. That's why the kernel can't be updated to a newer version | 21:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | these days a lot of it might be covered under open drivers | 22:02 |
| r0kk3rz | but certainly jolla wont be working on anything like that | 22:03 |
| M-schmittlauch | r0kk3rz: Open drivers would be great, sadly I don't see that in the near future. | 22:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | M-schmittlauch: its one of those things we would have to investigate ourselves | 22:08 |
| M-schmittlauch | r0kk3rz: You remeber the vivaldi tablet? Open drivers can quickly break due to hw changes. And small communities mean nothing to those manufacturers constantly ignoring the GPL | 22:09 |
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