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| PaulePanter | Is it expected to have errors in the output of `dmesg`? | 07:22 |
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| PaulePanter | [ 1212.680451] mdp4_dsi_cmd_off: Error, SET_CLK_OFF by force | 07:22 |
| PaulePanter | [ 1212.680512] mdp4_mixer_blend_setup: Error: no bg_pipe at mixer=0 | 07:22 |
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| tbr | [nemo@Jolla ~]$ dmesg|grep -i error|wc -l | 07:33 |
| tbr | 19 | 07:33 |
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| Bysmyyr | hmm, my IIMKilleri got crazy, killing everything all the time | 07:49 |
| Bysmyyr | OOM* | 07:49 |
| tiwake | alright, time to do some research | 07:49 |
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| Bysmyyr | the phone is also jamming time to time | 07:51 |
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| TemeV | Bysmyyr: restarting homescreen helps for me when OOM killer starts it's killing spree | 07:54 |
| Bysmyyr | I have restarted my phone already :P | 07:54 |
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| TemeV | oh, then there is something wrong | 07:55 |
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| Bysmyyr | now doing backup, but it is not killed anything in past 10 minutes... lets see whats happens... | 07:55 |
| tbr | oh, stskeeps left jolla. well, the show is over, was nice jolla. | 07:56 |
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| yestoall | oh no | 08:00 |
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| yestoall | just saw his tweet... thats hell of a bad news | 08:03 |
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| pp__ | well, got the t-shirt | 08:07 |
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| pp__ | and the phone | 08:07 |
| pp__ | and maybe the tablet | 08:07 |
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| sakustar | link twiit? | 08:09 |
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| Nicd- | what | 08:13 |
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| tiwake | will sailfishOS work on the nexus 5x? | 08:14 |
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| tbr | tiwake: if you port it | 08:15 |
| Stskeepz | oi, don't take me doing anything as anything besides me pursuing careless things :P | 08:15 |
| tiwake | tbr: what does that involve? | 08:15 |
| tiwake | (lol) | 08:15 |
| Stskeepz | will probably be doing some work with jolla, but i also have other ideas than conquering the world with mobile phones ;) | 08:15 |
| tbr | tiwake: getting a 32bit android build working for starters, as there is no 64bit sailfishos on ARM | 08:16 |
| ln- | such as conquering the world with tablets | 08:16 |
| Stskeepz | or tablets | 08:16 |
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| tiwake | ah, its a 64bit processor | 08:19 |
| tiwake | interesting | 08:19 |
| tbr | not just that, it's also a 64bit build | 08:19 |
| tiwake | and there isnt a 64bit ARM build of SailfishOS? | 08:19 |
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| tbr | there are quite a few phones using the snapdragon 410, but shipping 32bit userspace | 08:20 |
| tiwake | why would that matter? | 08:20 |
| sharpneli | Performance reasons. 64bit arm exposes bunch of more registers as an example. And they are not as heavily OoO cores like X86's are. | 08:20 |
| tbr | because in case of those it's much easier to put together an AOSP or CM 32bit build, which is a prerequisite for a libhybris environment | 08:20 |
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| tiwake | I mean, I would think "putting sailfishOS on it" would erase anything that has anything to do with android on it | 08:21 |
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| sharpneli | Wat Stskeeps left Jolla? | 08:22 |
| sharpneli | Ok show's over. | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | sharpneli: becoming an entrepreneur | 08:22 |
| Stskeeps | sharpneli: will still support sailfishos with effort/contract work, but trying my own directions | 08:23 |
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| tiwake | Stskeeps: it does keep things more interesting, going and doing your own thing | 08:23 |
| yestoall | guys, dies anyone know a solution to the sdk installation issue (lockup) when installing on a ubuntumac w/ closed source broadcom wlan driver? | 08:24 |
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| Bysmyyr | hmm, memorykiller killed my backup creation | 08:44 |
| Scelt | Stskeeps: good luck! | 08:45 |
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| sharpneli | Stskeeps: Good luck for your future. Still it's just sad from viewpoint of Jolla. | 08:49 |
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| pp__ | heh, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nowsecure.android.vts finds stuff in alien dalvik | 09:32 |
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| Nicd- | what kind of stuff? | 09:35 |
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| pp__ | "zipbug 9950697", cve-2015-1528, 2015-1538-2 etc. | 09:38 |
| pp__ | (not that the impact should be that big, it's not like the thing parses incoming mms's using android code) | 09:39 |
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| coderus | who cares about android exploits in aliendalvik | 09:45 |
| coderus | if it running in jail | 09:45 |
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| Stskeeps | file stuff like that to security@? | 09:53 |
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| Nicd- | it would be nice if security@jolla.com replied to reporters, even if to just say WONTFIX :P | 09:54 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: \o/ | 10:07 |
| coderus | new opportunities? | 10:07 |
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| coderus | riding your own bike over the world? :) | 10:08 |
| coderus | tired to sail that boat? :D | 10:08 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | coderus: bike boat :) | 10:11 |
| PaulePanter | Hi. What SSH key types does Sailfish OS support? `ssh-keygen --help` is not available. | 10:14 |
| PaulePanter | Is ed25519 supported? | 10:14 |
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| PaulePanter | How can I format the timestamps in the output of `dmesg` to the actual UTC time? | 10:17 |
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| cehteh | PaulePanter: date -d @timestamp | 10:36 |
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| Nicd- | PaulePanter: ed25519 is not supported. I would use RSA | 10:45 |
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| PaulePanter | cehteh: Ah, thank you. | 10:45 |
| PaulePanter | Nicd-: Understood. Then it’s the long key. ;-) | 10:45 |
| Nicd- | 2048 should be enough | 10:45 |
| coderus | PaulePanter: sshd -T ? | 10:46 |
| coderus | sshd -T | grep "\(ciphers\|macs\|kex\)" | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: TBA | 10:50 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: sure :) | 10:50 |
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| ggabriel | woop woop, no more slush15 promotion in shop.jolla.com | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | but price went down nonetheless | 11:23 |
| stephg | ggabriel: what are they now? | 11:23 |
| mornfall | hm, shop.jolla.com, that still exists? :P | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | 199eur | 11:24 |
| * ggabriel wonders whether to buy a 3rd one just in case my tohkbd survives my 2nd one :P | 11:24 | |
| mornfall | hm, they still say tablet pre-orders will ship in december | 11:25 |
| giucam | are you collecting jollas? :P | 11:25 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | :( | 11:25 |
| ggabriel | giucam: broke screen on my 1st one and it will die eventually | 11:25 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I wanted to slush promo | 11:25 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | guess I missed it ... | 11:25 |
| ggabriel | mornfall: source? | 11:25 |
| mornfall | ggabriel: shop.jolla.com | 11:25 |
| mornfall | probably outdated | 11:25 |
| ggabriel | oh, preorders | 11:25 |
| ggabriel | sorry, didn't read properly | 11:26 |
| ggabriel | i don't know what's going on wrt tablet aside from delays | 11:26 |
| mornfall | more delays | 11:26 |
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| PaulePanter | coderus: Thank you. http://paste.debian.net/333286/ doesn’t contain that information though. | 11:49 |
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| coderus | PaulePanter: https://gist.github.com/CODeRUS/b38c6b9b3f365d04641f | 11:58 |
| coderus | what release you running? | 11:59 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | giucam, i've seen that | 12:01 |
| dr_gogeta86 | https://git.merproject.org/giucam/lipstick/commit/a0440ea56b90acf905fb167bc548c91afa2f6224 | 12:01 |
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| Sailbig | Hello, do the new price €199.00 still? | 12:02 |
| Ingvix | so it says | 12:03 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: looks like some refactor | 12:04 |
| entil | plz buy them so jolla can afford to send out the next batch of tablets | 12:05 |
| entil | :P | 12:05 |
| coderus | dr_gogeta86: ah no, it just preparation for this one: https://git.merproject.org/giucam/lipstick/commit/30f59c0171150b8f1e0f9bd92ae0dac629adb2ec | 12:05 |
| ggabriel | Sailbig: used to be 169 eur last week, now it went to normal price 199 eur, which used to be 269 eur before the slush promotion | 12:05 |
| giucam | coderus: no, that one was abandoned | 12:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | giucam, like the rest ? | 12:07 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I hope no | 12:07 |
| giucam | dr_gogeta86: no, a0440ea56b90acf905fb167bc548c91afa2f6224 is waiting for approval | 12:08 |
| giucam | there's a PR open for it | 12:08 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i've seen videocapture in wayland is done via DRI but in a hybris environment ? | 12:09 |
| giucam | uh? | 12:09 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | giucam, http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2013-August/010708.html | 12:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | from this http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTQ0Mzc | 12:11 |
| giucam | dr_gogeta86: that's a weston patch | 12:11 |
| giucam | it's one way of doing recording | 12:11 |
| giucam | but we don't have libva | 12:11 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | we have gst-omx | 12:17 |
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| Sailbig | ok thx guys | 12:44 |
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| trigpoint | anyone know why the browser is lowercasing urls? | 13:24 |
| ggabriel | you mean like firefox for desktop? | 13:25 |
| ggabriel | aren't url's case insensitive anyway? | 13:25 |
| ggabriel | shouldn't be, even... or at least the host name bit | 13:25 |
| Tomo | urls should be considered case-sensitive in all applications | 13:26 |
| trigpoint | the jolla browser, have a fliker url | 13:26 |
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| ggabriel | i'll rephrase: the URI is case sensitive, the rest goes by dns rules, so case insensitive | 13:27 |
| Tomo | since if you are serving static content via HTTP from a UNIX-based system, the file structure hence the URLs are case-sensitive | 13:27 |
| trigpoint | https://flic.kr/p/AbQkoQ | 13:27 |
| ggabriel | trigpoint: I don't know what you mean by fliker | 13:27 |
| trigpoint | worked when copied from here | 13:28 |
| ggabriel | trigpoint: I've just typed that and it worke dok | 13:29 |
| Tomo | ggabriel: but if you lowercase that it does not work | 13:29 |
| Tomo | since the hash is case-sensitive | 13:29 |
| ggabriel | Tomo: yes, that's why I rephrased. URI=sensitive | 13:29 |
| Tomo | yeah :) | 13:29 |
| ggabriel | I actually remembered that I work with applications that are sensitive in the uri too (needlessly, but hey) | 13:30 |
| ggabriel | good point re unix file systems though, for static content | 13:30 |
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| Cazou | Hey, I'm not sure what 'console=' argument I should give the kernel to log its boot process on the screen | 14:34 |
| Cazou | I remember seeing that somewhere | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | .. what device? | 14:35 |
| Cazou | Jolla phone | 14:35 |
| Stskeeps | doubt framebuffer works, sorry | 14:37 |
| Cazou | Stskeeps: ho :( Could it ever work ? Or is it a SoC problem ? | 14:40 |
| Stskeeps | soc problem/kernel | 14:40 |
| Cazou | ok, anyway to get it by other means ? serial on the usb port ? network on the usb port ? | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | no | 14:42 |
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| Ingvix | can you get to lockscreen without putting the screen off? | 14:55 |
| ggabriel | Ingvix: in 1.1.9/2.0? no | 15:01 |
| ggabriel | (from a user perspective at least, maybe it's possible in a hacky way) | 15:01 |
| Ingvix | ok | 15:01 |
| Ingvix | kinda funny | 15:01 |
| ggabriel | well, it's different, yes | 15:02 |
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| Nokius_work | oh, the internet found Stskeeps tweet from the morning | 15:12 |
| Nokius_work | :D | 15:12 |
| ggabriel | link? | 15:12 |
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| Nicd- | ggabriel: https://twitter.com/stskeeps/status/666470498889564160 | 15:16 |
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| ggabriel | ta | 15:17 |
| Nicd- | maybe this is the more relevant tweet: https://twitter.com/stskeeps/status/666464364376031232 | 15:17 |
| ggabriel | oh, NOW that I log in twitter I see that pic of me celebrating something in london hackspace, happy days | 15:18 |
| Nokius_work | ggabriel: the usually accounts are now active ;) | 15:19 |
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| PaulePanter | coderus: I am running VERSION="2.0.0.10 (Saimaa) (armv7hl)". | 17:22 |
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| PaulePanter | coderus: I got the phone over a year ago. | 17:22 |
| PaulePanter | Can `[ 9439.775002] mdp4_mixer_blend_setup: Error: no bg_pipe at mixer=0` be related to the non-working inputs with the touchscreen? | 17:24 |
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| Stskeeps | not related | 17:24 |
| PaulePanter | Stskeeps: Is that a known problem by now? I have to restart my phone when the I am unable to enter the anything or swipe. | 17:25 |
| Stskeeps | PaulePanter: it sounds like something related to your proximity sensor | 17:25 |
| PaulePanter | Stskeeps: My recent tests with the USB cable show though that unplugging and replugging the cable several times times seems to help too. | 17:25 |
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| PaulePanter | Stskeeps: Hmm. How do I check if it’s enabled? | 17:26 |
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| Stskeeps | PaulePanter: you can possibly enable mce debugging | 17:27 |
| PaulePanter | Stskeeps: Ok, I’ll try to find out how to do it. | 17:28 |
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| PaulePanter | /usr/sbin/mce --systemd is shown in `ps aux` output. | 17:29 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 17:29 |
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| spiiroin | PaulePanter: do "mcetool --set-input-policy-mode=disabled" -> then mce never blocks touch input from reaching ui -> if it still does not work, then the problem is at ui side, wrong window has input focus or something | 17:34 |
| spiiroin | PaulePanter: and flip it back to normal "mcetool --set-input-policy-mode=enabled" when done with debugging | 17:36 |
| PaulePanter | spiiroin: Thank you! | 17:38 |
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| PaulePanter | I’ll try that and report back. | 17:38 |
| PaulePanter | # LANG=C pkcon install mce-tools | 17:41 |
| PaulePanter | Command failed: This tool could not find any available package: could not find mce-tools | 17:41 |
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| cehteh | on the n900 i hacked something on the dbus stuff to lock the screen when some app (from a list of apps) was started, so one could secure any critical app. is there such an thing for the jolla already? | 17:54 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | http://reviewjolla.blogspot.fr/2015/10/news-sailfish-india-launch-set-to-2016.html = Cool :) | 18:18 |
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| Nokius | SfietKonstantinW: indeed :D | 21:03 |
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| Nokius | SfietKonstantinW: did u saw this --> http://www.digitoday.fi/data/2015/11/12/jollalta-kaksi-uutista--vilauttaa-videolla-julkaisematonta-sailfish-puhelinta/201514931/66 :D | 21:27 |
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| HarhaanJohtaja | http://i.imgur.com/hPsyYyG.gif | 21:32 |
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| Ingvix | "look at this this, oh wait I wasn't suppose to show this yet" | 21:37 |
| Ingvix | this and that | 21:37 |
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| Aciid | jollalta kaksi uutta anteeksipyyntöä | 22:24 |
| Aciid | vilauttaa viestintäpäällikkö salavideolla | 22:24 |
| Aciid | katso kuvat! | 22:24 |
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| M4rtinK | so many umlauts :) | 22:26 |
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| Ezko | M4rtinK: not umlauts! | 23:26 |
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