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| tadzik | eeheheeh: https://sailfishos.org/ "No space left on device" | 10:01 |
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| paulvt | oops | 10:04 |
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| Hartzi | tadzik: what's wrong? | 10:12 |
| tadzik | the php warning up top | 10:12 |
| tadzik | gone now :) | 10:12 |
| Hartzi | ah | 10:13 |
| Hartzi | ok | 10:13 |
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| phlixi_o | like that: | 10:42 |
| phlixi_o | <br /> | 10:42 |
| phlixi_o | <b>Warning</b>: session_start(): open(/var/lib/php5/sess_xxxxxx, O_RDWR) failed: No space left on device (28) in <b>/srv/sailfishos.org/wp-content/themes/sailfishos/header.php</b> on line <b>1</b><br /> | 10:42 |
| phlixi_o | <!DOCTYPE html> | 10:42 |
| phlixi_o | actually on production there should be no warnings/errors | 10:42 |
| tbr | yuck | 10:45 |
| tbr | phlixi_o: did DHL deliver? I got an email saying the loaded up. | 10:46 |
| phlixi_o | i didnt expected "express" thus i order to my home address, on order to go to the postoffice and get it... but its express, they wont do that (they also dont do packstation etc...) i expect them to call me (again...) the next hours... | 10:48 |
| phlixi_o | i already spoke to DHL 3 times, plus they sent me a letter an email and i wrote an email... | 10:48 |
| * SQUelcher remembers cycling to the airport to pick up his dhl express packets.. | 10:48 | |
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| SQUelcher | at least the depot isn't crowded. | 10:49 |
| phlixi_o | (ofc for this package, which hasnt arived yet) | 10:49 |
| phlixi_o | they asked me to provide a proof for the value of the delivery | 10:50 |
| phlixi_o | (customs) | 10:50 |
| phlixi_o | kinda silly, they accepted an screenshot of the checkout | 10:50 |
| phlixi_o | ...after calling them and teling them that this is $ while their papers is € | 10:51 |
| phlixi_o | stupid dhl... | 10:51 |
| phlixi_o | so, tbr, everything fine i guess :-) | 10:51 |
| tbr | phlixi_o: glad to hear :) | 10:52 |
| tbr | DHL customs handling in Leipzig sucks major balls, so I was a bit worried | 10:53 |
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| Yaniel | I once called DHL to have a packege delivered to a friend as I expected it to arrive while I was in the army | 11:49 |
| Yaniel | luckily for me it got delayed and arrived on my day off | 11:50 |
| Yaniel | because they delivered it to the original address (mine) and had just changed the recipient name >.< | 11:50 |
| Helle | Yaniel: oh, DHL actually listens to that..... | 11:51 |
| Helle | here most companies don't even try | 11:51 |
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| phlixi_o | i have to admit, usually, they do a good job | 13:27 |
| phlixi_o | just this time, this single delivery, very f*cked up | 13:27 |
| phlixi_o | (indeed, it coudl be even worse) | 13:27 |
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| kimmoli | changing delivery address with DHL . meh. they still try once to deliver to original address before re-routing to new. (in finland atleast) | 13:44 |
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| pdanek | **UPDATE, April 26, 2016: The system update planned to include Dual SIM support won't make it yet to April. Jolla is currently working with another Early Access release of Sailfish OS 2.0.1, and it'll be released for test users for a while before a public release. 2.0.2 will be the next update after that. (source: James Noori, Community Manager at | 14:18 |
| pdanek | Jolla). | 14:18 |
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| pdanek | Do you guys have a clue how long is the delay? | 14:18 |
| pdanek | by 1 month? | 14:18 |
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| ggabriel | what delay? | 14:19 |
| pdanek | Intex Aqua Fish | 14:19 |
| pdanek | should have been released on 26th of April | 14:19 |
| pdanek | but they delay it because Sailfish OS update is not ready | 14:19 |
| ggabriel | ok, so the delay is 1 day :P | 14:19 |
| pdanek | no | 14:19 |
| pdanek | definitely longer | 14:20 |
| ggabriel | it will be 2 tomorrow :P | 14:20 |
| pdanek | because they announced delay yesterday | 14:20 |
| pdanek | ? | 14:20 |
| ggabriel | you mean what the new release date is | 14:20 |
| ggabriel | which hasn't been communicated | 14:20 |
| pdanek | yes | 14:21 |
| pdanek | that's what I meant :) | 14:22 |
| ggabriel | there's probably more info in the community meetings tbh | 14:22 |
| ggabriel | I remember them talking about issues with the release/blockers/etc | 14:22 |
| ggabriel | shame the pressure is on jolla... they don't need more pressure me thinks | 14:23 |
| pdanek | :) | 14:27 |
| pdanek | thanks ggabriel, will attend tomorrow | 14:29 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: I meant check minutes... not sure what topics will be coered tomorrow | 14:32 |
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| pdanek | can't find logs of meetings | 14:36 |
| pdanek | someone removed it from room subject | 14:36 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/ | 14:37 |
| r0kk3rz | ggabriel: they have a paying customer now, of course they were going to be under the pump from them just before release | 14:39 |
| pdanek | Is Intex paying to Jolla? | 14:39 |
| r0kk3rz | of course | 14:39 |
| pdanek | it will be cool phone | 14:46 |
| pdanek | LTE for both Asia and Europe | 14:46 |
| pdanek | dual SIM | 14:46 |
| pdanek | extremely cheap price, so I can buy 2 of them and never be worried losing phone again | 14:47 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: you in india? | 14:47 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i kinda want one too, cheep jolla upgrade really | 14:50 |
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| cehteh | yesterday i had the idea, 2 phones .. one in charger one in use, syncing with each other | 15:03 |
| ggabriel | you'll find it difficult with things like whatsapp | 15:04 |
| ggabriel | but otherwise possible | 15:04 |
| cehteh | i dont use whatsapp .. but yes some software which handles all this things would be nice | 15:04 |
| ggabriel | oh, no, you have to figure out rsync and such | 15:04 |
| ggabriel | I don't think anything will sync any random application | 15:05 |
| cehteh | call forwarding to whatever phone is not in charger (is it possible to get sims with the same telephone number?) | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | of course things that are centralised are trivial (email, etc.) | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | erm, I don't think so | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | I assumed you'd change the sim card | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | not for personal use anyway, there are fancy business services that offer something along those lines | 15:05 |
| cehteh | nah just swap one phone into charger, the other one out should be all whats needed | 15:06 |
| ggabriel | but that costs money | 15:06 |
| cehteh | anyway that was just an idea. would be cool if it could be realized, but i dont use my phone that often that it makes sense for me | 15:06 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds like a rube goldberg type solution to a replacable battery | 15:07 |
| ggabriel | well, I have a phone in a charger right now and all I do is replace the battery :P | 15:07 |
| ggabriel | and use that phone to test EA sfos releases | 15:07 |
| cehteh | high availability phone .. also if one is in repair or whatever | 15:08 |
| ggabriel | try to live without a phone for a couple of days ;) | 15:08 |
| kjetilho | running DRBD over 4G? | 15:08 |
| cehteh | i suppose you can sync the phones over wlan | 15:09 |
| kjetilho | or btrfs send/recv | 15:09 |
| cehteh | does the intex phone still use btrfs? :D | 15:09 |
| r0kk3rz | unlikely | 15:09 |
| pdanek | ggabriel: I'm not in India, but I work in IT and every single mid-to-large sized company in Europe has loads of Indian employees, so I will always have a colleague or friend who's family can ship it for me | 15:09 |
| pdanek | + there is a guy on jolla together who is organizing mass shipping of Intex phones from India | 15:10 |
| cehteh | it would be nice if btrfs would be stable (and performing), but not there yet | 15:10 |
| pdanek | and considering the phone will probably cost only about 80 EUR, why not to buy 2 of them | 15:10 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: good to hear | 15:10 |
| ggabriel | I wonder how many they'll make | 15:11 |
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| cehteh | 80Eur .. woah | 15:11 |
| pdanek | it's not super cheap | 15:12 |
| pdanek | normal price for Asian phone | 15:12 |
| pdanek | with these specs | 15:12 |
| pdanek | I would say even above average price | 15:12 |
| ggabriel | but it'll be faster than anything else :P | 15:12 |
| cehteh | really? | 15:12 |
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| r0kk3rz | cehteh: you can look at the other phones in the Intex catalogue for comparison | 15:13 |
| cehteh | not planned to ship/sell it offically in europe? | 15:13 |
| pdanek | for 100 EUR you can get Intex phone with 3GB ram and much faster CPU | 15:13 |
| cehteh | unlocked? | 15:14 |
| pdanek | cehteh not initially, but who cares.... with this price I don't care about warranty | 15:14 |
| pdanek | it will be unlocked of course, it's dual SIM | 15:14 |
| cehteh | ah yes | 15:14 |
| pdanek | locking is practice of US/EU | 15:14 |
| cehteh | lets see when it ships | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | + au + jp | 15:15 |
| pdanek | right | 15:15 |
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| pdanek | Is it worth visiting Tokyo? | 15:16 |
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| pdanek | thinking of my next vacation | 15:16 |
| r0kk3rz | definitely | 15:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | but imo try to see somewhere else as well | 15:16 |
| pdanek | Seoul? | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | nagoya, osaka, kyoto | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | seoul is in korea | 15:17 |
| pdanek | is 1 week enough for both Seoul and Tokyo? | 15:17 |
| pdanek | I know man :D | 15:17 |
| pdanek | I just want large cities | 15:17 |
| pdanek | I don't care about Japanese countryside much | 15:17 |
| ggabriel | erm... japan locks phone like there's no tomorrow | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | osaka is a big city | 15:17 |
| r0kk3rz | but if you like big cities, then i guess tokyo is the place | 15:18 |
| pdanek | isn't it better to combine Tokyo with Seoul? | 15:18 |
| pdanek | only 2.5H flight | 15:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | never been to korea | 15:19 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: 1 week is definitely not enough for tokyo alone | 15:20 |
| ggabriel | especially if you like cities | 15:20 |
| pdanek | right | 15:20 |
| ggabriel | 9-10 days was enough for me to cover the basis | 15:20 |
| r0kk3rz | i spent close to a week total in tokyo and that was enough for me | 15:20 |
| pdanek | I'm in BIrmingham now for last 3 months | 15:21 |
| pdanek | and it just feels small | 15:21 |
| pdanek | nothing to do really | 15:21 |
| ggabriel | well... it is small :P | 15:21 |
| pdanek | so finally moving to London | 15:21 |
| r0kk3rz | small? depends on your perspective i guess | 15:21 |
| pdanek | yep | 15:21 |
| pdanek | that's why I said "feels" | 15:21 |
| pdanek | :) | 15:21 |
| ggabriel | not one of the biggest cities in the UK at least | 15:21 |
| pdanek | 2nd biggest | 15:21 |
| pdanek | :D | 15:21 |
| ggabriel | wat | 15:21 |
| pdanek | sure, what did you think? | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | according to whom? | 15:22 |
| leinir | 3rd biggest as of a few months ago, iirc... but yeah :) | 15:22 |
| pdanek | according to population size? | 15:22 |
| leinir | (surpassed by manchester) | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | i heard sheffield was there too | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | but anyway | 15:22 |
| pdanek | leinir surpassed by Manchester? | 15:22 |
| leinir | pdanek: that's what i heard, yeah | 15:23 |
| pdanek | you're reading some strange shit man | 15:23 |
| pdanek | :D | 15:23 |
| ggabriel | pdanek: or maybe you are? ;) | 15:23 |
| pdanek | Birmingham has twice amount of people than Manchester | 15:23 |
| leinir | sometime last year :) | 15:23 |
| r0kk3rz | ggabriel: sheffield? not the sheffield in the uk thats for sure | 15:23 |
| ggabriel | yeah, the sheffield in the uk | 15:23 |
| ggabriel | but didn't chekc facts, mind | 15:23 |
| ggabriel | also, sheffield is mostly a student city | 15:23 |
| pdanek | sometimes there are articles on net about: "what's Britains second city?" but this is meant as second most important, not largest or most populated | 15:24 |
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| pdanek | but, I have to agree that Manchester city center feels same big as Birmingham's city center, even though Birmingham is 2x as big | 15:24 |
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| roboro | http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/HTMLDocs/dvc134_c/index.html | 15:24 |
| ggabriel | I'm sure folks from other cities will have another opinion when it comes to importance :P | 15:25 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, but in terms of sheer size its hard to argue | 15:25 |
| pdanek | funny thing is that I come from 12k town | 15:25 |
| pdanek | but over the years, I just got used to larger and larger cities | 15:26 |
| pdanek | and as I traveled in Asian megacities frequently | 15:26 |
| roboro | also: http://www.ukcities.co.uk/populations/ | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | well, def not the 2nd city according to roboro's source | 15:26 |
| pdanek | there is no way back now | 15:26 |
| roboro | manchester has half of the people of brum | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | one site contradicts the other but well | 15:27 |
| leinir | i suspect manchesterians would count greater manchester... because they would ;) | 15:27 |
| pdanek | :) | 15:27 |
| ggabriel | lol manchesterians and of course | 15:27 |
| pdanek | yes | 15:27 |
| ggabriel | same liverpoolians | 15:27 |
| pdanek | but that roboro's source | 15:28 |
| pdanek | is shit | 15:28 |
| pdanek | I checked if it contains some of lower population cities | 15:28 |
| pdanek | and many are not in the list at all | 15:28 |
| pdanek | some 50k etc | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | welcome to the complexities of counting people in a country | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | they may as well tcpdump the internet and count unique fb logins | 15:29 |
| ggabriel | they'll probably get a more accurate count | 15:29 |
| pdanek | :D | 15:29 |
| r0kk3rz | doesnt need to be that accurate | 15:29 |
| pdanek | that would be too influenced by tourism | 15:29 |
| ggabriel | are we letting tourists use OUR internet?! | 15:30 |
| roboro | the first site shows population density in terms of square kms... which may not be representative of the size of a city... | 15:30 |
| pdanek | Edinburgh would suddenly become 2nd largest | 15:30 |
| pdanek | :D | 15:30 |
| roboro | the city may have a lot of sprawl | 15:30 |
| roboro | so over a wider area... there are lots of people but they are not dense | 15:30 |
| r0kk3rz | sprawl, yay melbourne! | 15:30 |
| roboro | :D | 15:30 |
| pdanek | roboro: sure, I meant the second link, which definitely missing MANY cities which are way bigger than those in the list | 15:31 |
| roboro | agreed.. second link is a bit sucky | 15:33 |
| roboro | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_in_the_United_Kingdom | 15:33 |
| roboro | that supports the manchester argument | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | manchester has loads of students as well, doesn't it? | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | i found that the vibe of a big city changes significantly if there are loads of students | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | not better or worse, just different | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | different stuff to do mainly | 15:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek: id still say go to osaka, its still a big city in its own right but different atmosphere to tokyo | 15:39 |
| pdanek | hmm | 15:39 |
| pdanek | thanks | 15:39 |
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| pdanek | will note that | 15:39 |
| ggabriel | or try kyoto :P former japanese capital | 15:40 |
| r0kk3rz | kyoto is nice | 15:40 |
| pdanek | right | 15:40 |
| ggabriel | anything !tokyo is easier to navigate fwiw | 15:40 |
| r0kk3rz | lots of history in kyoto | 15:40 |
| ggabriel | unless you can read kanji | 15:40 |
| pdanek | I don't usually care about history, old buildings et | 15:40 |
| pdanek | I just want megacity | 15:40 |
| pdanek | crowds | 15:40 |
| pdanek | :D | 15:40 |
| ggabriel | go to london/oxford circus on a saturday pm | 15:41 |
| ggabriel | and save the money :P | 15:41 |
| pdanek | :D | 15:41 |
| pdanek | it's not the same | 15:41 |
| pdanek | Hong Kong feels much better and busier as megacity | 15:41 |
| pdanek | much more of cyberpunk feel kinda | 15:41 |
| ggabriel | they have the same pedestrian crossing as in shibuya | 15:41 |
| r0kk3rz | shibuya was fairly mad though, so many people | 15:42 |
| ggabriel | it's quite mad | 15:42 |
| pdanek | that's why you need Intex phone with Sailfish for 80 eur | 15:42 |
| pdanek | that you will never worry again of losing your phone in crowds | 15:42 |
| pdanek | always carry 2 intexes on vacation | 15:43 |
| pdanek | and make daily backups | 15:43 |
| pdanek | :) | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | at least with a japanese crowd they are exceptionally unlikely to rob you | 15:43 |
| ggabriel | I normally avoid losing my phone | 15:43 |
| pdanek | in Vietnamese crowds it's exceptionally likely to rob me | 15:43 |
| ggabriel | yeah, watch out roppongi tho | 15:43 |
| r0kk3rz | dont go there | 15:44 |
| r0kk3rz | just dont | 15:44 |
| r0kk3rz | its not worth it | 15:44 |
| pdanek | where? | 15:44 |
| r0kk3rz | roppongi district in tokyo | 15:44 |
| ggabriel | there are some nice bits though | 15:44 |
| pdanek | why | 15:44 |
| ggabriel | loads of locals go there actually | 15:44 |
| r0kk3rz | you have to run the gauntlet of nigerian scamsters | 15:44 |
| ggabriel | easier if you're with locals as they don't bother you | 15:45 |
| pdanek | right | 15:45 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i wasnt | 15:45 |
| r0kk3rz | single caucasian male by myself? yeah i was their prime target | 15:45 |
| ggabriel | i forgot the phrase you have to use to get rid of them | 15:46 |
| pdanek | hmm | 15:47 |
| r0kk3rz | oh theres a magic phrase? | 15:47 |
| pdanek | you can't just "ignore" them? | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | there's a magic phrase in japanese | 15:47 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: i was followed by one for at least 2-3 blocks | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | that shows that you aren't fooling around and are serious | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | very polite | 15:47 |
| pdanek | but they are harmless if you ignore, aren't they? | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | they won't do anything to you | 15:47 |
| pdanek | I tend to ignore these people, not even make single eye contact | 15:48 |
| ggabriel | physically i mean | 15:48 |
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| pdanek | or even put headpones on | 15:48 |
| pdanek | in India, a lot of such situations | 15:48 |
| ggabriel | it isn't that bad in roppongi but the goal is different :) | 15:49 |
| r0kk3rz | at the time i was perhaps ill equipped for the situation | 15:49 |
| r0kk3rz | was my first time out of australia after all | 15:49 |
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| sakustar | yakuza games taught me its ok unless you run in japan | 16:21 |
| sakustar | if you run people tend to start fights with you | 16:21 |
| sakustar | and always buy alcohol for homeless people so theyll throw you weapons | 16:21 |
| ggabriel | lol | 16:21 |
| ggabriel | which homeless? :P | 16:22 |
| sakustar | the ones wearing green jackets at least | 16:22 |
| sakustar | idk if the rest even speak to you | 16:22 |
| sakustar | :) | 16:23 |
| ggabriel | that's quite funny | 16:23 |
| sakustar | also the cab fare should always be the same amount no matter where you go, so watch out for scams | 16:25 |
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| useretail | !rules | 20:29 |
| merbot | useretail: Error: "rules" is not a valid command. | 20:29 |
| useretail | @rules | 20:29 |
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| useretail | !help | 20:29 |
| merbot | useretail: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin. You may also want to use the 'list' command to list all available plugins and commands. | 20:29 |
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| useretail | hey guys, how to add repos to jolla? | 20:30 |
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| coderus | ssu ar alias repo_url | 20:31 |
| coderus | then ssu er alias | 20:31 |
| useretail | ok, can i add a repo with this: zypper ar -f https://sailfish.openrepos.net/NielDK/personal-main.repo | 20:32 |
| coderus | dont know, not using zypper | 20:32 |
| coderus | there is Warehouse app for openrepos | 20:32 |
| useretail | i tried two times, and after refresh repos disappear | 20:32 |
| useretail | ok, hows repo url look like? like above or like this: https://sailfish.openrepos.net/NielDK/personal/ | 20:33 |
| coderus | ssu ar openrepos-NielDK https://sailfish.openrepos.net/NielDK/ | 20:34 |
| useretail | thanks | 20:35 |
| coderus | but really, there is Warehouse, app to enable repos and install apps from openrepos with two clicks | 20:35 |
| useretail | thanks but i'd like to try with ssh, since i don't have much time to play with gui | 20:36 |
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| useretail | File '/repodata/repomd.xml' not found on medium 'https://sailfish.openrepos.net/NielDK/' | 20:40 |
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| coderus | then try ssu ar openrepos-NielDK https://sailfish.openrepos.net/NielDK/personal/main/ | 20:42 |
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| useretail | yweah, it worked | 20:43 |
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