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| ggabriel | hi | 08:48 |
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| ggabriel | is it just me or is anybody else not getting the update notification for 1.1.7? | 08:48 |
| PeperJohnny | Is it official for everybody now? | 08:51 |
| ggabriel | i was told it was ga | 08:55 |
| ggabriel | unless i misunderstood | 08:55 |
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| PeperJohnny | I already have it, but then again I am in the group of early testers or whatever they are called | 08:56 |
| lainwir3d | I don't have it either | 08:57 |
| accumulator | me neither | 08:57 |
| ggabriel | ok, so maybe it's still ea | 08:57 |
| ggabriel | thanks :) | 08:57 |
| PeperJohnny | there is nothing on tjc either, that would suggest that its released | 08:58 |
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| the_mgt | iirc, I got an early update and an official notification for the last two updates | 09:04 |
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| Sail0r | https://thehackernews.com/2015/07/android-vulnerability-crash.html | 10:40 |
| Sail0r | :D | 10:40 |
| Sail0r | another one ... | 10:40 |
| Sail0r | which google failed to patch | 10:41 |
| Sail0r | maybe they should think about their own policy ;) | 10:41 |
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| Sidde | Sail0r: nice | 10:45 |
| ggabriel | google doesn't make mistakes | 10:58 |
| ggabriel | "almost making them completely unresponsive and useless to perform very basic functions, including to make or receive calls." | 11:00 |
| ggabriel | that happens to me without the exploit fwiw | 11:00 |
| ggabriel | just when android starts updating itself or downloading stuff for no reason | 11:00 |
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| TMavica | ggabriel: system_server used up 10% memory when alien dalvik enabled.. | 11:23 |
| ggabriel | TMavica: i read yesterday :) | 11:24 |
| chem|st | TMavica: gapps/services? | 11:24 |
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| TMavica | Also zypote and some come.android.xxxx, com.myriadgro | 11:24 |
| TMavica | Dont know what they are.. | 11:25 |
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| TMavica | ggabriel: google play, service, setting uninstalled, still is here. I remember previous update doesnt have these processes | 11:26 |
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| ggabriel | TMavica: where do you see that? top command? | 11:27 |
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| TMavica | Lighthouse | 11:28 |
| TMavica | Sort by memory, then u can see them | 11:28 |
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| ggabriel | but if you stop alien dalvik that goes away, right? | 11:30 |
| TMavica | Yes | 11:31 |
| TMavica | Alien dalvik enabled, then used up 20 more % memory | 11:32 |
| TMavica | Can u see them? | 11:32 |
| ggabriel | yup, they seem normal, and i never installed google stuff | 11:33 |
| ggabriel | myriad is the company who makes alien dalvik anyway, isn't it? | 11:34 |
| ggabriel | my com.android are contacts and so on | 11:34 |
| ggabriel | but my system server uses 7% of ram | 11:34 |
| ggabriel | then again, i have 2 android viruses installed and I use 1 very rareloy | 11:34 |
| * ggabriel admits that using tohkbd to find out all this stuff is a lot more fun than anticipated | 11:35 | |
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| pdanek | TMavica: hey | 11:41 |
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| Lipevakala | Hmm. Update 1.1.7.25 closes apps violently? Atleast no hope keeping irc live with multiple apps.. | 14:20 |
| Tegu | it has been happening for a long time already | 14:21 |
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| Tegu | at least update 10 (iirc) made it more agressive | 14:21 |
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| Lipevakala | Yes notised that but now this is bad. | 14:25 |
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| chem|st | better than freezing | 14:33 |
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| Lipevakala | Jeah but now it drops ind you cant notice what is happening.... i hope that you can choose important apps | 14:42 |
| ggabriel | you can adjust the behaviour of the oom killer | 14:42 |
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| Lipevakala | How¿ | 14:44 |
| ggabriel | look in tjc, somebody wrote something about it | 14:44 |
| ggabriel | ofc i haven't got the link handy | 14:44 |
| ggabriel | and it does need dev mode | 14:44 |
| Lipevakala | Ok, i look for it.. | 14:45 |
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| topi` | it seems my jolla just went into a reboot loop. I tried fixing the Btrfs with the (4) option from the telnet menu but no avail | 16:34 |
| topi` | any further ideas? | 16:34 |
| topi` | the things most valuable on the eMMC are the photos, I tried mounting partition 27 and have a look at /data but there was no jpg's to be seen anywhere, I just got a "Stale NFS handle" message when doing du -s | 16:35 |
| topi` | I don't understand what NFS has to do with btrfs, though | 16:35 |
| topi` | what's the default location for photos shot with the default jolla camera app? | 16:38 |
| r0kk3rz | home/nemo | 16:38 |
| topi` | thanks | 16:38 |
| topi` | it seems /home is totally empty | 16:39 |
| topi` | on mmcblk0p28 | 16:40 |
| topi` | any ideas how this can be fixed? | 16:40 |
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| r0kk3rz | hmmm | 16:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | mine appears to be mounted from blk0p28 anyway | 16:42 |
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| topi` | oh, so blk0p28 is mounted at /home usually? | 16:44 |
| topi` | probably not, since there is a link from sdcard -> home/nemo/android_storage | 16:46 |
| topi` | which is broken | 16:46 |
| topi` | since there is no home/nemo, just an empty home | 16:46 |
| topi` | OK, I just declare my photos officially dead :/ should have backed up early... | 16:46 |
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| r0kk3rz | others might have ideas, i havent really touched recovery mode | 16:50 |
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| Stskeeps | topi`: don't factory reset yet | 16:54 |
| Stskeeps | topi`: mkdir -p /mnt; mount -o subvolid=0 /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt; cd /mnt/@home | 16:55 |
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| Stskeeps | topi`: that should have your photos | 17:02 |
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| pdanek2 | hey | 17:22 |
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| pdanek2 | do you think intex phones will have same update priority, or the os updates will be later than for jolla phones? | 17:23 |
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| Yaniel | good question | 17:25 |
| pdanek2 | Because it might get as crazy as with Android, if updates become dependent on vendor | 17:25 |
| pdanek2 | and Jolla wants to make UI customizable for vendors | 17:26 |
| pdanek2 | right? | 17:26 |
| Yaniel | AFAIK the only thing customizable by vendors is the partner space | 17:26 |
| Yaniel | ie. one package | 17:26 |
| pdanek2 | alright | 17:26 |
| Yaniel | the main question I'm thinking of are drivers | 17:27 |
| pdanek2 | can the partnerspace be uninstalled? | 17:27 |
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| Yaniel | technically it probably won't be too difficult | 17:28 |
| Yaniel | whether it is supported or not is another thing | 17:28 |
| pdanek2 | right | 17:28 |
| pdanek2 | hopefully they sort it out and don't let updates in hands of vendors | 17:29 |
| pdanek2 | btw, I do think that Jolla itself has participated on HW design of upcoming Intex phone | 17:31 |
| pdanek2 | or that's the whole point of reference platform? | 17:31 |
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| topi` | Stskeeps: excellent! thanks for the advice. I'll recover my photos to a SD card. | 17:33 |
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| Stskeeps | topi`: hope it works, i know how valuable memories are | 17:38 |
| Stskeeps | (i lost mine 2003-2008 due to backup hd crashing at the wrong time) | 17:39 |
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| Stskeeps | pdanek2: update priorities take effort and are impractical | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | if anything, jolla phones would be first since they are better feedack | 17:39 |
| Stskeeps | +b | 17:39 |
| pdanek2 | Stskeeps: first by matter of days I guess | 17:40 |
| pdanek2 | not months or years like android | 17:41 |
| chem|st | topi`: make that subvolume=@home just to be sure not to fck up your recovery snapshots | 17:41 |
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| pdanek | Pitty that Gnome 3 isn't in Qt | 21:01 |
| pdanek | Pity* | 21:01 |
| Tegu | gnome in qt, for sure :P | 21:01 |
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| chem|st | pdanek1: pitty KDE did not die a horrible death 10 years ago | 21:13 |
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| * stephg quite likes plasma5 | 21:51 | |
| stephg | but I'm not getting into that discussion now, good night! ;) | 21:52 |
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| phlixi | i bet without kde we wouldnt have qt either | 21:54 |
| Sail0r | why is android so f*cked | 21:56 |
| Sail0r | try to setup a vpn connection | 21:56 |
| Sail0r | and after each change I need to reboot the damn tablet | 21:56 |
| Sail0r | otherwise it just says "unknown error" | 21:57 |
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