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| pp_ | zebbiz_pi: figure out the url format and just mirror them with curl (maybe :P ) | 06:51 |
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| Timbo_ | coderus: i got it working finally!! | 08:13 |
| Timbo_ | downloaded other factory image, new-jolla.img and it worked right away. | 08:15 |
| Timbo_ | maybe that file i downloaded from your link got broken or smth | 08:15 |
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| Timbo_ | But thank you for help.. :) and kimmoli too! | 08:21 |
| phlixi_ | hmmm, someone wrote me a text "hey, delete this number, i am getting a new one, ill text you once i got it" | 08:24 |
| phlixi_ | well, i did nothing | 08:24 |
| phlixi_ | now i get "hi, this is my new number" | 08:25 |
| phlixi_ | and i was a bit surprised, because its within the same comnversation, well, i checked thecontact and it has two numbers | 08:25 |
| phlixi_ | any idea how i can check which numbers the messages came from? because, well, obviously one of the already saved numbers has to be the old one | 08:26 |
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| kimmoli | heh | 08:28 |
| kimmoli | from sql... | 08:29 |
| phlixi_ | i was afraid of that answer :D | 08:29 |
| temmi_hoo | is it possibly from hangouts conversation? | 08:29 |
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| phlixi_ | hang what? | 08:30 |
| phlixi_ | :D | 08:30 |
| phlixi_ | thats sms | 08:30 |
| phlixi_ | no doubt about that | 08:30 |
| temmi_hoo | everlasting allseeing eye, the large letter between f and h on your kezbored | 08:31 |
| phlixi_ | yeah, i also wanna hang google | 08:31 |
| phlixi_ | just kidding, i know hangouts, well, have heard of it, i try to avoid google services | 08:32 |
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| coderus | Timbo_: new-jolla.img is mine, jolla.img you mentioned earlier is not mine. | 08:44 |
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| chriadam | fyi https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-components-webview | 08:53 |
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| lainwir3d | o/ | 09:29 |
| chriadam | hi | 09:29 |
| Acce | chriadam: how is it different from the existing SilicaWebview? more complete functionality? | 09:38 |
| chriadam | Acce: SilicaWebView is based on QtWebKit's WebView | 09:40 |
| chriadam | Sailfish.WebView is a thin wrapper around the Gecko (qmozembed) Mozilla rendering engine. | 09:40 |
| chriadam | basically, it should render things better, be more mobile-friendly. | 09:41 |
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| Acce | ah, cool | 10:05 |
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| lainwir3d_ | can't wait to get my jolla c | 10:49 |
| lainwir3d_ | hope it'll be sent soon | 10:49 |
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| Renault | lainwir3d_: me too :D | 11:39 |
| lainwir3d_ | hey Renault !! Didn't know you were hanging out here :P | 11:43 |
| Renault | since the Jolla C second batch I watch IRC channels | 11:45 |
| Renault | because my Jolla first one edition was stolen in February... | 11:46 |
| lainwir3d_ | ouch | 11:46 |
| lainwir3d_ | crap | 11:46 |
| lainwir3d_ | bad luck | 11:46 |
| lainwir3d_ | the guy probably isn't using it, since he doesn't know how it works lol | 11:46 |
| Renault | yes, but it's ok now :) | 11:46 |
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| Renault | probably, I locked my phones with a code | 11:47 |
| lainwir3d_ | hehe | 11:48 |
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| Renault | so, you continue to use Fedora? :D | 11:50 |
| r0kk3rz | someone stole my jphone in BCN, and i saw him looking at it thinking "wtf is this?" | 11:50 |
| r0kk3rz | which is probably why he didnt resist giving it back | 11:50 |
| Renault | BCN ? | 11:51 |
| LarstiQ | Barcelona | 11:51 |
| Renault | ok | 11:51 |
| tadzik | lol | 11:51 |
| Renault | so my robber remove the battery too quicly to notice the system difference I think | 11:52 |
| tadzik | maybe they were just after the battery | 11:53 |
| tadzik | "holy shit, I could get a spare battery for jolla from that" | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: that might actually be more worth than the phone | 11:53 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:53 |
| lainwir3d_ | :D | 11:53 |
| lainwir3d_ | Renault: yeah, still using it. Still the best bleeding edge / stability / user-friendly value distibution out there. | 11:54 |
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| Renault | yes, of course :) But you're less involve into the community, isn't you? | 11:56 |
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| lainwir3d_ | true | 11:59 |
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| gan | Hi | 13:06 |
| gan | i need help | 13:08 |
| gan | i am unable to reset my jolla mobile | 13:08 |
| gan | it asks for security code and reboots | 13:08 |
| lainwir3d_ | call 112 | 13:08 |
| lainwir3d_ | :D | 13:08 |
| lainwir3d_ | reset ? full reset ? | 13:08 |
| gan | and the corrupted os still remains | 13:08 |
| gan | settings->reset device | 13:09 |
| gan | option | 13:09 |
| gan | i also tried recovery mode, option 1 | 13:09 |
| gan | it runs for few seconds and i get /mnt@home read only error | 13:09 |
| lainwir3d_ | what happens exactly in the corrupted os ? | 13:09 |
| gan | and telnet closes | 13:09 |
| gan | aahh... whatsapp corrupted, android apps corrupted | 13:10 |
| gan | issue with app registry | 13:10 |
| gan | tried fixing it but it didnt work | 13:10 |
| gan | now, even calls and sms are not going | 13:10 |
| gan | people shows empty | 13:10 |
| gan | messages show empty | 13:10 |
| gan | pls help me fix this issue | 13:12 |
| gan | i am going crazy without my phone | 13:12 |
| gan | i have most of the data backup | 13:13 |
| gan | now i just wanna reset my OS | 13:13 |
| Yaniel | btrfs exploded? | 13:13 |
| gan | dont know what it means | 13:13 |
| gan | tried btrfs command in srecovery shell | 13:13 |
| Yaniel | (seriously, btrfs has probably been the best tool for planned obsolescence I've seen to date :D ) | 13:13 |
| gan | but command not found | 13:13 |
| lainwir3d_ | :D | 13:13 |
| lainwir3d_ | might sounds like btrfs | 13:14 |
| Yaniel | btrfs - the filesystem used on the jolla - is rather buggy in the version on the phone | 13:14 |
| Renault | Yaniel: but btrfs was improved since the version used by SailfishOS | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | that's also what we said when we started with btrfs | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | that it was much improved in the kernel version we chose | 13:14 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:14 |
| lainwir3d_ | :D | 13:14 |
| Yaniel | might be, might not be, I haven't used it anywhere else | 13:14 |
| lainwir3d_ | I hope Jolla C is using lvm+ext4 | 13:15 |
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| Stskeeps | it is | 13:15 |
| Yaniel | as is the tablet, no? | 13:15 |
| lainwir3d_ | well, won't be too sad if not, I can manage btrfs trouble myself | 13:15 |
| Renault | Use real distros like Fedora or OpenSuse to see it in another conditions :) | 13:15 |
| lainwir3d_ | nice | 13:15 |
| lainwir3d_ | the tablet is, that's for sure | 13:15 |
| lainwir3d_ | Renault: using it at home + work on fedora 24 | 13:15 |
| lainwir3d_ | well, difficult to compare, I don't have only a 16GB hd | 13:16 |
| Yaniel | I don't think anyone at Jolla wants to subject themselves to fixing/backporting btrfs stuff any longer than necessary :P | 13:16 |
| lainwir3d_ | the problems on the phone comes mainly because of space available | 13:16 |
| gan | guys, please help me | 13:17 |
| gan | what to do to reset my device | 13:17 |
| Renault | yes, it's true, to avoid that I used SD cards (my previous Jolla stocks only some data on the phone but the space left is big) | 13:17 |
| gan | infact phone memory is 6.2 GB used out of 13 o | 13:17 |
| Yaniel | that is probably a lie | 13:17 |
| lainwir3d_ | gan: what command gave you that result ? | 13:17 |
| gan | memory app | 13:18 |
| Renault | btrfs can't send correct infos about size memory left | 13:18 |
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| lainwir3d_ | gan: try => btrfs fi show | 13:19 |
| gan | could not open /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 13:21 |
| gan | brtfs v3.16 | 13:21 |
| gan | ok i logged in root | 13:22 |
| gan | error: unable to get label inappropriate ioctl for device | 13:22 |
| gan | label: 'sailfish' uuid: some registry key like data... | 13:23 |
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| gan | total devices 1 FS bytes used 5.54 GiB | 13:23 |
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| gan | devid 1 size 13.75 GiB used 13.75 GiB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 13:23 |
| Yaniel | well, that's your problem | 13:24 |
| gan | what is the problem? | 13:24 |
| Yaniel | your memory is full | 13:24 |
| lainwir3d_ | full btrfs filesystem | 13:24 |
| gan | but i deleted many data | 13:24 |
| lainwir3d_ | have to run a balance | 13:24 |
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| Yaniel | btrfs metadata happily takes the freed space :P | 13:25 |
| gan | what to do now | 13:25 |
| gan | hope i havent done anything worse | 13:25 |
| gan | yet | 13:25 |
| Renault | another bug about the space left calculation :) | 13:25 |
| gan | 5.54 Gb is used right/ | 13:26 |
| gan | ? | 13:26 |
| gan | ok tell me what to do now | 13:26 |
| Yaniel | your files use 5.45GB | 13:27 |
| lainwir3d_ | btrfs-balancer balance | 13:27 |
| Yaniel | but the filesystem stores metadata about the files and itself | 13:27 |
| Yaniel | which, on the Jolla tends to explode | 13:27 |
| gan | is that the full command? | 13:27 |
| gan | btrfs-balancer balance | 13:27 |
| gan | pls confirm , so i can do it right away | 13:27 |
| lainwir3d_ | yep, but please, plug your phone to a power source, and consider it might take a VERY LONG time, and interrupting it might not work out so well. | 13:28 |
| lainwir3d_ | and that, considering what you said, it might be too late | 13:29 |
| lainwir3d_ | but well, won't make things worse I guess | 13:29 |
| lainwir3d_ | is your sailfish version uptodate | 13:29 |
| lainwir3d_ | ? | 13:29 |
| tadzik | or btrfs lies to df | 13:30 |
| tadzik | df lies | 13:30 |
| tadzik | it's awful | 13:30 |
| gan | ok i am in office. better to do it at home i think | 13:31 |
| gan | then | 13:31 |
| gan | how long it takes generally | 13:32 |
| gan | battery at 88% | 13:32 |
| gan | but battery drains faster | 13:32 |
| Yaniel | Anywhere between 5 minutes and several days afaik | 13:32 |
| gan | will this fix the issue? so i can later do a reset? | 13:32 |
| gan | several days oooooh | 13:32 |
| gan | gosh | 13:32 |
| lainwir3d_ | told you haha | 13:32 |
| Yaniel | Fixing the issue is what rebalancing is for | 13:33 |
| lainwir3d_ | but if your files really use "only" 5~6GB, it shouldn't be too long | 13:33 |
| Yaniel | But it might fail | 13:33 |
| gan | worse case if it fails then? | 13:33 |
| lainwir3d_ | what's sure, is that you probably can't reset the device until this issue is solved | 13:33 |
| Yaniel | If it fails and you can still boot the device to retry then not much worse | 13:34 |
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| Yaniel | If it fails more then you need to reflash the device I think | 13:34 |
| lainwir3d_ | yeah | 13:34 |
| lainwir3d_ | restore a system image, or something like that | 13:34 |
| Yaniel | Or rather, send it to care for reflashing | 13:34 |
| gan | http://www.htheb.com/list/index.php?dir=jolla%2Ffactoryimage%2F | 13:34 |
| gan | i downloaded this factory image | 13:35 |
| gan | and kept it in pc | 13:35 |
| lainwir3d_ | probably involving lots of coffee, and velociraptors. | 13:35 |
| gan | u mean to say if btrfs issue is not fixed, i cant flash using the image too? | 13:35 |
| lainwir3d_ | no, that will be fine | 13:35 |
| lainwir3d_ | is btrfs issue is not fixed, you won't be able to use the reset function I guess, but that's different from reflashing | 13:36 |
| gan | whats the difference reset and reflashing | 13:36 |
| lainwir3d_ | this is very theoric, I haven't had to do anything like this yet. | 13:36 |
| gan | between | 13:36 |
| gan | what do you recommend guys | 13:36 |
| gan | ?? | 13:36 |
| lainwir3d_ | I usually guess very early when btrfs is starting to be a bad cowboy, so I do a preventive balance | 13:37 |
| lainwir3d_ | gan: I recommend do the btrfs balance, then try again the btrfs fi show | 13:37 |
| gan | as u run btrfs-balancer balance every now and then to avoid this issue??? | 13:37 |
| lainwir3d_ | if it shows free space | 13:37 |
| lainwir3d_ | try to reset the device | 13:37 |
| lainwir3d_ | reflash the device as a last resort | 13:37 |
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| lainwir3d_ | gan: if your sailfish device is up-to-date, it should run from time to time by itself | 13:38 |
| lainwir3d_ | just ensure you don't fill up the filesystem with too much data | 13:38 |
| lainwir3d_ | but well, running yourself btrfs balancing from time to time isn't a bad idea | 13:38 |
| lainwir3d_ | especially if you notice your device is starting to act weird | 13:39 |
| gan | hmm ok. | 13:39 |
| gan | yes its uptodate | 13:39 |
| gan | taalojarvi | 13:41 |
| gan | is there any drawback from reflashing | 13:41 |
| gan | compared to reset | 13:41 |
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| lainwir3d_ | not really if you're sure of the image source | 13:42 |
| lainwir3d_ | it's just more complicated usually | 13:42 |
| gan | hmm | 13:43 |
| gan | ok i will try this btrfs today | 13:43 |
| gan | and lets see. | 13:43 |
| gan | thanks for your help | 13:43 |
| lainwir3d_ | no pb | 13:43 |
| lainwir3d_ | :) | 13:43 |
| gan | also my display is kinda having an issue | 13:44 |
| gan | i can see some brown patch underneath the lcs screen below the volume key on the right | 13:44 |
| gan | any of you guys here ordered the turing phone?? I missed it :-( | 13:45 |
| gan | LCD* | 13:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | heh i wouldnt go ordering that one just yet | 13:53 |
| r0kk3rz | getting an off the shelf phone and then a replacement at sometime in the future with the real device? yeah no thanks | 13:54 |
| Yaniel | let's see if it has become reality in 3 or so years when I'm planning to switch phones next time | 13:54 |
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| gan | replacement is free for ofcourse!!! | 14:20 |
| gan | not a bad thing isnt it | 14:20 |
| gan | ? | 14:20 |
| Yaniel | assuming you ever get it... | 14:20 |
| r0kk3rz | its setting off my Scam-O-Meter, but maybe you'rs is calibrated differently | 14:21 |
| gan | didnt you read the news on turing phone... its shipping on july 12th..... | 14:23 |
| gan | if they do ship....i wud feel really bad for missing it :-( | 14:24 |
| r0kk3rz | thats not the TuringPhoneTM though, thats 'off the shelf placeholder' | 14:24 |
| gan | given that my jolla is almost fried now with OS issues and LCD problems... | 14:24 |
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| gan | Guys, | 14:54 |
| gan | my jolla developed memory issue just few days after i enabled backup chat history in google drive in whatsapp | 14:54 |
| gan | could that have caused my btrfs to become full? | 14:55 |
| Yaniel | It tends to fill during normal usage | 14:56 |
| gan | how can i avoid this issue in future? | 14:56 |
| gan | after last reset, i made it a point to monitor my phone memory and i never exceeded 7 GB out of 13 GB....only now i realised that it is not what it seems | 14:57 |
| gan | despite memory showing 6 GB used out of 13 GB... my btrfs is full | 14:57 |
| Yaniel | Rebalance occasionally | 14:58 |
| Yaniel | The phone should do it every Tuesday around 3am if it is plugged in at that time | 14:58 |
| gan | sure | 14:58 |
| Yaniel | Automatically that is | 14:58 |
| gan | i almost keep it plugged daily at night | 14:58 |
| gan | i wonder why it occurred | 14:59 |
| Yaniel | No idea | 14:59 |
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| phlixi_o | [2016-07-07 16:58:24] <Yaniel> The phone should do it every Tuesday around 3am if it is plugged in at that time <<<- is that for real, or a joke? | 15:00 |
| gan | lol @ phlixi | 15:00 |
| phlixi_o | and if real, what timezone? local? or UTC | 15:00 |
| gan | ahh good catch time zone | 15:00 |
| LarstiQ | there is but one timezone | 15:01 |
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| Yaniel | IIRC it was announced 1.5 years ago | 15:02 |
| Yaniel | Automatic rebalances for everyone* | 15:02 |
| Yaniel | *conditions apply | 15:02 |
| phlixi_o | i thought it does that before every system update (not since the beginning, but for the last versions and in future) | 15:03 |
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| Yaniel | That too | 15:04 |
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| gan | hi | 19:28 |
| gan | i ran btrfs-balancer balance | 19:28 |
| gan | in my jolla | 19:28 |
| gan | and space now 8.25 GB available | 19:28 |
| gan | i restarted ....i was able to see contacts and messages....which wasnt working earlier | 19:29 |
| gan | then clicked rebuild app registry..... | 19:29 |
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| gan | and now my jolla is not starting | 19:29 |
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| gan | even after pressing power button nothing happens...no vibration or LED blinks | 19:30 |
| gan | pls help | 19:30 |
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| gan | anyone there | 19:38 |
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