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| tiwake | http://www.osnews.com/story/28774/Lenovo_used_firmware_to_install_persistent_crapware | 02:25 |
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| pp_ | heh, now they suspect it's the circuit board and ask them to send it back, lessee if they agree with "fix it or figure out it's unfixable without charging me anything" | 06:32 |
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| cvp | Good Morning... my Proximity Sensor is broken. If some one call me, the display turns off and i cant accept the call, i have to wait until the caller stop calling me. Is it possible to deactivate this function over terminal? | 06:43 |
| pp_ | indeed :D mcetool --set-ps-mode=disabled | 06:45 |
| pp_ | see https://together.jolla.com/question/79021/disable-proximity-sensor/ | 06:45 |
| pp_ | prepare to put people on hold with your cheek tho :( | 06:46 |
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| cvp | pp_: cool, this helps me :) thank you :) | 07:16 |
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| citylight2 | upgrading, yet chrome is not longer browsing for me | 08:16 |
| citylight2 | I can run it and input text, but I can not open any websites | 08:16 |
| citylight2 | hope this upgrade fixes it | 08:17 |
| citylight2 | no still does not work: 44.0.2403.133 | 08:21 |
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| lainwir3d | \o/ | 08:48 |
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| Yaniel | oh look an update | 09:57 |
| lainwir3d | wait, what ? | 09:57 |
| Nicd- | 1.1.7.27 | 09:58 |
| urs | 1.1.7.27 (13.8.2015): Fix a reboot issue when using hotspot with GPS and an icon scaling issue for favourite settings | 09:58 |
| ggabriel | \o/ | 09:58 |
| ggabriel | still ea tho | 09:58 |
| urs | says https://together.jolla.com/question/98953/release-notes-117-bjorntrasket/ | 09:58 |
| urs | does it fix the keyboard layout thing? | 09:58 |
| lainwir3d | hmmm.... early access again | 09:58 |
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| mattaustin | Once I went outside the GPS started working after a few minutes, so all good there :) | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | urs: the changelog does not say so probably not | 10:03 |
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| Pawky | What happened to Video phone calls using 3g?... Did it all die out when all phones could use internet? | 10:13 |
| Pawky | To my knowledge its not possible to do such call using Jolla, right? | 10:13 |
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| urs | I don't even know what standard those were using | 10:13 |
| urs | skype technologically overtook all of these approaches. | 10:13 |
| SQUelcher | Pawky: They disappeared tohether with MMS, WAP and Joyn | 10:13 |
| pp_ | not to mention push to talk | 10:13 |
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| Pawky | so... what to use in Jolla then? | 10:14 |
| Pawky | Its odd its not implemented anymore as this means you can only call people having a certain app installed :-/ Having all phones implement it you never had to think about such... | 10:15 |
| Pawky | pp_: I thought push to talk was still used in the states? I remember Orange county choppers using it mostly.. LO | 10:16 |
| Pawky | L | 10:16 |
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| pp_ | could be, the 3gpp feature never caught on, tried it for a call or two (was free with my operator or whatnot) | 10:16 |
| Pawky | just as me :-D | 10:17 |
| Pawky | made me find my way to the pub after my friends lousy directions.. :-) | 10:17 |
| Pawky | but its still a bit weird, as people seem to love the video feature in skype... | 10:18 |
| TemeV | wasn't that video phone call thingy just a Nokia thing? Did some other manufacturer support it? | 10:20 |
| tbr | I've seen a sony-ericsson phone do it. But that was probably running symbian too at that time. :) | 10:20 |
| lainwir3d | n900 video call was using a skype backend I think | 10:21 |
| lainwir3d | via telepathy | 10:21 |
| zutto | google talks also supported video calls | 10:21 |
| lainwir3d | true | 10:21 |
| zutto | before hangouts was up | 10:21 |
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| zutto | and before skype came to android | 10:21 |
| vrutkovs | Pawky: https://together.jolla.com/question/415/sip-voip-native-integration/ | 10:22 |
| Pawky | vrutkovs: Is that as good as the Nokia N9 one? :-) | 10:22 |
| Jare | it's supported in the 3g stack, but not all manufacturers have implemented it | 10:23 |
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| vrutkovs | no idea, but I'd rather use something decent (and widely accepted) comparing to skype for one-on-one calls | 10:23 |
| Pawky | Jare: thats precisely what I thought | 10:23 |
| Jare | i suppose we will see a comeback, when the operators and phones start to support lte calls | 10:23 |
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| Pawky | vrutkovs: true.. that SIP phone stuff sounds interesting | 10:23 |
| vrutkovs | not sure how well it conferences though | 10:23 |
| vrutkovs | other option is talky.io and webrtc | 10:23 |
| Pawky | Jare: They don't? | 10:24 |
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| vrutkovs | Pawky: okay, in fact talky.io works via Firefox on jolla | 10:33 |
| vrutkovs | its just ugly :) | 10:33 |
| Mikaela | https://together.jolla.com/question/9514/support-webrtc-in-native-web-browser/ | 10:33 |
| Pawky | :-/ | 10:33 |
| Mikaela | also https://github.com/Dax89/harbour-webpirate/issues/41 | 10:34 |
| Jare | Pawky: iirc some operators might support lte calls, but mostly circuit switched fallback (lte<->2g/3g) is used at the moment. LTE supports only packet data, so calls would be basically pure voip calls, which means flexibity in audio and video streams | 10:35 |
| Pawky | oh.. ok. | 10:39 |
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| phlixi | SQUelcher: actually MMS isnt dead at all. AFAIK Apples iMessage, as well as the Google pendant (Hangouts?) both use SMS as fallback for peers that are not on the same platform. However if you put "multi media" in it (e. g. a picture), it becomes an MMS. As a Jolla user you get those "fallback messages" twice as much, since you are neither on Apple nor on Google. | 11:39 |
| phlixi | ...and "Joyn" never disappeared, because it never appeared :D | 11:40 |
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| phlixi | the telcos kinda like the music industry failed regarding messaging, too long they where trying to hard and to long and too much to squeeze out money from sms and mms, now everyone uses whatsapp and the like... | 11:48 |
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| Teemu | they should have just sold bandwidth and transferred traffic | 14:10 |
| Teemu | "nevermind are you using skype or telco, you pay per the bytes" | 14:10 |
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| phlixi | i would also prefer the "dumb tube" model | 14:42 |
| phlixi | :-) | 14:42 |
| phlixi | but obviously they are keen to get more money out of their tubes | 14:43 |
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| Trizt | Anyone who has an idea how to cancel a balance which has kept on for 3.5 weeks? | 18:29 |
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| Nicd- | by rebooting | 18:34 |
| Trizt | Nicd-: don't help, rebooted quite many times and it still keeps on balancing after the reboot | 18:36 |
| Nicd- | ah | 18:36 |
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| Trizt | I doubt it will end by itself | 18:38 |
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