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| temmi_hoo | kimmoli, any idea on how to force navigation to keep tracking position through a telephone call? | 09:06 |
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| kimmoli | nope | 09:06 |
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| temmi_hoo | it's bugging me till no end that i cannot just start navigating and call someone in order to chat for an hour or two until i'm closer to destination and need to start thinking while driving | 09:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | temmi_hoo: hammer geoclue through dbus? | 11:10 |
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| temmi_hoo | dunno | 11:15 |
| temmi_hoo | can that be done using python or some other sane scripting language without going full oomph at c/++ leaking memory and all that associated bs i'd make as a bad coder? | 11:16 |
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| temmi_hoo | i got ssh access all right so i can deploy my own scripts | 11:19 |
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| temmi_hoo | which methods of starting background processess does sailfishos support? uptemd, sysstart, crontab? | 11:20 |
| r0kk3rz | temmi_hoo: you can bang on dbus with python, so yeh | 11:20 |
| r0kk3rz | systemd can do on-demand services | 11:21 |
| temmi_hoo | so i could register my cooler-than-world-combined-dbus-banger thing as providing something necessary to navigation app and systemd would fire that up every time navigation is on? | 11:22 |
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| IZh | temmi_hoo: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/31702465/how-to-define-a-d-bus-activated-systemd-service | 11:25 |
| temmi_hoo | ... not long ago i was thinking: now this systemd i'm really happy to stay away from | 11:25 |
| temmi_hoo | but then it's not like i have a choice as long as i'm not putting bsd on jolla | 11:26 |
| IZh | temmi_hoo: After stutying it a bit, you'll love it. ;-) | 11:27 |
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| temmi_hoo | knowing how launchd works i'm not so sure i'd love systemd | 11:34 |
| temmi_hoo | then again it's not like one could not have decided to use launchd in a linux distro but the usual freer than free through coercion -politics stopped that from happening | 11:35 |
| temmi_hoo | much like how zfs could have just worked but it was necessary to start btrfs to support similar features | 11:35 |
| r0kk3rz | love is a strong word, but it does have a few useful features | 11:37 |
| r0kk3rz | and unit files are dead easy | 11:38 |
| r0kk3rz | i also think that people overestimate the coercion politics around systemd. fact is it made the distros job easier | 11:41 |
| r0kk3rz | and so thats why they use it | 11:41 |
| r0kk3rz | perhaps all the modules are a bit too tightly bound, but there wasnt a lot of competition in that space anyway | 11:42 |
| pp_ | it was a bit overpushed, yes | 11:42 |
| temmi_hoo | oh i'm not speaking about systemd vs upstart vs init vs xinetd vs .... but more like the "oh we cannot ever possibly use some software that is not forced to be open by viral licence" | 11:43 |
| pp_ | "It's totally compatible with sysv, there's no risk" | 11:43 |
| pp_ | "Except this corner case we have with xxx, it breaks badly" | 11:43 |
| pp_ | "well, too late, everyone else already switched, fix your code to work with systemd unit files" | 11:43 |
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| r0kk3rz | temmi_hoo: yeah i get you, but thats the philosophy side of foss i guess, you will always get people who disagree on such things | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | some people hate the idea that something they built for the community will be used by a company to make money | 11:47 |
| temmi_hoo | indeed, annoying that we have people driving politics instead of just having lots of nice software and technical merits :) | 11:47 |
| temmi_hoo | oh it's not like gpl'ed software would not make money | 11:47 |
| temmi_hoo | ibm has set a good example that it can be very beneficial to pay for developing gpled software and keep selling services based on that - or even sell software as long as you also make it available for anybody willing to go through trouble of getting it themselves | 11:49 |
| kimmoli | "love, systemd, politics, philosophy" ... on same page... | 11:52 |
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| temmi_hoo | what do you mean, "flash gordon approaching?", open fire ALL WEAPONS | 11:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: its valentines day after all | 12:00 |
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| sobukus | Anyone got a hint how I can download a media file (audio) via the web browser instead of playing it? | 21:49 |
| sobukus | I'm talking about a plain link to the file. Download is not offered as option:-/ | 21:49 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | curl? | 22:19 |
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| sobukus | Yeah, well, this is a password protected page and hence it's a bit inconvenient. | 22:36 |
| sobukus | I repackaged the files into a tar now and was able to download that. | 22:37 |
| sobukus | This is a bit stupid, really, but at least there _is_ a way;-) | 22:37 |
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| r0kk3rz_ | yeah it is a bit stupid | 22:52 |
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