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| M-bobsummerwill | Does Sailfish OS use armel or armhf binaries? | 01:40 |
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| M-bobsummerwill | And what about Android? It is always armel ABI? | 01:40 |
| M-bobsummerwill | And just to verify my understanding, armel binaries are "upwards compatible", right? They will just execute in a sub-optimal way, not taking advantage of the FP support in the CPU. | 01:42 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: how about you stop being such a dick to people. if it worked for him, it worked for him | 05:32 |
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| kimmoli | uninstalling paint worked for me. there is something wrong if you have installed app from harbour, and updated it from other repos (obs, or) | 05:59 |
| kimmoli | or way around | 05:59 |
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| sakustar | something someone told me to copy paste in terminal worked for me. but i keep losing them app covers :p | 06:38 |
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| Ingvix | how excatly am I suppose to swipe to get off folder back to the main view? It seems that a horizontal swipe does this but it seems a bit random when it works | 07:04 |
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| Nicd- | in app grid? | 07:05 |
| Nicd- | click somewhere (not on an app or the header) on the screen | 07:06 |
| Ingvix | oh... | 07:07 |
| Ingvix | thanks | 07:07 |
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| coderus | Nicd-: stfu | 07:35 |
| coderus | Ingvix: if you like swipes: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-launcher-combined-patch | 07:36 |
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| Nicd- | from finnish news: jolla in economical trouble, half of employees will be laid off temporarily (dunno how to better translate lomautus) | 08:09 |
| Nicd- | http://www.aamulehti.fi/Kotimaa/1195006777553/artikkeli/jolla+ajautunut+talousvaikeuksiin+yli+puolet+henkilostosta+lomautetaan.html (in finnish) | 08:10 |
| Nicd- | they will tell more today | 08:10 |
| pp__ | "surprise" :( | 08:10 |
| tbr | welcome to the finnish national sport of YT | 08:10 |
| pp__ | YT-ala :-) | 08:11 |
| Ingvix | why do they have economical troubles? There shouldn't be problems with demand for their products | 08:16 |
| Ingvix | or so I thought atleast | 08:16 |
| pp__ | 25k phones shipped, 200 tablets shipped | 08:17 |
| Nicd- | yeah, those numbers are nothing | 08:18 |
| pp__ | the unshipped tablets count as debt, mind you | 08:18 |
| Nicd- | tbr: thanks, "forced leave" is a better translation | 08:18 |
| pp__ | or furlough | 08:19 |
| Ingvix | why haven't they shipped them | 08:19 |
| pp__ | (tho I guess they show up in hk subsidiary balance sheet but who knows how that works) | 08:20 |
| Nicd- | I'm afraid if the Intex phone doesn't fly, this will be the end of Jolla | 08:20 |
| birdzhang | :( | 08:21 |
| citylight2 | i did see them selling a jolla phone two days ago at 169 euro... | 08:21 |
| Ingvix | where | 08:22 |
| citylight2 | shop.jolla.com | 08:22 |
| citylight2 | 199 now | 08:22 |
| Ingvix | oh, they raised it then | 08:23 |
| tbr | Nicd-: yeah, I always found the commonly used translation of "temporary layoff" rather weird ;) | 08:23 |
| tbr | Ingvix: selling products is a zero sum game at best for jolla | 08:24 |
| Ingvix | okay | 08:24 |
| locusf | the business is pretty tooth and nail all over | 08:25 |
| pp__ | tho if things are really bad getting rid of inventory might be a very good thing | 08:25 |
| pp__ | well, s/very good/vital/ | 08:25 |
| locusf | in ict generally | 08:25 |
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| tbr | *IF* things are really so tight, then they might not have the money to pay the supplier to actually get and ship the tablets | 08:27 |
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| entil | can't have been fun to sit at those meetings, looking at the igg campaign funds discounted against r&d and logistics | 08:27 |
| entil | "ok, we passed the point where it starts to hurt" | 08:28 |
| tbr | btw: did anyone notice that the news hit _exactly_ a year after the tablet campaing started. Sad coincidence | 08:28 |
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| pp__ | There's fun like "activate r&d into balance sheet", it's like pissing in your pants :-) | 08:29 |
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| entil | kickstarting products is anti-business :/ | 08:29 |
| Hartzi | coderus: wtf | 08:30 |
| pp__ | then eventually you find out you've reached "negative equity" | 08:30 |
| entil | it's a bit like naked-shorting | 08:31 |
| Hartzi | coderus: that was required to do before my phone was able to update. No need to be an idiot.... | 08:31 |
| entil | I remember doing a fermi-style estimate that they'd need to get the tablets out in about half a year to be in the black, like completely handwavy | 08:31 |
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| coderus | Hartzi: ololo | 08:36 |
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| Hartzi | and kimmoli propably explained what was the problem: | 08:39 |
| Hartzi | <07:59:20> < kimmoli> uninstalling paint worked for me. there is something wrong if you have installed app from harbour, and updated it from other repos (obs, or) | 08:39 |
| Hartzi | nothing personal there.. | 08:39 |
| Stskeeps | as a general note, we will still have the community meeting in the afternoon at 14:30. | 08:40 |
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| Stskeeps | albeit i suspect 'general discussion' will take a little longer | 08:40 |
| Nokius_work | Stskeeps: thanks for the hands up | 08:42 |
| Nicd- | Nokius_work: I think you mean "heads up"? | 08:42 |
| Nokius_work | ;) | 08:43 |
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| pp__ | aamulehti article updated | 08:49 |
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| ln- | http://yle.fi/uutiset/windows-alypuhelinten_alamaki_jatkuu__sovelluskehittajat_karttavat_puhelimia/8465200 | 09:02 |
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| lainwir3d | o/ | 09:43 |
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| pp_ | slightly more negative tone: http://yle.fi/uutiset/aamulehti_jolla_lomauttaa_puolet_talousahdingossa__tabletti_vaakalaudalla/8466546 | 09:53 |
| pp_ | "you will get tablets" vs. "we'll try to make tablet shipments happen, considering financing" | 09:54 |
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| Acce | maybe there is difference in opinion depending on who you ask :) | 09:58 |
| pp_ | or how much journalist pressed interviewee :-) | 09:58 |
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| phlixi | so in the worst case i financed with the tablet purchase the updates for my phone for the last year. fine for me (i doubt they would have got so much money if they had asked for financing the updates for a year) | 10:20 |
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| marja | sorry to hear about the bad weather Jolla's in | 10:39 |
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| marja | does ~/.qmf/database/qmailstore.db* belong to the Jolla e-mail client? in other words, can i safely remove it before trying to setup my mail account from the beginning ... uninstalling and reinstalling the client wasn't enough, nor was removing everything in ~/.local/share/jolla-email/ | 10:44 |
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| Morpog | sad news | 10:45 |
| Morpog | Makes me wonder if we get any more updates for SailfishOS, expecially on tablet which is still far from stable | 10:46 |
| Yaniel | I don't think there are many people who care about tablet updates | 10:46 |
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| Morpog | Makes me wonder if I can get Win10 or AOSP/CM on it | 10:46 |
| coderus | marja: yes its email cient files | 10:46 |
| coderus | what is the problem btw? | 10:46 |
| marja | coderus: thx a lot | 10:46 |
| entil | if the worst happens, maybe a sailfish ui for | 10:47 |
| entil | if the worst happens, maybe a sailfish ui for µg | 10:47 |
| marja | coderus: syncing for ever (even many hours) | 10:47 |
| coderus | Morpog: i hope so, hope they push current beta release to EA before | 10:47 |
| marja | coderus: I had forgotten jolla-email runs in the background, and then decided to move and delete a lot of mails from the same mail account on my laptop.... I guess that drove jolla-mail crazy... rebooting and such didn't help, nor the things i mentioned above | 10:49 |
| marja | s/move/move into folders and new folders/ | 10:50 |
| coderus | marja: i'm using android gmail client, not using sailfish native one :) | 10:51 |
| Morpog | Android GMAIL client crashes alot on my Moto X Play :D | 10:53 |
| marja | coderus: I'm not using gmail ;-) | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog: come to the collaboration meeting and let's talk about such things. | 10:53 |
| Morpog | marja: it can handle non gmail account too nowadays | 10:53 |
| marja | Morpog: ah, good to know | 10:54 |
| Morpog | Stskeeps: community meeting? | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog: yeah | 10:54 |
| Morpog | ooh, today! | 10:55 |
| Morpog | I guess it's too late for new meeting points | 10:57 |
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| ggabriel | 2nd jolla phone shipped \o/ | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | Morpog: there's 'general discussion' that people are welcome to have fun with | 10:57 |
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| pdanek | Hey guys, | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | moo pdanek | 11:04 |
| pdanek | I just came back from my vacation in India and reading the news about lay-offs. | 11:04 |
| pdanek | Is it real? | 11:04 |
| pdanek | I'm shocked. | 11:04 |
| Stskeeps | there'll be communication coming later | 11:05 |
| pdanek | Should we be worried? | 11:05 |
| pdanek | Perhaps Sailfish community meeting on IRC would be great? | 11:06 |
| Stskeeps | there's one, this afternoon, you're free to join | 11:07 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: they are temporary layoffs or "forced leave" | 11:09 |
| Nicd- | or furlough | 11:09 |
| Nicd- | but bad news in any case | 11:09 |
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| urs | may I point out that this would be a good opportunity to open source everything? :) | 11:20 |
| urs | (then again, from my point of view, any time would be a good time for that) | 11:21 |
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| entil | Stskeeps: where's the community meeting, in case I or someone want to lurk? | 11:27 |
| Scelt | #mer-meeting? | 11:28 |
| eugenio | @ 14:30 UTC | 11:28 |
| entil | I'll consider lurking if I'm not afk :) | 11:29 |
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| coderus | !time | 12:03 |
| merbot | coderus: Error: "time" is not a valid command. | 12:03 |
| coderus | y!utctime | 12:03 |
| coderus | !utctime | 12:03 |
| merbot | coderus: Error: "utctime" is not a valid command. | 12:03 |
| coderus | y:( | 12:03 |
| coderus | ywhat time is now? | 12:03 |
| ggabriel | coderus: 12.03 | 12:03 |
| coderus | yok :D | 12:03 |
| ggabriel | GMT | 12:03 |
| coderus | omg, played cs too much, pressing Y to chat :D | 12:04 |
| ggabriel | lol | 12:04 |
| Aciid | ranks? | 12:04 |
| Aciid | le | 12:04 |
| coderus | lem :) | 12:09 |
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| sjtoik | bummer news | 12:14 |
| ggabriel | yup | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | anybody has a few million to spare? :) | 12:21 |
| tadzik | le here | 12:22 |
| tadzik | but I've been smurfing recently on a steam controller, it's good fun | 12:22 |
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| Tegu | is it any good compred to those conventional dual stick controllers? somebody somewhere said that the shape is not as good as it coud, as it is difficult to use it for longer periods. no idea, though | 12:26 |
| tadzik | the way I found it to be viable requires splitting the actions of turning around and aiming | 12:27 |
| tadzik | so you turn with the touchpads, yes, but then aim precisely with the gyroscopes built into the thing | 12:27 |
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| tadzik | which makes spray control actually feel quite awesome in CS :D | 12:28 |
| tadzik | I don't imagine playing an FPS on an xbox controller (though I've seen some plat TF2 players do that in pugs, quite hilarous indeed), yet I've had moderate successes against online players with this one | 12:28 |
| tadzik | oh, but compared to dualsticks, hard to say | 12:29 |
| caitlinb | i’ve yet to find a control mechanic better than splatoon’s | 12:29 |
| tadzik | I'm not a big fan of controller-oriented games, I'm yet to try using it for something controller-y over a longer period of time | 12:29 |
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| Aciid | steam controller looks sick | 12:30 |
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| sergot | hi \o | 12:44 |
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| Nokius_work | coderus: try time.is/utc :P | 12:44 |
| sergot | is there any way to "reinstall" the sailfishOS on my Jolla? it seems like it's broken since the update to 2.0.0.10, the camera doesn'twork, it reboots itself randomly, and I can't get rid of the notification about update's available | 12:46 |
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| ggabriel | sergot: factory reset from settings? | 12:47 |
| ggabriel | (you'll have to upgrade again, you'll lose data etc) | 12:47 |
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| sergot | ggabriel: I thought it resets only the settings, will give it a try, thanks! :) | 12:48 |
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| SHIHUA | what happened to jolla? | 12:53 |
| shpank | SHIHUA: what do you mean? | 12:54 |
| SHIHUA | why some staffs leave? | 12:54 |
| Yaniel | people at jolla have been coming and going all the time tbh | 12:54 |
| SHIHUA | Marc Dillon gone.why? | 12:55 |
| ggabriel | purseue other opportunities, that happened ages ago | 12:56 |
| ggabriel | same reason why the chicken crossed the road really | 12:56 |
| ggabriel | the big news is that they annouced financial issues that they are addressing by layoffs and whatnot, there's not much more than that that the public can know | 12:57 |
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| SHIHUA | omg. | 12:58 |
| SHIHUA | if it means that we can not get jolla2? | 12:59 |
| ggabriel | let's say that they are aiming to deliver the tablets | 12:59 |
| ggabriel | if you haven't already, buy a jolla | 12:59 |
| tbr | if they can close their funding round | 12:59 |
| tadzik | hrm, sdk update is sure that the VM is running | 12:59 |
| SHIHUA | I have got Jolla phone last year. | 13:00 |
| SHIHUA | but it doesn't work at work now. | 13:01 |
| SHIHUA | so,i want Jolla phone 2. | 13:01 |
| SHIHUA | but it doesn't work at all. | 13:01 |
| ggabriel | intex says they'll have one by end of year | 13:01 |
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| SHIHUA | is it end of year now? | 13:02 |
| ggabriel | ok, they said dec/15 | 13:02 |
| ggabriel | end of year is officially 23:59:59 dec 31st | 13:03 |
| ggabriel | the last nanosecond | 13:03 |
| SHIHUA | =.= | 13:03 |
| ggabriel | also, they said announced dec/15 | 13:03 |
| SHIHUA | ok.er,thanks. | 13:03 |
| ggabriel | check twitter, I think that's where it is | 13:03 |
| Morpog | well, it seems they lay off about 50% of staff | 13:04 |
| ggabriel | I don't know where you are, but they work in India and they said the phone would be available to EU | 13:04 |
| SHIHUA | I know that. | 13:04 |
| tbr | I don't think Intex has any distribution channels and other infrastructure outside india. So I don't expect anything to become available outside india any time soon | 13:04 |
| SHIHUA | but there are many people leave jolla.so,i warry about... | 13:05 |
| ggabriel | I'm only saying what I heard they said... in twitter... | 13:05 |
| Morpog | https://t.co/lRpA4AVXsw | 13:05 |
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| Morpog | long link: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fi/2015/11/news-jolla-financial-difficulties.html | 13:05 |
| SHIHUA | Sorry I am China now. | 13:06 |
| SHIHUA | so, I can not use Twitter. ... | 13:06 |
| Ingvix | what was the meeting channel? | 13:07 |
| Ingvix | mer-meet or something | 13:07 |
| tadzik | #mer-meeting | 13:07 |
| Ingvix | okay | 13:07 |
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| SHIHUA | how about the financial condition ? | 13:09 |
| * ggabriel didn't know that China couldn't use twitter and wonders what kind of world we live in | 13:09 | |
| SHIHUA | loss? | 13:09 |
| ggabriel | SHIHUA: read that blogpost | 13:09 |
| Stskeeps | ggabriel: time to read about the great firewall of china | 13:09 |
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| ggabriel | Stskeeps: yeah, knew about that and the google drama, but clearly not up to date | 13:10 |
| SHIHUA | i can not enter the websites in abroad.... | 13:10 |
| ggabriel | SHIHUA: like tbr said, pending [successful] funding round | 13:11 |
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| kryca | hi guys and girls.... oh my, i feel like socializing here after this kind of news | 13:14 |
| SHIHUA | ggabriel: er,thanks. | 13:14 |
| Nicd- | Morpog: reviewjolla failed to say that they are temporary layoffs, not permanent | 13:17 |
| Nicd- | I commented on the blog post | 13:18 |
| kryca | I don't mind balancing brtfs every week, I don't mind the dark display (jPhone), I don't mind the extra steps to keep in sync with my peers. I just hope the story continues. | 13:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | kryca: wise words | 13:19 |
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| ggabriel | let's hope they get money then :P | 13:20 |
| daitheflu | kryca: I hope we all in here agree with that | 13:20 |
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| Nicd- | I wonder why Jolla never got around to implementing paid app support for example | 13:21 |
| Nicd- | too much work in other things? | 13:21 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: my best guess is complexity | 13:21 |
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| ggabriel | from experience in ecommerce, payment is always the most painful point. and the more countries involved, the worse it gets | 13:22 |
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| Smar | that and until there actually is traffic, it’s not generating *that* much income | 13:22 |
| Smar | bootstrapping in expensive | 13:22 |
| ggabriel | it's even worse when you have no providers out there that make things easy for you | 13:23 |
| kryca | you could join Kagi or some similar provider, nothing fancy. | 13:23 |
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| SHIHUA | the os is so nice. pray for jolla. | 13:24 |
| kryca | a lot of things could be done (including providing a SDK installer that doesn't lock solid), but after all it was/is just 100 people | 13:24 |
| ggabriel | i don't think there's kagi (or other) equivalent for mobile stores | 13:24 |
| kryca | that's an amazing job they did with so few ressources. | 13:24 |
| ggabriel | amazing that people want more news from jolla | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | let's use all their very few resources to write blogs | 13:32 |
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| kryca | :-) | 13:35 |
| Aciid | Which comes first, Jolla Tablet or Bankruptcy? | 13:35 |
| ggabriel | well, some people got their tablet already | 13:36 |
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| ggabriel | and they're happy, which makes this worse :P | 13:36 |
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| Aciid | https://twitter.com/AciidXOR/status/667335663130386432 | 13:37 |
| lainwir3d | haha | 13:38 |
| kryca | could we do without this kind of humour? | 13:38 |
| Aciid | no, because then it would just be angry IGG comments | 13:39 |
| lainwir3d | from the perspective of a guy who already have his Jolla Tablet, this is quite funny. | 13:39 |
| kryca | quite an insult to everyone you ripped his a** off for delivering despite the circumstances | 13:39 |
| Aciid | I love reading them tho, and also any failed kickstarter angry peasants is also funny | 13:39 |
| Aciid | it is funny as hell, I'm not even mad that i dont have it yet | 13:40 |
| ggabriel | well, yeah, some reactions are funny indeed | 13:41 |
| Aciid | like even one guy said he is preparing a class action lawsuit | 13:42 |
| Aciid | my sides are in the orbit | 13:42 |
| * ggabriel hopes he can find teenager reactions of parents not getting them ipads/iphones for xmas | 13:43 | |
| locusf | against jolla? | 13:43 |
| ggabriel | some people are going to launch a drone attack | 13:43 |
| Aciid | yeah there will always be people who don't understand what it means when you donate to a startup | 13:43 |
| Aciid | your money has gone right up the nose of the owners from an ipad | 13:43 |
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| narchie1 | oh snap | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | Aciid: we're not riot-e | 13:44 |
| Morpog | many people don't understand there is a risk when pledging kickstarter/indigogo campaigns | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | what a great film | 13:44 |
| Morpog | Well, I can relax, as I got my tablet already <3 | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | "you can have 10mi tomorrow in the bank" "I have to think about it" | 13:44 |
| lainwir3d | +1 | 13:44 |
| pdanek | Stskeeps: which time is the community meeting on IRC please? | 13:44 |
| lainwir3d | : | 13:44 |
| lainwir3d | :D | 13:45 |
| ggabriel | I learned a lot | 13:45 |
| Morpog | 14:30 UTC | 13:45 |
| pdanek | oh, @ 14:30 UTC | 13:45 |
| pdanek | got it | 13:45 |
| locusf | riot-e :D | 13:45 |
| locusf | I know a couple of guys from there | 13:45 |
| pp_ | hey, they had (a few) fanatic customers too | 13:46 |
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| Stskeeps | you can watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lrIi0ce5E while you wait for community meeting | 13:47 |
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| Acce | I faintly remember that riot-e thing... someone was talking about how it could have been real success, if the guys didn't mess it up | 13:52 |
| Acce | oor was it on the vid that Stskeeps just linked | 13:53 |
| kryca | hilarious... didn't hear about riot-e before | 13:54 |
| ArtVandalae | I don't understand the people that think $10m is a lot of money. It's a lotta money for an individual. For a business with a decent number of employees, it's chump change | 13:55 |
| Acce | ArtVandalae: the fact is that most people think from a individual viewpoint | 13:55 |
| ggabriel | ArtVandalae: I think that at the time of riot-e, it was a lot of money | 13:55 |
| ggabriel | ArtVandalae: better explained: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKKHSAE1gIs | 13:56 |
| ArtVandalae | haha | 13:56 |
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| Acce | the individual viewpoint is also why high salaries of some CEOs are often frowned upon (even if they sometimes are higher than the CEOs worth) | 13:57 |
| ArtVandalae | ggabriel, thanks :) I was watching riot-e when I said that, but I was also talking about the people, talking about Jolla | 13:59 |
| pdanek | According to latest news, Intex India should be in Q1 2016. | 14:00 |
| pdanek | Sailfish India* | 14:00 |
| pdanek | So previous claims that first Sailfish Intex phone will be by end of 2015 are false now? | 14:00 |
| locusf | ever heard of patience? | 14:01 |
| Acce | pdanek: I never heard about end of 2015, it was always Q1/2016 as far as I've read | 14:01 |
| Scelt | It is not question about when but what | 14:01 |
| pdanek | It is very much question when | 14:01 |
| pdanek | I take whatever is available | 14:01 |
| pdanek | Jolla is old, out of warranty device. | 14:02 |
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| pdanek | And patience... ever heard of Duke Nukem Forever? | 14:02 |
| locusf | no? | 14:02 |
| pdanek | :D | 14:02 |
| locusf | err not ol | 14:02 |
| locusf | d | 14:02 |
| locusf | and not out of EU warranty either | 14:03 |
| locusf | hmm | 14:03 |
| locusf | in a week yes | 14:03 |
| locusf | but not yet | 14:03 |
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| pdanek | yep | 14:03 |
| chem|st | locusf: the first ones, I got mine dec, 16th or something | 14:04 |
| locusf | chem|st: yeah, mine is #12 | 14:04 |
| locusf | of first ones | 14:04 |
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| iekku | community collaboration meeting starting in 15 minutes at #mer-meeting | 14:15 |
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| Morpog | meeting started! | 14:34 |
| coderus | woohoo! | 14:34 |
| ggabriel | good luck; and one more thing: we're counting on you | 14:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 14:35 |
| Morpog | :D | 14:35 |
| caitlinb | i’m lurking the hell out of it, i feel like i snuck into something where people know what’s going on | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | caitlinb: don't worry :) | 14:35 |
| ggabriel | i always read the minutes fwiw | 14:35 |
| ggabriel | sadly, i'm working | 14:35 |
| caitlinb | some of us are women tortoise human…. :? | 14:36 |
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| TheBootroo|work | is there someone here who is in charge of the web shop ? | 15:33 |
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| stephg | https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jollahttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jolla[Bhttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jollahttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jollahttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jollahttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jollahttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jollahttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jollahttps://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd= | 15:43 |
| stephg | https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jolla | 15:43 |
| Tegu | boom | 15:43 |
| stephg | https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#safe=off&q=jolla | 15:43 |
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| stephg | so one thing about these new dells, is there's a kernel bug with the i2c keyboard | 15:44 |
| stephg | it repeats | 15:44 |
| stephg | sorry about that everyone *oops* | 15:44 |
| ggabriel | google wants to be my homepage lol | 15:46 |
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| ggabriel | Stskeeps: random comment: you are the king of abridged versions of anything | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | ggabriel: huh? | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | just read the minutes and part of the full log, based on that (and other instances), just noting how good you are at transmitting information in very short sentences | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | (mer meeting related) | 15:57 |
| lainwir3d | he must be really good at using twitter | 15:57 |
| Stskeeps | ah.. you should be seeing my internal emails, like novels.. | 15:58 |
| ggabriel | having 2 modes is even a greater skill | 15:58 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | just a question | 16:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if Jolla people could answer | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | mm? | 16:41 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Jolla have issues with shipping tablet, will this happen for phones too ? If we buy phones to support them ? | 16:41 |
| ggabriel | SfietKonstantinW: I bought a phone last week and it's being delivered fwiw | 16:41 |
| * ggabriel not a jolla employee | 16:41 | |
| Stskeeps | SfietKonstantinW: i -think- and don't take me on my word, that phones are flowing | 16:41 |
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| Stskeeps | SfietKonstantinW: ask @JollaHQ for confirmation | 16:42 |
| pp_ | pay with credit card and avoid paypal :-) | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | never use paypal, yeah | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | bunch of thieves | 16:42 |
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| coderus | why? i like paypal | 16:42 |
| coderus | i can withdraw to my bank account with 0% fee | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | paypal is one of those evil siren servers | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | well, they stole money from me once, that's enough | 16:43 |
| Stskeeps | read this one at some point: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Who_Owns_the_Future%3F | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | sadly, useful in some cases | 16:43 |
| coderus | never stolen my moneys :D | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | i hope nobody else has the same experience that I had, sure | 16:44 |
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| coderus | qiwi is much better, but noot worldwide, sadly | 16:44 |
| MoritzJT | Well a deep structural change to the web? Maybe it'll come once we're all presssured into either total surveillance or enough skills to go off the grid | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | MoritzJT: or somebody with a clue gets really pissed off :) | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | mr robot? | 16:46 |
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| MoritzJT | Mrs Robot... she's the evil one! | 16:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Stskeeps: /join #sailfishos ? | 16:56 |
| Stskeeps | SfietKonstantinW: i'm enjoying a good evening :P | 16:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :D | 16:57 |
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| HtheB | anybody alive? | 17:08 |
| tadzik | hopefully | 17:09 |
| HtheB | :( | 17:09 |
| HtheB | So.... what wil happen next? | 17:09 |
| Stskeeps | (rip) | 17:09 |
| tadzik | I hope I'll be alive a while longer | 17:10 |
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| coderus | HtheB: missed meeting? | 17:11 |
| HtheB | coderus: tmo meeting? | 17:13 |
| HtheB | (council meeting? or something else?) | 17:14 |
| MoritzJT | mer meeting... | 17:14 |
| HtheB | didn't even knew there was a meeting, can anyone enlighten me? | 17:14 |
| eugenio | http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2015/mer-meeting.2015-11-19-14.30.html | 17:15 |
| HtheB | thanks eugenio | 17:16 |
| eugenio | :) | 17:16 |
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| cybette | SfietKonstantinW: phones are shipping, orders will be processed in 5-10 days (for now) | 17:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | cybette: nice | 17:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | thanks for the info | 17:30 |
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| cybette | SfietKonstantinW: anytime, as long as i'm still around :) | 17:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | hope you will be around for a long time | 17:32 |
| cybette | me too | 17:32 |
| HtheB | any info about the tablets? ^^ | 17:32 |
| HtheB | sorry if it was asked already | 17:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | HtheB: presumably this will be addressed in the upcoming blog post | 17:39 |
| HtheB | yeah probably | 17:40 |
| HtheB | will wait for tomorrow :) | 17:40 |
| r0kk3rz | although they should have already been paid for, or money allocated to pay for, given where they are in the delivery | 17:40 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 17:55 |
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| AL13N | Hartzi: coderus: you should read it more carefully, there are no other repositories, and i doubt coderus' app would be responsible for this... i have never used any other repositories, so... what gives? | 18:15 |
| AL13N | if anyone else has thoughts, plz help me upgrade to 2.0: https://together.jolla.com/question/120017/cant-update-to-20010-fatal-error-authentication-failed-is-ssu-set-up-correctly/ | 18:16 |
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| AL13N | the problem is likely in the double repository, so, i wish to have this cleaned up in some way, if anyone has information on how pkcon/ssu works or has config files, plz help me | 18:16 |
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| coderus | ssu rr all user repos | 18:30 |
| coderus | remove jolla account | 18:30 |
| coderus | reboot | 18:30 |
| coderus | check ssu lr again | 18:30 |
| coderus | add jolla account | 18:30 |
| coderus | should work :) | 18:30 |
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| AL13N | coderus: worth a try? | 19:45 |
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| coderus | AL13N: just write here when you will do it, and hope we can help during process. dont want to just guess :) | 22:19 |
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