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| coderus | we had cleaning diskettes for 5.35, 3.5, then cleaning CD's. so why not cleaning sdcards? :D | 04:37 |
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| kimmoli | coderus ? http://www.pixmania.ie/sd-sdhc-card/cablematic-memory-card-slot-cleaning-sd-digital-security/21365359-a.html | 05:34 |
| kimmoli | and for cards, https://dwomoh.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/pencils-01.jpg | 05:36 |
| cehteh | that looks rathere destructive | 05:44 |
| cehteh | scratching of the gold plating of the contacts will lead to more trouble really soon | 05:45 |
| kimmoli | there was others with cleaning surface looking not-so-abrasive | 05:51 |
| Jope | I use those white plastic erasers for cleaning card edges | 05:55 |
| Jope | http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61rxQmu-BaL._SL1308_.jpg mm mm | 05:55 |
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| tiwake | https://derpibooru.org/1085235 | 07:14 |
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| mcfrisk | fsck, "mmc0: error -110 whilst initialising SD card" also on a PC sdcard reader. I guess the card died. Was a Kingston 64gb one. Serial numbers on it have zero search matches on google. Sigh. | 07:29 |
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| cehteh | mcfrisk: did that work before with that reader? is it sdxc compatible? | 07:43 |
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| mcfrisk | cehteh: no idea, never used a reader with this card before. | 07:52 |
| cehteh | many are not sdxc (or sdhc) compatible | 07:53 |
| cehteh | wont work with newer cards | 07:53 |
| mcfrisk | Ok, this was an integrated reader on a HP laptop | 07:59 |
| cehteh | should work on newer readers, just read the laptop docs | 07:59 |
| mcfrisk | since the error message is the same as on Jolla phone, I assume it was able to do same things as Jolla | 07:59 |
| cehteh | cheap usb ones are usually problematic | 07:59 |
| cehteh | yes could be dead card as well then | 08:00 |
| cehteh | kingston :D | 08:00 |
| cehteh | i'd never buy that | 08:00 |
| mcfrisk | laptop reader is sdxc compatible, the card is dead then... | 08:03 |
| mcfrisk | if not kingston, then what brand is better? with proof? :) | 08:04 |
| cehteh | kinston has no factories they just brand whatever they get hold of | 08:04 |
| cehteh | samsung, intel/micron and sandisk are original manufacturers, but be careful not to get counterfeit cards | 08:05 |
| cehteh | i usually prefer sandisk, works for me. back a few years they had the best controllers to cope with random access use patterns like on phones etc | 08:06 |
| cehteh | nowadays the others are possibly good as well | 08:06 |
| mcfrisk | samsung ssd died at work and corrupted files. no go. | 08:07 |
| mcfrisk | intel, never seen intel micro sd cards... | 08:08 |
| cehteh | i am speaking of flash chips, intels are top notch but most go into their own SSD's | 08:10 |
| cehteh | samsung had this problem with their ssd controlers | 08:10 |
| cehteh | the flash memory should be ok | 08:10 |
| mcfrisk | so, for sdcards that leaves sandisk? | 08:12 |
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| cehteh | if you want to avoid samsung, yes | 08:12 |
| cehteh | are there sdcards under microns brand? | 08:13 |
| mcfrisk | I remember the N9 emmc chip tests where a few manufacturers failed badly.. | 08:13 |
| cehteh | yes | 08:13 |
| cehteh | you can find a lot bad reports | 08:13 |
| cehteh | also because the market is flooded with b-rated or counterfeit stuff | 08:14 |
| mcfrisk | shivers, samsung brands sdcards with evo too | 08:14 |
| cehteh | i cant tell much .. except for this evo controllers bugs samsung 'should' be ok .. but i understand your concerns | 08:15 |
| cehteh | in my laptop i have a intel ssd | 08:15 |
| cehteh | these have the best reputation about safety | 08:15 |
| cehteh | but was a bit on the expensive side | 08:16 |
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| mcfrisk | well, luckily that ssd on jolla was only for music and videos which are also on real backup disks. and, ok the jolla backups were there too but jolla seems fine now. | 08:20 |
| mcfrisk | /ssd/sdcard/ | 08:20 |
| cehteh | i dont have important data on the jolla .. but still restoring would be pita | 08:20 |
| cehteh | lots of oflline maps for osmand, offline wikipedia, music, ... | 08:21 |
| cehteh | 40gb over wlan will take some time | 08:21 |
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| cehteh | whats the state with sip integration meanwhile btw? | 09:40 |
| tbr | 'meh' | 09:40 |
| cehteh | ok | 09:41 |
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| jjardon | Hi, what sailfishos uses; networkmanager or connman? Ofono or modemmanager? | 09:51 |
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| Mikaela | connman, and I think ofono | 09:56 |
| Mikaela | As ofono appears in some commands said here | 09:56 |
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| phdeswer | ofono and connman | 10:04 |
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| jjardon | thanks for the info | 10:57 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | 12:03 |
| sebsebseb | so apparnatly | 12:03 |
| sebsebseb | meant to apply for tablet or re fund? thought was going to get something emailed out | 12:04 |
| sebsebseb | ? | 12:04 |
| ggabriel_ | you need to wait for an email, as per the latest blog | 12:04 |
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| sebsebseb | ggabriel: oh ok so it is waiting for an email | 12:05 |
| ggabriel | that's what I'm doing at least | 12:05 |
| sebsebseb | popey: ^ | 12:05 |
| sebsebseb | ggabriel: yeah the tablet would be nice, but I Got a jolla phone anyway | 12:07 |
| sebsebseb | another tablet now to, more coming! | 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | other tech probably to buy later this year to, but not knowing it yet really | 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | tech devices | 12:08 |
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| sebsebseb | ggabriel: so a re fund wound't be to bad | 12:08 |
| sebsebseb | hardware is out of date now, but would have still been nice to of had one really :) | 12:08 |
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| tbr | I'd still argue that baytrail hardware is not quite out of date in general and in particular that display of tbj seems to be quite nice | 12:13 |
| sebsebseb | tbr: well whatever the hardware is it's stiol usable etc :) | 12:15 |
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| tbr | that too, but I was specifically referring to the hardware. | 12:16 |
| tbr | There aren't many, if any at all, android tablets with the next generation intel mobile chip shipping | 12:16 |
| tbr | windows10 seems to work on those though | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | sebsebseb: I wouldn't mind a tablet myself | 12:17 |
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| sebsebseb | tbr: yeah I don't really know the hadware specs of the JOlla tablet as such, but I trust Jolla picked good hardware specs for the time | 12:17 |
| tbr | I totally understand that people might not want a tablet by now though. | 12:17 |
| tbr | I just don't think hw should be used as an argument | 12:18 |
| sebsebseb | tbr: ggabriel I was earlyish to contribbute to the campagain, but probably not qujite early enough to be one of the 500 or so hmm | 12:18 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: was it you I met in person? | 12:19 |
| sebsebseb | if not a guy with a similar name | 12:19 |
| sledges | sebsebseb: yep! how's it going? | 12:19 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: ah ha it was :) | 12:19 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: did you come to FOSDEM this year? Do you still work for Jolla? | 12:19 |
| sledges | yes and yes:D | 12:20 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: ah we coudl havev met up in Brussels maybe, oh well | 12:20 |
| sledges | i checked magea, but only found AL13N :) | 12:20 |
| sledges | *magea stand | 12:20 |
| sledges | **mageia | 12:20 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: yeah if that was on the Sunday I was mostly else where | 12:20 |
| sledges | ah i see | 12:20 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: Saturday once I had gotton round most of the other stands I was there a lot | 12:20 |
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| sledges | well, there's always LUG ;) | 12:21 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: heh I remember you saying how great the Jolla tablet would be, but here we are a year later and uhmm | 12:21 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: yes I intend to be a lot the LUG at the end of this month | 12:21 |
| phlixi_o | sebsebseb: if you are offerend an jolla tablet and dont want it, i am happy to take it :-) | 12:21 |
| sebsebseb | phlixi_o: heh sledges is a Jolla employee, let's see what info we can leak out of him heh heh | 12:21 |
| phlixi_o | nothing i guess | 12:22 |
| sledges | sebsebseb: projects encounter challenges, consumer electronics we're talking about here:) | 12:22 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: yes indeed | 12:22 |
| sledges | what info do you need? :P | 12:22 |
| sebsebseb | am I going to get the Jolla tablet? :d | 12:22 |
| sebsebseb | the other guys uhmm who cares heh heh | 12:22 |
| sledges | :D wait for an email | 12:22 |
| phlixi_o | :D | 12:22 |
| sebsebseb | sorry ggabriel sorry phlixi_o it's all about me now, heh heh, joke | 12:23 |
| phlixi_o | as promised^^ | 12:23 |
| sebsebseb | no no it's not about if you get it, it's about if I get one heh heh, joke | 12:23 |
| sledges | how's life otherwise sebsebseb? :) | 12:23 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: yeah can you make the LUG at the end of the month? | 12:24 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: I should go really this month, I haven't been since October I think it was | 12:24 |
| sledges | i'll do my best, it will be after MWC right?:) | 12:24 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: yeah just after I guess, MWC is on the 22nd? | 12:25 |
| sledges | yes | 12:25 |
| sebsebseb | when does that finnish? | 12:25 |
| sledges | 25th | 12:25 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: ok the LUG is on Saturday 27th | 12:25 |
| ggabriel | but really, it'll last the 30-60 minutes jolla will have | 12:25 |
| sledges | then i can finally bring new toys :D | 12:25 |
| ggabriel | as the others will present yet another android device | 12:26 |
| ggabriel | and yet another ithing | 12:26 |
| ggabriel | so nothing new really ;) | 12:26 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: what kind of new toys? | 12:26 |
| sledges | sebsebseb: wait until after MWC :P | 12:26 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: oh your going to get something interesting Jolla there? | 12:26 |
| sledges | let's keep you guessing:) | 12:27 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: you know a part of me would want to go to MWC myself really, but with current living situations, I can't really self fund that as well, can just about do FOSDEM, and the UK event | 12:27 |
| popey | Jolla Smartwatch! | 12:27 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: I guess MWC is probably also really one of those events, that is better to go to, when funded to go by some company that work for | 12:27 |
| sledges | hey popey, congrats on the Ubuntu Tablet! | 12:27 |
| sebsebseb | popey: are you going to MWC? | 12:28 |
| popey | sledges: hey, thanks. | 12:28 |
| popey | sebsebseb: no, I'm not pretty enough to be at MWC | 12:28 |
| sebsebseb | sledges: heh looks like the Ubuntu tablet is actsaully going to be shipped to loads of people without a load of issues to heh | 12:28 |
| popey | I'll be at Embedded World in Germany | 12:28 |
| popey | sebsebseb: meow! | 12:28 |
| sebsebseb | popey: you know sledges to or sort of? | 12:28 |
| sledges | sebsebseb: that's great, at least one Linux tablet without issues:) | 12:28 |
| popey | (also, it hasn't shipped yet so ... you know.. things could "happen" ) | 12:28 |
| popey | hehe | 12:28 |
| sledges | and we should know:D | 12:29 |
| sledges | anyhow, best of luck, speak to you fellows later:) | 12:29 |
| * sledges gtgs | 12:29 | |
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| sebsebseb | popey: yes BQ may go bank rupt for some unknown strange Spannish reason :d | 12:29 |
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| sebsebseb | popey: Embbeded World in Germany whens that? and a similar event to MWC I guess? | 12:32 |
| sledges | speaking of smartwatches: https://twitter.com/applehq/status/696466701920112640 | 12:33 |
| popey | same time as MWC | 12:34 |
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| * jonwil will never give a cent to crApple :) | 12:37 | |
| sledges | that's just a crafty username, mislead me for a minute too:)) | 12:38 |
| * popey thinks jonwil didn't actually click the link | 12:38 | |
| popey | It's a neat looking project! | 12:38 |
| popey | not heard of it before. | 12:38 |
| jonwil | yeah I just saw the name and assumed it was an Apple twitter feed and went "screw that" :) | 12:38 |
| jonwil | but yeah running custom OS on an LG device is cool | 12:38 |
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| sledges | join the tribe:)) | 12:41 |
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| jonwil | That said, I dont have any desire to own a watch of any sort (smart or otherwise) | 12:45 |
| jonwil | If I need to know what time it is, I pull out my N900 and check :) | 12:46 |
| jonwil | If I need to do other stuff, I pull out the N900 and do it :) | 12:46 |
| ggabriel | i'm only considering a watch for sports tracking | 12:46 |
| ggabriel | as the gps on the phone is not that reliable | 12:46 |
| ggabriel | on any phone, for that matter | 12:46 |
| ggabriel | and all these "smart" watches don't do that... they have a crappy gps like any phone :P | 12:47 |
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| tappel | I would like a smartphone designed more like a pocket watch, not wristwatch | 12:49 |
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| chem|st | tappel: steampunked | 12:51 |
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| r0kk3rz | pocket smartwatch wouldbe cool | 12:55 |
| tappel | clamshell smartphones come close, but I think most of them are designed more as an afterthought | 12:56 |
| r0kk3rz | i mean, thats what they made before they could miniaturise for the wrist watch | 12:56 |
| zebbiz_pi | I love my watch | 12:56 |
| zebbiz_pi | Checking the time in the shower is great | 12:56 |
| pp_ | n9 is the ultimate (pant) pocket watch | 12:57 |
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| ggabriel | zebbiz_pi: I admit that I lol'ed at your comment | 12:59 |
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| zebbiz_pi | ggabriel: I was serious :) | 13:00 |
| ggabriel | I believed you, I still lol'ed | 13:00 |
| zebbiz_pi | :) | 13:00 |
| zebbiz_pi | Not having to take out your phone is really convenient though | 13:02 |
| ggabriel | not having to be a slave of time is even more convenient ;-) | 13:02 |
| zebbiz_pi | Hard when you go to school and have to be in time for class | 13:02 |
| ggabriel | oh, hard when you're at work too | 13:03 |
| ggabriel | but you find a way ;) | 13:03 |
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| sledges | PSA: Sailfish OS collab @ #mer-meeting in a minute ;) | 14:28 |
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| pp_ | toki se on niin säänneltyä muutoin, että sama ottaa maksimi kun kaikki muutkin ottaa | 15:03 |
| pp_ | err | 15:03 |
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| EyeA | Jolla )0!1@ )0h | 15:24 |
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| Mikaela | Is that a big t? | 16:07 |
| Mikaela | *bot | 16:07 |
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| phlixi_o | Mikaela: do you mean this? <EyeA> Jolla )0!1@ )0h | 17:48 |
| phlixi_o | ...i also wondered what that ")0!1@ )0h " is... have read that in this channel a fedw times now and wondered what it is | 17:49 |
| Mikaela | phlixi_o: yes, it seems to happen daily or very often | 17:49 |
| phlixi_o | first guess was something like a weird kind of emoji which is not displayed/transmitted/whatever as intended | 17:50 |
| phlixi_o | i remember in pdgin some smilies where displayed as :sadsmilie: - i assume that it is replaced in the original client by an apropriate icon | 17:51 |
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| phlixi_o | but today we have unicode! :-) | 17:51 |
| phlixi_o | yeah, whatever... gn8^^ | 17:51 |
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| coderus | relax, eyea is just a big fan of jolla | 19:14 |
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| phlixi | and wtf means ")0!1@ )0h"`? | 19:40 |
| phlixi | btw | 19:41 |
| * phlixi is super relaxed | 19:41 | |
| phlixi | :) | 19:41 |
| Nicd- | phlixi: it means jolla joh | 19:41 |
| tbr | it's some bullcrap leet-speak | 19:41 |
| Nicd- | or maybe jolla joy? | 19:42 |
| phlixi | usually i have no problem detecting 1337534|< | 19:43 |
| phlixi | but that seems weird, but now i see it^^ | 19:43 |
| AL13N | i tried searching duckduckgo for ")0!1@ )0h " but i seem to have gotten to a weird site | 19:43 |
| AL13N | niice or some odd crap | 19:43 |
| phlixi | over time it will instantly result in logs of this channel^^ | 19:44 |
| AL13N | i don't like it | 19:44 |
| AL13N | heh | 19:44 |
| Nicd- | https://files.nytsoi.net/jolla_joy.txt | 19:47 |
| Nicd- | that's a lot of jolla joy | 19:48 |
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| phlixi | nice favicon Nicd- :-) | 19:57 |
| tadzik | hahah | 19:58 |
| phlixi | and btw, your certificate for https://nytsoi.net/ is expired | 19:58 |
| Nicd- | yeah I know | 19:58 |
| Nicd- | it's on my old server and I haven't had time to move it to my new one where I have letsencrypt set up for all domains with autorenew | 19:59 |
| Nicd- | but literally the only thing on that domain is a page with ♫ | 19:59 |
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| phlixi | display: box though kinda seems oldscool^^ | 20:06 |
| r0kk3rz | Nicd-: theres more than that | 20:08 |
| Nicd- | more what? | 20:08 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla joy | 20:09 |
| Nicd- | it was a simple grep | 20:09 |
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| pdanek | How is the hype going on? | 21:34 |
| pdanek | Hype for Intex? | 21:34 |
| pdanek | Will we get 3GB ram device? | 21:35 |
| pdanek | Just couple more days to find out! | 21:35 |
| HtheB | pdanek: it's India only | 21:36 |
| HtheB | you'd better off with Turing Phone | 21:36 |
| pdanek | HtheB: DHL exists | 21:37 |
| pdanek | Turing phone won't be released as soon as Intex | 21:37 |
| HtheB | pdanek: they won't SELL it... | 21:39 |
| HtheB | unless you find some reseller who does it though | 21:40 |
| pdanek | pdanek: Indians are EVERYWHERE | 21:40 |
| pdanek | I bet most of Sailors have Indian colleague in their office | 21:40 |
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| pdanek | it's not too difficult to ask for favor to resend it by their family back home | 21:40 |
| pdanek | and buy him a pint or two for that | 21:40 |
| HtheB | I offered a re-ship to everyone on tmo | 21:43 |
| HtheB | send quite a lot of Jolla's over the World | 21:43 |
| pdanek | yep, I know you do | 21:44 |
| pdanek | so others might do the same from India | 21:44 |
| pdanek | who wants Intex won't have a problem to get it | 21:44 |
| pdanek | world is small | 21:44 |
| pdanek | and honestly, that device will be so cheap that you won't need to think twice about lack of warranty services in Europe | 21:44 |
| pdanek | because you can probably buy 4 of those phones in price of one Turing phone | 21:45 |
| pdanek | Fairphone 2 is nice, but until it gets official Sailfish on it, I won't get into hype :D | 21:45 |
| phlixi | android support from store would be enough for me^^ | 21:46 |
| HtheB | yes | 21:48 |
| HtheB | but if it's another 1GB ram... | 21:48 |
| HtheB | i'll pass | 21:48 |
| HtheB | coderus: ping? | 21:48 |
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| pdanek | HtheB: another 1GB? | 21:51 |
| HtheB | yes | 21:51 |
| HtheB | just like Jolla | 21:51 |
| HtheB | 1GB ram phone | 21:51 |
| pdanek | HtheB: you mean the Intex device? | 21:52 |
| pdanek | there is no way it would be 1GB.... it will be 2GB at least | 21:53 |
| phlixi | as long as you dont run 2342 apps, 1gb ram is absolutely fine | 21:54 |
| phlixi | half of that if your apps are android ones | 21:54 |
| pdanek | phlixi: I do run plenty of apps, especially android ones | 21:55 |
| pdanek | so not fine | 21:55 |
| phlixi | if all you do is running tons of android apps, you might consider switching to android in the first place | 21:55 |
| pdanek | I won't limit myself just because of phone, I would rather use Android if I have to limit my apps etc | 21:55 |
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| pdanek | phlixi: that's wrong argument | 21:56 |
| pdanek | I'm sticking to Sailfish because I like the OS | 21:56 |
| pdanek | and once official app developers release sailfish version, I will install native app | 21:56 |
| pdanek | but if they don't, I use android version | 21:56 |
| HtheB | ^ agree | 21:56 |
| phlixi | wont happen soon for your 10 messengers | 21:57 |
| pdanek | phlixi: still I'm happy to use Sailfish as long as I have enough memory for my android apps | 21:57 |
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| pdanek | phlixi: and I know it won't happen soon.... but if everyone will keep this thinking, half of Sailfish users will be gone now | 21:58 |
| ShadowJK | For me it's more the web browser that needs ram | 21:58 |
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| pdanek | Imagine you market Sailfish as: if you need a lot of your favorite Android apps, please don't buy Intex phone, stick to Android | 22:00 |
| pdanek | Sailfish's only chance on the market is the Android apps support | 22:00 |
| phlixi_m | well, thats your point of view. | 22:01 |
| pdanek | and I was the guy before who tried to keep my accounts or IMs on minimum.... etc. | 22:01 |
| pdanek | now I don't live for my phone anymore.... my phone should live for me :D | 22:01 |
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| phlixi_m | dont think just because it is important for makes it important for everybody else | 22:02 |
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| pdanek | I'm speaking about the market majority | 22:02 |
| phlixi_m | ok, let me rephrase it | 22:02 |
| pdanek | Sailfish devices aren't and probably never will be marketed and sold as geek devices | 22:02 |
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| phlixi_m | dont think it is important for the majority, just because you cant imagune otherwise | 22:03 |
| pdanek | fair enough | 22:03 |
| phlixi_m | btw, general rule | 22:03 |
| pdanek | I can be very subjective in this too | 22:03 |
| r0kk3rz | i still maintain that in a market of hundreds of millions of devices each year, that there isnt room for some differentiation | 22:05 |
| phlixi_m | btw, i think they should be marketed by their usps and those to me seem pretty geeky | 22:05 |
| phlixi_m | and one of the usp (like for the fp) is, that they come without google and apple | 22:06 |
| pdanek | how is Jolla better from Google or Apple? | 22:07 |
| pdanek | I didn't see much openess to community | 22:07 |
| pdanek | more proprietary than google | 22:07 |
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| phlixi_m | i didnt say better | 22:08 |
| phlixi_m | i said without | 22:08 |
| r0kk3rz | jolla develops in open, google doesnt, thats a fairly big difference right there | 22:08 |
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| HtheB_ | pdanek: someone wants to buy your phone | 22:08 |
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| pdanek | r0kk3rz: https://sailfishos.org/developmentroadmap/ <--- pretty outdated | 22:09 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: and? | 22:10 |
| pdanek | it wasn't touched since August | 22:10 |
| pdanek | that's 6 months | 22:10 |
| pdanek | how is that open development? | 22:10 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: ever heard about AOSP? | 22:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | HtheB: you know aosp is code dropped right? | 22:11 |
| HtheB | believe it or not, Android is more open then Sailfish OS | 22:11 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: in terms of lines of code, sure. | 22:12 |
| phlixi_m | you can argue about that, especually is you take google services into acount ...and without google services, it practically no android | 22:12 |
| HtheB | Jolla Dalvik has no Google servises | 22:12 |
| HtheB | services | 22:12 |
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| pdanek | as a normal user who doesn't live for his phone.... as a very basic step to open to community would be updated development roadmap | 22:14 |
| pdanek | I won't go through mailings lists or git daily | 22:14 |
| pdanek | I just want someone will give the freakin' https://sailfishos.org/developmentroadmap/ at least 30 min of his time :D | 22:15 |
| phlixi | i prefer updates over vapor | 22:15 |
| phlixi | btw pdanek check todays logs of the meeting, there will be an update soon | 22:15 |
| pdanek | phlixi: cooool | 22:15 |
| pdanek | thanks | 22:16 |
| pdanek | the mer meeting is happening again? | 22:16 |
| r0kk3rz | who said you have to go through mailing lists or git? | 22:16 |
| pdanek | I will join next week | 22:16 |
| phlixi | you can join now | 22:16 |
| phlixi | ...and idle :D | 22:16 |
| pdanek | phlixi: I could | 22:17 |
| pdanek | but movie is better | 22:17 |
| pdanek | :D | 22:17 |
| pdanek | anyway, the only reason why am I on this IRC so much is because I really enjoy chatting and communities | 22:17 |
| pdanek | I'm even currently using Android.... until I can get 2GB+ ram Sailfish device | 22:18 |
| phlixi | and hows your battery doing with all those im networks? | 22:18 |
| pdanek | phlixi: I charge at work | 22:18 |
| pdanek | or in train | 22:18 |
| phlixi | my subway doesnt has that :/ | 22:19 |
| phlixi | neither our busses and trams | 22:19 |
| pdanek | trains in UK all have electric plug and Wifi | 22:19 |
| pdanek | on longer travelling I carry powerbank | 22:19 |
| phlixi | i doubt you get power in the trains here... but i use them not very often | 22:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek: not all, but the newer ones do | 22:20 |
| pdanek | r0kk3rz: oh right!!! I was lucky then to see all | 22:20 |
| phlixi | however, when i said "without google/android" i didnt meant because of opennes, only because og the huge amount of data they gather | 22:20 |
| pdanek | phlixi: how do you know Jolla doesn't gather data? | 22:21 |
| pdanek | because they said so? | 22:21 |
| pdanek | :) | 22:21 |
| phlixi | thats pretty simple, wiretap your connection and compare | 22:21 |
| phlixi | usual android talks to google every few SECONDS! | 22:21 |
| phlixi | wile doing nothing | 22:21 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: i swear its like a different country up here in the north, we've got some old infrastructure and trains up here | 22:21 |
| pdanek | right | 22:21 |
| pdanek | r0kk3rz: Scotland? | 22:22 |
| r0kk3rz | england | 22:22 |
| r0kk3rz | scotland is actually a different country | 22:22 |
| pdanek | r0kk3rz: I'm in Birmingham now, usually commuting to Warwick | 22:22 |
| pdanek | and Chiltern railways is great | 22:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | birmingham is pretty far south | 22:23 |
| pdanek | for me not south enough | 22:23 |
| pdanek | still colder than I would like | 22:23 |
| pdanek | but tiny improvement to Dublin | 22:24 |
| pdanek | it's actually not a bad city | 22:24 |
| pdanek | the public image is Birmingham is pretty rough | 22:25 |
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| r0kk3rz | never been, must go one of these days | 22:25 |
| pdanek | and for last month I'm here..... it's not bad at all.... great restaurants, friendly people, good train connections around, everything is cheap and I feel safe on streets, at least in city center | 22:26 |
| phlixi | pdanek: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2016/mer-meeting.2016-02-11-14.30.log.html | 22:26 |
| pdanek | there isn't much sightseeing really, but who cares about that to live.... it only attracts annoying tourists | 22:26 |
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| pdanek | phlixi: thanks! I was too lazy to open the meeting log now.... you're the best! :) | 22:27 |
| phlixi | i know | 22:27 |
| phlixi | :D | 22:27 |
| phlixi | gn8 | 22:27 |
| pdanek | gn8 | 22:28 |
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| ICantCook | I ordered a Jolla phone on Febuary 4th with fedex shipping. All I have is the paypal receipt. | 23:23 |
| ICantCook | how do I get the tracking number and see the progress? | 23:23 |
| ICantCook | I don't seem to have an account with the jolla website | 23:23 |
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