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| niccs | Has anyone got refund? | 05:48 |
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| phlixi_ | niccs: not me, but i read in this channel that someone got mail fom paypal confirming money | 07:59 |
| niccs | Ok | 07:59 |
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| Yaniel | I did, yes | 09:08 |
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| citylight2 | who to make media player scan SD for songs? | 09:51 |
| r0kk3rz | citylight2: i never had to do anything special | 09:52 |
| stephg | citylight2: it's tracker | 09:53 |
| stephg | you can control the behaviour with tracker-control in a terminal and nuke it if you have the jolla utilities installed in settings | 09:54 |
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| gizmo___ | hi | 13:42 |
| gizmo___ | anyone by chance got an idea of how to prevent that the filesystem mounted through the recovery shell is read only? | 13:44 |
| gizmo___ | i was able to backup all necessary data from a bricked jolla.. but i can't seem to set it back to factory settings or delete etc. for that matter | 13:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | gizmo___: you are following the zendesk article? | 13:49 |
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| gizmo___ | r0kk3rz: yea | 13:50 |
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| gizmo___ | quick followup question? does anyone know if new phones will ever be sold again? | 14:04 |
| gizmo___ | the site says out of stock for quite a while now | 14:05 |
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| wysiwtf | i guess after the trouble with the tablet they said they are going to focus on the os for the time being? | 14:06 |
| gizmo___ | i wouldn't mind ditching this particular jolla phone and replace it with a new one.. but that doesn't seem to be an option given their current sales status :) | 14:06 |
| wysiwtf | there have been several attempts to run sailfish on 3rd party devices | 14:07 |
| wysiwtf | but i have no clue where its at | 14:07 |
| gizmo___ | its my daughters phone and i could give her mine for the time being (copy her data over..) but what am i going to do in the meantime? :D | 14:07 |
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| gizmo___ | seperating a teenager from her phone for longer than a couple of hours is _not_ recommended. next time i'll buy a backup phone :D | 14:08 |
| gizmo___ | wysiwtf: yeah. like the fairphone | 14:09 |
| gizmo___ | i'd rather prefer getting another jolla tbh | 14:09 |
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| tadzik | for me the lack of android support is a dealbreaker with 3rdparty for now | 14:11 |
| gizmo___ | oh wow, i think this thing is really broken by now.. i can't even mount /dev/mmcblk0p28 at all anymore | 14:11 |
| gizmo___ | after i tried the "set back to factory settings" option | 14:12 |
| gizmo___ | tadzik: i could live without it, but my daughter couldn't either | 14:13 |
| gizmo___ | whatsapp etc.. all these evil cloud apps... very important to her and her friends | 14:14 |
| gizmo___ | i'm happy with a proper shell | 14:16 |
| gizmo___ | :D | 14:16 |
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| tadzik | I could probably live without jakdojade.pl and Google Maps, but Steam Mobile Authenticator is a must :P | 14:17 |
| gizmo___ | haha | 14:19 |
| gizmo___ | i'm rarely switching machines with my steam account.. so i don't feel the need | 14:21 |
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| tadzik | it was a requirement for TF2 competitive beta, so I got it | 14:23 |
| tadzik | hate thing and how often I need to reach for it | 14:23 |
| r0kk3rz | gizmo___: is this a problem after the latest update? | 14:24 |
| * pahartik would like to buy another "Jolla Mobile" device, or actually two of them | 14:24 | |
| gizmo___ | r0kk3rz: yes | 14:24 |
| r0kk3rz | there was another person with a similar issue just recently | 14:24 |
| gizmo___ | the update bricked it basically | 14:25 |
| gizmo___ | or i think it did | 14:25 |
| r0kk3rz | update -> bootloop -> recovery -> brick? | 14:25 |
| gizmo___ | more or less | 14:25 |
| gizmo___ | between recovery and brick i managed to copy everything to an sd card | 14:26 |
| r0kk3rz | open a support ticket on zendesk | 14:26 |
| gizmo___ | then i did the factory reset | 14:26 |
| gizmo___ | and now it seems dead | 14:26 |
| gizmo___ | i can still enter recovery console | 14:26 |
| gizmo___ | but i can't mount anything anymore | 14:26 |
| r0kk3rz | the other person couldnt even get to recovery console | 14:27 |
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| gizmo___ | i wish i had bought several jollas back then | 14:28 |
| gizmo___ | not just the two we use | 14:28 |
| gizmo___ | r0kk3rz: too bad, i feel his/her pain | 14:28 |
| r0kk3rz | still, create a ticket, it helps to jolla team to track post-update problems like this | 14:29 |
| Raim | gizmo___: you are not alone with this btrfs problem apparently: https://together.jolla.com/question/133641/bricked-after-trying-update-to-20111-btrfs-balancing-issue/ | 14:30 |
| baffer | yeah I was the other guy | 14:31 |
| baffer | who got bricked | 14:31 |
| gizmo___ | baffer: hey | 14:31 |
| baffer | at first I could get to the recovery console, but after trying the btrfs rescvue option, I couldn't get to the console anymore | 14:32 |
| Raim | I am not sure you will be able to repair a completely broken btrfs... only if you got a full dd image of the mmcblk0p28 partition you could restore that. | 14:32 |
| gizmo___ | i had a similar problem with a laptop quite recently.. filesystem was in read only mode, nothing that could be done about it. wouldn't even boot past grub.. i had to take the drive out, fix it from another machine and put it back | 14:33 |
| gizmo___ | i still have the recover shell | 14:33 |
| gizmo___ | if someone could provide me a vanilla mmcblk0p28 image...? | 14:34 |
| gizmo___ | oh.. no dd in the rescue shell | 14:34 |
| gizmo___ | well that makes things a tad bit more complicated, but not impossible | 14:35 |
| gizmo___ | ah, no.. dd is still there | 14:36 |
| gizmo___ | hm | 14:37 |
| gizmo___ | i could copy the image from my jolla to my daughters phone | 14:37 |
| baffer | is it possible to mount jolla's drive on a computer and then write a new Sailfish OS image with dd to the drive? | 14:37 |
| gizmo___ | and then maybe do the factory reset and start over | 14:37 |
| gizmo___ | baffer: well i can use telnet to access the jolla at the moment | 14:38 |
| gizmo___ | and i can mount sd cards | 14:38 |
| baffer | I can't even use telnet anymore... thats why I'm asking :) | 14:38 |
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| gizmo___ | ah, true.. sorry. i forgot for a second | 14:38 |
| gizmo___ | a door just opened up for me | 14:38 |
| gizmo___ | sorry for being so selfish and ignorant | 14:39 |
| baffer | I didn't mean it like that, don't worry | 14:39 |
| gizmo___ | ok | 14:40 |
| gizmo___ | mounting it directly would indeed be great | 14:40 |
| r0kk3rz | baffer: jolla has flashing tools like that afaik | 14:41 |
| baffer | r0kk3rz: ok, so it's not really something you can DIY | 14:42 |
| Raim | baffer: Jolla supports fastboot as used for Android phones, that keyword should give you some hints | 14:42 |
| baffer | Raim: thanks | 14:42 |
| gizmo___ | i'll backup the image from my own phone in the meantime | 14:42 |
| gizmo___ | and try to flash it to the other | 14:43 |
| gizmo___ | wish me luck | 14:43 |
| Raim | baffer: hm, but there does not seem to be any compatible public image available. I only remembered it did use fastboot... :-( | 14:45 |
| Raim | gizmo___: https://together.jolla.com/question/134299/how-do-i-get-the-file-for-my-home-directory-into-readwrite-mode-using-the-jolla-recovery-v031-tool/ | 14:47 |
| Raim | gizmo___: that person has solved it, but did not share the solution yet... | 14:47 |
| baffer | Raim: I wonder if jolla customer service would be kind enough to share a compatible public image | 14:48 |
| Raim | baffer: I doubt it. I think it was due to licensing. | 14:49 |
| r0kk3rz | baffer: yeah no chance, we've been asking for this since day one | 14:50 |
| baffer | oh... :/ | 14:51 |
| baffer | so there is no solution really | 14:51 |
| Raim | baffer: but maybe you could load a working kernel and initramfs via fastboot to get access to the device again | 14:51 |
| baffer | hmmm.. | 14:51 |
| Raim | baffer: https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Backup_Device | 14:52 |
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| baffer | thanks, looks promising! | 14:55 |
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| gizmo___ | Raim: it would be too late for me now as i can't mount the image at all anymore after i tried factory reset | 14:59 |
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| baffer | fastboot doesn't seem to work... according to https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Sailfish/Backup_Device the led should turn red and I should be able to connect | 16:59 |
| baffer | but the led won't turn red | 16:59 |
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| gizmo____ | yay, it worked | 18:27 |
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| gizmo____ | so just in case someone gets stuck in a similar situation: | 18:28 |
| gizmo____ | format a large enough sdcard with ext4, go into rescue shell, mount the sdcard, dump the mmcblk0p28 from the working phone via dd onto the sd card and do the opposite on the bricked jolla (sd->jolla), then perform the factory reset | 18:30 |
| gizmo____ | my daughters jolla is now factory fresh.. yay | 18:30 |
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| PeperJohnny | congrats and thanks for the info | 18:38 |
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| Tegu | hm. trying to update but the "filesystem optimization" part prior to downloading seems to fail somehow. I press start, it shows a progress bar for a while but then it just comes back again and shows the "start filesystem otimization" btton ahain | 20:29 |
| Tegu | can't get past that phase.. I wonder what should be done | 20:30 |
| giucam | Tegu: free some space | 20:30 |
| Tegu | mm, I cold that. | 20:31 |
| Tegu | Icould try that* | 20:31 |
| Tegu | I should have a little over 10 GB used, but it's probabbly too much, I guess | 20:32 |
| giucam | Iirc i needed around 4gb free | 20:32 |
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| the_mgt | Tegu: a lttile over 10gb used could mean btrfs is already out of space. it simply sucks | 20:47 |
| the_mgt | i once had trouble with 9,7gb used space | 20:48 |
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| Tegu | the_mgt: too bad :\ I tried freeing about a gigabyte now. it hasn't thrown me back yet | 20:57 |
| gizmo____ | the bricked jolla here died btw. during that optimization | 20:57 |
| Tegu | eek | 20:58 |
| gizmo____ | so it was not the update that killed it | 20:58 |
| HtheB | gizmo____: brick? | 20:58 |
| HtheB | cant you dd it? | 20:58 |
| gizmo____ | yeah, filesystem was broken beyond repair | 20:59 |
| HtheB | not even telnet? | 20:59 |
| gizmo____ | i dd'ed another jolla onto an sd | 20:59 |
| gizmo____ | and dd'ed that over to the bricked one | 20:59 |
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| gizmo____ | HtheB: it was just /dev/mmcblk0p28 that was lost | 21:00 |
| gizmo____ | after that i could do a factory reset | 21:00 |
| HtheB | that ain't a total brick though | 21:00 |
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| HtheB | great ! | 21:00 |
| gizmo____ | no, i could still use the rescue console.. luckily | 21:01 |
| HtheB | is it alive now? | 21:01 |
| gizmo____ | yea | 21:01 |
| HtheB | \o/ | 21:01 |
| HtheB | dd ftw | 21:01 |
| gizmo____ | the only thing i can't play back is the contacts database at the moment as the folder is protected | 21:01 |
| HtheB | who doesn't love double D's? | 21:01 |
| HtheB | heh | 21:01 |
| gizmo____ | so i guess i have to go back to the rescue console, i guess | 21:02 |
| HtheB | good luck mate! | 21:02 |
| * HtheB is going to free up some space... | 21:02 | |
| HtheB | 1,5GB seems to be not enough | 21:02 |
| HtheB | ¬_¬ | 21:02 |
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| Tegu | at leas this seems to take longer now. mabe it's doing something | 21:03 |
| HtheB | to optimize (aka balance) it for the update | 21:03 |
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| pdanek | TMavica: man, will you stop ignoring me please? | 21:04 |
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| phlixi | youb know TMavica can not read this if you are on ignore pdanek, right? | 21:05 |
| pdanek | phlixi: why do you think I'm on his ignore list? | 21:05 |
| pdanek | I don't think I'm | 21:05 |
| phlixi | you just said to please stop ignore | 21:06 |
| pdanek | yes, stop ignoring me | 21:06 |
| pdanek | not meaning turning off ignore chat filter | 21:06 |
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| phlixi | pdanek you know /wohis right? TMavica has been idle 91hrs 26mins 56secs, signed on Sun May 08 03:43:35 2016 | 21:11 |
| phlixi | thus maybe not ignoring, but simply not recognizing. not everybody has some sort of ping/HL... | 21:12 |
| phlixi | (and that might have been just an automatic reconnect, thus "real" idle probably is much longer) | 21:12 |
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| Tegu | thanks, the filesystem optimization finished now. downloadng.. but I still think the program should say why it failed | 21:14 |
| pdanek | he's ignoring me last 6 months | 21:17 |
| pdanek | or keeps delaying | 21:17 |
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| HtheB | I find it annoying that my Whatsapp runs automatically | 21:35 |
| HtheB | even when I DIDN'T run it... | 21:35 |
| HtheB | automatic running/background process is turned off for Whatsapp | 21:36 |
| HtheB | How come it still runs in the background when running some other Android app? | 21:36 |
| pdanek | yeah, it's quite odd on Jolla | 21:36 |
| HtheB | I need to open WhatsApp, and close it manually to make it sure that it's closed :/ | 21:37 |
| HtheB | any ideas for a fix? | 21:37 |
| HtheB | (serious answers, so deleting the app itself is not an option :) ) | 21:37 |
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| pdanek | none that I know of | 21:44 |
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| cehteh | https://github.com/cehteh/wtfscache .. soo .. maybe that becomes fun on the jolla too, not tried yet, just started hacking on it | 22:48 |
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| tux|dude | Hello | 23:49 |
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