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| citylight2 | did anyone get exfat to work on jolla? | 12:27 |
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| stephg | citylight2: there is a package for it in openrepos? may be fuse, don't remember | 12:29 |
| citylight2 | are you using it? | 12:29 |
| stephg | nope | 12:29 |
| stephg | don't believe in it. Have no windows so ext4 is fine for me :) | 12:29 |
| mornfall | and, more of 'no news' | 12:31 |
| citylight2 | other issue, the famous android app waze fails due to not finding gps | 12:32 |
| kjetilho | it works for me | 12:33 |
| kjetilho | but I don't think it can access coarse location based on non-gps data (just guessing) | 12:34 |
| mornfall | citylight2: you may need to run a native app which uses the gps | 12:35 |
| mornfall | android gps never really worked any other way for me | 12:35 |
| ggabriel | uhm... HERE for android switches on sfos's gps no problem | 12:36 |
| ggabriel | stephg: so you believe that not believing may make exfat disappear? :P | 12:36 |
| mornfall | ggabriel: switch on, yes, but any time the app disappears from the display it loses fix | 12:36 |
| mornfall | even if it's just the screensaver kicking in | 12:37 |
| mornfall | and it does take a while to get a fix, so overall it seems like the gps is broken | 12:37 |
| ggabriel | mornfall: oh, ok, makes sense - didn't test that use case | 12:37 |
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| citylight2 | kjetilho which waze version works? | 12:40 |
| kjetilho | 3.9.9.0 it seems | 12:41 |
| kjetilho | installed via Aptoide | 12:42 |
| citylight2 | thanks | 12:42 |
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| citylight2 | I am also seeking for an app like owntracks that send my location to a mqtt broker | 12:42 |
| citylight2 | so my home computer can heat the huose when I leave work | 12:43 |
| citylight2 | owntracks requires google services | 12:43 |
| tbr | should be trivial to do. A patch for IPHB is in my fork of the apache paho python library. | 12:43 |
| citylight2 | is anyone here using mqtt? I am not familier with QT, so I can't do the app UI, but I can do the service code in python | 12:45 |
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| * tbr is using mqtt | 12:50 | |
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| tbr | in the other direction, to push messages to my jolla in real time | 12:50 |
| tbr | works very well for over a year now | 12:51 |
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| citylight2 | is there a fast way to get a UI on jolla suing python? | 12:53 |
| Yaniel^ | PyOtherSide? | 12:54 |
| Yaniel^ | it's even allowed in harbour IIRC | 12:54 |
| citylight2 | thanks | 12:54 |
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| citylight2 | I saw two option to load exfat on jolla, one is fuse | 12:57 |
| citylight2 | which is recommended to work? | 12:58 |
| lainwir3d | fuse "module" will probably be heavier | 12:58 |
| lainwir3d | but easier to get working | 12:58 |
| lainwir3d | and yeah, pyotherside is allowed in harbour, my calculator app is using it | 12:59 |
| citylight2 | please share link to code for this calc so I may see how | 12:59 |
| lainwir3d | citylight2: https://github.com/lainwir3d/sailfish-rpn-calculator | 13:00 |
| citylight2 | thanks | 13:00 |
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| citylight2 | oh ya, I was also looking for an app to silence the ringing of the phone when I am in a meeting them resume the ringing | 13:22 |
| lainwir3d | look at "Situations" app | 13:23 |
| lainwir3d | not sure it's what you're looking for | 13:23 |
| citylight2 | they do not do calender | 13:24 |
| lainwir3d | oh :-( | 13:24 |
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| sharix | User-Agent: Telepathy-Rakia/0.7.4 sofia-sip/1.12.11, SDP m=audio 0 ??? | 16:35 |
| sharix | Can't establish RTP with tlepathy-rakia. | 16:36 |
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| sharix | The phone "rings" (with dark display and without ringtone, but I get the voicecall-ui to answer) | 16:36 |
| sharix | After answering, the connection drops (RTP doesn't settle) because in the SDP, JollaPhone doesn't offer any audio codec | 16:37 |
| sharix | Hints? | 16:37 |
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| tbr | sharix: I'd try by not restricting codecs on the server side. | 16:47 |
| sharix | tbr: Thanks, added gsm to 711a+u+722, to no avail | 16:47 |
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| sharix | I guess, I'm missing some package on the phone, and sofiasif doesn't detect available codecs. | 16:49 |
| sharix | The SDP doesn't offer a codec, which is the cause of the problem | 16:50 |
| tbr | there is a together item that names packages | 16:50 |
| sharix | Btw, who has decided the world needs "mc-tool"??? What about good old config files? Gish, this is all so undocumented... | 16:51 |
| tbr | go complain to the telepathy developers | 16:52 |
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| Yaniel | while we are at it, let me tell you about our new overlord, systemd | 16:52 |
| lainwir3d | Praise systemd ! | 16:52 |
| tbr | I for one welcome… | 16:52 |
| sharix | tbr: I used that, but it's only sofiasip and telepathy-rakia listed :-( Probably this is outdated?! | 16:52 |
| tbr | sharix: that is probably correct | 16:53 |
| tbr | I last time tried on 1.7 | 16:54 |
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| tbr | I'd concentrate on your server | 16:56 |
| sharix | tbr: These days, jolla-settgins-account-extension-sip (or the like) makes things even mor complicated, since it brings singnond into the game | 16:56 |
| sharix | password isn't stored in the sofiasip settings anymore, it somehow intercommunicates with this strange account frameword | 16:56 |
| sharix | Strange to me! | 16:57 |
| sharix | At least... | 16:57 |
| tbr | https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/?answer=60650#post-id-60650 - that lists codecs | 16:57 |
| sharix | tbr: Thanks, I saw that, but the opst is 1½years old. My SDP looks different. I'm havig various SIP clients (even my old Nokia E7) running here without problems. | 16:59 |
| tbr | nothing has changed. I'm rather sure | 16:59 |
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| sharix | I do have some locally uncommon settings, e.g. account-name != auth-name | 17:00 |
| sharix | tbr: I'll look at different places if yoU#r confident that nothing changed regarding sofiasip integration | 17:01 |
| sharix | Can anyone confirm SIP is working on his Saimaa? At least answering calls? | 17:01 |
| tbr | once I get home I could check if my other jolla is up to date and try sip on that | 17:02 |
| sharix | tbr: You'd do me a big favour! I need to get SIP working in order to retire my E7. Reading websites on E7 isn't that fun tehes days ;-) | 17:03 |
| tbr | "working". I expect that you still need to hold the phone upside down. | 17:04 |
| sharix | Sorry, I don't get it? | 17:05 |
| sharix | to name the correct SIP-settings-UI which appeared additionally to the packages listed in th together-link: | 17:08 |
| sharix | jolla-settings-accounts-extensions-sip | 17:08 |
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| tbr | I've never seen that work. last time I checked it had a version mismatch | 17:14 |
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| tbr | sharix: it used to be that you had to hold the phone upside down due to missing audio routing | 17:15 |
| sharix | tbr: accounts-extensions-sip is confusing account-name and user-auth names, but it was valuable for me to get more info about sofiasip options – still quicker to install and mc-tool dump intead of fetching and reading code ;-) | 17:17 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: O_o | 17:17 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: you had to hack alsa or pulse settings first for that too | 17:17 |
| tbr | otherwise only one direction would work | 17:18 |
| sharix | tbr: What's the result if I turn it upside down? Some kind of mic/speaker swicht? | 17:18 |
| tbr | with the hack you get audio on the speaker and mic is only taken from the top mic | 17:18 |
| * Stskeeps just hopes the @$@$@ ui gets oss'ed sooner or later.. | 17:18 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:18 |
| sharix | oic | 17:18 |
| * tbr doesn't expect that to happen anytime soon - is a realist | 17:18 | |
| Stskeeps | yeah.. better first to be happy when it happens instead of hoping | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | it's a bit like teenage love | 17:19 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:19 |
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| sharix | Slightly different question: Is anyone aware of "Emoji" extensions for JP? I mean smilieys as picons. Saw that they/some are unicode registered?!? | 17:26 |
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| sharix | I never thought about such things, I'm the nerd, but others have such things on other phones.... | 17:27 |
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| phlixi_o | i just know that i regularly get emails from my sister which i have to have a look on my pc, because they only consiost of a single character | 17:27 |
| Stskeeps | as long as it's not the firefox os emojis, which scare the living hell out ofm e.. | 17:27 |
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| Stskeeps | https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2015/09/firefox-os-emoji/ | 17:28 |
| phlixi_o | ...the jolla displays a box (like broken char, missing font whatever) and in thunderbird ill see its a thumbsup or thumbs down | 17:28 |
| phlixi_o | 👍 | 17:29 |
| phlixi_o | even mirc is capable of displaying that :D | 17:29 |
| Nicd- | you can install the emoji keyboard from openrepos | 17:30 |
| Nicd- | it will add support for most emoji | 17:30 |
| phlixi_o | and that will bring font suport for unicode? | 17:30 |
| sharix | Xchat isn't :-( But that's xchat I compiled 5 years ago... | 17:30 |
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| Nicd- | phlixi_o: for the emoji at least | 17:30 |
| Nicd- | there is already unicode support, just that the font does not have glyphs for all characters | 17:30 |
| phlixi_o | i would only need the font support, no need for fiddling around with my keyboard^^ | 17:31 |
| phlixi_o | but i will have a look at it, thanks for the idea Nicd- | 17:31 |
| Nicd- | what I use is "The Emoji Keyboard" by Penguin | 17:31 |
| Nicd- | you don't have to use the emoji keyboard itself, it will be added as one option in the keyboard language selector | 17:31 |
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| sharix | Nicd-: Thanks, but I'm scared it interferes with hardware keyboard support or different layouts. Hesitated trying, becuase time is so limited ;-( | 17:31 |
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| phlixi_o | https://openrepos.net/content/penguin/emoji-keyboard | 17:31 |
| Nicd- | sharix: I have the TOHKBD and it does not affect it | 17:32 |
| phlixi_o | ill have a tohkb2 too (ok, i am no longer using it^^) | 17:32 |
| Raim | that only allows typing emojis, it does not change the way they are displayed | 17:32 |
| Nicd- | phlixi_o: that's the one | 17:32 |
| phlixi_o | Raim thanks | 17:32 |
| Nicd- | Raim: it does | 17:32 |
| phlixi_o | then i dont need it | 17:32 |
| phlixi_o | :sadface: | 17:32 |
| Nicd- | Raim: "emoji font including full set of iOS 5+ and Whatsapp Emoji characters" | 17:33 |
| Raim | Nicd-: okay, I just checked it actually installs /usr/share/fonts/custom/SailfishEmoji.otf | 17:33 |
| * phlixi_o longer sad | 17:33 | |
| Nicd- | don't speak if you don't know what you are talking about ;) | 17:33 |
| * phlixi_o NO longer sad | 17:33 | |
| phlixi_o | :) | 17:33 |
| Raim | Nicd-: well, stuff like that should be in a separate package IMHO. | 17:33 |
| Nicd- | that is a fair point | 17:34 |
| Nicd- | personally I don't care | 17:34 |
| Nicd- | phlixi_o: note: "Does not support new iOS 8.3 Emoji" | 17:34 |
| Nicd- | I think that means Unicode 8.0 emoji | 17:34 |
| phlixi_o | if it improves my dayly live in that i have less emails where i have to check the content on a different device, then thats an improvement :-) | 17:35 |
| sharix | Have these extra characters been used in SMS-apps on other phones? I guess it was more a multu-character-match-translation of these messenger apps | 17:35 |
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| Nicd- | sharix: all modern mobile OSes use these new Unicode emoji | 17:36 |
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| Nicd- | so iOS, Android and WP | 17:36 |
| Nicd- | also OS X has emoji input | 17:36 |
| phlixi_o | 👍 | 17:36 |
| phlixi_m | meh | 17:36 |
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| sharix | Nicd-: Thanks, always happy learning news :-) I thought it's been just a translation behind the scenes | 17:37 |
| sharix | Is SMS unicode aware? | 17:37 |
| Tegu | <U+1F44D> | 17:38 |
| Nicd- | sharix: I think all modern phones should be able to read unicode SMS (don't know what charset they use, probably UTF-8) | 17:38 |
| Nicd- | but note that you will be able to fit less characters since they take multiple bytes | 17:38 |
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| Nicd- | an emoji is usually 4 bytes (UTF-8) | 17:38 |
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| phlixi_o | i remember reading about that in connection with the patch to display remaining chars in the sms you currently type | 17:39 |
| sharix | http://apps.timwhitlock.info/emoji/tables/unicode | 17:40 |
| sharix | Nice vendor overview. Just missing since when... I completeley missed that | 17:40 |
| EyEa | Jolla )01!@ )01 | 17:40 |
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| phlixi_o | wow | 17:46 |
| phlixi_o | i think i am stuck in the emoji keyboard | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | now you can only communicate in emoji | 17:47 |
| Nicd- | phlixi_o: long press the planet button (bottom left) | 17:47 |
| Nicd- | it's the space | 17:47 |
| phlixi_o | yerah | 17:48 |
| phlixi_o | thanks | 17:48 |
| phlixi_o | right in that moment i found that :-) | 17:48 |
| phlixi_o | thats great, email from my sister now displays the emoji | 17:48 |
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| phlixi_o | 👍 | 17:49 |
| phlixi_m | 🐍 | 17:49 |
| phlixi_m | 😅 | 17:49 |
| phlixi_m | great | 17:50 |
| phlixi_m | gn8 😔 | 17:50 |
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| phlixi_o | gn8 :-) | 17:50 |
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| Nicd- | 😊 | 17:51 |
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