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| _inte_ | hello | 06:51 |
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| _inte_ | I have a problem with package kit as described at tmo: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1479431#post1479431 | 06:54 |
| _inte_ | does anybody here have a solution at hand? | 06:54 |
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| _inte_ | I only wonder if it is worth to bring this issue to tjc as well... | 06:55 |
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| coderus | _inte_: need to understand why this error is triggering: https://github.com/nemomobile-packages/PackageKit/blob/master/PackageKit/backends/zypp/pk-backend-zypp.cpp#L438 | 08:25 |
| _inte_ | gdb returns exit code 07 | 08:25 |
| _inte_ | but it seems rather a zypper than a pkcon problem then? | 08:29 |
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| _inte_ | invoking zypper dup offers a couple of updates while zypper up doesnt | 08:33 |
| coderus | show zypper lu | 08:39 |
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| _inte_ | No updates found. | 08:45 |
| _inte_ | zypper dup shows updates but fails during install | 08:46 |
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| _inte_ | throwing No Space Left On Device even though there is space left and i still can install new packages | 08:46 |
| pp_ | btrfs balance needed? | 08:47 |
| _inte_ | no not really | 08:47 |
| chem|st | _inte_: zypper distupgrade is a very bad idea! | 08:47 |
| _inte_ | chem|st: then im lucky it failed for me :) | 08:47 |
| chem|st | _inte_: although libzypper is used using zypper is considered unsafe as there are no safety measures | 08:48 |
| _inte_ | well I think I dont have any alternative atm | 08:49 |
| _inte_ | i would prefer using pkcon though | 08:50 |
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| chem|st | _inte_: zypper is no alternative to anything on the phone | 08:50 |
| _inte_ | well, but since my pkcon is broken what would be the alternative? | 08:50 |
| chem|st | you upgraded your device with zypper? | 08:51 |
| _inte_ | well, pkcon was already broken | 08:51 |
| _inte_ | but i managed to upgrade from 7.25 to 7.27 with zypper up, yes | 08:52 |
| chem|st | how about just fixing pkcon instead of applying a distupgrade? | 08:52 |
| _inte_ | hehehe | 08:52 |
| _inte_ | well, yeah, that would be a dream | 08:52 |
| chem|st | are you sure it is not some borked caches? | 08:53 |
| _inte_ | i checked pkcon settings, i ran gdb and even coderus pointed out the source where the pkcon error originates | 08:53 |
| _inte_ | did a zypper -c | 08:53 |
| _inte_ | and pkcon -c 1 | 08:53 |
| _inte_ | and pkcon -c 0 | 08:53 |
| _inte_ | or what it was to tell pkcon not to use cache | 08:54 |
| _inte_ | -1 | 08:54 |
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| chem|st | tried that reset package cache from sailfish utils? no idea what it does really but maybe some stuff more forcefully (don't get anxious it will probably reboot after you press that button) | 08:55 |
| _inte_ | sure | 08:55 |
| _inte_ | that does only rebuild the rpmdb | 08:55 |
| _inte_ | and, yeah, reboots the phone when done | 08:55 |
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| chem|st | still impressive... how did oyu manage to kill packagekit? | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | stabbing | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:57 |
| _inte_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1479431 | 08:57 |
| _inte_ | im not alone | 08:57 |
| _inte_ | i only upgraded my phone to 7.25 and pkcon stopped working since | 08:57 |
| _inte_ | all warehouse repos were lost after the upgrade | 08:58 |
| _inte_ | and the guy initially reporting the bug at tmo also has warehouse installed | 08:58 |
| _inte_ | there might be a connection | 08:58 |
| _inte_ | however, uninstalling/reinstalling warehouse doesnt solve the issue | 08:59 |
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| chem|st | _inte_: you either stop tinkering with warehouse and openrepos right now or I will have only one solutions for you - stab you like you stabbed pk! | 09:00 |
| _inte_ | hehe | 09:00 |
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| chem|st | _inte_: don't you think that is what brought you into this mess in the first place?! | 09:00 |
| _inte_ | I have the impression you really dont like openrepos | 09:01 |
| chem|st | you probably had nieldk's repo active and did a zypper dup | 09:01 |
| _inte_ | no i never did a zypper dup | 09:01 |
| _inte_ | only zypper up | 09:01 |
| _inte_ | and nieldk repo is somewhat a mess | 09:01 |
| _inte_ | i disabled it | 09:01 |
| chem|st | _inte_: was just exaggerating zypper up is bad enough | 09:02 |
| _inte_ | well, pkcon was already broken before | 09:02 |
| chem|st | no safety lever | 09:02 |
| _inte_ | sure i understand | 09:02 |
| _inte_ | even though i dont think there is anything pkcon-related in openrepos | 09:03 |
| _inte_ | anyways | 09:03 |
| _inte_ | pkcon stopped working after upgrading to 7.25 using the regular upgrademechanism | 09:03 |
| chem|st | reset then | 09:05 |
| _inte_ | oh | 09:05 |
| _inte_ | well I still have zypper so I neednt... :) | 09:06 |
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| chem|st | either fix packagekit or reset | 09:06 |
| _inte_ | im currently checking the libs linked to pkcon with ldd | 09:06 |
| tigeli | _inte_: it's most probably the openrepos which broke it as we haven't had such a bug report from anyone not having the openrepos enabled | 09:06 |
| _inte_ | tigeli: yes i think so | 09:07 |
| tigeli | and I only know two which pkcon is not working | 09:07 |
| tigeli | for which | 09:07 |
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| _inte_ | im trying to figure out if there is a lib linked to pkcon which is from openrepos and not original | 09:07 |
| chem|st | _inte_: reinstall pkcon and packagekit with zypper and NO openrepos enabled | 09:07 |
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| lainwir3d | https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-sales-box-accessories-update/ | 09:07 |
| _inte_ | chem|st: well cool that far more straight forward | 09:08 |
| lainwir3d | oops, that was yesterday. Am I too late ? :-/ | 09:08 |
| chem|st | _inte_: don't know zypper that well but you might want to check versions installed VS versions available | 09:09 |
| _inte_ | chem|st: well that would just be a zypper up? | 09:10 |
| chem|st | if zypper is as powerful as people claim you can do that for all packages | 09:10 |
| _inte_ | let me just try the reinstall | 09:10 |
| _inte_ | maybe | 09:10 |
| chem|st | _inte_: NO ZYPPER UP NO MORE! | 09:10 |
| _inte_ | im not a zypper expert as well | 09:10 |
| _inte_ | hehe no | 09:11 |
| _inte_ | well zypper up tells you when new packages are available | 09:11 |
| _inte_ | you neednt have to install them | 09:11 |
| chem|st | _inte_: I do not have time to look into it atm, google zypper compare versions or something | 09:11 |
| _inte_ | and of course it will inform of a repo change | 09:11 |
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| _inte_ | mh | 09:12 |
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| chem|st | what does zypper ve return? | 09:14 |
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| coderus | _inte_: maybe rm /home/.pk-zypp-dist-upgrade-cache? | 09:19 |
| _inte_ | i dont have such file | 09:20 |
| coderus | tigeli: i'll send this screenshot to BasilSemuonov. Not working? Have openrepos? It's not our problem then! :D | 09:20 |
| _inte_ | chem|st: Dependencies of all installed packages are satisfied. | 09:21 |
| coderus | _inte_: can you also post all output of pkcon with this error about cannot configure normal mode? | 09:22 |
| chem|st | _inte_: zypper -i -R should show the reverse ordered installed, maybe on top you have some things not from jolla repos | 09:22 |
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| _inte_ | coderus: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1479431 | 09:23 |
| coderus | this is pkmon | 09:24 |
| _inte_ | ah | 09:24 |
| coderus | what output of pkcon? | 09:24 |
| _inte_ | well scroll up the other guy posted the pkcon output | 09:24 |
| _inte_ | which is only the single sentence | 09:24 |
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| _inte_ | chem|st: R requires an argument | 09:28 |
| coderus | zypper install works? | 09:28 |
| coderus | just pkcon broken? | 09:28 |
| _inte_ | yes | 09:28 |
| coderus | try zypper in -f PackageKit-zypp libzypp | 09:28 |
| coderus | if not help try to reinstall all PackageKit* packages :) | 09:29 |
| _inte_ | reinstalled packagekit already | 09:30 |
| _inte_ | but not the libs | 09:30 |
| coderus | all packages? :) | 09:30 |
| _inte_ | no onky packagekit | 09:30 |
| _inte_ | lets see what will happen | 09:30 |
| _inte_ | maybe it just some config file messed up by openrepos | 09:31 |
| stephg | how does your pkcon break | 09:31 |
| _inte_ | that will most likely not be fixed by reinstall | 09:31 |
| stephg | can you search for example | 09:31 |
| coderus | and anyway post yours pkcon -v update | 09:31 |
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| _inte_ | stephg no nothing possible | 09:32 |
| coderus | _inte_: ln -f /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache | 09:33 |
| coderus | sorry | 09:33 |
| _inte_ | coderus: pkcon update looks exactly like for this guy | 09:33 |
| _inte_ | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1479151&postcount=1 | 09:33 |
| coderus | ln -f /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache /var/cache/zypp | 09:33 |
| coderus | and post ls -la /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache | 09:35 |
| _inte_ | both dirs exist for me | 09:35 |
| stephg | and the error? | 09:35 |
| stephg | what's the error say | 09:35 |
| _inte_ | could not configure normal mode | 09:35 |
| _inte_ | coderus: | 09:36 |
| _inte_ | drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8 2015-08-05 19:05 . | 09:36 |
| _inte_ | drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 200 2015-08-13 13:55 .. | 09:36 |
| _inte_ | drwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14 2015-08-05 19:05 solv | 09:36 |
| coderus | what? | 09:36 |
| _inte_ | /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache | 09:36 |
| _inte_ | but the other dir is more current | 09:36 |
| _inte_ | cant i just remove both dirs\ | 09:37 |
| coderus | okay | 09:37 |
| coderus | show ls -la /var/cache | 09:37 |
| coderus | paste it to somewhere | 09:37 |
| coderus | not in chat | 09:37 |
| _inte_ | yes :) | 09:37 |
| _inte_ | that will defineatly be more then 3 lines :) | 09:37 |
| _inte_ | http://pastebin.com/nCDhxpvP | 09:38 |
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| coderus | unlink /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache | 09:43 |
| coderus | ln -sf /var/cache/zypp /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache | 09:44 |
| coderus | and try refresh again | 09:44 |
| coderus | stop | 09:44 |
| coderus | you have folder here | 09:44 |
| coderus | mv /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache /var/cache/.pk-zypp-cache | 09:44 |
| _inte_ | yes | 09:44 |
| coderus | ln -sf /var/cache/zypp /var/cache/pk-zypp-cache | 09:44 |
| _inte_ | jey! | 09:45 |
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| _inte_ | coderus, thank you very much | 09:45 |
| coderus | works? | 09:46 |
| _inte_ | having to (similar) folders confused me too | 09:46 |
| _inte_ | yes | 09:46 |
| coderus | ok | 09:46 |
| _inte_ | now it seems to work | 09:46 |
| coderus | what version of PackageKit package you have? | 09:46 |
| _inte_ | do you wanna drop the solution to tmo to earn the credits? | 09:47 |
| _inte_ | mom still refreshing | 09:47 |
| coderus | rpm -q PackageKit | 09:47 |
| _inte_ | PackageKit-0.8.9+59.1-1.24.1.armv7hl | 09:47 |
| coderus | okay | 09:48 |
| _inte_ | I presume this issue is rather zypper related, not warehouse? | 09:48 |
| coderus | sure | 09:48 |
| coderus | but if sailors see you have openrepos installed they're just stop trying to help you | 09:49 |
| _inte_ | sure :) | 09:49 |
| _inte_ | so are you putting the solution up on tmo? Otherwise I can do that | 09:50 |
| _inte_ | I presume its save to remove /var/cache/.pk-zypp-cache now? | 09:50 |
| coderus | yes | 09:51 |
| coderus | also, i saw in recent changelogs fix about merging zypper and packagekit cache, seems this issue is very close to this thing | 09:52 |
| _inte_ | yes obviously | 09:53 |
| _inte_ | still not too easy to figure out by that wired error message :) | 09:54 |
| coderus | well, i said you before: check the sources :) | 09:55 |
| _inte_ | :) | 09:56 |
| _inte_ | I only wonder why only few people run into that issue | 09:57 |
| _inte_ | Id guess far more people would have zypper installed | 09:58 |
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| coderus | thats not related to "zypper" cli tool | 09:58 |
| coderus | this is some internal bug while upgrading | 09:59 |
| coderus | jolla refuses to check/confirm it | 09:59 |
| coderus | because users have openrepos installed and it of course openrepos problem | 09:59 |
| coderus | because if you have openrepos - all problems now is because of it :) | 09:59 |
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| chem|st | coderus: so caches? | 10:04 |
| _inte_ | :) | 10:04 |
| _inte_ | coderus: but why only have few people problems. This bug does obviously not affect all users, and probably also not all user who are using zypper | 10:06 |
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| pp_ | heh, "we have a few jolla ones left, once we sell the last ones we'll tell more about our future plans" | 10:45 |
| Nicd- | pp_: ? | 10:46 |
| pp_ | http://www.digitoday.fi/mobiili/2015/08/14/jollalta-luvassa-uutisia--uusi-puhelin/201510349/66 (finncrypted) | 10:47 |
| Nicd- | don't think it's gonna happen | 10:47 |
| Nicd- | with the intex coming and jolla saying hw is not for them | 10:47 |
| Nicd- | maybe another licence phone | 10:48 |
| Yaniel | "finncrypted" :D | 10:48 |
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| chem|st | Nicd-: you missed that Jolla will have a hardware spinoff of its own | 10:49 |
| pp_ | well, there's the hw side which will be spun off, once the dinghy starts sinking there's always the lifevest... | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | what's lifevest in finnish? | 10:50 |
| Nicd- | pelastusliivit | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | ok, so not as sexy as 'jolla' | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:50 |
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| Teme | :D | 11:03 |
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| Sidde | Stskeeps: guessing Jolla is a germanic derived word, and therefor has very little incommon with the lifevest | 11:08 |
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| kimmoli | pelastusliivit can be very sexy | 11:38 |
| Yaniel | do MMORPG armor class rules apply? | 11:39 |
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| * tbr has an ogre-slaying knife with +9 against ogres! | 11:41 | |
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| kimmoli | ..but first you need äyskäri to get the leaking water out from dinghy | 11:48 |
| kimmoli | preferable made from mehukatti canister | 11:48 |
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| jaacoppi | miksi röllin jolla upposi? siitä puuttui tilipitappi | 11:58 |
| cos- | digitoday's comment section is always a pleasure to read | 11:59 |
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| kelvan | my jolla just rebootet while btrfs balance, now it boots and reboots after boot is finished :( | 13:19 |
| kelvan | started in recovery and tried brfs recovery, no luck so far | 13:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | kelvan: do you have journal logs when recovery ? | 13:21 |
| kelvan | how can I access them from recovery shell? journalctl ist not found | 13:21 |
| kelvan | SfietKonstantinW: do I have to mount root and chroot or something before? | 13:24 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | kelvan: yes, mount your rootfs and chroot into it | 13:25 |
| kelvan | what /dev/ is root? there a so many partions :/ | 13:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/ | 13:28 |
| kelvan | thx | 13:29 |
| kelvan | "No journal files were found." | 13:30 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | damn | 13:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | set the persistent | 13:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-journalctl-to-view-and-manipulate-systemd-logs | 13:34 |
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| kelvan | set to persistent and rebootet, it's not rebooting yet, strange thing | 13:39 |
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| kelvan | well now I have to make the jolla account work again | 13:40 |
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| kelvan | my dalvik f*cked up it's permissions tried to reinstall but jolla account logged out | 13:41 |
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| kelvan | weird swipe to close deactivated itself oO | 13:43 |
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| cos- | kelvan: do you have the battery fix done? | 13:46 |
| kelvan | cos-: never had the battery problem so far | 13:46 |
| kelvan | it seems to be working again without reboots freezes | 13:46 |
| kelvan | but: What does "Oops, could not store app keys" when loggin into jolla account? | 13:47 |
| cos- | i've seen it once after a crash | 13:49 |
| cos- | reboot solved it | 13:49 |
| kelvan | cos-: had several reboots still there | 13:49 |
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| cos- | ok, sounds like it's really broken | 13:51 |
| kelvan | journal: https://paste.fedoraproject.org/255154/60283143/ | 13:51 |
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| kelvan | removed jolla account from settings and added new one, after signing in it shows "Could not create account" instead now | 14:14 |
| kelvan | new account works to login | 14:17 |
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| kelvan | oh great feature, if you try pkcon install aliendalvik it not just logs you out of your jolla account, it seems to kill the whole bloody account | 14:20 |
| kelvan | are you f*cking kidding me??? | 14:20 |
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| flux | are keyboards doing a comeback?! http://www.geek.com/android/samsung-made-a-case-that-turns-the-note-5-into-a-blackberry-1631079/ - well, in the form of an accessory at least ;). | 17:26 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | flux, tohkbd2 envy | 17:54 |
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| Teemu | oh so every mobile device with keybored is now a blackberry? | 18:04 |
| Teemu | ... | 18:04 |
| Shinryuu | :( | 18:05 |
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| dunp | :( | 18:07 |
| dunp | n900 or communicator | 18:07 |
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| Morpog | soooo, kimmoli got a a Jolla dev tablet it seems :D | 20:09 |
| Nicd- | yes, dev tablets have arrived | 20:10 |
| Morpog | https://github.com/kimmoli/heebo/commit/c5954598fe9b6ff3d353bd0e2411d9f16dd5c5d4 | 20:10 |
| Nicd- | or at least started arriving | 20:10 |
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