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| coderus | pdanek: in web account.jolla.com "Early access to Sailfish OS releases" | 00:29 |
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| pdanek | coderus: did the early access releases have many issues historically? | 00:34 |
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| coderus | pdanek: never | 00:42 |
| coderus | early access is stable releases | 00:43 |
| coderus | cbeta is buggy | 00:43 |
| coderus | and some internal qa is hard to use releases :D | 00:43 |
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| jaacoppi | early access does have some issues. For 1.1.7, 3 versions were released as early access before a final 1.1.7.28 was released for everyone | 05:16 |
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| coderus | but it never failed/crashed/destroyed all data :) | 05:23 |
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| pp_ | yep, few small bugs that may be showstoppers for some but generally not (and nothing that prevents updating to the one that fixes it) | 05:25 |
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| Nicd- | jaacoppi: the point of EA was to find those bugs so they could be fixed :P | 05:26 |
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| Nicd- | I think many EA releases is part of the process | 05:26 |
| the_mgt | some of them were rather small, too. one was 4mb, the other 30mb, iirc | 05:31 |
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| jaacoppi | yeah, I was referrend to pdanek saying "did the early access releases have many issues historically?". They did have many issues. Maybe not serious issues, but issues still | 05:33 |
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| Nicd- | ah | 05:38 |
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| jaacoppi | I've still got 1.1.7.24 since it works well enough for me | 05:49 |
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| lainwir3d | hi | 08:11 |
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| citylight2 | I am using the brand new debian 8.1 lxde by rcn-ee to set up gpio0(23) P8_43 as gpio | 08:19 |
| citylight2 | config-pin -a P8_43 gpio | 08:20 |
| citylight2 | I get: | 08:20 |
| citylight2 | P8_43 pinmux file not found! | 08:20 |
| citylight2 | P8_43 overlay not found | 08:20 |
| citylight2 | bash: line 0: echo: write error: No such file or directory | 08:20 |
| citylight2 | Error loading device tree overlay file: cape-universala | 08:20 |
| citylight2 | sorry | 08:20 |
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| cintema_ | http://www.welt.de/wirtschaft/webwelt/article146178876/Das-finnische-Jolla-Tablet-ist-Spionage-sicher.html | 09:16 |
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| inte | sorry german article but in one of the mayor newspapers | 09:16 |
| inte | pretty cool | 09:16 |
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| inte | well the article is mainly concentraiting on the hardware specs and comparing it to android tablets on the one hand, but on the other pointing out the security advantage of SailfishOS | 09:33 |
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| inte | good to be in the "big" press in either case :-) | 09:46 |
| Helle | SailfishOS, the operating system designed with humans in mind ? | 09:48 |
| Helle | that is often what it feels like to me | 09:48 |
| Helle | especially whenever I have to deal with some silly Android thing | 09:48 |
| artemma | how can you feel it? :) | 09:48 |
| Helle | artemma: well, this is feel vs know, I am not a usability engineering expert | 09:49 |
| Stskeeps | Helle: or as i call it, designed to be part of the human mind.. | 09:49 |
| Helle | Oh, btw, I've managed to get a redshift style thing working, but it's not pretty with how it hacks the compositor | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | flux? | 09:50 |
| Helle | Stskeeps: yes, colour temperature adjustment based on time of day | 09:50 |
| Stskeeps | nod | 09:51 |
| lainwir3d | Nice. | 09:51 |
| Helle | My personal two missing items are "pinning/widgets" and animated backgrounds :P | 09:52 |
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| Helle | But uh, in practice, jneither of them is as much a show stopper as the just horrendous UIs on Android | 09:52 |
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| pp_ | ooh | 10:00 |
| pp_ | dunno if the "avoid blue light before sleeptime" really works, but at least I'm doing something about it | 10:01 |
| Helle | pp_: well, for me it's more "this is nicer on my eyes in the evening" | 10:01 |
| Helle | so I can actually look at the screen without feeling like my eyes are being burned out | 10:02 |
| Helle | but the problem is, I need to patch the compositor's QML to apply the shader (and give it params) | 10:02 |
| Helle | I may be able to do some tricky magic to avoid that | 10:02 |
| Helle | but currently, it is probably not even safe to put up on warehouse | 10:03 |
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| inte | I find Android hell to use | 10:03 |
| inte | its even worse then symbian :) | 10:03 |
| inte | but with less features ;) | 10:03 |
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| inte | at least for the telephony part | 10:04 |
| Helle | inte: mmmm, yeah | 10:04 |
| Helle | well, telephone isn't great on SailfishOS either, but who ever uses a phone :P | 10:04 |
| kimmoli | i made simple black opaque rectangle overlay to dimm the display | 10:05 |
| ggabriel | i do, and it works great for me | 10:05 |
| flux | stskeeps, yes dear?! | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | flux: hah | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | f.lux | 10:05 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:05 |
| inte | Helle: true :) | 10:06 |
| inte | I was still using Symbian since I had a second line on my contract (aka Alternate Line Service) | 10:06 |
| inte | but my provider ceased the service since all modern phones wasnt supporting it any longer | 10:06 |
| inte | well, "modern" | 10:07 |
| inte | it was still somewhat supported on the N900 though | 10:07 |
| inte | through terminal commands | 10:07 |
| inte | but not on the N9 neither on the Jolla | 10:07 |
| inte | but the service is dead now anyways, no worries | 10:08 |
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| inte | I still find there were some great GSM services once, like ALS, billing information, UMA, and such | 10:08 |
| inte | Obivously the providers, in a state of sleep, werent able to really monetize them | 10:10 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | inte you got two numbers on same sim ? | 10:18 |
| inte | yes | 10:20 |
| inte | well, not any more | 10:20 |
| inte | but i used to | 10:20 |
| inte | remember that little 1 (or 2) in the top line of symbian phones | 10:20 |
| inte | you were able to switch lines by holding the # longer | 10:21 |
| pp_ | probably that feature required ~= 1 jollaful of engineers to maintain ;) | 10:21 |
| inte | was also working on ericsson or whatever | 10:21 |
| inte | pp_: well the service is dead now due to lack of support by phone manufactures | 10:21 |
| inte | was very comfortable though | 10:22 |
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| inte | you had different ringtones depening on the line the call came in | 10:22 |
| inte | different diverts | 10:22 |
| inte | etc. | 10:22 |
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| inte | pretty cool | 10:22 |
| inte | on ericsson phones, it was also possible to have the diverts automatically set when switching the profile | 10:23 |
| inte | like private profile, all business calls went straight to the mailbox | 10:23 |
| Yaniel | that's actually pretty cool | 10:23 |
| inte | some providers now offer some sim toolkit based dual sim | 10:23 |
| inte | but its more like an actual dual sim, its only one incoming line therefore the same ringtone for all incomming calls | 10:24 |
| inte | on the other hand, roaming was never possible for the second line with ALS | 10:24 |
| Mikaela | someone I know has her phone like that too, when she is at work everything is done with work numbr and outside of work personal number | 10:25 |
| inte | with the non-standard stk-based dualline that works | 10:25 |
| inte | Mikaela: well that rather the "new" service since ALS is probably dead now | 10:25 |
| Mikaela | the only issue that I have seen is that my Jolla attempts to reply to work number (where SMS originates from) while the work number doesn't relay SMSes | 10:25 |
| inte | what phone does she use | 10:25 |
| inte | oh, true, sms were only possible on the first line for outgoing | 10:26 |
| Mikaela | Some Android, I am not sure if it's Samsung or LG, but probably Samsung | 10:26 |
| inte | but incoming sms were just forwarded from both lines | 10:26 |
| inte | im pretty sure android doesnt support als | 10:26 |
| Mikaela | her incoming SMS aren't forwarded from work number | 10:27 |
| Mikaela | I don't know if it's ALS or what, but it's like that timed. It would probably read somewhere in Elisa's business pages | 10:27 |
| inte | https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6174 | 10:27 |
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| inte | Mikaela: which country? | 10:28 |
| inte | provider | 10:28 |
| Mikaela | Finland | 10:28 |
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| inte | how cant read fincrypted so I wont find out :) | 10:29 |
| inte | i know for orange(UK), Eplus(Germany), Rogers(Canada) and ONE(Austria) that they either ceased the service or they switched to the STK-based one | 10:30 |
| Mikaela | I didn't find anything else on their contracts page other than how much business packs would cost | 10:30 |
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| inte | Mikaela: Its sometimes somewhere hidden in the business section | 10:42 |
| inte | they usually dont promote that service | 10:43 |
| Mikaela | I have no idea where I would look for it | 10:43 |
| Mikaela | before hearing about her setup I didn't even know that it exists and would have just thought about dualsim phone | 10:43 |
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| TMavica | Someone already bought Jolla tablet in China.. | 11:06 |
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| inte | Mikaela: whats her provider? | 11:10 |
| Mikaela | Elisa as I said | 11:11 |
| inte | TMavica: oh they have clones already? | 11:11 |
| inte | Mikaela: You said Finland :-) | 11:11 |
| inte | or is there only one provider in finland? | 11:11 |
| ggabriel | nah, there are more in .fi | 11:12 |
| inte | (seriously, I dont know) | 11:12 |
| ggabriel | such as dna | 11:12 |
| Mikaela | 2015-09-09 13:27:22+0300 < Mikaela> I don't know if it's ALS or what, but it's like that timed. It would probably read somewhere in Elisa's business pages | 11:12 |
| inte | ggabriel: ah, sure | 11:12 |
| inte | Mikaela: haha, I thought Elisa was her name :-) | 11:12 |
| Mikaela | I see | 11:12 |
| ggabriel | that explains the "her" | 11:12 |
| the_mgt | inte: wasn't this second line stuff used for "home zones", too? | 11:13 |
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| the_mgt | I thought that was why they patched out the stuff, so the user couldn't manually switch between those | 11:13 |
| inte | the_mgt: no that is something different | 11:14 |
| inte | the_mgt: eplus never had a homezone, neither one of the other providers i mentioned above | 11:14 |
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| the_mgt | I didn't read everything | 11:14 |
| inte | homezone was a different gsm feature | 11:15 |
| the_mgt | eplus now offers a landline number for receiving calls | 11:15 |
| inte | the old phones with this lcd even had a little house which could switch on or of depending on where you are | 11:15 |
| the_mgt | I remember | 11:15 |
| inte | the_mgt: yes, but that number is always working | 11:15 |
| inte | its just a call forward | 11:16 |
| the_mgt | Genion were the first to use that | 11:16 |
| inte | and probaly the only provider, at least in germany | 11:16 |
| the_mgt | yep | 11:16 |
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| Stskeeps | TMavica: neat | 11:19 |
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| inte | Mikaela: https://oma.elisa.fi/yrityksille/info/tuotteet-ja-palvelut/tuotteet/ring-vaihdepalvelu | 11:21 |
| Mikaela | ok | 11:22 |
| inte | I presume they use that service in your friends company | 11:22 |
| inte | its rather a virtual, cloud based pbx | 11:22 |
| inte | simple call diverts | 11:22 |
| inte | and she maybe even has an app on her phone to use it | 11:22 |
| inte | i read about a similar service elsewhere | 11:22 |
| inte | but in a language I could understand :-) | 11:23 |
| Mikaela | I don't know if it's that because the number always goes to her. I haven't seen app on her phone while being android support | 11:23 |
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| inte | I dont know... Ask her ;) Not even sure if that service requires a dedicated app. | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: got a url for where you found that, ooi? | 11:28 |
| inte | Mikaela: She isnt working for Insta DefSec or Delta Car by coincidence? :) | 11:29 |
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| Mikaela | I don't remember what the place is, but it's near shopping centre Jumbo and she sells everything possible | 11:30 |
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| Tegu | does she sell seashells? | 11:31 |
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| inte | Mikaela: hehe just asking since those are named as reference customers :) | 11:31 |
| TMavica | Stskeeps: from QQ group | 11:32 |
| TMavica | I guess it is a developer device | 11:32 |
| TMavica | Someone sell it | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | dunno | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | does that mean that the jolla tablet is shipping? | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:32 |
| TMavica | Mostly | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | :p | 11:32 |
| TMavica | Is on hand | 11:32 |
| TMavica | He bought from someone | 11:33 |
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| Stskeeps | TMavica: i'm somewhat flattered somebody gets hardware before release outside our normal channels; people must care enough about jolla if so :p | 11:35 |
| cybette | TMavica: is the QQ group public? | 11:37 |
| TMavica | cybette: let me ask ask | 11:38 |
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| TMavica | I get that news from my Jolla hk fd, he just told me that | 11:39 |
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| TMavica | See the pic in my tweet | 11:42 |
| Sail0r | ? | 11:43 |
| Sail0r | which tweet? | 11:43 |
| tadzik | I... don't think this entire channel follows you on twitter | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: you don't? | 11:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:43 |
| lainwir3d | :P | 11:44 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: if I did, I couldn't be sarcastic like that :P | 11:44 |
| Sail0r | https://twitter.com/TMavica/status/641567212956856321 | 11:44 |
| Sail0r | this one i think ;) | 11:44 |
| TMavica | Is someone really sell his developer device, wt will Jolla do? | 11:44 |
| tadzik | oh btw, speaking of Jolla Launcher | 11:45 |
| tadzik | I had an android friend very excited about it, and then after a while very disappointed that he upgraded to that android 5 or whatever that's not supported | 11:45 |
| TMavica | If | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: practically it's not theirs to sell | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | ie not their property | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | same like n950 was | 11:45 |
| tadzik | are there plans to make Launcher available on newer android thing too? | 11:46 |
| cybette | TMavica: they have signed "loan" agreements, devices are not theirs, lots of legal blah blah if they sell ;) | 11:46 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: apis got worse in 5.x | 11:47 |
| TMavica | Developer device is shipped, right? | 11:47 |
| tadzik | :( | 11:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TMavica: maybe | 11:47 |
| coderus | TMavica: can you make a photo closer? | 11:48 |
| TMavica | I dont have, how i make closer.. | 11:48 |
| SfietKonstantinW | TMavica: can you make a photo behind ? | 11:49 |
| Stskeeps | SfietKonstantinW: he doesn't have it, it's from a qq group | 11:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :( | 11:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can ask :) | 11:50 |
| TMavica | cybette: i cap the conversation screen to u | 11:50 |
| coderus | aaah, its not your photo :D | 11:50 |
| TMavica | He is quited | 11:50 |
| cybette | TMavica: great, thanks :) | 11:51 |
| TMavica | If i have, i wont speak out. Lol | 11:52 |
| tadzik | . o O ( there will be blood ) | 11:52 |
| TMavica | Waiy | 11:52 |
| TMavica | Wait. | 11:53 |
| tadzik | so if I update to this unreleased release I'll get a shiny eventsview toggles like that? :P | 11:53 |
| TMavica | I am angry who sell his device | 11:53 |
| lainwir3d | {...} | 11:53 |
| tadzik | （ ｀ー´） | 11:53 |
| lainwir3d | tadzik: unreleased release ? | 11:53 |
| lainwir3d | My mind just blown | 11:53 |
| lainwir3d | infinite loop | 11:54 |
| TMavica | cybette: only you know chinese, how i send you the pic conversation | 11:54 |
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| tadzik | :-D-\-< | 11:54 |
| TMavica | I got it | 11:54 |
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| coderus | tadzik: if you have a tablet yes | 11:55 |
| coderus | tadzik: phone doesnt have enough screen width and sidebar is not shown | 11:55 |
| Nicd- | gonna reset my phone now | 11:55 |
| Nicd- | here goes nothing | 11:55 |
| tadzik | coderus: oh. bummer | 11:56 |
| coderus | you can see it only with homescreen landscape patch and sidebar enabler patch | 11:56 |
| coderus | if activate sidepar in portrait is very ugly and your events will have just 150px width :D | 11:56 |
| tadzik | maybe if I plug in an external display to the phone... :) | 11:57 |
| cybette | TMavica: twitter DM, FB messenger, wechat, email.. | 11:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | cybette is really in the SoMe | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | cybette is -some- | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:58 |
| coderus | tadzik: really, good DIY project, let's go1 | 11:58 |
| TMavica | Any gift i can get if I report this? Lol | 11:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Stskeeps: cybette is a lot :P | 11:58 |
| cybette | :P | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | resetting... | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | ;_; | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: well, i probably have a beverage next time we meet in HK.. :P | 11:58 |
| cybette | well to use SoMe effectively I have to be some :) | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | ;p | 11:58 |
| coderus | Nicd-: why you resetting phone? :D | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | coderus: lots of sync and other problems | 11:59 |
| coderus | :( | 11:59 |
| Nicd- | contacts not syncing, calendar sync broken, android app stores don't work... | 11:59 |
| Nicd- | thought I might as well reset before 1.1.9 ea | 11:59 |
| cybette | TMavica: I'll buy you a round (or few) next time we meet :) | 11:59 |
| tadzik | oh, time for my repost now that everyone's here... | 11:59 |
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| tadzik | this has been happening to my SD every now and then. Should I start looking for a new one already? | 12:00 |
| tadzik | FAT-fs (mmcblk1p1): error, invalid access to FAT (entry 0x080e2013) | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | tadzik: chkdsk it? | 12:00 |
| tadzik | sometimes when I unplug and plug it it works for a few writes | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | if there's no i/o errors | 12:00 |
| tadzik | then remounts ro | 12:00 |
| Stskeeps | that's a fs error, not i/o | 12:00 |
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| tadzik | oh, sounds promising | 12:00 |
| coderus | repartition it to ext if you not using mass storage :) | 12:01 |
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| tadzik | hm, I merely sshfs to it, so that's not a bad idea | 12:02 |
| tadzik | which package is chkdsk in, and can I get it with pkcon? | 12:03 |
| tadzik | search doesn't help me :/ | 12:04 |
| Nicd- | it reset to 1.0.5 and this is so laggy :D | 12:05 |
| tadzik | together seems to indicate that fsck.vfat should be on device, but it isn't on mine | 12:07 |
| TMavica | cybette: i sent you dm in twitter | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | dosfstools | 12:08 |
| tadzik | is there a mer package somewhere? | 12:09 |
| tadzik | pkcon doesn't see it | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | ssu ar mer-tools | 12:09 |
| TMavica | It really is a loan device | 12:10 |
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| tadzik | Stskeeps: still doesn't seem to be there | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | hmm | 12:11 |
| tadzik | I even dit pkcon update and that... installed some stuff :/ | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | pkcon refresh | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:11 |
| tadzik | oh, refresh | 12:11 |
| Stskeeps | not update | 12:11 |
| tadzik | I wonder what it updated :D | 12:12 |
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| tadzik | ok, now it's there, awesome | 12:13 |
| Tofe | you guys do like do start random commands as root, eh | 12:13 |
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| jaacoppi | I love the smell of root in the morning | 12:21 |
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| Shinryuu | I love the smell of my Jolla in the morning | 12:27 |
| TMavica | cybette: ok? | 12:28 |
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| TMavica | Not fast enough to cap his number then he left group. | 12:31 |
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| cybette | TMavica: thanks, he didn't confirm it's a developer loan device though? and he wants to install android on it?? :P | 12:36 |
| Lieke | https://together.jolla.com/question/107684/changelog-119eineheminlampi/ | 12:37 |
| Lieke | ooh | 12:37 |
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| TMavica | Because he is a buyer, just paid the money, how will ask that | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | it's out now?!?! | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | good timing | 12:39 |
| Nicd- | I'm just installing 1.1.7 | 12:39 |
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| Lipevakala | Not yet? | 12:40 |
| cybette | TMavica: yeah.. anyway thanks for the screen caps :) | 12:40 |
| TMavica | I think you got the way to chk it out. Lol | 12:42 |
| cybette | TMavica: yes we're checking :) | 12:45 |
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| TemeV | "up to date" says my Jolla :/ | 12:48 |
| wysiwtf | hm | 12:48 |
| wysiwtf | nice german article, thx for sharing | 12:48 |
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| wysiwtf | apparently the dev/press-tablet arent of the highest build quality | 12:48 |
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| ggabriel | well, that was obvious, and announced iirc | 12:50 |
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| friese | https://together.jolla.com/question/107685/release-notes-119eineheminlampi-early-access/ -> upgrade verson history says today is the day for early access :) | 12:52 |
| ggabriel | \o/ | 12:52 |
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| TMavica | cybette: no need check.. | 12:53 |
| Nicd- | now spamming "check for updates" | 12:53 |
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| TMavica | cybette: 德普華檢測..... | 12:54 |
| flux | cool, dimmed app covers for oom-closed apps | 12:54 |
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| ggabriel | and applications stay where they are open | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | that's cool too, will get a few seconds to get used to though | 12:54 |
| anYc | \o/ | 12:54 |
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| flux | maybe I don't need to start apps after a while | 12:56 |
| Nicd- | it's available! | 12:56 |
| Nicd- | wooooo | 12:56 |
| friese | yup, here too :) | 12:56 |
| flux | the upgrade claims its first victims so soon?! | 12:56 |
| cybette | TMavica: where does it say that? | 12:57 |
| Nicd- | downloading now | 12:57 |
| TMavica | cybette: 佢在QQ group話買，不過睇佢個blog, 佢做德普華檢測，唔知佢轉移視線定點 | 12:57 |
| friese | huh, update is being prepared? thats new... is that a new interface for btrfs-rebalancing or did i simply never notice that before *nervously waiting* | 12:57 |
| urs | I'll download, but wait for the first reports before I actually install it. | 12:58 |
| Stskeeps | anybody else attending HardwareHEL tonight? | 12:58 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: a link in the TJC release notes does not work | 12:58 |
| * Stskeeps points to bijjal | 12:58 | |
| xfade_ | friese: no, it simply calculated the update size for you | 12:58 |
| Nicd- | "Ambience tones now follow global tone settings. You can override global tone settings by adding actions to ambience. Read more to understand the new behaviour better." links to https://drydock-together.jolla.com/question/383/release-notes-119eineheminlampi/#383-ambience-and-global-settings and that requires HTTP auth | 12:58 |
| Nicd- | bijjal: --^ | 12:58 |
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| xfade_ | friese: based on what you have installed vs what is in the repository | 12:58 |
| bijjal | Nicd-: i thought i just fixed it, checking again | 12:59 |
| Nicd- | bijjal: you did :) | 12:59 |
| friese | ah okay, so probably just never noticed that before :) | 12:59 |
| Nicd- | I refreshed and it was fine | 12:59 |
| bijjal | Nicd-: ok :) | 12:59 |
| Nicd- | sorry for the disturbance | 12:59 |
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| friese | ah, theres the familiar optimization starting | 13:01 |
| bijjal | Nicd-: no worries, i should have checked more carefully before posting | 13:01 |
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| friese | and after that just a few more hours of waiting till the new sailfish :) | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | my optimization was over in a few secs | 13:01 |
| Nicd- | benefits of resetting the phone :D | 13:02 |
| friese | :) | 13:02 |
| TemeV | what's the download size of the update? | 13:02 |
| friese | i think my last update took under 5 minutes, i can live with that... | 13:02 |
| minimec | Hi. I just checked for updates and got 'the message' right now. Size is 240MB | 13:03 |
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| cybette | TMavica: you know that's his blog? that he works at 德普華檢測? | 13:05 |
| TemeV | minimec: ok, thanks | 13:06 |
| coderus | so, this leaked tablet picture is for journalist? :D | 13:06 |
| TemeV | my download is not advancing :/ | 13:06 |
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| Nicd- | coderus: what pic? | 13:07 |
| urs | TemeV: that's because we are *all* downloading right now | 13:07 |
| TMavica | cybette: his profile link to there | 13:07 |
| friese | urs: well i'm not *still optimizing* :) | 13:07 |
| TMavica | cybette: u know what i mean i typed in chinese above? | 13:08 |
| Tofe | urs: to all :) I'm waiting to be at home, with a Linux desktop in front of me, just in case :p | 13:08 |
| Tofe | not* | 13:08 |
| anYc | the changelog is huuuge... | 13:08 |
| TemeV | urs: could you all stop downloading so I could get mine... :) | 13:08 |
| friese | maybe it's time for a reset... i dont remember ever having that done since i got my jolla in 2013... | 13:08 |
| Smar | then installing... ;) | 13:08 |
| urs | TemeV: I'm actually done downloading just now | 13:09 |
| Nicd- | done installing! | 13:09 |
| TemeV | so now there should be bandwidth for me too! | 13:09 |
| lainwir3d | not if... i download it too ! | 13:09 |
| cybette | TMavica: roughly... although you use slightly different words in cantonese :) | 13:09 |
| TemeV | nope, nothing happens, still stuck to like 5 first pixels | 13:10 |
| lainwir3d | and my coworker next to me too ! | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | TemeV: get a better connection | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | it was pretty fast for me | 13:10 |
| lainwir3d | just so you can enjoy it better after a long wait TemeV | 13:10 |
| inte | what are you all downloading? No Updates for me yet | 13:10 |
| TemeV | I have 3G with no speed limit | 13:10 |
| xfade_ | TemeV: You can monitor it using pkmon on cli | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | inte: 1.1.9 is in EA | 13:10 |
| urs | inte: 1.1.9 is available for early access | 13:10 |
| inte | cool | 13:10 |
| urs | Nicd-: soo... did it... not destroy your phone? | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | ooh, new tutorial | 13:10 |
| inte | Ill keep refreshing then :) | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | urs: it's alive | 13:10 |
| Nicd- | just booted into new tutorial | 13:10 |
| friese | well, 250mb, shouldn't take more than an hour :) | 13:11 |
| Nicd- | "Here is Lock Screen" :D | 13:11 |
| TemeV | xfade_: thanks | 13:11 |
| Nicd- | that's some finglish | 13:11 |
| Teme | finglish <3 | 13:11 |
| Teme | but that's actually rally driver english, not finglish ;) | 13:11 |
| inte | mh justed doubled checked my accounts profile an i should be in early access | 13:12 |
| xfade_ | TemeV: and otherwise check your journal. The first 10% is actually refreshing all repositories, so if it gets stuck there... | 13:12 |
| Nicd- | hehe, tutorial's phone app has pic of Tomi, who is now our CEO | 13:12 |
| TemeV | there is atleast some actin with pkmon | 13:12 |
| inte | .oO(reboot might be an option, DAU style) | 13:13 |
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| Nicd- | yay, they fixed the call UI pulley menu | 13:14 |
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| Yaniel | here goes | 13:14 |
| TemeV | some failures in logs | 13:15 |
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| TemeV | I'll try a Windows fix | 13:16 |
| TMavica | cybette: yes. Lol | 13:16 |
| Nicd- | hmm | 13:16 |
| Nicd- | dunno if I like the new pulley "you selected something!" effect | 13:16 |
| Nicd- | it's so slow | 13:16 |
| Stskeeps | write your perceptions to tjc | 13:17 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:17 |
| inte | huuu | 13:18 |
| inte | I dont have a device anymore | 13:18 |
| inte | somehow it got dropped from my jolla account | 13:18 |
| ggabriel | inte: buy one? | 13:18 |
| inte | weired | 13:18 |
| inte | hehe | 13:18 |
| inte | i have it in my hand :) | 13:18 |
| inte | oh boy | 13:19 |
| inte | my account is somewhat fucked up | 13:19 |
| xfade_ | inte: just log in on your device again. | 13:19 |
| inte | after i cant login to tjc anymore im now out of devices | 13:19 |
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| Tofe | I like the dimmed app cover idea | 13:20 |
| Nicd- | I thought you were getting rid of the triangle effect that is everywhere | 13:21 |
| inte | hu | 13:21 |
| inte | i just realized i still have two jolla accounts | 13:21 |
| inte | which is wired :) | 13:21 |
| inte | weired | 13:22 |
| inte | haaa | 13:23 |
| inte | NOW I also know how to log back into tjc | 13:23 |
| inte | so i should better have one deleted | 13:23 |
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| TemeV | "Problem with store, could not detect size of update" | 13:27 |
| TemeV | is this bad? | 13:27 |
| ggabriel | maybe too many people downloading :) | 13:28 |
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| xfade_ | TemeV: Try updating your jolla account credentials | 13:28 |
| TemeV | and now I don't have the lake picture anymore | 13:28 |
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| ggabriel | so, was it intentional that 1.1.9 EA is announced the same day as the iNews? | 13:29 |
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| TemeV | xfade_: thanks, that helped | 13:29 |
| Tofe | ggabriel: I sure won't look at the iConference tonight! Better explore the new UI! | 13:30 |
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| urs | ok, update done, works nicely | 13:31 |
| urs | I think a lot of people are going to be extremely annoyed that "quick app closing" is not on by default. | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | i don't have the update | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | and i'm already annoyed | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | :P | 13:32 |
| xfade_ | Hehe, well at least there is a setting for it ;) | 13:32 |
| Smar | urs: it wasn’t the default previously either from what I know about it | 13:32 |
| urs | xfade_: indeed. I approve! | 13:32 |
| Smar | at least wasn’t for me | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | also, that hasn't been the default for a while now ;) | 13:32 |
| ggabriel | the trouble is that the option you had migrated nicely | 13:33 |
| urs | ah, alright | 13:33 |
| ggabriel | 1.1.9 may not migrate that as the UI paradigm changes | 13:33 |
| ggabriel | which kinda makes sense | 13:33 |
| ggabriel | but people will complain | 13:33 |
| urs | ah, so did everybody just close their apps the cumbersome homescreen-way? | 13:33 |
| ggabriel | or wait for oom | 13:33 |
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| Tofe | ggabriel: and prey that the oom chooses the app they didn't intend to use next :) | 13:34 |
| Yaniel | I get lots of "problem with store, <app> is already up to date" | 13:35 |
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| xfade_ | Yaniel: After booting the update? Or when? | 13:35 |
| Yaniel | yes | 13:36 |
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| Yaniel | after booting 1.1.9 | 13:41 |
| inte | urs what is quick app closing? | 13:42 |
| Yaniel | quick app closing is swipe from top | 13:42 |
| inte | well but how do you close apps then? | 13:42 |
| Yaniel | the alternative is tap&hold on homescreen | 13:42 |
| inte | oh | 13:42 |
| kimmoli | enable from settings? | 13:42 |
| Yaniel | that adds close buttons to covers | 13:42 |
| inte | i never use that | 13:43 |
| kimmoli | the swipe to close? | 13:43 |
| inte | yeah i know but thats to complex for me | 13:43 |
| * kimmoli read backlog | 13:43 | |
| inte | i only swipe | 13:43 |
| urs | i never use the homescreen method, I always thought the swipe-from-top is the preferred way | 13:43 |
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| ggabriel | no, that's the pro way | 13:43 |
| urs | the homescreen method seems like an afterthought | 13:43 |
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| inte | well but its just a setting i presume | 13:43 |
| ggabriel | the l33t way is open terminal and kill ofc | 13:43 |
| ggabriel | it's a setting indeed | 13:43 |
| ggabriel | it's been for a while | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | thanks to ios/android users | 13:44 |
| urs | It's also the reason why I can't use android phones anymore | 13:44 |
| inte | ggabriel: never recogniced but the terminal way is defineatly the way to do it :) | 13:44 |
| kimmoli | systemctl --user restart lipstick is the killall of all killalls | 13:44 |
| urs | I permanently try to edge-swipe everything | 13:44 |
| inte | hehe | 13:44 |
| urs | kimmoli: did you mean: ctrl+alt+backspace? | 13:44 |
| kimmoli | yes, but someone mentioned cli | 13:45 |
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| kimmoli | i managed to get my phone in state where edge swipes were working and home, but no touches in apps. ctrl-alt-backspace ftw | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | oh yeah, me too | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | and i have a keyboard now | 13:46 |
| ggabriel | i'm looking forward to doing that again | 13:46 |
| lainwir3d | yeah, happened to me several times | 13:46 |
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| inte | still dont have the update but i only just hit the switch in my profile settings | 13:48 |
| inte | probably takes some time | 13:48 |
| coderus | oh loook, did not enabled ea for 1.1.7.x and when 1.1.9.x is available users started to use it :D | 13:49 |
| TemeV | can I skip the tutorial somehow? | 13:50 |
| Yaniel | tap all corners in clockwise order? | 13:51 |
| TemeV | doesn't work :/ | 13:51 |
| Lipevakala | Me like. Some learning to do. (Changes background all the time) | 13:51 |
| Tofe | Do the Konami code ? ;) | 13:52 |
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| ggabriel | no phones bricked yet? | 13:52 |
| * ggabriel impressed... | 13:52 | |
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| inte | coderus: I had it enabled for quite some time, even when it was only possible to be enabled through this notorious list from tjc. I seem to have had some hassles with my account and now I rather reenabled it :-) | 13:54 |
| the_mgt | btw, I read on http://sailfishmods.de/wordpress/2015/09/sailfish-os-2-0-v1-1-9-27-eineheminlampi-kleiner-einblick/ that the guy is using ICQ | 13:56 |
| coderus | yeah, seems jolla updated account webpage to new style and decided to drop some accounts info just for fun :) | 13:56 |
| the_mgt | I only found ages old rpms, is there a recent, hasslefree way to get it up and running? | 13:56 |
| Nicd- | hehe, store is down | 13:57 |
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| Stskeeps | xfade_: ^ | 13:57 |
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| coderus | the_mgt: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/icq-account | 13:57 |
| Nicd- | general communication problem with the store server | 13:57 |
| Nicd- | maybe overloaded? | 13:57 |
| pp_ | hehe, was just going to comment "here, store is down" | 13:57 |
| xfade_ | works for me ;) | 13:57 |
| pp_ | hehe, even. | 13:57 |
| the_mgt | coderus: nice, very nice. thank you very much | 13:58 |
| the_mgt | now, does it work with OTR? | 13:59 |
| coderus | of course no | 13:59 |
| Yaniel | still no cover art for flacs :( | 13:59 |
| TemeV | Nicd-: I get that error too but store still works | 14:01 |
| Nicd- | didn't even load for me | 14:01 |
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| the_mgt | whoa, the bug is old enough to go to school, meanwhile | 14:02 |
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| urs | ok, first bug in 1.1.9 I see: when charging, the phone keeps playing the "charger connected" sound for every percent increase in battery charge | 14:12 |
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| Nicd- | doesn't do it for me | 14:14 |
| xfade_ | Now that is a nice feature :) | 14:14 |
| urs | Onl noticed it for the last 3% tho. | 14:15 |
| urs | Maybe it actually is a feature, saying "I am now fully charged"? | 14:15 |
| coderus | urs: no | 14:15 |
| coderus | it charged to 100 then drop to 95 or so and start charging again | 14:16 |
| coderus | maybe you discharge it very fast | 14:16 |
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| Nicd- | damn urs, now it did it 3 times | 14:17 |
| Nicd- | while at 100 % | 14:17 |
| xfade_ | Might be because your alien is running dexopt on a lot of apks. This is quite intensive work. | 14:17 |
| Nicd- | the phone is doing nothing (alien not installed) | 14:17 |
| Nicd- | and it was locked | 14:17 |
| urs | Nicd-: yep, exactly the same here. | 14:18 |
| xfade_ | tracker on images? | 14:18 |
| Nicd- | well I have no photos | 14:19 |
| Nicd- | I just reset so there's not really anything on the device | 14:19 |
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| Nicd- | just waiting for store to wake up so I can get developer mode | 14:21 |
| Nicd- | ooh, it's alive | 14:21 |
| coderus | anyway, you should ignore all bugs first 2-6 hours after upgrade, then reboot and start reporting bugs :) | 14:23 |
| * ggabriel waiting for first "battery drain" report | 14:25 | |
| coderus | ggabriel: be first, create your own! | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | oh, i'm not EA | 14:26 |
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| ggabriel | but I could report anyway that battery drains a lot!!! how is this possible!! | 14:26 |
| Nicd- | yeeeeees! my TOHKBD has åäö! | 14:28 |
| Nicd- | <3 | 14:28 |
| anYc | battery drain looks normal here | 14:28 |
| Smar | don’t really care about å, but yes ;) | 14:28 |
| ggabriel | point is: it'll never be normal | 14:28 |
| Kabouik | Ok guys, my early-update failed and the Jolla does not boot anymore. I'm in recovery mode, mounted mmcblk0p28 so I can browse my filesystem. How can I save my .vault? I have no working microSD. | 14:28 |
| Nicd- | first brick? | 14:29 |
| ggabriel | indeed | 14:29 |
| kimmoli | scp to pc? | 14:29 |
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| Kabouik | I'm telnet-ing with Linux kimmoli | 14:30 |
| kimmoli | scp works from jolla, iirc | 14:30 |
| Kabouik | I'm not sure what you mean I should do exactly | 14:30 |
| kimmoli | tar the vault and scp it to your pc | 14:31 |
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| * gexc_ waiting for the optimization... :-/ | 14:32 | |
| Kabouik | Well, apparently my /mnt/rootfs (where mmcblk0p28 was mounted)/home is empty | 14:32 |
| Kabouik | So that should "solve" the .vault save problem | 14:33 |
| coderus | Kabouik: -o subvolid=0 | 14:33 |
| xfade_ | Kabouik: it is empty because home is mounted there | 14:33 |
| ggabriel | uhm... | 14:33 |
| ggabriel | yeah, make sure you mount the right subvol | 14:33 |
| Kabouik | Thanks coderus, better! | 14:34 |
| xfade_ | Kabouik: A lot of useful tips in this post: https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/ | 14:35 |
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| Kabouik | I read that already coderus: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202514138 | 14:35 |
| Kabouik | Problem is the backup procedure implies a SD | 14:36 |
| xfade_ | You can probably use nc to copy a tarball out. | 14:36 |
| ggabriel | Kabouik: did you not have the same issue the last time? bricked device + non working sd? | 14:36 |
| Kabouik | I've had all sorts of issues :> | 14:37 |
| Kabouik | But never both at the same time (my SD died last time I came here, but the device was not bricked, and I just happen to have no SD anymore now) | 14:37 |
| ggabriel | I'd have sworn that you promised to get a microsd card after you came back from holidays | 14:37 |
| ggabriel | but i may be wrong ;) | 14:37 |
| Kabouik | It's under progress, I'm discussing with the website I bought it on for an exchange actually | 14:37 |
| urs | btw, just as I tried to use the phone app, I noticed: the top line of apps is no longer displayed straight on the home screen. | 14:38 |
| urs | You now have to scroll down to start them. | 14:38 |
| urs | Which also means that the bottommost line of apps is now on the second page | 14:40 |
| urs | Also, there doesn't seem to be a way on the homescreen to see what network operator the phone is connected to | 14:41 |
| Kabouik | I don't have scp installed on the jolla apparently kimmoli :( | 14:41 |
| kimmoli | höh | 14:42 |
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| Wnt | Kabouik: it should be provided by openssh-clients and I think that comes with developer-mode. did you not have developer mode enabled before starting the update? | 14:44 |
| Kabouik | Yes, I did | 14:44 |
| Wnt | what does "file /usr/bin/scp" say? | 14:45 |
| Kabouik | Ok, scp appears when I chroot into /mnt/rootfs, but for some reason, I can't chroot when mmcblk0p28 is mounted with -o subvolid=0... So I can only chroot and have an empty /home | 14:45 |
| locusf | hmm does world of pain await if I didn't update to 1.1.7.28? | 14:48 |
| Kabouik | I got internet access in recovery mode using my PC as router, I can ping Google. Is there a command line a could use to try again updating Sailfish, before attempting the .vault backup and factory reset? | 14:48 |
| xfade_ | locusf: you need to go through 1.1.7.28 before the update is offered. | 14:51 |
| locusf | xfade_: roger | 14:51 |
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| Kabouik | No command line to attempt SFOS update then? :( | 14:55 |
| coderus | Kabouik: mount sys and chroot to rootfs | 14:55 |
| coderus | and try something | 14:55 |
| Kabouik | Done it coderus, I'm chrooted, with /proc, /sus and /dev/pts mounted | 14:56 |
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| Kabouik | But /home is still empty for some reason (and if I mount rootfs with -o subvolid=0, then /home is not empty, but I can't chroot) | 14:56 |
| coderus | mount @home to rootfs/home yourself | 14:57 |
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| coderus | but probably you do not need home to test sailfish upgrade | 14:57 |
| Kabouik | Yep, it would be for the .vault backup if the sailfish upgrade fails again, you're right | 14:58 |
| coderus | btw, its better for you to enable persistent journal, reboot, reboot to recovery again and post to us yur log | 14:58 |
| Kabouik | Sure, but I've no idea how to enable persistent journal | 14:59 |
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| Kabouik | https://together.jolla.com/question/4842/how-to-enable-more-detailed-and-persistent-logs-on-jolla-device/ I guess | 15:00 |
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| coderus | + def unpadV2Plaintext(self, v2plaintext): | 15:02 |
| coderus | + if len(v2plaintext) < 128: | 15:02 |
| coderus | + return v2plaintext[2:-1] | 15:02 |
| coderus | + else: # < 128 * 128 | 15:02 |
| coderus | oh | 15:02 |
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| coderus | what a clipboard | 15:02 |
| coderus | Change Storage=volatile -->> Storage=persistent (or automatic) | 15:02 |
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| coderus | Also set SystemMaxUse=50M limit for log | 15:02 |
| Kabouik | It's done coderus, I'm currently reenabling internet access | 15:05 |
| Kabouik | Done | 15:06 |
| coderus | rebooted to normal and reproduced boot stuck? | 15:07 |
| Kabouik | Hum. No. :o | 15:07 |
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| coderus | :D | 15:08 |
| Kabouik | It's rebooting in normal mode. :] I just get a black screen by the way, and don't reach the Pin code page | 15:08 |
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| Tofe | coderus: you already tried the 1.1.9 update? Wondering if the sdcard data-mount still works as well as on 1.1.7 | 15:13 |
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| Tofe | Anyway now that there is no more script modification, I'm more confident with updates | 15:14 |
| Kabouik | Is there a specific journalctl command you'd like me to run coderus? The logs seems quite long, I'm dying pressing "More" :p | 15:15 |
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| coderus | Tofe: i'm on 1.1.9.x for a long time | 15:20 |
| coderus | no much android side changes, so it works | 15:20 |
| coderus | Kabouik: log should be now in /var/log/journal afaik | 15:21 |
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| Tofe | coderus: ok great | 15:23 |
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| Kabouik | I have a system.journal in /var/log/journal/8c18df265cf548b49e0dcbbc930bae3c, but nano only shows a bunch of @àầ@à^^-like characters. | 15:27 |
| coderus | yeah you need to read it with journalctl... | 15:28 |
| coderus | next challenge :D | 15:28 |
| coderus | probably journalctl -D /var/lib/journal -a | 15:29 |
| flux | strings ;) | 15:29 |
| coderus | try if works | 15:29 |
| flux | not sure if jolla comes with it, though, probably not.. | 15:29 |
| narchie | rip jolla mardillon | 15:30 |
| narchie | jolla is over | 15:30 |
| Kabouik | /var/log/journal you mean coderus? It still is extremely long, don't know what part to show you | 15:31 |
| coderus | Kabouik: yeah | 15:32 |
| coderus | > journal.txt | 15:32 |
| coderus | and paste to some service | 15:32 |
| Kabouik | Problem is I don't know how to transfer files from the Jolla in recovery mode to the PC | 15:33 |
| coderus | narchie: /quit | 15:33 |
| coderus | Kabouik: nc ? | 15:33 |
| Kabouik | ? | 15:33 |
| coderus | netcat | 15:33 |
| coderus | ot | 15:33 |
| TemeV | just print it to screen and copy paste from terminal | 15:33 |
| coderus | you have internet | 15:33 |
| coderus | you can curl file to paste directly | 15:33 |
| Kabouik | No TemeV, it's like 1505050003037381 lines long, and requires me to press "-MORE-" to display more, I don't even reach an end | 15:34 |
| TemeV | oh... | 15:34 |
| TemeV | then scp or what ever | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | that number is keyboard rage | 15:34 |
| Kabouik | It's very accurate ggabriel! | 15:35 |
| Kabouik | The number. Or the rage. | 15:35 |
| ggabriel | https://m.xkcd.com/1530/ | 15:35 |
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| coderus | curl -v --data-urlencode "content@/my/filename" -d "poster=JohnDoe" -d "syntax=text" http://paste.ubuntu.com | 15:37 |
| coderus | should work | 15:38 |
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| coderus | yeah tested, works | 15:38 |
| coderus | you know, linux cli is very cool :) | 15:38 |
| coderus | in most of cases you dont ever need to install anything additional :D | 15:39 |
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| Kabouik | I know CLI is cool, I enjoy using R at work... But CLI is always better when you know a bit of it | 15:41 |
| Kabouik | I don't know much about Linux CLI, just the very basic stuff | 15:41 |
| coderus | me too, but i know google :) | 15:42 |
| Kabouik | Now I need to find the URL out of the curl command you advised :o | 15:42 |
| PeperJohnny | for everything else theres google :D | 15:42 |
| coderus | Kabouik: in Location: | 15:42 |
| Kabouik | I've like a trillion tabs opened and did not investigate curl yet, I was with scp :p | 15:42 |
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| Kabouik | Ok, there was - obviously - something wrong in my command, hence no "Location:" but instead a bunch of html-like code | 15:48 |
| Kabouik | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12321598/ | 15:49 |
| coderus | Kabouik: and now tell time when you tried to boot :D | 15:50 |
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| Kabouik | Well just after I enabled the journal :o | 15:50 |
| Kabouik | the persistent* journal | 15:50 |
| Kabouik | There's a reboot on line 928 coderus | 15:51 |
| coderus | /usr/bin/lipstick: error while loading shared libraries: libdsme_dbus_if.so.0.2.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory | 15:51 |
| coderus | this one probably | 15:51 |
| coderus | your lipstick is not upgraded | 15:52 |
| Kabouik | (I've just found some N900 stuff in the log: Sep 09 17:02:11 Jolla ofonod[744]: Excluding Nokia N900 modem driver) :o | 15:53 |
| coderus | there is /usr/lib/libdsme_dbus_if.so.0.3.0 in 1.1.9.28 | 15:53 |
| coderus | chroot to sailfish | 15:53 |
| Kabouik | I think the upgrade failed in the middle coderus, maybe there are other things that are not properly installed? | 15:53 |
| coderus | and zypper in -f lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 15:53 |
| Kabouik | can I install zypper with pkcon? | 15:54 |
| Wnt | yes | 15:54 |
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| Kabouik | bash-3.2# pkcon install zypper | 15:55 |
| Kabouik | Failed to contact PackageKit: Could not connect: Connection refused (but if I ping google.com, it works) | 15:55 |
| coderus | failed to connect to socket | 15:55 |
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| Wnt | can packagekit be started using systemctl? | 15:56 |
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| coderus | Kabouik: https://dvvwui2qyedk6.cloudfront.net/releases/1.1.9.28/jolla/armv7hl//non-oss/armv7hl/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 15:58 |
| coderus | install with rpm | 15:58 |
| Kabouik | I need to transfer it to jolla first :o Here comes a new challenge :o | 15:59 |
| coderus | curl | 15:59 |
| Kabouik | Ah, yes, of course | 15:59 |
| coderus | curl -O https://dvvwui2qyedk6.cloudfront.net/releases/1.1.9.28/jolla/armv7hl/non-oss/armv7hl/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 15:59 |
| Kabouik | https://dvvwui2qyedk6.cloudfront.net/releases/1.1.9.28/jolla/armv7hl//non-oss/armv7hl/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl.rpm same error though | 16:00 |
| Kabouik | bash-3.2# pkcon install-local lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 16:00 |
| Kabouik | Failed to contact PackageKit: Could not connect: Connection refused | 16:00 |
| coderus | install with rpm | 16:00 |
| Kabouik | Ah, thought you only refered to the file by that | 16:01 |
| coderus | :) | 16:01 |
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| Kabouik | I have missing dependencies | 16:01 |
| coderus | which ones? | 16:02 |
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| Kabouik | Sorry, someone knocked on the door coderus | 16:06 |
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| Kabouik | bash-3.2# rpm --install lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl.rpm | 16:06 |
| Kabouik | warning: lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl.rpm: Header V3 DSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID f2633ee0: NOKEY | 16:06 |
| Kabouik | error: Failed dependencies: | 16:06 |
| Kabouik | jolla-settings-system >= 0.3.26 is needed by lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl | 16:06 |
| Kabouik | lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-components = 0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla is needed by lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.28.7.34-10.101.3.jolla.armv7hl | 16:06 |
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| Kabouik | Maybe we should go in MP not to disturb the channel? | 16:07 |
| Kabouik | PM* | 16:07 |
| coderus | okay | 16:07 |
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| pdanek | Hey guys, | 16:14 |
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| pdanek | I have signed for early access today. | 16:14 |
| pdanek | Tried to reboot my phone and also remove / readd Jolla account. | 16:14 |
| coderus | wait | 16:14 |
| pdanek | Yet still not getting SF2 update available. | 16:14 |
| coderus | just sit and wait | 16:15 |
| pdanek | cheers :) | 16:15 |
| ggabriel | http://i.imgur.com/bdYtW.gif | 16:15 |
| pdanek | :D | 16:15 |
| ggabriel | that one is quite popular today | 16:15 |
| haBuu | it would be nice if the events page would show next days events after todays have been finished | 16:16 |
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| pdanek | Marc Dillan has talk soon | 16:17 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | pdanek: where ? | 16:21 |
| SfietKonstantinW | there is also the apple show tonight | 16:21 |
| cb400f | apple show? ... 1.1.9 early access stole the thunder already ;-) | 16:22 |
| Whippler | time to consider other phones now since the new ui is fed up | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | apple is changing everything. again | 16:22 |
| ggabriel | now they'll have <drums/> double tap to unlock! | 16:23 |
| r0kk3rz | i liked the last iphone reveal | 16:23 |
| ggabriel | the same as android, but in a proper apple device! | 16:23 |
| r0kk3rz | "the first iphone was revolutionary, and this is just as revolutionary...............its got a bigger screen!" | 16:23 |
| ggabriel | mind.blown | 16:23 |
| r0kk3rz | the language they use is hilarious | 16:23 |
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| Yaniel | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx7v815bYUw | 16:26 |
| Yaniel | 'nuff said | 16:26 |
| pdanek | SfietKonstantinW:: http://www.eventbrite.com/e/hardwarehel-presents-dawn-of-the-devices-tickets-18364444548 | 16:29 |
| r0kk3rz | Yaniel: these apple speakers seem to have a low sense of credibility | 16:30 |
| r0kk3rz | since everything is 'incredible' | 16:30 |
| pdanek | :D:D | 16:31 |
| Yaniel | haha | 16:31 |
| pdanek | Is there a stream to watch? | 16:31 |
| pdanek | oh, starting in 30 min, cool | 16:32 |
| pdanek | http://www.apple.com/apple-events/september-2015/ | 16:32 |
| pdanek | now they support Microsoft Edge browser, wowwww | 16:32 |
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| pdanek | Hell is freezing. | 16:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | microsoft does seem to be bringing their A-Game with Edge | 16:35 |
| r0kk3rz | shame they're destroying everything else... | 16:36 |
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| r0kk3rz | after their recent shennanigans i think i'll say goodbye to windows 8 | 16:37 |
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| Tofe | ... and another flawless update, all good since dec. 2013 :) | 16:48 |
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| zebbiz_pi | Tofe: That's good news :) | 16:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | taking an age to download though | 16:51 |
| Tofe | r0kk3rz: yes, almost 10min here | 16:52 |
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| r0kk3rz | mines been going since i came home | 16:52 |
| r0kk3rz | so, a good 30min maybe | 16:53 |
| TMavica | There is many chinese char bugs in 1.1.9 | 16:53 |
| Yaniel | chinese car bugs? | 16:54 |
| Tofe | The store is just a bit confused, some apps that were to be updated are already up to date; but it doesn't seem to be critical. | 16:54 |
| TMavica | chinese character | 16:59 |
| TMavica | font | 16:59 |
| Yaniel | oh | 16:59 |
| Tofe | For the calendar events, what does it show ? Only today's events ? | 17:00 |
| coderus | today | 17:01 |
| Tofe | That's a pity | 17:01 |
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| TMavica | Apple really damn crazy.. | 17:20 |
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| Nicd- | ooh, apple discovered split screen in iOS9 | 17:23 |
| Nicd- | lawsuits incoming for jolla in 3... 2... 1... :P | 17:23 |
| pdanek | I thought I heard laser shark | 17:23 |
| pdanek | but he said laser sharp... damnit | 17:24 |
| Yaniel | definitely said laser shark text | 17:24 |
| Yaniel | but it's just text | 17:24 |
| pdanek | did he? | 17:24 |
| Nicd- | pdanek: razor sharp I think | 17:24 |
| pdanek | pff | 17:25 |
| pdanek | and they call that innovation | 17:25 |
| pdanek | http://texasfishingforum.com/forums/pics/usergals/2014/06/full-90342-16369-shark.jpg | 17:27 |
| pdanek | iPad killer | 17:27 |
| TMavica | ipad pro......damn big and heavy, why not i buy a mac air | 17:28 |
| TMavica | it call iboard | 17:28 |
| Yaniel | MS tried this years ago | 17:28 |
| Yaniel | with the surface... desk | 17:28 |
| TMavica | connect a keyboard = surface pro | 17:29 |
| r0kk3rz | i always wanted a surfacedesk | 17:29 |
| TMavica | damn large smart cover...LOL | 17:29 |
| Yaniel | connec a _smart_ keyboard | 17:29 |
| r0kk3rz | they looked cool | 17:29 |
| Yaniel | and it looks exactly like all tablet keyboards I've ever seen | 17:30 |
| pdanek | smart connectors, keyboard attached by magnets | 17:30 |
| pdanek | dirkvl should sue them | 17:30 |
| pdanek | oh TMavica here | 17:30 |
| Nicd- | a pen! | 17:31 |
| Nicd- | amazing! | 17:31 |
| Yaniel | Pencil | 17:32 |
| sjtoik | :D | 17:32 |
| Yaniel | such innovation | 17:32 |
| Nicd- | hehehe | 17:32 |
| Mikaela | that looks like green apple here | 17:32 |
| sjtoik | wonder if they will introduce an eraser also | 17:32 |
| Nicd- | Yaniel: note: the apple char is not portable | 17:32 |
| Yaniel | what does it show up as elsewhere? | 17:32 |
| Mikaela | oh, it probably comes from font-awesome | 17:32 |
| TMavica | i really want laugh | 17:33 |
| Mikaela | something random depending on what font it is or whom from, it's unicode private use area if I recall correctly | 17:33 |
| Yaniel | soo... wacom lawsuit when? | 17:33 |
| TMavica | it is surface pro definely | 17:33 |
| TMavica | pencil.. | 17:34 |
| sjtoik | that writing and drawing stuff was something they nerfed in newer models and software had to do some magic guessing work to interpret user inputs | 17:34 |
| Nicd- | this guy calls everything amazing | 17:34 |
| Yaniel | of course | 17:34 |
| TMavica | i wonder when have apple condom | 17:34 |
| Yaniel | this is an apple show | 17:35 |
| Yaniel | TMavica: with social media integrat-- | 17:35 |
| Nicd- | tinder integration | 17:35 |
| pdanek | wow | 17:35 |
| pdanek | now hell must be freezing | 17:35 |
| pdanek | no way | 17:35 |
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| Nicd- | pdanek: ? | 17:35 |
| Nicd- | ohhhhhh | 17:36 |
| Yaniel | something amazing coming up clearly | 17:36 |
| Nicd- | :D | 17:36 |
| TMavica | i remember SJ ever said pencil is ridiculous | 17:36 |
| Nicd- | microsoft | 17:36 |
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| Yaniel | what | 17:36 |
| TMavica | copying mircosoft | 17:36 |
| Yaniel | this is not even copying | 17:36 |
| Nicd- | well, ms office did start its life on a mac | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | TMavica: apple are pioneering renewable energy based on the SJ Dynamo | 17:37 |
| r0kk3rz | i think they're close to break even point | 17:37 |
| TMavica | SJ ever said in 2007: Who wants a stylus? | 17:37 |
| Nicd- | "cannot connect to server" :D | 17:38 |
| Yaniel | that bobbing camera | 17:38 |
| Yaniel | so shaky | 17:38 |
| Nicd- | no microsoft demo without demo effect | 17:39 |
| sjtoik | wonder what happens to keynote and other apple equivalent stuff, if they are pushing office | 17:39 |
| TMavica | https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/1iVwIBIN/120124_TECH_StylusApple.jpg | 17:40 |
| sjtoik | spot on | 17:41 |
| Yaniel | so now it's again "there's an app for that" | 17:41 |
| r0kk3rz | is apple trying to leverage their 'creative professional' angle | 17:43 |
| r0kk3rz | although im not sure how true it is anymore | 17:43 |
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| Yaniel | well, they have been focusing on other things maybe a bit too much recently | 17:43 |
| Yaniel | gotta compensate for that | 17:44 |
| sjtoik | dick slip maybe? | 17:46 |
| pdanek | Is gray color somewhat typical for space? | 17:49 |
| pdanek | Why space gray? | 17:49 |
| TMavica | 2x ApplePencil = 1 JollaTablet | 17:50 |
| pp_ | keynote etc. went free (and got dumbed down already) | 17:51 |
| Yaniel | I somehow doubt that 10h battery life | 17:51 |
| pp_ | mac office is pretty ok anyway | 17:52 |
| pp_ | ... except that you get a critical update every two weeks | 17:52 |
| sjtoik | did they? | 17:52 |
| sjtoik | well, haven't been using anyway. office updates are annoyanse though. everything is critical. | 17:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | aaaaaaah its all different | 17:54 |
| r0kk3rz | all my muscle memory is wrooong | 17:54 |
| Yaniel | that'll fix itself soon enough | 17:54 |
| r0kk3rz | i know :) | 17:56 |
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| Yaniel | yet another iOS fork | 18:09 |
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| sjtoik | any freebsd in there still? | 18:10 |
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| pdanek | watchOS, tvOS | 18:10 |
| pdanek | someone is creative | 18:10 |
| sjtoik | or what ever bsd it was | 18:10 |
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| Yaniel | darvin? | 18:11 |
| Yaniel | *Darwin | 18:11 |
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| TMavica | I saw two nipples... | 18:17 |
| pdanek | :D | 18:19 |
| pdanek | I see them again now. | 18:19 |
| pdanek | the red shirt man | 18:19 |
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| Yaniel | "[the remote] can even control the volume"! | 18:24 |
| Yaniel | now that's some groundbreaking engineering | 18:24 |
| zebbiz_pi | WOW | 18:24 |
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| Yaniel | the narration of these videos reminds me of portal 2 | 18:31 |
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| pdanek | 3D Touch | 18:34 |
| pdanek | that's actually cool | 18:34 |
| pdanek | BlackBerry had this years ago, but Apple made it work well. | 18:34 |
| Yaniel | pulley menus! | 18:37 |
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| pp_ | heh, some sailfishy concepts there yes | 18:40 |
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| Yaniel | looks like they ported quicklook too | 18:41 |
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| Yaniel | makes me wonder why they didn't do that sooner | 18:41 |
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| Sail0r | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/COeTbIkWoAAbWGJ.png | 18:50 |
| Sail0r | we need this | 18:50 |
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| pdanek | Sail0r: actually we do | 18:54 |
| pdanek | true multitasking needs memory | 18:54 |
| pdanek | I tend to run a lot of apps on my Jolla | 18:54 |
| pdanek | and it gets really laggy | 18:54 |
| Yaniel | sbj2 with that | 18:54 |
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| Yaniel | doesn't even need a faster cpu (at least not much) | 18:55 |
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| sjtoik | omg, a moving picture! | 18:57 |
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| pdanek | Smart. | 19:01 |
| pdanek | How they visually hide the high price by showing the installment plan prices and then small text on the bottom (24 month installment plan) | 19:01 |
| pdanek | :D | 19:01 |
| attah | wohoo! all of 40MB ram free after update, that's twice from before :P | 19:02 |
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| Nicd- | attah: free RAM is supposed to be close to 0 | 19:05 |
| Nicd- | free memory is wasted memory | 19:05 |
| sjtoik | yo siri! show me some porn | 19:05 |
| attah | Nicd-: well.. maybe, but it nukes any android app if i happen to load the wrong kind of webpage | 19:06 |
| attah | and the seemingly infinite list of stuff that takes 1-2% surely doesn't help? | 19:06 |
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| Nicd- | attah: depends on what you count as free | 19:12 |
| Nicd- | there should be next to none really free memory. but at the same time there should be plenty of space to allocate new memory (from caches and buffers) | 19:12 |
| attah | Nicd-: Well.. as long as oom don't slay the *only* other app i was using i'd be happy as a clam | 19:13 |
| attah | and after such event the total usage is only really changed by what was slain.. | 19:14 |
| attah | but as you pointed out.. i have no idea how it is counting | 19:15 |
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| pdanek | Did Marc already explain why he left? | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | does he have to? | 19:34 |
| Stskeeps | saw him tonight, he did a great talk on the future of mobile with strong passion | 19:35 |
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| Stskeeps | think he'll do awesome things for a lot of startups in finland | 19:35 |
| pdanek | He doesn't, but he became an image of the company, sort of. | 19:35 |
| pdanek | So people expected it., | 19:36 |
| pdanek | Stskeeps: I tried to look for stream, but seems offline talk., | 19:36 |
| pdanek | Is there a recording from it? | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | the company is as much that of the engineers, designers, testers, etc that have pulled each of their area forward as it's that of the shareholders and the founders | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | we were all on stage in the first slush, don't forget :) | 19:37 |
| Stskeeps | then some people took care of the image as well, we can't all be along all the time :) | 19:38 |
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| pdanek | https://pivotce.com/2015/09/07/luneos-september-stable-release-cafe-de-olla/ | 19:40 |
| pdanek | LuneOS makes progress every month. | 19:40 |
| Stskeeps | http://i.ytimg.com/vi/bdLUJZR078k/maxresdefault.jpg | 19:41 |
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| pdanek | ya, got it | 19:41 |
| lpotter | minus a few privateers | 19:45 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, true | 19:47 |
| Stskeeps | brisbane guys weren't along | 19:47 |
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| pdanek | The internet seems dead on information about new Intex | 19:49 |
| pdanek | everyithing became quiet | 19:49 |
| pdanek | is it still a thing? | 19:49 |
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| HarhaanJohtaja | from Jolla's roadmap: | 19:49 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | .Intex device related adaptation: .Backlight, sensors, thermal limits and RTC | 19:49 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | .Package dhd | 19:49 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | .Audio and resource policies | 19:49 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | from august | 19:50 |
| pdanek | right | 19:50 |
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| pdanek | hopefully there will be 2G+ memory version | 19:51 |
| pdanek | not just that copy of Jolla specs | 19:51 |
| pdanek | Thanks Harhaan | 19:53 |
| pdanek | I actually travel to India around 8th of November | 19:55 |
| pdanek | for about week | 19:55 |
| pdanek | but I guess it's little too early :( | 19:56 |
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| pdanek2 | Those intexes should be announced in November or released in November? | 20:10 |
| pdanek2 | or, they were announced huh | 20:11 |
| pdanek2 | I'm wondering whether I should postpone my vacation by a week | 20:11 |
| pdanek2 | to manage to buy it in India | 20:11 |
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| cb400f | this article says release in november: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/intex-and-jolla-announce-partnership-first-sailfish-os-20-powered-mobile-still-a-few-months-away-716008 | 20:14 |
| cb400f | ... of course there are _always_ delays | 20:14 |
| cb400f | also I believe that snapdeal is online purchase only, which might complicate things | 20:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | i think im sending the propertychanged signal a bit too eagerly | 20:32 |
| r0kk3rz | but lockscreen controls work | 20:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | hmm actually, maybe its a change in qtmultimedia | 20:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | as its happning in my ui as well | 20:37 |
| prometoys | hi, i forgot to disable patchmanager before the update, now i cant remove the calendar lockscreen patch | 20:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | you can forcibly remove them i think | 20:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | not sure i like this whole statusbar thing though, i kinda got used to it not being there demanding my attention | 20:39 |
| prometoys | r0kk3rz where I need to look for this. | 20:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | prometoys: its command line stuff afaik, i dont use patch manager so i cant remember specifics | 20:40 |
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| prometoys | are the tweets accessible in the event view? I initially saw an event about retweets, but nothing more | 20:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | prometoys: its broken until next release | 20:43 |
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| prometoys | r0kk3rz thanks for the hint. I read it on tjc now, too | 20:55 |
| r0kk3rz | hmm something has changed with qtmultimedia, its not picking up artist names anymore | 20:56 |
| r0kk3rz | something to investigate | 20:57 |
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| pdanek | Do you guys the new gestures and navigation? | 20:57 |
| pdanek | like* | 20:57 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: still in shock | 20:57 |
| r0kk3rz | need at least a day or two | 20:57 |
| pdanek | 4-app row is gone | 21:00 |
| pdanek | I've used it! | 21:00 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah that makes it a bit of a pain to you'know, call people n shit | 21:02 |
| r0kk3rz | but who does that anymore | 21:02 |
| pdanek | I don't like it | 21:03 |
| r0kk3rz | the whole 'only pop up wihen homescreen is empty' is a little odd as well | 21:03 |
| r0kk3rz | should always be able to pop up | 21:03 |
| pdanek | my homescreen is never empty | 21:04 |
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| r0kk3rz | mine is rarely empty | 21:04 |
| r0kk3rz | but i'm sure they will change more things later | 21:05 |
| pdanek | changinmg to silent mode doesn't work with one move anymore | 21:05 |
| pdanek | have to pull the whole shit down | 21:05 |
| pdanek | and then click | 21:05 |
| pdanek | what is thisss | 21:05 |
| Yaniel | or just hold volume down until the phone vibrates | 21:05 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah im going to have to nuke that somehow | 21:06 |
| r0kk3rz | not quite sure how im going to manage that | 21:06 |
| r0kk3rz | but we will see | 21:06 |
| pdanek | and that profiles... change my ambience | 21:06 |
| Tomin | I think that the four first app icons could somehow lock to the bottom of the screen when they are pulled up. Then I wouldn't have to try to reach them at the top of the screen. | 21:06 |
| pdanek | I don't want anyone touch my background | 21:06 |
| r0kk3rz | profiles = ambiances | 21:06 |
| r0kk3rz | but i dont need buttons on the side of my phone to mess with my ringtone settings | 21:07 |
| pdanek | ah ok | 21:07 |
| chem|st | pdanek: press and hold vol down is the new silent | 21:07 |
| r0kk3rz | if my phones on silent profile thing, newsflash, i want my phone to be silent | 21:07 |
| Yaniel | if I got it right there are two silences now, temporary and profile | 21:08 |
| chem|st | ambiences are now actions applied only once, settings does change current settings now | 21:08 |
| pdanek | and now | 21:08 |
| chem|st | Yaniel: only one | 21:08 |
| pdanek | when I hit something in pulley menus | 21:09 |
| chem|st | Yaniel: ambiences are oneshots | 21:09 |
| Yaniel | okay so ambiences just trigger it | 21:09 |
| pdanek | the thing blinks twice | 21:09 |
| pdanek | and makes me wait ages | 21:09 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: in the release notes is says they're going to speed it up | 21:09 |
| pdanek | great | 21:09 |
| chem|st | pdanek: annoying isn't it... accepting a call has that 1500ms wait too | 21:09 |
| pdanek | indeed | 21:09 |
| r0kk3rz | if you're new to the concept, it makes it easier to understand | 21:10 |
| r0kk3rz | but we've been used to it for months/years | 21:10 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: speed-up? accepting calls should be instant | 21:10 |
| pdanek | should yeah | 21:10 |
| r0kk3rz | well the whole pulley based call screen is retarded | 21:11 |
| r0kk3rz | should be normal dialog | 21:11 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: gestures are news to the majority, wait and see... 3.0 will have a bottom bar with 3 buttons! | 21:11 |
| r0kk3rz | then you can have a nice page transition between the accept call and the in-call screen | 21:11 |
| r0kk3rz | rather than stupid pulley thing then random jarring fullscreen change | 21:12 |
| pdanek | I don't like this. | 21:14 |
| pdanek | it's like KDE3->KDE4 | 21:14 |
| pdanek | gonna sleep :D | 21:14 |
| pdanek | cheers guys | 21:14 |
| r0kk3rz | give it time pdanek | 21:14 |
| pdanek | sure I will | 21:14 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: I did give it time... | 21:14 |
| r0kk3rz | it wasnt perfect before, its not perfect now, but there are some improvements with this one | 21:14 |
| chem|st | some of the improvements are nice but none of them required to sacrifice cover-action-gesture or launcher-favourites | 21:16 |
| r0kk3rz | the lack of launcher favourites makes the extra covers possible | 21:17 |
| r0kk3rz | which is nice | 21:17 |
| pdanek | before in notifications | 21:18 |
| r0kk3rz | but kinda silly when you have no apps open, or only 2 | 21:18 |
| pdanek | when I clicked on message of android app | 21:18 |
| pdanek | android app opened | 21:18 |
| pdanek | now the message just disappears | 21:18 |
| pdanek | and nothing | 21:18 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: well thats obviously a bug | 21:18 |
| pdanek | big problem | 21:21 |
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| pdanek | my beloved ambiance with blue ship on wild sea | 21:21 |
| pdanek | is gone | 21:21 |
| pdanek | why? | 21:21 |
| r0kk3rz | it wasnt hipster enough | 21:21 |
| r0kk3rz | but they also nuked user ambiances | 21:23 |
| r0kk3rz | which is a little mean | 21:23 |
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| urs | uuh, now, after the update to 1.1.9, the media app doesn't list any .ogg or .flac files anymore | 21:25 |
| urs | only the single mp3 I have on my phone is visible. | 21:25 |
| urs | Is there a way to rescan the filesystem for media? | 21:25 |
| urs | (they are still visible and playable in the file manager, but show up neither in the media app nor in the ringtone selection) | 21:26 |
| pdanek | I feel raped. | 21:27 |
| pdanek | waiittt | 21:28 |
| pdanek | app cover actions are gone? | 21:28 |
| pdanek | wasn't that one of unique reasons why would people even use Sailfish? | 21:28 |
| pdanek | I have barely used it | 21:28 |
| pdanek | but for few apps, it was really good | 21:28 |
| urs | no they aren't gone. | 21:29 |
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| pdanek | for Simple Flashlight, doesn't work anymore | 21:29 |
| urs | browser still has it's + atleast | 21:29 |
| pdanek | that + doesn't work for me too | 21:30 |
| pdanek | it always just moves left or right, to notifications menu | 21:30 |
| r0kk3rz | urs: tracker-control -se | 21:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | drops the db and full scan | 21:30 |
| Lieke | the cover actions are buttons now | 21:30 |
| urs | r0kk3rz: I just tried -r | 21:31 |
| urs | lets see what it brings | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | oh, lpm still works | 21:31 |
| pdanek | ohhhhh | 21:31 |
| pdanek | not bad | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | i thought someone said it was broken | 21:31 |
| pdanek | I like it | 21:31 |
| pdanek | buttons | 21:31 |
| urs | r0kk3rz: indeed, now it works again | 21:31 |
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| pdanek | before it was over complicated even for sailors | 21:31 |
| urs | r0kk3rz: thanks | 21:31 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek: buttons are bad, bring back the swipy goodness | 21:32 |
| pdanek | I'm getting used to the OS slowly | 21:33 |
| urs | But still, most ogg files are not selectable as ringtones. | 21:33 |
| pdanek | I just need to get rid of those ambiances menu, as I never really use those | 21:33 |
| urs | (That's been a bug since forever. Reported it long ago, still not fixed) | 21:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek: you can unstar them in the settings menu | 21:34 |
| r0kk3rz | then you are left with lock only | 21:34 |
| urs | that was basically the first thing I did after the upgrade | 21:35 |
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| urs | I still don't understand the idea of ambiences, they are so useless. | 21:35 |
| pdanek | cool | 21:36 |
| pdanek | one more thing, not related to update though | 21:36 |
| pdanek | often I lose 4G connection and phone switches to 3G | 21:36 |
| pdanek | and it doesn't really switch back to 4G soon, I have to wait ages until phone decides to switch into 4G | 21:37 |
| Yaniel | I lost one custom ambience but another one remained | 21:37 |
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| pdanek | but I can force it by limiting phone to 3G and then enabling 4G back --> phone immediately switches to 4G | 21:37 |
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| pdanek | how to force my phone to go to 4G always when it's available? | 21:37 |
| r0kk3rz | obviously it thinks 4g isnt available | 21:38 |
| r0kk3rz | which is why it switches | 21:38 |
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| pdanek | like now.... my phone is on 3G because I went to toilet... but I'm back in room again and I know I have really good 4G signal here | 21:38 |
| pdanek | instead the phone stays on poor 3G signal | 21:38 |
| pdanek | but it thinks wrong | 21:38 |
| pdanek | if I force it to go to 4G now, it would | 21:38 |
| pdanek | and even better signal | 21:38 |
| Yaniel | lol my phone drops to barely 2 bar 2G when I go to the toilet | 21:39 |
| pdanek | it switches properly | 21:39 |
| prometoys | how can i list the packages in a repository? | 21:39 |
| Yaniel | talk about insulated walls | 21:39 |
| pdanek | but then it doesn't switch back | 21:39 |
| pdanek | that's the problem | 21:39 |
| Yaniel | prometoys: you usually don't want to, maybe pkcon search name <name> is what you are after? | 21:39 |
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| prometoys | Yaniel: i want to know, what i installed from openrepos | 21:40 |
| Yaniel | use warehouse? | 21:40 |
| prometoys | but how I can see installed packages their | 21:42 |
| prometoys | i just see enabled repositories | 21:42 |
| r0kk3rz | in the my apps section? | 21:42 |
| r0kk3rz | my profile > view full list | 21:43 |
| r0kk3rz | i think that gets everything on the system though | 21:43 |
| prometoys | full list is a list of all packages, not only the warehouse packages. | 21:46 |
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| Yaniel | nice, tapping the homescreen briefly brings up the top row of the app launcher | 22:02 |
| r0kk3rz | Yaniel: strangely only when homescreen is empty | 22:03 |
| Yaniel | :/ | 22:03 |
| r0kk3rz | which limits its usefulness somewhat | 22:03 |
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| Yaniel | yeah | 22:04 |
| r0kk3rz | it would be nicer if it was there more permanently, until the room is needed by the cover pages | 22:05 |
| r0kk3rz | when you have less than 9 apps open, it can fit like before | 22:05 |
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| prometoys | r0kk3rz thanks for your hint with CLI, i found some info on openrepos and could remove the patch. i was so curios about sf2.0, that i forget disabling the only patch i installed | 22:08 |
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| tadzik | wow | 23:16 |
| tadzik | that patch for instant pulley menu actions is much, much needed | 23:16 |
| tiwake | how is sailfishOS 2.0 for you early access peoples? | 23:22 |
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| tadzik | nice | 23:45 |
| tadzik | my mobile network indicator works again | 23:46 |
| tadzik | I'd rather have the 4 icons available without onetapping though | 23:48 |
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