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| coderus | PaulePanter: liiks like a CGI | 05:37 |
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| pp_ | yay, I get to pay taxes, finally! | 05:58 |
| pp_ | order #370, interesting to see how big this batch was :-) | 06:04 |
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| ar | mine was #258, and it's in front of me on my desk now | 06:06 |
| ar | (got it yesterday) | 06:06 |
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| kid | Where does one find the ordernumber? | 06:54 |
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| pp_ | email "Jolla Shop: confirmation for your order #1400000370" | 06:58 |
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| pp_ | (the first #14 is most likely "finland vs. eu vs. russia vs. us") | 06:59 |
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| kid | ah, but I only have such an e-mail for the Jolla phone. Maybe I wont get it before I have completed the order for the tablet in the Jolla shop. | 07:03 |
| * kid is part of First Sailors, but have not received an invitation yet… | 07:04 | |
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| tanghus | Weird. 1. I have all sounds off. 2. The vibrator (or what it's called) has always been very subtle - like a fly landing. I read somewhere that shaking the phone coul loosen the vibrator, so I tried that. It doesn't vibrate better, but it turned sound on for IM msgs... | 07:04 |
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| * tbr wonders if he was that late in queue... the email is from 9:17z | 07:14 | |
| tbr | where is my damn invitation *grumble* | 07:14 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: what size of emmc? | 07:17 |
| pp_ | this was enough to get the invite yesterday: From service@intl.paypal.com Wed Nov 19 11:19:25 2014 | 07:17 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: 32 | 07:18 |
| * tbr didn't bother to splash for the upgrade | 07:19 | |
| pp_ | yah, you were two minutes before me, I got the upgrade :-) | 07:20 |
| tbr | so much for "strictly in order" !@)#$ | 07:20 |
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| TemeV | Stskeeps: so ones with 64GB are shipping first? | 07:21 |
| Stskeeps | TemeV: i don't know, to be honest | 07:21 |
| TemeV | it just seems that way to me :) | 07:21 |
| TemeV | If I'd known that I would have upgraded! (propably) | 07:22 |
| Stskeeps | TemeV: my duties rely on getting the damn things working, tablet was on my desk first day of it's product lives | 07:22 |
| tbr | if that's true, then I will have few choice words for the hypocrites and their "strictly in order of contribution" | 07:22 |
| TemeV | Stskeeps: yes, of course | 07:22 |
| tbr | way to go, you didn't give us more money, here, screw you, no tablet for you until everyone who paid for the upgrade gets his | 07:23 |
| TemeV | tbr: well I got the invitation but not the tablet yet so at least some 32GB ones should be shipping | 07:23 |
| Stskeeps | TemeV: you're 32gb? | 07:24 |
| TemeV | yes | 07:24 |
| tbr | hrm | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | my logic would have been that one batch would be one type of pcb, personally | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | but i reaaaaly don't know | 07:25 |
| flux | soo, some folks have already received theirs'? is it awesome? | 07:25 |
| Armadillo | some already received it last week I think | 07:26 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: it would at least explain me missing out on the 0 wave | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: i should really go on a factory visit at some point | 07:26 |
| TemeV | tbr: you might have missed the first wave just because you were too late :) | 07:27 |
| tbr | TemeV: I checked and someone with a later mail timestamp got in | 07:27 |
| TemeV | oh | 07:27 |
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| tbr | to be clear. I don't mind if I missed 0 wave because of the emmc. I'll get pissed if I miss 1st wave due to that | 07:29 |
| TemeV | oh the first tablets are "0 wave". Well I guess emmc doesn't affect because I'm in the 0 wave with 32GB | 07:31 |
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| Stskeeps | TemeV: but you first got invitation now? | 07:32 |
| pp_ | tho I guess making igg contribution and actually paying with paypal are separate things | 07:33 |
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| TemeV | Stskeeps: I got the invitation with the first ones and paid my taxes like three weeks ago. | 07:39 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 07:39 |
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| lpotter | I'm still waiting as well | 07:47 |
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| TemeV | It's not like I'm in a hurry to get it (anymore, it would have been nice to carry it instead of a laptop on my vacation) | 07:52 |
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| chem|st | TemeV: check your spamfolder, my shipping notice was sitting there for 3 days until I noticed | 08:02 |
| chem|st | TemeV: or are you from an exotic country (exotic like in snailmail and import exotic) | 08:02 |
| entil | how many people are there in a wave? | 08:03 |
| entil | or shipments or whatever | 08:03 |
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| lainwir3d | o/ | 08:07 |
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| chem|st | entil: afaik first was a couple of undead... then is is going to be more and more until all are served | 08:25 |
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| entil | undead :D | 08:53 |
| entil | a friend of mine's just wondering where his is, but he's not exactly sure on how many orderd before him | 08:53 |
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| entil | so he doesn't know which wave he's in | 08:53 |
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| TemeV | chem|st: good tip, but no spam from Jolla :/ I'm from Finland which is quite exotic, but should be familiar grounds for Jolla :) | 09:11 |
| TemeV | I always forget to check the spam folder when waiting for some email | 09:11 |
| TemeV | I should change away from gmail though, the spam filter is awful | 09:12 |
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| narchie | jolla tablet | 10:45 |
| narchie | may2015 | 10:45 |
| narchie | jolla VAT | 10:45 |
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| narchie | does jolla tablet also have battery service included? | 10:49 |
| narchie | can I send it to optima already, it's not dying yet but I want that feature back | 10:50 |
| narchie | or what is it today, funnymobi or something | 10:50 |
| Aciid | shillOS | 10:51 |
| narchie | soon | 10:52 |
| Nicd- | narchie: maybe you should go if you have nothing to say except stupid trolling | 10:55 |
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| Aciid | which comes first tax return or jolla tablet? | 10:57 |
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| narchie | well | 10:58 |
| narchie | atleast | 10:58 |
| narchie | I got confirmation | 10:58 |
| narchie | for tax return already | 10:58 |
| narchie | so | 10:58 |
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| Lieke_ | i put narchie on the ignore list months ago, feels good | 11:01 |
| Azog | tax return? how can i get this? | 11:01 |
| Nicd- | Azog: first you need to pay taxes. then you need to pay too much of them | 11:03 |
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| Azog | ah, that is general taxes, not taxes for the tablet | 11:05 |
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| TemeV | Lieke_: not a bad idea, I have to consider that | 11:06 |
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| flux | gah, there is this one weekly event that I have already removed everywhere.. but it still alarms me every thursday. and the more annoying thing is that if I close or acknowledge it, it comes back. maybe immediately, maybe after a while. | 11:12 |
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| flux | ->reboot | 11:15 |
| flux | (journalctl didn't show anything interesting) | 11:16 |
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| inte | hello | 12:10 |
| inte | my phone battery is dead | 12:10 |
| inte | did anybody tried these already: http://m.ebay.de/itm/PolarCell-Akku-Jolla-Phone-JP-1301-22B50-Accu-Batterie-Battery-Acku-Sailfish-1-/371429134496?nav=SEARCH | 12:11 |
| inte | try | 12:11 |
| inte | has anybody tried | 12:11 |
| inte | :) | 12:11 |
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| coderus | many peoples tried | 12:12 |
| coderus | this is just htc desire 310 battery | 12:12 |
| rengel | pitää olla rusinoita | 12:12 |
| rengel | oho väärä | 12:12 |
| inte | jeah saw that | 12:12 |
| inte | but is it ok in the jolla? | 12:13 |
| coderus | search in tmo and tjc for reports | 12:13 |
| coderus | there are many | 12:13 |
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| inte | did and found nothing in tjc | 12:13 |
| coderus | in short: yes its okk | 12:13 |
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| inte | but well not so easy to find sth in tjc | 12:14 |
| Armadillo | th tjc search is crap | 12:14 |
| Armadillo | *the | 12:14 |
| coderus | https://www.google.ru/search?q=together+jolla+htc+310+battery | 12:14 |
| inte | coderus ok thx i think ill give it a try | 12:14 |
| coderus | Armadillo: yeah, almost unusable | 12:14 |
| inte | haha ok through google nice:) | 12:14 |
| coderus | even quick search options while you typing is more correct, than results after pressing enter :D | 12:15 |
| Armadillo | you can search on Google an add the site parameter, e.g.: +site:together.jolla.com | 12:15 |
| coderus | Armadillo: sure, ut i'm lazy :D | 12:15 |
| Armadillo | :D | 12:15 |
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| andybranson | i've been reading a few of those lately, as my battery's getting a bit poor | 12:16 |
| andybranson | there was a great study on one of the blogs, and i think the polarcell came out top | 12:16 |
| inte | cool thx | 12:16 |
| inte | ill go for the polarcell then | 12:16 |
| andybranson | but none of them have a temperature sensor that the jolla can use | 12:16 |
| noume | inte: I have recently bought a genuine HTC Desire 310 battery and it works a treat, the battery life is not much different from the original Jolla, even seems to be slightly better. | 12:17 |
| andybranson | so thermal cutoff doesn't work, which stops the battery exploding if it gets too hto | 12:17 |
| andybranson | that's quite unlikely, but be aware of the risk | 12:17 |
| andybranson | some folks said that a lot of these aftermarket batteries have fake temperature sensors in them in the first place though | 12:18 |
| inte | i guess i can live with that risk | 12:18 |
| andybranson | so you're not really risking much extra | 12:18 |
| inte | its getting winter anyways:) | 12:18 |
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| inte | yeah | 12:19 |
| inte | just kidding for the winter remark;) | 12:19 |
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| andybranson | here's the article. this guy went above and beyond the call of duty on this one: | 12:21 |
| andybranson | http://reviewjolla.blogspot.ch/2015/09/test-compatible-batteries-for-jolla.html | 12:21 |
| andybranson | that polarcell isn't made for jolla though. you might be able to find the same one cheaper elsewhere, but labelled as a desire 310 replacement. | 12:22 |
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| kimmoli | stay away from the "gold" | 12:22 |
| noume | uhm, after having cracked open around 80 laptop battery packs not even all of those do have working thermistors in them and even if they do, they won't help much if the cell is already in a thermal runaway condition. If you want to play safe you could swap the electronics from the dead Jolla batery with the newly bough DEsire 310 ones | 12:22 |
| inte | whatever. just clicked on "buy" already and i dont feel in the mood for endless searching :) | 12:23 |
| andybranson | that doesn't sound like playing safe to me :) | 12:23 |
| noume | To someone like me who has around 20 years of experience in electronics it does ;) | 12:23 |
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| noume | The lipo cell itself appears to be quite similar, only the protection PCB is obviously different | 12:24 |
| noume | And i can confirm that the Jolla phone does not display the temperature with the HTC battery inserted | 12:24 |
| noume | So if you do use one, take extra care | 12:25 |
| andybranson | can i use a hammer for that? :D | 12:25 |
| inte | ebay website doesnt work with jolla | 12:25 |
| inte | cant select the method for payment | 12:26 |
| noume | That somehow reminds me of photonvids on youtube xD He alwas uses a hammer when he doesn't get the result he was aiming for ;) | 12:26 |
| noume | inte: Have you trieb webpirate instead? | 12:26 |
| inte | no not yet | 12:27 |
| inte | just wanted to mention another bug:) | 12:27 |
| noume | The review is wuite insightful, thanks for that andybranson | 12:28 |
| andybranson | you're welcome. has anyone tried the x-longer one? it wasn't covered by that test. | 12:30 |
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| henk | hey, I installed the "warehouse" app store and some apps from it. Is there any way to uninstall all apps installed using it? or phrased differently: uninstall all packages not belonging to the core distri or installed using the official app store? | 14:01 |
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| Yaniel | to the system there is no difference between warehouse apps and official apps | 14:06 |
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| Raim | henk: you could get a list with 'zypper packages -i |grep openrepos' | 14:09 |
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| henk | Yaniel: Yeah, but the jolla store seems to be able to list the apps installed from the jolla store, while listing the installed packages in warehouse seems to list all installed packages. I was hoping I could somehow use these lists to filter … | 14:10 |
| henk | Raim: I’ll try that, thanks | 14:10 |
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| henk | Raim: hm, I get »bash: zypper: command not found« | 14:13 |
| henk | as root | 14:13 |
| Raim | henk: hm, then I must have installed it manually. | 14:17 |
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| henk | zypper is not in the jolla store, so to be able to uninstall all unofficial software I would need to install unofficial software? (: | 14:20 |
| Stskeeps | pkcon? | 14:21 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:21 |
| henk | Stskeeps: No idea what that is, will take a look, thanks | 14:22 |
| Raim | it's not in the store, but it's in official repos | 14:22 |
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| henk | Raim: hmm, official repos? Not heard about that either yet, where can I find info about those? | 14:23 |
| chem|st | Raim: and then someone does zypper dist-upgrade and wonders why his phone is bricked | 14:23 |
| Stskeeps | pkcon is a command for controlling packagekit which controls libzypp | 14:23 |
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| chem|st | henk: there is only one additional repo, has all the usually unnecessary CLI tools and stuff (mer) | 14:24 |
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| henk | hrm, 'pkcon get-details SirenSong-Media-Player' says 'More than one package matches:' and lists 4 versions, with one being 'installed' and the other three being available from an openrepos repo. I guess I can deduce from that where an installed package comes from. | 14:27 |
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| henk | http://pastie.org/10483661 shows my 'pkcon repo-list'. The 'openrepos-*' repos are obviously not official. Are all others official? | 14:28 |
| Stskeeps | ssu lr gives a good hint | 14:29 |
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| henk | Stskeeps: indeed, thanks | 14:30 |
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| henk | Is ssu an abbreviation? What does it mean? | 14:32 |
| henk | or what is it part of? | 14:32 |
| tbr | IIRC sthg like secure software update | 14:33 |
| henk | reason I’m asking: want to find docs for it | 14:33 |
| eugenio | seamless software update | 14:33 |
| tbr | look around maemo, that's where the concept originally came from. the jolla implementation doesn't have much in common though | 14:34 |
| henk | ah, I see | 14:34 |
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| henk | Raim, Stskeeps, chem|st, eugenio, tbr: Thank you very much for the infos (: I have enough to read and tinker some more now. I’ll try to report back when I find a solution or be back with more questions (; have a nice one | 14:35 |
| eugenio | have fun :) | 14:36 |
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| Helle | well, shit, my phone's speaker mode speaker broke | 15:54 |
| Helle | (only noticed now as it's normally on vibrate or I use headphones | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | Helle: contact care | 15:55 |
| Helle | Stskeeps: I know, just being annoyed right now | 15:55 |
| Helle | so venting a little | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 15:55 |
| Stskeeps | hardware is hard | 15:55 |
| lainwir3d | : | 15:56 |
| lainwir3d | :o | 15:56 |
| Stskeeps | lainwir3d: any more trouble with the display? | 15:57 |
| Helle | it's a silly problem as it, now that I think of it, probably broke 3 weeks ago | 15:58 |
| Helle | I just use the speaker mode that little | 15:58 |
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| PaulePanter | Hi. My touch pad does not work anymore. The buttons can turn it on and off and the volumes keys work, but I am unable to slide. | 16:28 |
| PaulePanter | That’s the first time this happens. Any ideas besides restarting it? | 16:28 |
| r0kk3rz | PaulePanter: triple press the power button | 16:29 |
| r0kk3rz | will override the prox sensor | 16:29 |
| r0kk3rz | if thats the problem anyway | 16:29 |
| r0kk3rz | but its happened to be a few times, restarting fixed it | 16:30 |
| PaulePanter | Thanks, but that didn’t help. | 16:30 |
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| PaulePanter | r0kk3rz: Restarting indeed fixed it. :( | 16:34 |
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| rigo | Hi all, does anybody know about a native jolla client for telegram? https://telegram.org/ | 17:12 |
| rigo | It would be interesting to have one as this is a very privacy friendly application | 17:12 |
| eugenio | there is sailorgram | 17:13 |
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| Helle | because you know, you really can trust Russians writing closed source software | 17:13 |
| eugenio | and jollagram, but AFAIK it's abandoned | 17:13 |
| eugenio | rigo, https://openrepos.net/content/dax/sailorgram | 17:13 |
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| rigo | thanks eugenio | 17:13 |
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| baum | by chance anyone is aware of an cli-desktop client for sailfish? | 17:21 |
| baum | (or any other client which supports vi shortcuts) | 17:21 |
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| TemeV | rigo: just remember, telegram is basically no more secure than whatsapp and the encyption is not strong | 17:36 |
| * Stskeeps uses ricochet | 17:36 | |
| TemeV | Otherwise Telegram is nice service | 17:37 |
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| rigo | hm, no more secure than Whatsapp? | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: special doesnt seem to be targetting the mass market with ricochet though | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | more specific super secret cases like journalists and such | 17:38 |
| rigo | Stskeeps: URI for ricochet? | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | rigo: https://ricochet.im/ | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | not a telegram client | 17:38 |
| * rigo has still N9 but all others around me have jolla | 17:38 | |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: whatsapp uses the textsecure protocol these days | 17:38 |
| r0kk3rz | well, textsecure encryption i should say | 17:39 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: but is subject to FISA | 17:39 |
| rigo | the issue is not insufficient encryption, the issue is a legal entity in the US | 17:39 |
| r0kk3rz | well its supposed to be encrypted end to end | 17:39 |
| r0kk3rz | so whatsapp doesnt know the contents of the message to give to the NSA regardless of secret orders | 17:40 |
| rigo | but what's the fuzz about whatsapp then? | 17:40 |
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| * rigo has no time for such toys | 17:40 | |
| r0kk3rz | that said, they could get ordered to backdoor it, since there are no thirdparty servers | 17:40 |
| rigo | ah | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | same thing with telegram really, only one entity controls the servers | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | except instead of the NSA, its the russian authorities | 17:41 |
| rigo | they don't read english :-o | 17:42 |
| r0kk3rz | im sure they can manage | 17:42 |
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| Stskeeps | telegram isn't russian authorities | 17:42 |
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| Stskeeps | it should be pretty clear by the history around the founder and VK | 17:42 |
| * baum uses tox | 17:42 | |
| rigo | hm, I see some need for interoperability between those services. IRC still works :) | 17:43 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: i was unaware of specific history, only that VK was basically the ruski facebook | 17:43 |
| rigo | Telegram servers are spread worldwide for security and speed. | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavel_Durov | 17:43 |
| baum | rigo: so are tox servers :P | 17:44 |
| baum | *nodes | 17:44 |
| taaem | Let's all use IRC for everything and be happy :-D | 17:45 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: very well then, good on him for standing up to them | 17:45 |
| Stskeeps | irc is shit for security unless you trust the server owner | 17:46 |
| Stskeeps | all messages are readable by the servers that relay your messages | 17:46 |
| r0kk3rz | and these channels publish public logs, so... | 17:46 |
| rigo | yes, but if you have a private server, it's pretty cool. We have a nice private server in W3C :) | 17:47 |
| Stskeeps | rigo: what do you run of sw, ooi? | 17:47 |
| taaem | but most people still use whatsapp.... | 17:48 |
| taaem | sadly they don't care about smaller OSs | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | we should as humans just be able to communicate person to person directly | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | through digital enhancements | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 17:49 |
| rigo | Stskeeps: I frankly don't know as I'm none of the W3C IRC gods | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | rigo: hehe, ok | 17:49 |
| rigo | and the welcome message doesn't tell | 17:49 |
| Stskeeps | rigo: my history is doing irc daemon software, one of the first to include ssl/tls | 17:50 |
| Stskeeps | and encrypting network links, etc | 17:50 |
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| rigo | ah, ngircd | 17:50 |
| rigo | yes, all encrypted and only private channels && | 17:50 |
| * baum thinking of it, i should start using irc & OTR | 17:50 | |
| rigo | baum, I use OTR with jabber | 17:50 |
| rigo | ok folks, thanks so much, dinner time now | 17:51 |
| r0kk3rz | poor jabber seems to be going by the wayside a little bit | 17:51 |
| baum | pfff jabber....what happened to the good old p2p? | 17:52 |
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| * Stskeeps never liked jabber | 17:53 | |
| * baum didn't actually meet that many people who use whatsapp, most of the time the question is: do you have email? | 17:54 | |
| r0kk3rz | baum: loads of people use whatsapp | 17:54 |
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| baum | r0kk3rz: out of my head i only know 3 | 17:55 |
| baum | guess my people are stuck a few decades behind | 17:55 |
| r0kk3rz | aside from a couple of features, i dont really see the big deal | 17:56 |
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| r0kk3rz | but i guess its the first 'instant messenger' to take off after sms, so it has critical mass | 17:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | mobile instant messenger i mean | 17:57 |
| baum | to each it's own i guess :) | 17:58 |
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| taaem | For me like everybody uses Whatsapp, nearly all my Contacts on my phone which are quite many ... | 17:58 |
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| baum | taaem: maybe it's time to question the people you hang out with? =P | 17:59 |
| Smar | I wish people used something else than whatsapp —.— | 18:00 |
| taaem | baum: haha maybe but at my school you need whatsapp otherwise you would miss so much :/ | 18:00 |
| baum | taaem: alright, what would you miss? | 18:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | baum: school drama obviously, but perhaps thats a feature | 18:01 |
| taaem | baum: when my class is meeting somewhere, homework, free lessons, and for meeting with other people | 18:01 |
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| baum | r0kk3rz: probably, i just wanted to let him figure it out on his own :) | 18:02 |
| baum | taaem: means your school forces you to use whatsapp in order to be able to attend the lectures? | 18:02 |
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| r0kk3rz | sounds horrible | 18:03 |
| baum | yep | 18:04 |
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| baum | taaem: plus you are implying that other people wouldn't bother to meet you if you wouldn't have whatsapp | 18:04 |
| baum | which leaves the question wether you actually want to meet these people :) | 18:04 |
| taaem | baum: not official but under the students its always that you write on whatsapp | 18:04 |
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| * Stskeeps stands by that we should just be able to communicate directly person to person using digital brain enhancements, with no middlemen | 18:05 | |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | this messenger split of populace is insane :) | 18:05 |
| taaem | and for making up time to meet its just comfortable because everybody has it | 18:05 |
| taaem | Stskeeps: thats of course another story :D | 18:05 |
| taaem | but if you would want that... | 18:05 |
| baum | now this implys that you wouldn't bother to meet people who don't have it = | 18:05 |
| baum | =/ | 18:05 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: that sounds oppressive, not entirely sure i like the idea of letting people randomly project their thoughts into my head at will | 18:06 |
| eugenio | had the same experience as taaem | 18:06 |
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| eugenio | fortunately now as I finished high school I can drop Whatsapp completely once one of the Telegram clients matures enough | 18:07 |
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| taaem | I am still wondering what SoluMachines will announce in the next hours... | 18:08 |
| * baum got the impression that certain parts of society are way too much dependend on IMs | 18:08 | |
| taaem | baum: kinda true | 18:08 |
| eugenio | they are | 18:08 |
| r0kk3rz | communication makes a lot of things easier though | 18:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | taaem: i still think its going to be skynet | 18:10 |
| baum | r0kk3rz: meeting in the pub and drinking wisky makes the communication easier =P | 18:10 |
| r0kk3rz | baum: yes, and you use IM to get your friends to the pub | 18:10 |
| Tegu | just don't bother to meet anyone so there's no need to communicate | 18:10 |
| r0kk3rz | baum: and also to abuse the ones who dont turn up | 18:11 |
| baum | r0kk3rz: most of the time i just talk with people directly, like: let's meet tomorrow 7o'clock in the park | 18:12 |
| baum | done - no IM required | 18:12 |
| taaem | baum: you call them? | 18:12 |
| Sidde | drinks, whisky! who's buying? when can i show up? | 18:13 |
| taaem | and then there is snapchat :-D | 18:13 |
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| baum | taaem: i usually run into them, if not i call them/they call me | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | baum: younger people seem to be quite flaky these days, and will bail at the last moment if there isnt a 'yes we're still doing this' text or something | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | the idea that you can make plans in advance and keep them seems to be lost | 18:14 |
| baum | oh, and did i already mention that i got a doorbell? :P | 18:14 |
| taaem | doorbells are so old school :P | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | baum: its also hard for me to ring the doorbell of my friends back home in australia | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | just sayin | 18:15 |
| baum | r0kk3rz: well in this case drinking wisky together might just be as hard | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | this is also true | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | timezones kinda ruin that a bit | 18:16 |
| * baum is living in his very own timezone =P | 18:17 | |
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| baum | anyways, back to OCaml :) | 18:18 |
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