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| lainwir3d | o/ | 08:46 |
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| Tofe | what time is it in Germany? My Jolla says it's 10:46... | 08:47 |
| lainwir3d | hmmm | 08:48 |
| lainwir3d | that could match | 08:48 |
| lainwir3d | 9h48 in paris | 08:48 |
| lainwir3d | gmt+1, is Germany gmt+2 ? | 08:48 |
| phlixi | [2015-11-12 09:47:03] <Tofe> what time is it in Germany? My Jolla says it's 10:46... | 08:48 |
| phlixi | paris, as well as berlin is CET | 08:49 |
| Tofe | lainwir3d: no, it's supposed to be same timezone | 08:49 |
| lainwir3d | well, then that's bad :P | 08:49 |
| phlixi | also amsterdam | 08:49 |
| lainwir3d | do they have a summer adjustement ? | 08:49 |
| lainwir3d | summer / winter. | 08:49 |
| phlixi | its only the brits, that do weird stuff.... | 08:49 |
| lainwir3d | haha | 08:50 |
| phlixi | thats called CEST and is also the same for middle europe, | 08:50 |
| lainwir3d | ooooh, blog post : https://blog.jolla.com/tablet_schedule_aptoide_store/ | 08:50 |
| tbr | ah, this one has great potential: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/11/12/mobile_pwn2own1/ | 08:50 |
| lainwir3d | I guess I'm a bit late | 08:50 |
| tbr | nothing new really | 08:50 |
| tbr | just confirmation of what many of us in the industry knew | 08:50 |
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| kimmoli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRq5HV8hi-o | 08:52 |
| phlixi | well, if you own a bts... then it doesnt matter if it is samsung or ANYTHING else.. | 08:54 |
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| Tegu | yea, a bit weird that they underlined they specific models | 08:55 |
| phlixi | indeed | 08:55 |
| Tegu | it's just that they happened to test with them | 08:55 |
| SQUelcher | phlixi: if you pay a few bucks to buy a SDR, you've got a bts.. | 08:55 |
| phlixi | yep | 08:56 |
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| phlixi | listening to just e few ccc congress talks i wonder why there is not much more chaos | 08:56 |
| jonwil | It wouldn't surprise me if someone came up with a way to combine something like OpenBTS, a cheap SDR and some other stuff to make a copy of the "stingray" fake cell towers the US law enforcement mobs are using | 08:56 |
| phlixi | seems to be pretty easy to badly f*ck up areas infra | 08:57 |
| phlixi | all the gsm m2m.. | 08:57 |
| tbr | you can pair openbts with a SIP trunk and are essentially done | 08:57 |
| phlixi | wonder why "all the terrorists" do not do such easy hacks | 08:57 |
| tbr | trunks with full SS7 exist and then you can use any originating number you want | 08:57 |
| jonwil | Terrorists are all about causing terror and making people afraid | 08:57 |
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| tbr | the stuff has been around for quite a while | 08:58 |
| phlixi | jonwil: you can be sure that will case a lot of truble if you shut down the gsm in a big city | 08:58 |
| phlixi | including all kinds of acccidents due to missing infra | 08:58 |
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| Tegu | they will hunt the transmitter for sure | 08:59 |
| phlixi | that can be a 20eur phone in the ring bahn | 08:59 |
| phlixi | crashing one bts minute by minute | 08:59 |
| phlixi | and with crashed base stations, there is not much left to track | 09:00 |
| phlixi | they take a while to boot :-) | 09:00 |
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| PaulePanter | MMS are still not being loaded in Sailfish OS 2.0.0.10 with O2 in Germany. | 09:01 |
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| jonwil | I am surprised we haven't seen some rogue group carry out a real world version of the mass hack attack from that one Die Hard movie | 09:03 |
| phlixi | isnt that pretty much the same? | 09:04 |
| Tegu | would that be the target on its own or just a way to enable something else? | 09:05 |
| Tegu | what would they use it for? | 09:05 |
| lainwir3d | wow, big angry comments in the blog post :-( | 09:06 |
| Tegu | yea, just skip them | 09:06 |
| lainwir3d | haha | 09:07 |
| phlixi | lainwir3d do you expect something else after jolla is lying for half a year now? | 09:07 |
| lainwir3d | well, I got my tablet and I'm pretty much egoïstic so... :-) | 09:08 |
| phlixi | PaulePanter: did you noticed this? https://together.jolla.com/question/38555/mms-issues-hints-for-debugging-and-helping-us-to-improve/?answer=38866#post-id-38866 | 09:09 |
| PaulePanter | phlixi: No, thank you for the URL. | 09:09 |
| phlixi | its a year old, not sure if still applicable | 09:10 |
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| PaulePanter | phlixi: Worked. Thank you! | 09:25 |
| phlixi | :) | 09:25 |
| PaulePanter | Who to contact, that this works by default? | 09:25 |
| phlixi | well | 09:26 |
| phlixi | i linked an answer | 09:26 |
| phlixi | in the question that was answered, jolla is asking for data/expirience, in order to implement stuff to have it working out of the box | 09:26 |
| phlixi | since nothing happened, i guess there is no one you can contact and it will not be fixed | 09:27 |
| pp_ | hmn, slush presentation in 10 mins :P Someone feel like live-commentary, can't watch due to meeting | 09:28 |
| chem|st | PaulePanter: answer that question with your experience | 09:29 |
| chem|st | 'settings' | 09:29 |
| lainwir3d | pp_: do you have a live streaming url please ? :) | 09:29 |
| PaulePanter | chem|st: Sorry, I did not get your answer. | 09:30 |
| PaulePanter | phlixi: Understood. | 09:30 |
| pp_ | slush.org watch live stream? | 09:30 |
| lainwir3d | yeah | 09:30 |
| lainwir3d | ok | 09:30 |
| lainwir3d | that was easy | 09:30 |
| lainwir3d | :P | 09:30 |
| chem|st | PaulePanter: you had non-working settings for MMS and now have settings that work? | 09:30 |
| phlixi | i would be interested in a live stream too, someone has a link for (lazy) me? | 09:31 |
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| lainwir3d | phlixi: http://www.slush.org/live/ | 09:31 |
| lainwir3d | well, there is different stages | 09:31 |
| lainwir3d | I don't know which one Jolla is supposed to be in | 09:31 |
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| lainwir3d | silver apparently | 09:32 |
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| pa | i agree that with 2.0 the interface improved | 09:34 |
| pa | still dont like the apps from the bottom, but i guess the 3 main screens are copyrighted or something | 09:34 |
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| phlixi | let me guess pa, you used an n9 and miss it? :D | 09:34 |
| * phlixi too | 09:34 | |
| pa | oh i dont miss it, i still use it | 09:34 |
| pa | i am just trying a jolla phone a friend gave me yesterday | 09:35 |
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| pa | long life to the N9 :) | 09:35 |
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| phlixi | i actually use the n9 too | 09:37 |
| phlixi | as clock at the bed :D | 09:37 |
| lainwir3d | Killed mine (well, the screen) | 09:37 |
| lainwir3d | But I don't miss it that bad, I prefer the Jolla | 09:37 |
| lainwir3d | The one I miss is my N900 | 09:37 |
| phlixi | lainwir3d: want to buy one? blue 16gb? black 64gb? | 09:37 |
| lainwir3d | still unbeatable | 09:37 |
| lainwir3d | haha, as a clock ? :D nice | 09:38 |
| phlixi | i also sell a n900 :D | 09:38 |
| Tegu | "last year they launched the jolla tablet, what is next?" | 09:38 |
| lainwir3d | shipping it | 09:38 |
| lainwir3d | lol | 09:38 |
| Tegu | :D | 09:38 |
| lainwir3d | phlixi: haha, in "normal" times I might have, but I have to save for my marriage (so limited budget right now :P) | 09:39 |
| phlixi | wow, my stream is one minute behind tegus chat | 09:39 |
| Tegu | :o | 09:39 |
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| pp_ | :D | 09:39 |
| Tegu | jolla greets u | 09:39 |
| pp_ | if they are doing a sailfish watch, I'm cancelling my tablet | 09:39 |
| lainwir3d | wow, difficult accent | 09:39 |
| lainwir3d | pp_: haha :D | 09:39 |
| Tegu | finnish accent <3 | 09:39 |
| Tegu | compete with google | 09:40 |
| lainwir3d | I find it pretty similar to India's accent | 09:40 |
| Tegu | (not with apple?) | 09:40 |
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| lainwir3d | lol | 09:49 |
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| lainwir3d | "it will be late but I guarantee you'll get it" | 09:49 |
| tbr | liar liar pants on fire | 09:50 |
| tbr | especially his statement before that sentence "we're shipping" | 09:50 |
| phlixi | well, at least he did not say "in 4 weeks" | 09:51 |
| phlixi | i actually buy it that they will eventually ship | 09:51 |
| lainwir3d | I hope they'll announce sailfish shoes to concurrence Nike "back to the future" shoes | 09:52 |
| lainwir3d | http://jolla-adventures.com/ | 09:53 |
| tbr | so jolla now has an accelerator because they are so successful in asia? | 09:54 |
| Tegu | asian and chinese markets (implying china is not part of asia?9 | 09:55 |
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| tbr | my takeaway: surprisingly honest about their past failures, but again very vague about the present and their future outlook is even more unclear as they seem to shift away from software towards investment brokerage | 09:57 |
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| tbr | oh and can anyone comment: was the audience reception as ice cold as it sounded on the stream? | 09:58 |
| ljp | jolla-adventures != jolla | 09:58 |
| tbr | ljp: somehow he seems to have failed to convey that separation sufficiently then | 09:58 |
| Nicd- | how is jolla-adventures not jolla? | 09:59 |
| Nicd- | on paper? | 09:59 |
| lainwir3d | well else it would have been called "adventures of jolla" | 09:59 |
| lainwir3d | D-: | 09:59 |
| tbr | and why is it called jolla-adventures if it's not jolla? | 09:59 |
| ggabriel | i thought it was going to be a comic website :( | 09:59 |
| ljp | jolla-adventures does not produce sailfishos | 10:00 |
| lainwir3d | ggabriel: haha :D | 10:00 |
| tbr | so does that mean they are splitting their company in 3 instead of 2 legal parts? | 10:00 |
| ljp | just like pizza hut != taco bell | 10:01 |
| lainwir3d | Jolla pizza would be nice | 10:01 |
| ljp | I'd think it's taste fishy | 10:02 |
| lainwir3d | I could propose that idea to jolla-adventures | 10:02 |
| FireFly | Huh, are pizza hut and taco bell related? | 10:02 |
| tbr | well Yum! owns both PH and TB | 10:02 |
| tbr | and controlls them | 10:02 |
| FireFly | Ah | 10:02 |
| tbr | KFC also | 10:03 |
| FireFly | I've never seen a KFC, and only one taco bell :P | 10:04 |
| FireFly | although pizza hut is all over the place | 10:04 |
| Nicd- | jolla 1 price has dropped to 169 € apparently | 10:08 |
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| fennekki | why do people keep talking about the jolla phone as if there's gonna be another one, anyway | 10:10 |
| fennekki | haven't they literally announced there is no intention to produce another phone | 10:10 |
| ln- | it's called fan fiction | 10:10 |
| fennekki | heh | 10:10 |
| Nicd- | fennekki: personally I don't think there will be another one. but typed that way anyway :P | 10:10 |
| Nicd- | maybe I should have said JP-1301 | 10:11 |
| fennekki | very specific | 10:11 |
| ljp | fennekki: they have not announced there is no intention to not produce another device | 10:11 |
| fennekki | ljp: well! I must've remembered wrong then | 10:11 |
| fennekki | I thought they had | 10:11 |
| fennekki | well | 10:11 |
| ljp | just that they wanted to split software from devices | 10:11 |
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| ljp | you did see the intex announcement? | 10:13 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/660133231245791232 | 10:13 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | we have a device roadmap, but nothing to announce at the moment. However, please stay tuned! | 10:14 |
| phlixi | [2015-11-12 11:01:48] <lainwir3d> Jolla pizza would be nice <<- Pizza with half a year delay? :D | 10:16 |
| phlixi | fennekki: intex? | 10:16 |
| lainwir3d | phlixi: haha :-D "order now receive it one year from now" | 10:16 |
| phlixi | and actually get it in 1.5 years | 10:17 |
| lainwir3d | :D | 10:17 |
| phlixi | get it SOON(R) | 10:17 |
| TemeV | I'd buy it. Would get a nice pizza as a suprise next year :) | 10:18 |
| Nicd- | here you go phlixi: ® | 10:18 |
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| phlixi | thanks Nicd- ;) | 10:18 |
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| phlixi | btw, there is actually a product: http://soonr.com/ | 10:19 |
| phlixi | ...was... | 10:19 |
| rubdos | "@Kbulann0laK we have a device roadmap, but nothing to announce at the moment. However, please stay tuned!", HarhaanJohtaja, what would that mean? :O | 10:20 |
| FireFly | phlixi: (soon®)™? :P | 10:20 |
| FireFly | rubdos: probably means we'll know within an hour :P | 10:21 |
| rubdos | that tweet is from 30 october... What makes you think we'll know within an hour? :o | 10:21 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | who knows | 10:21 |
| FireFly | oh, hm | 10:22 |
| rubdos | I'd love a new Jolla phone :) | 10:22 |
| FireFly | maybe not :p | 10:22 |
| Nicd- | rubdos: an hour? | 10:22 |
| rubdos | <FireFly> rubdos: probably means we'll know within an hour :P | 10:23 |
| Nicd- | sorry, meant to highlight FireFly | 10:23 |
| rubdos | oh okay :) | 10:23 |
| FireFly | I misread HarhaanJohtaja's line, didn't actually check the tweet | 10:23 |
| FireFly | my bad :p | 10:23 |
| FireFly | I guess we'll know at some point though | 10:23 |
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| kimmoli | current phone 169€ slush special | 10:32 |
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| pa | after the last update the phone went off and the red light is fixed on | 10:35 |
| pa | something got screwed? | 10:35 |
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| Nicd- | how long? | 10:37 |
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| pa | an hour maybe | 10:37 |
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| phlixi | not sure if it is a good idea, but i would probably take out the battery | 10:39 |
| pa | should i remove the battery or will that screw everything? | 10:39 |
| pa | ok | 10:40 |
| pa | well i try | 10:40 |
| phlixi | but | 10:40 |
| phlixi | if it is an update, i would probably be super super sure i wated long enough | 10:40 |
| pa | hm | 10:40 |
| pa | ok i give one more hour | 10:40 |
| phlixi | can you login via ssh? | 10:41 |
| pa | donno, but dont think so | 10:41 |
| pa | the screen is off | 10:41 |
| pa | the phone wont turn on by power button | 10:41 |
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| phlixi | i had it super often that the n900 was unresponsive, then log in via ssh, kill the process creating thumbnails of movies and eveything was fine a few seconds later | 10:42 |
| pa | well i think in this case the phone was trying to reboot or something | 10:42 |
| pa | so it is really off | 10:42 |
| phlixi | but the led? | 10:43 |
| pa | as far as i understand red steady is when phone powers off | 10:43 |
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| pa | i mean i didnt install anything | 10:43 |
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| pa | i was just upgrading all the way to the latest | 10:44 |
| pa | i think this one was the latest (2.0( | 10:44 |
| phlixi | someone else should say something :D | 10:44 |
| Nicd- | oh I remember the N900 <3 I wrote a script to reboot the home screen every night at 3 am so it would stay responsive | 10:45 |
| Nicd- | otherwise it would grind to a halt after a few days | 10:45 |
| phlixi | the only thing that made it unresponsive for me was that thumbnail thingy | 10:45 |
| phlixi | it always happened when i parked a dvd on the sd card | 10:46 |
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| pa | hehe | 10:50 |
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| pa | well if it doesnt reboot by the next 10 min i remove the battery | 10:51 |
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| pa | its also not warm | 10:52 |
| pa | meaning it's just stuck somewhere | 10:52 |
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| pa | well the good news is that it starts | 10:54 |
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| pa | btw is there a way to have a pitch black theme like on the N9? | 10:56 |
| pa | all these colors hurt my eyes | 10:56 |
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| HarhaanJohtaja | https://openrepos.net/content/markkyboy/ambience-allblack | 10:59 |
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| phlixi | with the new settings you probably just need a black picture and then set the color in settings as wanted | 11:00 |
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| pa | thanks! :) | 11:11 |
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| Sail0r | xmas tablet :) https://blog.jolla.com/tablet_schedule_aptoide_store/ | 12:05 |
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| Tegu | maybe | 12:05 |
| Yaniel | Maybe Tablet | 12:12 |
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| Smar | maybetlet | 12:24 |
| Yaniel | possible values are Nothing and Just Tablet | 12:25 |
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| the_mgt | and of course this time the schedule will work out. really. promised. | 12:40 |
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| pa | so no offline here maps for jolla even now that there are for android for free? | 12:49 |
| pa | any official place where to get the android apk? i see aptoid doesnt have it | 12:49 |
| ggabriel | pa: i found it elsewhere in aptoide i think | 12:52 |
| ggabriel | not the standard jolla store | 12:52 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | ggabriel becarefull | 12:53 |
| ggabriel | i know, i checked the store where i got it a little bit | 12:53 |
| ggabriel | a bit of a risk but then again a) android is pretty much off all the time; b) android has access to nothing on my phone | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | ymmv | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | it would be nice if jolla made it available | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | or even better... if here made the apk downloadable from here.com (how hard can that be...) | 12:54 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ggabriel, i think you can install it via amazon app store | 12:54 |
| pa | ggabriel, you mean the official android here maps app? | 12:54 |
| pa | or something else? | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | it is indeed in amazon | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | pa: i mean the official (allegedly) one | 12:55 |
| ggabriel | but like dr_gogeta86 says, i took a bit of a risk from within aptoide | 12:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | no no | 12:55 |
| ggabriel | if you have amazon, install from there | 12:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | go amazon and then uninstall | 12:55 |
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| pa | sorry guys, long life to N9 | 13:50 |
| Tegu | it's okay | 13:52 |
| pa | :) | 13:52 |
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| Guest38461 | so no j2 :/ | 13:58 |
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| pp_ | SOON | 14:01 |
| * pp_ runs | 14:02 | |
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| Guest38461 | soon? | 14:02 |
| pp_ | just like tablet shipping | 14:03 |
| Guest38461 | oo so soon :P | 14:03 |
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| sakustar | pa: whats this n9 without the 00s | 15:38 |
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| Lucky_luke | so we have puzzlephone with sf | 15:39 |
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| Hartzi | yeah | 16:08 |
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| Lucky_luke | but not a j2 | 16:09 |
| Lucky_luke | :-/ | 16:10 |
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| Nicd- | the puzzle phone is not a reality yet, they have only gotten $72k in funding after over a week | 16:29 |
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| Acce | IMO the initial price is too high considering the time it takes.. they should have done it similar to jolla, pay 100 now, the rest later | 16:33 |
| Acce | but maybe they don't have enough to produce without the money | 16:33 |
| ggabriel | the reality is that this type of devices made in lower numbers is expensive... look at the neo900 project | 16:34 |
| ggabriel | it's a >1000 EUR phone | 16:34 |
| ggabriel | (or something along those lines) | 16:34 |
| Acce | yeah, and that's exactly why they should support paying in parts.. | 16:34 |
| Acce | it would make participating more appealing, even if the end cost is higher | 16:35 |
| Stskeeps | ggabriel: given enough compromises you can really get price a lot further down | 16:36 |
| Lucky_luke | bullshits | 16:37 |
| Lucky_luke | we need j2 | 16:38 |
| ggabriel | Stskeeps: ofc, the neo900 comes with a keyboard and whatnot | 16:38 |
| ggabriel | woop woop the jolla at 169 eur | 16:38 |
| Lucky_luke | not intex fairphones | 16:38 |
| cehteh | yeah .. i am pissed, send mail to support to refund me some money for the phone that will arrive at monday | 16:39 |
| cehteh | i mean i could just order anew and sent it back, more trouble for them | 16:39 |
| pp_ | probably not a viable business model, but paying say 50e for a port for something that's already made in bulk like moto, galaxy s or nexus :-) | 16:39 |
| Stskeeps | cehteh: those cases will always happen at price changes, though | 16:39 |
| pp_ | (and getting android app support for the corner cases) | 16:39 |
| TMavica | What mean adventure in hong kong | 16:40 |
| cehteh | Stskeeps: sure | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | or let's say, a new device is published | 16:40 |
| cehteh | but this is massive and i am not willing to pay that much more | 16:40 |
| Stskeeps | people suddenly want money back for buying old device | 16:40 |
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| ggabriel | awesome, new phone on its way :P | 16:41 |
| cehteh | well if its within the 14days return period, they have to swallow the pill | 16:41 |
| TemeV | I hear iPhones tend to break when new is published | 16:41 |
| Stskeeps | cehteh: sure | 16:41 |
| cehteh | i hoped for a new updated jolla as well, but thats not going to happen anytime soon | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | cehteh: do the math... are you sure you'll be making enough money for the trouble? | 16:42 |
| cehteh | me? | 16:42 |
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| cehteh | trouble? | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | cehteh: or get another one and sell the battery inside it for 300 usd | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | i mean, it's 30 eur shipping | 16:42 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | + extra shipping from your home to jolla | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | (assuming 15 eur shipping, not sure where you are) | 16:43 |
| cehteh | phone got 85Eur cheaper | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | yeah | 16:43 |
| TemeV | at least in finland returning is free | 16:43 |
| cehteh | and i just found out they even cover the shipping for returns | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | ok, fair enough | 16:43 |
| cehteh | so its ok for me if i can keep the phone and they refund me 50Eur .. that would be a win-win | 16:43 |
| cehteh | if not .. i just send it back | 16:44 |
| TemeV | my guess is their erp or what ever get pissed and doesn't allow something like that :) | 16:44 |
| cehteh | little more trouble for me, some more money safed .. and much more trouble for them | 16:44 |
| ggabriel | well, for jolla it will be bau | 16:44 |
| ggabriel | for you it will be a long wait | 16:44 |
| ggabriel | but if you think it's worth it | 16:45 |
| ggabriel | like Stskeeps says, this happens across the board | 16:45 |
| cehteh | my n900 broke almost 2 years ago .. that time i had no smartphone, i could wait a little longer | 16:45 |
| Stskeeps | well, i'm on cehteh's side, he has right for a refund in general | 16:45 |
| TemeV | for 85 eur, I would go through the trouble | 16:45 |
| cehteh | if the price dropped lets say 30Eur ..ok ... | 16:45 |
| ggabriel | i'd definitely at least consider cehteh's strategy | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | but i'd save 40 eur | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | i'm not happy about people that demand things -after- return period because a new and shinier device came out, or price dropped | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | which isn't worth my time | 16:46 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:46 |
| cehteh | but this now is massive, and considering i ordered on 20th oct and waited a long time already | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | cehteh: you should order a new device now as you don't know how long the offer will last ;) | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | Stskeeps: well, if you buy the jolla on amazon, you have a lot more than 14 days ;-) | 16:47 |
| cehteh | i hope this order will at least last until i get a response from jolla OR the phone arives on monday | 16:47 |
| cehteh | so if no response until monday and the offer still stands i go for buying anew and get refund | 16:48 |
| cehteh | return the one i receive | 16:48 |
| ggabriel | now the race begins... jolla or tablet first? | 16:49 |
| cehteh | i dont need a tablet | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | me neither | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | i was just supporting jolla | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | and it'll replace my broken kindle at any rate | 16:49 |
| lainwir3d | i didn't need one | 16:49 |
| lainwir3d | but I must admit i'm very happy with it | 16:49 |
| cehteh | does the tablet have broadband meanwhile? | 16:49 |
| lainwir3d | no | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | define broadband | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | it has wifi | 16:50 |
| cehteh | mobile networks | 16:50 |
| ggabriel | no, it doesn't | 16:50 |
| cehteh | wifi doesnt count | 16:50 |
| cehteh | makes it pretty useless imo | 16:50 |
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| cehteh | mmh could just place another order *now* and tell them to cancel it when they refund me for the other phone | 17:01 |
| cehteh | chem|st: there? | 17:02 |
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| Aciid | hey guys join #JollaAdventures in #bankruptcy | 17:04 |
| Aciid | learn how to spend seedfunding in less than 2 years | 17:05 |
| rigo | cehteh: in any way as this is distance selling, you can always cancel within a week after receipt without having to justify. So I think negotiation is helping them and you | 17:05 |
| cehteh | yes :) | 17:06 |
| cehteh | and we are in the european union here .. with some harmonized customer rights | 17:06 |
| cehteh | i dont want to be hostile to jolla, its ok for me when they take my money for a phone, ji just dont want to pay 85Eur more than i need to | 17:07 |
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| cehteh | just no one knows how long the 169Eur offer will last | 17:08 |
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| Aciid | 6+9 = illuminati | 17:09 |
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| Ezko | does anyone have any ideas on what to do when my cutespot doesn't want to start anymore? | 17:14 |
| Ezko | reinstalling doesn't help | 17:14 |
| TemeV | Ezko: remove config files | 17:14 |
| Ezko | ah | 17:15 |
| Ezko | and where would they be and what's the easiest way to access them? :P | 17:18 |
| TemeV | /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-cutespot | 17:19 |
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| TemeV | if you don't like terminal, you can also use file browser from the Store and enable showing hidden files | 17:19 |
| TemeV | but also: rm -rf /home/nemo/.local/share/harbour-cutespot | 17:20 |
| TemeV | in terminal will do the trick | 17:20 |
| Ezko | thank you | 17:20 |
| TemeV | And I have no idea if that will work, but there is not much harm in trying :) | 17:20 |
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| Ezko | well at least it started! | 17:22 |
| Ezko | now the hardest part, remembering my spotify password :P | 17:22 |
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| adherry | tablet got postponed again? man, I think I will never get one | 18:39 |
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| Lieke_ | i'm sure we'll get it eventually and it'll be awesome | 18:41 |
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| adherry | my hopes got a bit dented when I saw that the jolla does is not compatible with apple music | 18:42 |
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| adherry | But I hope it is ok | 18:46 |
| adherry | I don’t expect it to be some revolutionary thing, it only needs to be hackable enough | 18:46 |
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| attah | Am I reading this correctly; Puzzlephone gets a "community" port? | 19:54 |
| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 19:58 |
| attah | To me that means no promise of updates, and definitely no Alien Dalvik | 19:59 |
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| attah | Real bummer because i really want a new sfos-phone.. but unfortunately android compatibility is a must in today's world | 20:02 |
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| urs | as long as nobody announces a hardware keyboard for puzzlephone, I don't want it! | 20:05 |
| attah | always the hwkbd :D | 20:06 |
| Stskeeps | attah: i wouldn't say no promise, it's usually easier when there's a hw party who could pay | 20:06 |
| attah | Stskeeps: yeah, i get that | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | collecting micropayments for individuals is a bit harder | 20:07 |
| tadzik | . o O ( crowdfund it? ) | 20:07 |
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| attah | i'm just writing from a rather selfish point of view | 20:07 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: the margin above taken in crowdfunding costs may be more than what people would want to pay.. | 20:08 |
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| attah | i saw this one thing on TJC about monthly/whatever subscription to updates | 20:08 |
| tadzik | Ah | 20:09 |
| Stskeeps | now, ethereum style trustless crowdfunding... :P | 20:09 |
| attah | that sounded like a pretty neat way to get around the issue | 20:09 |
| attah | isn't one issue that cashflow tends to lessen if you make too good devices.. this seems to solve that | 20:11 |
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| adherry | you could use patreon to finance people developing that….oh wait, their db was stolen | 20:26 |
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| sigmounte_ | Hi ! | 20:44 |
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| sigmounte_ | I have some problem with my Jolla , just after the last update , it does the white jolla logo , then black screen and white led for hours | 20:47 |
| sigmounte_ | i've tried a lot of way to repair it | 20:47 |
| adherry | did you try repair console? | 20:47 |
| sigmounte_ | yes | 20:47 |
| sigmounte_ | 10.42.66.66 etc etc | 20:47 |
| adherry | were you connected and did you reset the device to factory there? | 20:48 |
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| sigmounte_ | i need the image made with dd | 20:48 |
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| sigmounte_ | i did the backup to my sdcard and tried factory reset , but it fail at "umount /mnt/ " | 20:48 |
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| sigmounte_ | Look like there is a link to the file on IRC ? | 20:51 |
| adherry | hmm, think you should better use the support before we tell you anything bad and you make a hard out of your soft brick | 20:54 |
| adherry | btw, on the topic of trust | 20:54 |
| adherry | I did the last update for my phone on the way to the airport | 20:55 |
| adherry | with the ticket as image on my phone | 20:55 |
| adherry | most intense cab drive I ever did | 20:55 |
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| sigmounte_ | adherry , thanks for the infos , but badly tomorrow i'll really need my phone for my own security ( will be in a place where you NEED a way to call for help ) , and ia have no time to call the support ( and off course to send them my phone ) , i'm a linux users since a long time and i'm not affraid of dd'ing the image back ;) My linux box is already redy with the rndis driver waiting for my jolla | 20:58 |
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