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| tiwake | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Krita-3.0-Qt5-KF5-Technical | 06:44 |
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| tiwake | krita 3, last I looked it up, would be able to run on wayland | 06:44 |
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| kimmoli | tiwake: thanks, found this link http://www.kdab.com/moving-your-ui-code-into-the-future-with-qt-and-c/ | 06:57 |
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| kimmoli | through the krita blog | 06:57 |
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| dist | Soooooo. When should I be getting the invitation mail for the tablet? (backed on indiegogo on the same day it was released) | 08:30 |
| Acce | when our masters so shall mercily decide | 08:32 |
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| AL13N_work | ok, so there's an option to get the top-swipe-close-app functionality; but where's the setting to get the top-swipe-lock-device behavior back? | 08:34 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | AL13N_work: top swipe lock is now top swipe + tap lock | 08:34 |
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| AL13N_work | when i want to lock my device, i don't want to press a button, which is not easily done blindly | 08:35 |
| AL13N_work | plus i don't want to accidentally switch ambiances | 08:35 |
| AL13N_work | i would like to have the old behavior back for this | 08:35 |
| AL13N_work | a setting is fine | 08:35 |
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| AL13N_work | i don't really like the top-bar either, and the lock screen thing where i have to flick before getting the unlock code screen either, but it's not as annoying as the lock device thing | 08:36 |
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| Skorpy | AL13N_work: there's a patch for it. Hopefully they'll add that patch as the default function as it worked flawlessly in 1.1.9 | 08:37 |
| AL13N_work | tbh: i thought we wanted to have less "tap" and more swipe, but some of these things make things more android-like which is probably good for new users, but i still want the top-swick-lock back | 08:37 |
| AL13N_work | Skorpy: i'd prefer not to have have stuff from non-harbour | 08:38 |
| AL13N_work | anyway, i would like a setting to restore this old functionality, like the top-swipe-close-app setting | 08:38 |
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| coderus | don't expect any settings for it | 08:44 |
| AL13N_work | :-( | 08:45 |
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| AL13N_work | if there's no extra setting, then i want the top-swipe-close-app setting to include the top-swick-lock-device too | 08:46 |
| AL13N_work | it makes sense for consistency | 08:46 |
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| leinir | Just call it the "I don't like things changing" option ;) | 08:49 |
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| coderus | i'm still using physical lock button with no any problems | 08:50 |
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| Yaniel | I just wish said button had better tactile feedback | 08:51 |
| AL13N_work | leinir: well, i don't, but most of the other stuff i didn't mind much and the top-swipe-close-app had a setting to have it back | 08:52 |
| AL13N_work | it's a bit odd though | 08:52 |
| AL13N_work | it's out of character to have a swipe+ tap thing | 08:52 |
| AL13N_work | the whole thing was to lose less time | 08:53 |
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| AL13N_work | but extra tap to lock and extra swipe to unlock | 08:53 |
| AL13N_work | plus, the tap to lock is dangerously close to ambience change stuff | 08:54 |
| AL13N_work | i'd even prefer to have the ambience stuff and locking to be handled like pulley menu's | 08:55 |
| coderus | how do you handle 20 ambiences here? :D | 08:56 |
| AL13N_work | rm -rf :-) | 08:56 |
| AL13N_work | j/k :-) | 08:56 |
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| AL13N_work | i'd handle ambiance changes with replacing the cover... | 08:57 |
| sharpneli | Graah | 08:59 |
| sharpneli | My biggest peeve of Sailfish 2.0: When you wake the phone up it takes almost 2 seconds for the time to be visible | 08:59 |
| sharpneli | Before it was nigh instant | 08:59 |
| sharpneli | Crappy animations that just become annoying | 09:00 |
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| Yaniel | we should really have the latest changelog in the topic | 09:12 |
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| ggabriel | hi | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | ok, before I post, I thought I'd check here first | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | anybody knows of a tjc about the status bar being way too small for peeking and e.g., checking the time? | 09:34 |
| ggabriel | (in 1.1.9 ofc) | 09:34 |
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| stephg | sledges: he's cool, he pinged me when I was in greece as he saw the same compositor problem that I did when I was trying to do the m7 port | 09:37 |
| stephg | he's solved it so when I get that m7 the porting will continue... | 09:38 |
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| sledges | stephg: he who? ;) | 09:38 |
| sledges | but great news man! | 09:39 |
| stephg | brainfart, I've replied to you here not in #nemomobile | 09:40 |
| stephg | ^^sledges | 09:40 |
| sledges | roger;) | 09:40 |
| ggabriel | what a colourfull nickname | 09:41 |
| sledges | for those who don't know what we're on about: 12:33 < sledges> IT'S AWESOME! https://twitter.com/AsteroidOS/status/647299537619582976 | 09:41 |
| stephg | ggabriel haha | 09:41 |
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| sledges | hey ggabriel , how's things? wanna meetup in london on sunday for fairphone workshop? | 09:42 |
| ggabriel | sledges: things are good, thanks, what time and where? | 09:42 |
| ggabriel | and i'd imagine fairphone running sailfish, else i'll be a hater | 09:43 |
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| sledges | if it's going to be hackable, then port it ;) | 09:44 |
| sledges | ggabriel: https://www.fairphone.com/2015/09/23/opening-up-fairphone-to-the-community-open-source-fairphone-2/ | 09:44 |
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| ggabriel | uhm... can't make it i'm afraid... have something going on in the morning, early pm | 09:46 |
| ggabriel | and that's when things happen :( | 09:46 |
| stephg | :( | 09:46 |
| stephg | shame | 09:46 |
| ggabriel | i hope they're opening it up enough | 09:47 |
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| ggabriel | i read the article a few days ago, and fairphone os == android | 09:47 |
| Tofe | sledges: looks good! open (and unlockable) bootloader, access to source and builds, drivers... Everything is there for a successful port :) There'll be a challenge for Android 5.1 driver support, but it should be possible | 09:47 |
| ggabriel | a part of me wonders how well it will go down with fairphone if we say "heyyy, sooo, can we put another OS on your device for free?" | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | otoh, fairphone should be interested in alternatives according to themselves... | 09:49 |
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| gexc-phone | another MOVEMENT lol | 09:54 |
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| ggabriel | lol, i'm having trolling thoughts right now | 10:00 |
| gexc-phone | wonder if the parts are in good supply though | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | the fairphone isn't new | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | so it's a matter of finding out what happened with the first iteration | 10:01 |
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| sledges | Tofe: if source is given, aosp5.1 is already supported in mer-hybris (not documented yet, but only minor differences from cm) | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | my ex manager has it, but he's not techie at all, it wouldn't surprise me if he never updated it | 10:01 |
| sledges | ggabriel: we'll see us next time then!:) | 10:14 |
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| ggabriel | sledges: yeah :) | 10:16 |
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| Shihua | hello,today I am so busy.Two bodies call me one time,my jolla's system halted. | 11:20 |
| Shihua | why? | 11:20 |
| Shihua | it is a phone the basic function is so bad | 11:21 |
| Shihua | halted twice. I have to reboot | 11:22 |
| ggabriel | which version of sfos are you running? | 11:22 |
| Shihua | 1.1.9.28 | 11:22 |
| ggabriel | maybe similar to this? https://together.jolla.com/question/53711/phone-application-freezes/ | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | you may want to consider getting some logs persisted and report in tjc to help with the issue | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | this was an issue for in in 1.1.6 I think but then it got fixed | 11:23 |
| Shihua | the basic functions is so bad,first it as a phone.nobody noticed? | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | maybe you're running a lot of things? | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | Shihua: this issue happens on every smartphone that is running too much stuff | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | don't get fooled - that's the first question you should ask yourself | 11:24 |
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| Shihua | ggabriel: i just open one app | 11:24 |
| ggabriel | which application? :) if it's the browser with 10 tabs then you may have a problem | 11:25 |
| ggabriel | in any case, that hasn't happened to me so far | 11:25 |
| Shihua | basic functions are so rubbish | 11:26 |
| Shihua | ggabriel: just a irc, | 11:26 |
| ggabriel | yup, you may want to debug it | 11:27 |
| ggabriel | if it's easy to reproduce | 11:27 |
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| ggabriel | it could be a number of things, but i'm running the same version and this doesn't happen to me | 11:27 |
| ggabriel | so i'm not sure it's a general issue | 11:27 |
| ggabriel | if you can't spend the time, just reset the device | 11:27 |
| ggabriel | if you happen to have a more serious problem (e.g., broken emmc), then you need to contact care | 11:28 |
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| Shihua | I am using developers mode,after debug app,i forget close it | 11:28 |
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| ggabriel | you can write the logs to a file | 11:28 |
| ggabriel | so you don't need to have terminal open | 11:29 |
| Shihua | it is trouble | 11:29 |
| ggabriel | then reset the device | 11:29 |
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| Shihua | i update | 11:29 |
| Shihua | use terminal | 11:29 |
| Shihua | to 1.1.9.18 | 11:29 |
| Shihua | because this? | 11:30 |
| ggabriel | if it's trouble to debug, then reset it | 11:30 |
| ggabriel | yes, I can't offer you better advice than that | 11:30 |
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| ggabriel | I mean, you do the same with android/ios - there's no reason why sailfish is an exception | 11:30 |
| Shihua | thanks, it make me headache. | 11:30 |
| mtd | hi -- I've updated to 1.1.9.28 (Eineheminlampi) and now my phone is stuck showing only a origami bird... | 11:31 |
| mtd | ...I can ssh in though. Any pointers about what to search for? | 11:31 |
| ggabriel | mtd: tried rebooting? | 11:31 |
| mtd | ggabriel: yes, though only via power button as I haven't been able to ssh in until now. | 11:31 |
| ggabriel | and I assume you tried swiping left/right | 11:32 |
| ggabriel | instead of up/down | 11:32 |
| mtd | ggabriel: yes :) | 11:32 |
| ggabriel | I had to ask | 11:32 |
| mtd | ggabriel: I can swipe down to lock, but no other direction helps | 11:32 |
| stephg | if you tap the scren you should get the quick launch icons (phone, browser, camera and something else by default) | 11:32 |
| Shihua | jolla's phone app and message app is also rubbish | 11:32 |
| mtd | stephg: unfortunately not :( | 11:32 |
| Shihua | what are they do? | 11:32 |
| stephg | mtd: I wonder if your homescreen has crashed | 11:33 |
| mtd | the bird is only on the top half of the screen, bottom half is blank (portrait-wise) | 11:33 |
| Shihua | idi | 11:33 |
| stephg | if you long press you should get the poweroff dialogue | 11:33 |
| stephg | I'd try that | 11:33 |
| stephg | mtd: does it change orientation when you rotate it | 11:33 |
| stephg | ? | 11:33 |
| mtd | stephg: nope, doesn't change orientation | 11:33 |
| stephg | I'd restart it then | 11:33 |
| Shihua | ... | 11:34 |
| Shihua | so many problems in1.1.9.18 | 11:34 |
| Shihua | 28 | 11:34 |
| Shihua | i want cell fish | 11:34 |
| mtd | stephg: I have, quite a few times :( | 11:34 |
| stephg | mtd: did it ever work? | 11:34 |
| Shihua | it's salefish | 11:35 |
| stephg | (since updating) | 11:35 |
| mtd | stephg: no, unfort. | 11:35 |
| Shihua | salefish. | 11:38 |
| Shihua | thanks.I reset it immediately. | 11:38 |
| stephg | mtd: do you have developermode enabled? | 11:39 |
| stephg | something sounds broken unfort | 11:39 |
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| mtd | stephg: yes | 11:40 |
| mtd | stephg: I am ssh'ed in and have reset tracker and killed lipstick to see what happens, and the phone is certainly responsive, but it's as if something isn't registering the touches or the home screen has crashed or something. | 11:40 |
| stephg | mtd yes | 11:43 |
| stephg | as root try a systemctl-user restart lipstick | 11:44 |
| stephg | screen will blank and it should try and start | 11:44 |
| stephg | am curious whether you get any flashing red or green LED | 11:45 |
| mtd | stephg: thanks, I did that as root and got no LED blinks or light at all | 11:48 |
| mtd | just restarted | 11:48 |
| mtd | hmm, I see this when I try pkcon install lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 11:49 |
| mtd | Fatal error: lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.24.68.4-10.83.7.jolla.armv7hl requires lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-components = 0.24.68.4-10.83.7.jolla, but this requirement cannot be provided | 11:49 |
| mtd | I wonder if the upgrade is not finished or something | 11:49 |
| stephg | yeah | 11:49 |
| stephg | ssu ur && pkcon refresh && version --dup | 11:49 |
| stephg | need to check the last one | 11:49 |
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| mtd | stephg: thanks -- I need to set up networking from the command line now :) | 11:52 |
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| stephg | but your ssh works? | 11:52 |
| stephg | if so, do networking over the USB | 11:53 |
| stephg | much much quicker | 11:53 |
| stephg | is your computer linux? | 11:53 |
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| stephg | mtd: https://together.jolla.com/question/58975/network-sharing-from-pc-to-phone-answered/ | 11:56 |
| stephg | mtd: actually not that | 11:56 |
| stephg | mtd: well nearly not that | 11:57 |
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| stephg | right lunchtiem bbl | 12:01 |
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| coderus | stephg: systemctl --user restart listick | 12:23 |
| coderus | with no root | 12:23 |
| coderus | mtd: pkcon refresh before pkcon install something | 12:24 |
| coderus | and try pkcon install lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-components | 12:24 |
| coderus | as it want so | 12:24 |
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| Yaniel | I spy with my little eye a checkmark on the "research selinux for app permissions" item on the roadmap | 13:12 |
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| ggabriel | are we all going to become selinxu experts now? | 13:21 |
| tbr | they just researched it, doesn't say they will adopt it | 13:23 |
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| Yaniel | yeah | 13:25 |
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| TemeV | Would be interesting to know some results and plans on that matter | 13:28 |
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| matze_ | Hi guys. I am the only one having problems with the android whatsapp client since the update to sailfish 2.0? | 13:47 |
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| inte | hello | 14:50 |
| inte | blog.jolla.com claims sfos2.0 was out but i dont get any updates? | 14:51 |
| ggabriel | inte: you already have it through EA? | 14:51 |
| inte | i have 1.9.28 | 14:51 |
| cb400f | that's 2.0 | 14:51 |
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| cb400f | first (biggest) phase | 14:52 |
| inte | and i dont think it's ready for the public:( | 14:52 |
| cb400f | the rest of 2.0 is coming in the next update | 14:52 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: ^^ I told you it was going to be very confusing | 14:52 |
| inte | that's ambitious | 14:52 |
| cb400f | looks good to me, except "mute" missing from the lock screen pulley menu | 14:53 |
| inte | manly because of the oom bug | 14:53 |
| inte | and the buttons | 14:53 |
| inte | and oom starts killing your apps as soon as you open the browser... | 14:53 |
| cb400f | not here | 14:53 |
| inte | well ok, thanks for info | 14:53 |
| ggabriel | it's kind of ok this side | 14:54 |
| inte | you have dalvik installed? | 14:54 |
| ggabriel | yup, but stopped | 14:54 |
| cb400f | I don't do excessive multitasking, but I can run 3-4 apps fine besides the browser, including a couple of android appz | 14:54 |
| ggabriel | unless I need it | 14:54 |
| ggabriel | i did, however, open a .doc document yesterday and that killed the email application which was pretty much the biggest program open | 14:55 |
| ggabriel | but that's m$ for you | 14:55 |
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| TMavica | anyone can use 17 apps in Jolla? | 15:39 |
| lainwir3d | never tried | 15:42 |
| TMavica | i crashed after login.. | 15:42 |
| TMavica | it | 15:42 |
| tadzik | at the same time? | 15:44 |
| tadzik | did you download more ram or something? :) | 15:44 |
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| TMavica | sure not | 15:45 |
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| TMavica | can u try? | 15:45 |
| TMavica | help test | 15:45 |
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| ggabriel | TMavica: tadzik's point is that they get killed by oom, so you won't have 17 open | 15:46 |
| ggabriel | or you mean try 17 in the home screen, whether open or not? | 15:46 |
| TMavica | i not means i open 17 apps.. | 15:46 |
| TMavica | 17 is a new android app | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | oh, right | 15:47 |
| TMavica | 17 is the name of it | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | lol, sorry | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | you said "apps" first | 15:47 |
| TMavica | it can watch live on girls | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | not my fault, thakns for clarifying | 15:47 |
| TMavica | so fun | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | sounds nsfw | 15:47 |
| TMavica | can you try it? see it crash or not? | 15:47 |
| ggabriel | not really because i'm at work :) | 15:48 |
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| TemeV | I guess it is not an easy app to find with search | 15:49 |
| TemeV | if it's named just "17" | 15:49 |
| TemeV | just guessing though | 15:49 |
| TMavica | http://apkpure.com/17-your-life-s-moments/com.machipopo.story17 | 15:49 |
| TMavica | it is so hot recently in Asia | 15:50 |
| TemeV | I think I'll pass, not really interested in lifes of unknown people | 15:51 |
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| kimmoli | heh | 15:54 |
| gexc | there might be backdoorz in hot appz, especially apkz, hmm... | 15:54 |
| ggabriel | but they pay royalties!! ;-) | 15:54 |
| TMavica | ................ | 15:55 |
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| ggabriel | sfos 2.0 has really nice animations though | 16:01 |
| ggabriel | the pulley menu one pisses me off a bit | 16:01 |
| ggabriel | but the rest are quite nice | 16:01 |
| ggabriel | i bet that's why the press loved it :P | 16:01 |
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| TMavica | i know why cant use...need to allow Android apps access contact | 16:09 |
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| ggabriel | TMavica: doesn't that sound suspicious to you? | 16:12 |
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| gexc | too many android apps want to access contact | 16:17 |
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| gexc | like skype even does not offer a 'cancel' button | 16:18 |
| gexc | had to use the 'back' button though | 16:18 |
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| mtd | stephg, coderus: thanks | 17:53 |
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| marja | it wasn't easy, after the upgrade, to get the screen to unlock the phone... figured it out now, but i'm not against improving it so that you get that screen right away, like used to be | 18:23 |
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| iotRE | Dammit, phone ran out of battery during btrfs balance. | 19:49 |
| iotRE | Is there something I can do before starting the process to have a better chance this time? | 19:50 |
| iotRE | 48h wasn't enough last time | 19:50 |
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| fennekki | hmmmm, any ideas as to why eduroam/WPA2 Enterprise connection reports "Incorrect value entered" and fail to connect after Björnträsket? | 20:13 |
| pp_ | looked at together.jolla.com for eduroam instructions (gui won't do it, yet) | 20:13 |
| fennekki | updating to 1.1.9.28 Eineheminlampi changed nothing | 20:14 |
| fennekki | pp_: no, see, it used to work with the eduroam instructions | 20:14 |
| fennekki | now doesn't | 20:14 |
| fennekki | dmesg/journalctl show messages suggesting Phase2 auth succeeded yet the connection is apparently never actually formed succesfully | 20:15 |
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| fennekki | ofc could be issue with school wifi specifically but afaict nothing about it has changed recently | 20:16 |
| fennekki | anyway if anyone has ideas ping me | 20:17 |
| fennekki | I'd like to get it working again | 20:17 |
| pp_ | mine breaks but that's due to password expiry :-) (use it with a mac, 4g is just so much less hassle and fast enough so I don't bother with wifi on the jolla) | 20:18 |
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| fennekki | there's also a slash in my passphrase but iirc it worked with that for a while | 20:24 |
| fennekki | plus, again, phase2 auth claims to succeed :/ | 20:24 |
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| pp_ | I would try with a non-jolla and if it works, then try to figure out wtf connman is doing wrong (or maybe conf file needs update for whatever reason) | 20:25 |
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| Nokius | good evening | 20:45 |
| Nokius | short question is it possible to add translate descriptions to the harbour Jolla has it | 20:46 |
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| disharmonic | First impressions, 2.0 is quite the improvement. Congrats | 21:08 |
| nh1402 | yh, the new shortcuts (minus swiping from the top at the home screen) are much more intuative imo | 21:14 |
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