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| phlixi | sobukus: maybe keep an android firefox for such cases, i guess that would do the job | 06:58 |
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| Yaniel | how's the linux DE space these days? I should probably look into moving from my startx+awesome setup to a proper DE | 16:50 |
| Stskeeps | get a mac | 16:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:51 |
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| Tegu | and iphone and ipad and ipod and apple tv | 17:00 |
| Stskeeps | Tegu: interesting enough i don't have a desire to get an iphone | 17:01 |
| Tegu | Stskeeps: it was for yaniel anyways, no worries | 17:01 |
| Stskeeps | ah | 17:02 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:02 |
| Tegu | but you can get 'em all, still | 17:02 |
| TemeV_ | Yaniel: I think Gnome 3 is quite ok | 17:03 |
| Tegu | but about linu DE's, dunno. I just got stuck to lightdm+i3 | 17:03 |
| Tegu | but I know at last one guy who likes gnome 3, so worth a try, I guess | 17:04 |
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| tappel | KDE 5 looks like it's a step back from KDE 4, just like KDE 4 originally was | 17:04 |
| TemeV_ | I think Linus said he uses Gnome 3 :) | 17:05 |
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| * cb400f uses Plasma 5 that's more important ;-) ... even if it still has a few rough edges | 17:05 | |
| tappel | but I'll use anything that has virtual desktops | 17:07 |
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| TemeV | Hmm... I logged in to Plasma side to take a look how it is now. 696 updates pending, I guess Gnome doesn't want to update Plasma stuff :) | 17:10 |
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| Lieke | xfce. | 17:18 |
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| r0kk3rz | TemeV: you absolutely require the shortcut keys for gnome 3, but once you've internalised those then its good | 17:30 |
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| TemeV | r0kk3rz: yeah, it might not be as beginner friendly as e.g. os X, but you need shortcuts with any environment to work efficiently | 17:32 |
| kjetilho | I don't see what GNOME 3 offers over Awesome, I'm moving the other direction :) | 17:32 |
| r0kk3rz | TemeV: im a happy gnome 3 user, but its more of a 'now dont be shocked, look up the keys and carry on' | 17:34 |
| TemeV | I haven't tried Awesome | 17:34 |
| kjetilho | it's back to basics, for sure. the configuration is a long Lua program | 17:35 |
| TemeV | I guess I don't bother then :) | 17:35 |
| r0kk3rz | kjetilho: then idk use awesome? thats why multiple DEs exist anyway | 17:37 |
| kjetilho | my comment was directed at Yaniel | 17:38 |
| TMavica | Jolla Tab ordered | 17:38 |
| Jope | taobao? :-) | 17:39 |
| TMavica | yes. with sailfish | 17:39 |
| r0kk3rz | TMavica: yeah im tempted | 17:39 |
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| TMavica | very cheap | 17:40 |
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| TMavica | cheap to HK just 2 days | 17:40 |
| r0kk3rz | is less about the price and more what it is | 17:40 |
| TMavica | 1500 HK dollars | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | good performance, nice screen, sailfish + dalvik | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | automatic updates | 17:41 |
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| Acce | vote for xfce | 18:10 |
| Acce | for something more minimal, lxde | 18:10 |
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| Mikaela | vote for MATE which is in between of those two | 18:30 |
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| coderus | TMavica: nice! | 18:34 |
| coderus | TMavica: what is 15000HK in USD? | 18:34 |
| TMavica | 1500 | 18:35 |
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| coderus | in USD | 18:35 |
| TMavica | 1500 HKD = 190 USD | 18:35 |
| coderus | ok | 18:35 |
| coderus | almost same price actually | 18:35 |
| coderus | *almost* | 18:35 |
| TMavica | ya | 18:36 |
| coderus | good luck! think you will get tablet with android and then flash it to sailfishos | 18:36 |
| TMavica | lol | 18:39 |
| TMavica | the seller said is sailfish | 18:39 |
| TMavica | there is 2 choice | 18:39 |
| coderus | cool, then preflashed :D | 18:39 |
| TMavica | i dont want take a risk | 18:39 |
| coderus | i actually want to flash my tablet to android, but dont have an android flashable image for it :( | 18:40 |
| TMavica | android one is cheaper | 18:40 |
| coderus | can you buy me android one and ship? :) | 18:40 |
| TMavica | i guess the shipping price is high | 18:40 |
| coderus | isn't it "FREE SHIPPING" as everywhere in ebay? :D | 18:41 |
| TMavica | i want ubiboot sailfish and android. | 18:41 |
| coderus | yeah that will be cool | 18:41 |
| coderus | but not ubiboot i think | 18:41 |
| coderus | just some any random multirom | 18:41 |
| TMavica | juiceme: ping | 18:42 |
| TMavica | lol | 18:42 |
| coderus | since you can flash boot and any other part | 18:43 |
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| coderus | i mean android ones | 18:49 |
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| coderus | you just need normal android recovery, but not required, since there is DnZ flashing mode for intel flasher :D | 18:50 |
| coderus | you can attach usb flash drive with ubuntu and boot it | 18:50 |
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| coderus | and in ubuntu boot menu you can select to boot from internal memory and sailfish will be started fine from ubuntu grub | 18:51 |
| coderus | so | 18:51 |
| juiceme | TMavica pong | 18:51 |
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| coderus | well not grub, but some other sort of efi loader | 18:52 |
| coderus | juiceme: you need to make a multiboot for jolla tablet | 18:52 |
| coderus | to boot any os | 18:52 |
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| juiceme | coderus, mmh, yes it should not be that difficult. | 18:54 |
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| juiceme | probably a modification of basic bootloaader is doable, no need to do like ubiboot | 18:55 |
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| juiceme | ubiboot was a special case fot n9 because there was no possibility to have an unlocked bootloader | 18:56 |
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| juiceme | hence needed to have "injected" linux bootloader | 18:56 |
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| TMavica | looking forward to it | 19:10 |
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| coderus | there is just droidboot.efi or so booting sailfish :) | 19:21 |
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