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Joonaahello, it seems that my jolla has read my songs fine, but the media player shows the filename as the song name03:57
Joonaathe artist shows normally under the song name, they are categorized by album etc, but the name is filename instead of song name03:57
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YanielYea it does that when it fails to read the tags05:35
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Joonaawell, it manages to read artist and album tags at least05:47
Joonaabut not song name?05:47
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YanielStrange are tracker's ways06:11
chriadamthat's one way to pu tit06:15
Joonaai suppose i can try again06:17
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chriadamIZh: kimmoli has a question that you might be able to help with: https://github.com/kimmoli/sfos-onyx-issues/issues/14 what causes that?07:09
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r0kk3rzpvuorela: due to silly issues with askbot, its impossible to highlight you on TJC09:51
pvuorelar0kk3rz: oh, where would you have done that?09:57
r0kk3rzpvuorela: its a bug on TJC due to the space in your name, it picks up another user @Pekka first09:59
r0kk3rzpvuorela: i was going to tag you in some UI feedback i came up with a while ago https://together.jolla.com/question/108192/incoming-call-dialog-ideas/09:59
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* kimmoli goes to downvote. all changes are from evil. viva la resistance.10:08
kimmoli:P10:09
r0kk3rz:D10:10
HartziThe first answer is stupid as hell...10:11
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kimmolifor that to work, you need parent and sibling pages to swipe to from then "do you want to answer this call" page...10:12
r0kk3rzkimmoli: its a design, not an implementation :P10:14
kimmoliyeah, as a spec it loogs great10:16
r0kk3rzHartzi: personally ive always found the up/down dialogs to be stupid as well, but each to their own10:18
kimmolithe accept direction of dialog would be easy10:18
r0kk3rz*hell10:19
kimmoliignore now just silents ringing and you need to do something to actually nagup10:19
kimmolihangup*10:19
Hartzir0kk3rz: up and down swipes are more confortable to do than left/right. Silica dialog is also ugly as hell.10:20
r0kk3rzHartzi: i find them more easy to do accidentally when handling the device10:21
r0kk3rzlike, taking out of pocket, or picking up from desk10:21
HartziI dont see any difference what comes to accidents10:22
Hartziboth lack some feeling of control10:22
r0kk3rzHartzi: you can always add your own suggestions, or add an answer saying 'no is stupid and solves nothing' if you like10:26
Hartzipropably10:33
phlixi_oi disagree, left and right is for pushing and poping stuff on/from a stack, and pulley is of course common in silicia apps10:34
phlixi_oin that sense it is consistent that you dont push or pop calls for answering/ingnoring, but instead ahve pulley or buttons10:35
phlixi_othat said i think sometimes buttons are better than pulley :-910:35
Hartziexactly10:36
r0kk3rzdoes the user need a push/pop mental model for sailfish?10:36
Hartzidialogs usuallu disappear when you do ok/cancel swipes10:38
Hartziusually*10:38
phlixi_owell, it feels naturally if you navigate a tree or such10:38
phlixi_oyou dont have know the concept of a stack, and know that it is a stack, it just feals natural10:39
phlixi_olike as if you havea list of podcasts, if you select one, you push, and get a list of episodes, you can pop to go back10:40
r0kk3rzcareful when arguing about what 'feels natural', that is inherently biased from your own experience10:40
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phlixi_otrue, but its natural if it is like that in all other apps10:40
r0kk3rzconsistency helps internalisation yes10:41
phlixi_oor a list of rss feeds, push one, get list of entires for one feed10:41
phlixi_obut i admit one could argue about pushing a call on the incomming call10:41
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phlixi_o...that makes it a bit awkward to me, that you want to drag into the other direction, because there is nothing to return to10:43
phlixi_onot sure if that is understandable10:43
r0kk3rzso, there is nothing but void before a call comes in?10:44
r0kk3rzwhere does the call dialog return to now?10:44
phlixi_oto the apps welcome screen?10:44
phlixi_oi dont know, i usually dont use phones for calls :D10:46
phlixi_oaccept at work, where i use an app to remorecontrol the "desktop phone"10:47
phlixi_oexcept*10:47
r0kk3rzheh10:47
r0kk3rzmy point was that yes, there is somewhere to return to10:48
r0kk3rzbut granted we dont use page transition for switching back to home screen10:49
phlixi_ooverall your argument might not be as bad as i thought in the beginning :D10:52
phlixi_oand by apps welcomescreen, i thought of the welcomescreen of the telefone app, not the homescreen of sfos10:53
phlixi_othis is ok i think, that the telefone app comes up if someone calls10:53
r0kk3rzthats not a bad idea10:54
r0kk3rzmaybe annoying if you get lots of calls, as its an extra swipe to get back to whatever you were doing10:54
r0kk3rzbut for me its rare that i am using my phone when i get a call10:55
phlixi_oyou could swipe (from outside) in the first place to minimize the phone app in the first plcace10:55
phlixi_oor the phone app coudl start minimized for an incoming call with accept coveraction10:56
phlixi_o(and in sfos1.0 with ignore as second option *sniff*)10:57
r0kk3rznah too cover is too small10:57
phlixi_osure?10:58
phlixi_oi dont think so10:58
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phlixi_oits not too small for other coverasctions11:00
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Timbo_Coderus: so finally i managed to try that flashing and ig started ok but somepoint it got interrupted and it said, not free space in device.. or smth like that16:16
coderuswell, then something is wrong.16:16
Timbo_apparently16:18
Timbo_Any ideas? Tried to start it and  passed jolla logo but then it says that need to contact care16:24
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coderushard to tell when you leaves and doesnt provide any actual logs16:33
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zebbiz_piAnyone know of a map where I can download satellite pictures to use as a map?19:18
Oni^try from nasa19:22
zebbiz_piI mean as you can download maps from google/HERE maps, but that's only roads etc19:26
zebbiz_piI prefer something more real19:27
pp_doesn't google have satellite mode too?19:27
zebbiz_piIt does, but how do I download it so I can use it offline?19:30
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pp_tiles should be just png images19:33
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pp_(played a bit with geocaching software at one point)19:34
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Timbo__ If you continue, this may void your warranty. Are you really SURE? [y/N] y[OK] No lockcode has been set. Proceeding... / # mount /dev/mmcblk1 /mnt / # dd if=/mnt/jolla.img of=/dev/mmcblk0p28 dd: writing '/dev/mmcblk0p28': No space left on device 28831712+0 records in 28831711+0 records out 14761836032 bytes (13.7GB) copied, 606.439738 seconds, 23.2MB/s19:43
Timbo__tried again.. same result19:43
coderusTimbo__: interesting, why it doesnt fit your mmc :D19:46
Timbo__wondering same.. the guy i got it from said that it went that way in the middle of updating19:47
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coderusyou not using mine img?19:48
Timbo__i am19:48
Timbo__that one you gave link earlier19:49
zebbiz_pipp_: How do you save the png images?19:51
Timbo__but why it says that 13.7gb copied19:51
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coderusyeah image size is actually 1476183603220:04
coderusso it should be okay20:04
HtheBcoderus o/20:07
HtheBwhats up20:07
HtheBany idea if you're going to update the launcher patch?20:07
HtheBto make it work for the latest SFOS?20:07
Timbo__but why it does that then..... maybe there is smth else wrong..20:09
coderusHtheB: i'm not sure if i have time for that20:09
HtheBis it opensource?20:10
coderussure20:10
HtheBah20:10
coderusfeel free to MR and i then check and publish update20:10
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Timbo__tried reset from recovery..20:26
Timbo__# mount -t btrfs -o skip_balance /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/ mount: mounting /dev/mmcblk0p28 on /mnt/ failed: Invalid argument20:26
Timbo__second last line where it stops20:27
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Timbo__https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Backup_Device21:06
Timbo__coserus: what about this21:07
Timbo__coderus even :)21:07
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Joonaareseting the tracker made things way worse.. damn.. now i have a ton of unknown artist as well21:28
Joonaaand unknown album21:28
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