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| pdanek | Good morning, | 13:10 |
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| pdanek | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1497509&postcount=15 | 13:11 |
| pdanek | "there is also a bad point for me: it is entirely produced by foxconn. i think i would prefer a phone just like fairphone2, less exclusive but consistent with the sailfish os philosophy" | 13:11 |
| pdanek | Do you guys agree with that? | 13:11 |
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| pdanek | I'm struggling to find what has Sailfish's philosophy common with Fairphone 2. | 13:12 |
| Stskeeps | fairphone2 isn't foxconn | 13:13 |
| Stskeeps | ah, well, turing | 13:13 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: sailfishos is fairly light on philosophy no? maybe a bit of 'do it together, people powered' stuff, but thats about it really | 13:15 |
| pdanek | Yes, that's why I don't really see how is Fairphone 2 consistent with Sailfish's philosophy :D | 13:16 |
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| pdanek | but wanted to see if people have different opinion, maybe I was missing something | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | fairphone and the people working there are awesome, though | 13:16 |
| pdanek | I agree | 13:16 |
| pdanek | but nothing to do with Sailfish's philosophy | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | what is sailfish's philosophy? | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:16 |
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| pdanek | I don't knowww | 13:17 |
| pdanek | :D | 13:17 |
| pdanek | that's my point | 13:17 |
| pdanek | itdoesntmatt knows | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | good that somebody knows | 13:18 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:18 |
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| pdanek | btw, the liquid metal and all that is cool.... but I wonder how will the duralbility compare to fairphone 2 in real tests | 13:18 |
| pdanek | but I don't think anyone will perform such tests :D | 13:19 |
| pdanek | broken display is very common issue of phones.... and fairphone's integrated bumper seems as good idea | 13:19 |
| pdanek | my phone drops a lot | 13:19 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont think the fp2 has been around enough to really comment on the durabillity | 13:19 |
| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: looks fairy repairable though | 13:20 |
| r0kk3rz | its repairable, but maybe not as durable as an integrated slab | 13:20 |
| pdanek | The Turing Phone has another advantage: it wants unbreakable. With a unibody frame metal Liquidmorphium appointed, he resists all shocks and can not be folded. A material that, according Turing, is more resistant than the titanium or steel. | 13:20 |
| pdanek | that doesn't say anything about unbreakable display | 13:20 |
| pdanek | noody cares about unbrwkable body, as this will never break :D | 13:20 |
| locusf | if any vendor makes a phone as durable as 3210 I'm sold | 13:21 |
| pdanek | if it "resists all shock" = bad news for display | 13:21 |
| r0kk3rz | locusf: maybe if people start making phones that thick again | 13:21 |
| pdanek | FP2 seems to absorb shock a bit with plastic body and bumper | 13:21 |
| phlixi | 3210's duraiblity is glorified, it actually wasnt that durable | 13:21 |
| pdanek | locusf: there is one, same as 3210 | 13:21 |
| pdanek | locusf: with good design and all that | 13:22 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: they've done a good job with it, but the proof of the pudding is in the eating | 13:22 |
| locusf | phlixi: mine took a fight with brick staircase and survived | 13:22 |
| pdanek | locusf: Motorola Moto X Force | 13:22 |
| phlixi | locusf my s25 did that all the time | 13:23 |
| pdanek | locusf: best choice if you look for durable flagship phone | 13:23 |
| phlixi | s45 sorry | 13:23 |
| locusf | okay | 13:23 |
| phlixi | back then it was just normal durablilty | 13:23 |
| pdanek | they have special display, which can't be broken | 13:23 |
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| phlixi | i dont remmeber any accidents with my 5130 and 6xxx nokias, but they lasted pretty long | 13:23 |
| pdanek | Moto X Force is way to go for anyone seeking duralbility, period. :D | 13:24 |
| pdanek | I watched tests, reviews | 13:24 |
| pdanek | it's terrific | 13:24 |
| pdanek | Can memory module be replaced on FP2? | 13:27 |
| pdanek | because 2GB isn't enough for such expensive phone which should last for "years" | 13:28 |
| phlixi | there is no day without pdanek whining about memory, asking for 8gigs.... | 13:29 |
| pdanek | :D | 13:29 |
| pdanek | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nexpaq/nexpaq-the-first-truly-modular-smartphone-case/description | 13:34 |
| nh1402 | pdanek: My friend has one, he's been brainwashed with the marketing, with their Shatterproof nonsense. Any phone with a plastic display cover is shatterproof. | 13:35 |
| pdanek | nh1402: Moto X Force? | 13:36 |
| nh1402 | yes | 13:36 |
| pdanek | why brainwashed? to have plastic display cover, you need full phone case right? which makes it more bulky | 13:36 |
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| pdanek | https://www.facebook.com/turingroboticindustries/timeline?ref=page_internal | 13:41 |
| pdanek | Turing Robotic Industries: "Most Android apps will be compatible with our Sailfish OS. If there are apps that don't function properly on our Sailfish OS, we will enable them to. More details about this topic will be released in March." | 13:41 |
| pdanek | that's strong claim | 13:42 |
| Yaniel | sooo.. how about the maybe most common one, Play Store | 13:42 |
| pdanek | but also they say: "We're using Sailfish OS only. In the future, our own unique OS. More details coming later." | 13:42 |
| pdanek | So Sailfish is just temporary plan | 13:42 |
| Stskeeps | pdanek: a OS is simple today | 13:43 |
| Stskeeps | just a new theme and call it Foo OS | 13:43 |
| schoppenhauer | hi. is there a pedometer-app for jolla? (I tried android apps, but jolla seems to deactivate them when they are not in the foreground, so they don't proceed counting.) | 13:44 |
| pdanek | Stskeeps: Our own unique OS can be they will do completely new secure OS from scratch, not just new UI, that's not simple at all | 13:44 |
| schoppenhauer | and if not: is there a device node for the movement sensor which I could read (so I'd make a program myself) | 13:45 |
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| Yaniel | Qt has accelerometer classes that you can use | 13:46 |
| Yaniel | there's at least a maze game that uses the sensor and made it into the app store | 13:47 |
| kimmoli | nemokeepalive to keep device active when screen is off | 13:47 |
| pdanek | http://www.androidheadlines.com/2015/12/turing-phone-durability-tested-in-drop-water-bend-test-videos.html | 13:48 |
| schoppenhauer | ok, I'll try that out | 13:49 |
| schoppenhauer | Yaniel: thx | 13:49 |
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| schoppenhauer | kimmoli: nemokeepalive? | 13:50 |
| schoppenhauer | ah. a software. | 13:51 |
| schoppenhauer | kimmoli: do i need this software to write a jolla app that runs in background, or would this also work with android apps? | 13:53 |
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| kimmoli | its a library that you use from sailfish-app | 13:55 |
| schoppenhauer | ok. thx. | 13:56 |
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| HtheB | coderus: ping :D | 14:55 |
| HtheB | (I think we keep missing each other) | 14:55 |
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| kimmoli | Just pasted a lot, see here http://pastebin.com/9EtL542g | 15:08 |
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| coderus | HtheB: pong | 15:31 |
| coderus | HtheB: just use some other way than irc | 15:33 |
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| HtheB | coderus: ok | 15:41 |
| HtheB | are you available now though? | 15:41 |
| coderus | HtheB: sure | 15:41 |
| coderus | i'm always available | 15:41 |
| HtheB | nice | 15:42 |
| coderus | but sometimes with with long latency | 15:42 |
| HtheB | no prob | 15:42 |
| HtheB | check pm | 15:42 |
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| ccha2 | I checked the opt-in since 1hour ago. When we can I get the eraly update? | 16:49 |
| coderus | as soon as technically possible | 16:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | ccha2: its possibly they stopped rolling it out once they hit the issue | 22:53 |
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