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| Tofe | Still no roadmap for https://together.jolla.com/question/7509/missing-note-field-in-contact-details/ ? a read-only field would be like a 10min job... | 07:10 |
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| Tofe | A least I hope it'll be part of Sailfish 2.0 | 07:15 |
| chem|st | Tofe: you misunderstood what SFOS2.0 is, new core stuff, new silica ui, new events view, new ambience switcher, reverting gestures to buttons for new silica ui, usually bugfixes, as always some features... | 07:21 |
| chem|st | Tofe: that reads, it is a normal upgrade but with some bigger rewriting of main and core stuff, and most of it is marketing | 07:22 |
| chem|st | some of it is even just making it possible to scale to tablet size | 07:23 |
| TemeV | If they update the UI of the basic apps, maybe they add that also | 07:24 |
| Stskeeps | TemeV: hopefully soon that'll be a matter of sending a pull request.. | 07:25 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: that is what I am counting on, would probably remove all minor feature requests within a couple of weeks | 07:26 |
| tbr | .oO( public git repo and working pull process or gtfo… ) | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: uh-huh | 07:26 |
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| TemeV | Stskeeps: waiting for that. I have some improvements for messages app in the oven waiting for it :) | 07:27 |
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| chem|st | TemeV: Messages app is the least of my concerns | 07:29 |
| Tofe | Stskeeps: I'll be glad to PR it when it'll be possible :) | 07:29 |
| TemeV | chem|st: it is one of the biggest for me :) That's why I'm now trying to hack it to work | 07:29 |
| chem|st | TemeV: what is it? | 07:30 |
| TemeV | Group chats, to begin with | 07:30 |
| Tofe | It's exactly the kind of fix, with probably not a large functional impact, that the community can contribute to | 07:30 |
| chem|st | TemeV: groupchats, otr, gpg are missing in front and backend iirc | 07:31 |
| Tofe | (I was talking about the note thingy, for my part :) ) | 07:31 |
| TemeV | group chats are only partially missing | 07:31 |
| chem|st | ya gabble should work just fine I guess | 07:31 |
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| TemeV | nemo middleware is missing some features, like fetching chat names, topics etc | 07:32 |
| TemeV | and UI has some bugs on showing them correctly | 07:33 |
| tbr | exposing underlying telepathy functionality would be a big thing for quite many of the power users | 07:33 |
| TemeV | Telepathy has so much potential | 07:33 |
| chem|st | and after that just pull the accounts source from maemo :) | 07:34 |
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| * TemeV wishes, all the time spent on Whatsapp clients etc would have gone to Telepathy client and connection managers | 07:34 | |
| chem|st | TemeV: so true | 07:34 |
| chem|st | but connman needs upstream love, that is actually not a jolla problem per se | 07:35 |
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| Venemo_j | hey | 07:49 |
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| Venemo_j | no | 07:51 |
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| Venemo_j | connman needs a replacement, and killing with fire | 07:51 |
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| Yaniel | what would that replacement be? netctl? NetworkManager? | 07:55 |
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| Venemo_j | networkmanager always worked for me | 07:58 |
| Venemo_j | although connman is less unreliable nowadays than it used to be | 07:59 |
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| Yaniel | I have seen about equally much hate for each of those | 07:59 |
| Venemo_j | also it's hard to say which bugs are truly connman's fault and which are just mistakes in jolla's connectivity stack or UI | 08:00 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | Venemo_j: networkmanager for wireless lan maybe | 08:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | connman manages much ore | 08:02 |
| Shinryuu | I've been on connman for quite a while on my linux boxes | 08:03 |
| Venemo_j | SfietKonstantinW: nm too | 08:03 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | I would say that networking is hard | 08:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Venemo_j: isn't this modemmanager ? | 08:03 |
| SfietKonstantinW | how ubuntuphone do this btw ? | 08:03 |
| Venemo_j | on my laptop I use fedora which uses networkmanager, and I've never had any problems with it | 08:04 |
| Venemo_j | that of coure doesn't mean it's really better, maybe I'm just lucky | 08:04 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | Venemo_j: which wlan chip ? | 08:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | do you also have data on your laptop ? | 08:05 |
| Venemo_j | SfietKonstantinW: whichever chip was in my laptops for the past several years | 08:06 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | Venemo_j: I think you never used broadcom chips | 08:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | they were so bad | 08:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | unstable | 08:08 |
| Venemo_j | SfietKonstantinW: I recall using atheros, realtek and intel | 08:09 |
| Venemo_j | SfietKonstantinW: but then, faulty drivers are not the connectivity stack's blame | 08:09 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Venemo_j: they make you feel that something is bad | 08:10 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and you might want to blame the SW | 08:10 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I don't know if SFOS's connectivity stack is bad | 08:10 |
| SfietKonstantinW | just saying that it might not be easy to find those bugs | 08:11 |
| Venemo_j | indeed that's true | 08:11 |
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| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: if it is 4.x android default driver wlan stack is borked just like on any other android... that is known to google and they do not give a shit to get soc vendors to update the drivers properly | 08:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: what about data ? | 08:28 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Jolla's wlan is ~ OK | 08:28 |
| SfietKonstantinW | switching between different data mode is the problem | 08:28 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: data is ~ ok too | 08:28 |
| chem|st | and switching is connman | 08:29 |
| chem|st | going online and draining prepaid cards probably also connman | 08:29 |
| chem|st | + jolla | 08:29 |
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| chem|st | like GPS went online without even showing mdata, some kb data in france from using navigation without anything switched on | 08:30 |
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| chem|st | and it seems it is still doing so even "do not do data roaming" is like a ghost button, just there to make you feel good | 08:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: it worked for me | 08:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | went to CH: the data switch was disabled | 08:31 |
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| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: I was just glad that I have 10MB per month free on roaming | 08:32 |
| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 08:32 |
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| chem|st | the gps-data thing got fixed iirc, but general mdata has issues as some reported to have drained prepaid, I would not even recognize it as I have a unlimited contract (not roaming) | 08:33 |
| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: hey | 08:33 |
| Coolgeek | hey ! | 08:33 |
| Coolgeek | is there someone from jolla here to give me some info on my order ? | 08:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Coolgeek: what kind of order ? | 08:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | jolla ? tablet ? | 08:34 |
| Coolgeek | phone + toh | 08:34 |
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| chem|st | your order should update in your shop account | 08:35 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if not, contact care | 08:35 |
| Coolgeek | yup, i says "In Picking", what does it mean ? | 08:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Coolgeek: it means: the transporter will take the package soon | 08:36 |
| Coolgeek | ok | 08:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | when it got delivered to the transporter | 08:36 |
| chem|st | that packing is to be made | 08:36 |
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| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: paid in picking shipped - you paid, they pick it from warehouse and package it, then it is picked up by transport and you get a shipping note with tracking info... | 08:38 |
| chem|st | Coolgeek: http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/orders-delivery/ | 08:38 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yeah | 08:38 |
| Coolgeek | thanks chem|st | 08:42 |
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| chem|st | Coolgeek: do not wet yourself, it will get shipped eventually | 08:43 |
| Coolgeek | hehe | 08:44 |
| ggabriel | it will get shipped #soon | 08:44 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: that is a bad one ;) | 08:44 |
| ggabriel | they ought to be alright with the phones tho | 08:44 |
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| chem|st | ui keira black back in stock http://shop.jolla.com/eu_en/cat-the-other-half.html/ | 09:02 |
| Coolgeek | yup, ordered it with he phone :) | 09:03 |
| Helle | I wish the pink one came back in stock, or you know, them adding a purple one :) | 09:04 |
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| ggabriel | yeah, was tempted with the keira black, but then i'm getting a full black tohkbd | 09:14 |
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| avey | lime all the way | 09:20 |
| chem|st | I missed pink and lime :/ | 09:25 |
| chem|st | was sold out before I could order | 09:25 |
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| phlixi | ...batteries should be stocked again :D | 09:27 |
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| chem|st | phlixi: I have no idea what you guys do with your batteries... mine is still more than fine, device online since 2013-12-16 | 09:41 |
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| ggabriel | we butcher them | 09:42 |
| ggabriel | i have to say it's nice to have that extra battery for those rare cases when the jolla doesn't survive the full day | 09:42 |
| ggabriel | which happens when the thing constantly switches between 3g and lte for instance | 09:43 |
| ggabriel | or poor reception areas (such as inside certain buildings) | 09:43 |
| ggabriel | and loads of heavy usage | 09:43 |
| phlixi | i would like to have a spare battery in my backpack for the occasions whre i need to change it, because it is empty | 09:45 |
| phlixi | i do not like all those "external batteries" | 09:46 |
| phlixi | (and of course a charger woule be nice, but i can live without, and just charge them inside the phone one after another | 09:46 |
| phlixi | its kinda comedy, that the jolla is advertised with "replaceable batterie", but you can not replace it. except you buy one for 200eur ;-) (with a second phone attached) | 09:47 |
| pp | :-) | 09:48 |
| * pp wonders why he's repairing his for 105e, could get a new battery while I'm at it. | 09:48 | |
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| zutto | i have one spare battery that i dont use :l | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | zutto: you can make some money.... | 09:50 |
| phlixi | i used to play ingress and that burned the battery of a galaxy nexus in 3-4h. its kinda handy to replace it with scharged one and proceed a minute later after thhe reboot | 09:51 |
| zutto | wouldnt it be even more convenient to just have 10000-20000mAh battery strapped to the phone? | 09:51 |
| phlixi | na | 09:51 |
| zutto | no? | 09:51 |
| ggabriel | i personally carry an electricity generator around | 09:52 |
| TemeV | phlixi: even better if there was some 20mA battery to keep the phone alive when swithing the battery | 09:52 |
| ggabriel | it's got handy wheels so that it can come with me when I cycle too | 09:52 |
| zutto | multiple times the capacity of your current battery, 0 downtime | 09:52 |
| phlixi | yes, but i dont care to reboot for a minute after 4h | 09:52 |
| zutto | ggabriel: yeah, those are great | 09:52 |
| ggabriel | also, cars respect me a bit more for some reason | 09:52 |
| zutto | i personally lug around my miniature thorium plant | 09:52 |
| ggabriel | i forgot to say it's nuclear | 09:53 |
| ggabriel | maybe the yellow and black sign scare people off | 09:53 |
| zutto | hmh.. could be that | 09:53 |
| phlixi | and 10000 or even 20000mAh sounds kinda heavy. do not whant to hold that in the hand all the time :-) | 09:53 |
| zutto | phlixi: 10000mAh batterypack is around 200g | 09:54 |
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| zutto | jolla weights 3/4 of that | 09:54 |
| zutto | so.. not really heavy | 09:54 |
| phlixi | and that tripples the phones weight :-) | 09:54 |
| phlixi | it IS heavy | 09:54 |
| phlixi | and clunky | 09:54 |
| zutto | carrying extra battery isnt any more convenient than one of those | 09:55 |
| phlixi | well, for me it is, because in that case i have a backback anyway. i prefer to put weight into the backpack rather into my hand | 09:56 |
| zutto | you can strap in a wire from your backpack to your pocket | 09:57 |
| zutto | :P | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | a jolla extra battery is _a lot_ better than any of those fake external batteries with a usb imho | 09:57 |
| phlixi | thats SUPER convinient :D | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | for starters, it fits in one of those small pockets in a backpack, or your coin pocket in your jeans | 09:57 |
| ggabriel | external batteries can only dream of being so small | 09:57 |
| phlixi | ggabriel yes of course, its just they are that expensive :D | 09:57 |
| zutto | ggabriel: sure | 09:58 |
| zutto | but they hold 5-10 times the charge that one battery can hold | 09:58 |
| ggabriel | yeah, i don't need that much | 09:58 |
| zutto | phlixi here does | 09:58 |
| ggabriel | if i want that much, i carry my nuclear electricity generator | 09:58 |
| zutto | :P | 09:58 |
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| ggabriel | actually, if i need that much, i carry my laptop with 2 batteries attached to it | 09:59 |
| ggabriel | so i have more electricity and potential computing power | 09:59 |
| zutto | some of those battery packs come with 12v output for laptops | 09:59 |
| zutto | friend showed me one, was quite fancy | 09:59 |
| phlixi | no, i do not need THAT much :-) | 09:59 |
| ggabriel | the ideal would be a battery toh | 10:01 |
| ggabriel | if you do need for example a fortnight of electricity | 10:02 |
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| zutto | :P | 10:05 |
| the_mgt | you could invest in some large solar panel and strap that to your backpack | 10:07 |
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| zutto | those are quite inexpensive these days | 10:07 |
| zutto | not sure how efficient they are tho | 10:07 |
| the_mgt | http://sonnenrepublik.de/produkte/wing-solarmodul/ this one is not so inexpensive but effective | 10:08 |
| phlixi_mobile | not efficient enough for the night ;) | 10:08 |
| zutto | battery pack would be more convenient | 10:10 |
| zutto | :P | 10:10 |
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| the_mgt | you could charge the battery pack during daytime with the solar panel | 10:15 |
| zutto | ! | 10:16 |
| zutto | yes | 10:16 |
| chem|st | the_mgt: do you know changers? | 10:16 |
| the_mgt | no | 10:25 |
| chem|st | the_mgt: http://shop.changers.com/products/changers-starter-kit | 10:25 |
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| chem|st | the kit is available for 129eur at wemio | 10:26 |
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| the_mgt | chem|st: nice, but the wing is foldable and a bit more stylish :D | 10:28 |
| chem|st | the_mgt: I do not like the box on the back | 10:29 |
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| the_mgt | chem|st: where you plug the usb? me neither | 11:30 |
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| Tofe | chem|st: for information, I have succeeded to connect to my WPA entreprise wifi; after adding the self-signed certificate with trust, I needed to use the correct login, of course ;) | 11:39 |
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| chem|st | Tofe: yeah self signed and rootCA are two different things | 11:44 |
| chem|st | probably going to a webpage providing the cert for access would have solved it already | 11:44 |
| Tofe | chem|st: it's self-signed and root CA, in my case | 11:46 |
| chem|st | the_mgt: the changers has a cable attached | 11:46 |
| chem|st | alot smaller profile | 11:46 |
| Tofe | (another possibility is that I didn't understand what I was doing, of course) | 11:46 |
| chem|st | Tofe: ? either rootCA or selfsigned... what is both? | 11:46 |
| chem|st | either you add trust by having the rootCA to verify or you allow and add trust of self-signed | 11:47 |
| chem|st | let me guess, the APs need rootCA and ldap has selfsigned... | 11:48 |
| Tofe | the APs need rootCA, yes | 11:52 |
| Tofe | I think I just need to rtfm about rootCA stuff | 11:53 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | chem|st, welcome into connman hell | 12:14 |
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| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: not me, Tofe :) | 12:17 |
| chem|st | I am death AND FAMILIAR WITH HELL | 12:17 |
| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: the CA stuff has pretty much nothing to do with connman | 12:18 |
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| Coolgeek | "Shipped" \o/ | 13:20 |
| locusf | wheres the latest whatsup client? | 13:20 |
| chem|st | Coolgeek: :) | 13:21 |
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| chem|st | locusf: burning in hell | 13:21 |
| locusf | chem|st: argh | 13:21 |
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| Tofe | dr_gogeta86: I'm already out of hell, was just a brief visit | 13:32 |
| Stskeeps | anybody here who considers themselves a license header nazi? | 13:35 |
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| ggabriel | Stskeeps: at work? yes :( | 13:37 |
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| ggabriel | else you have LICENSE, right? | 13:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Stskeeps: what did you found ? Mismatching license headers a bit everywhere ? | 13:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | in a project ? | 13:40 |
| tadzik | and the yearly "let's update the year in LICENSE" party | 13:40 |
| tadzik | SfietKonstantinW: probably wondering if they need to put them in for some new component that's going open source :) | 13:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | tadzik: I guess so | 13:41 |
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| Yaniel | what's the normal operating temperature range for a jolla again? | 14:52 |
| giucam | it's finnish, so.. -40 to 20? :P | 14:55 |
| Yaniel | I'd say mine is about +40 to +50 atm | 14:56 |
| giucam | i wouldn't know | 14:56 |
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| theriel | hullos! hopefully this is the right place to get some opinions :) my gf has a jolla phone, i was thinking of helping her out. she's got the old version of mitäkuuluu, which apparently isn't going to be updated anymore. there appear to be three options: whatsapp, whatsup, and a beta of mitäkuuluu3.. anyone have any opinions on what to switch to? | 15:28 |
| tadzik | I only tried whatsup, it works | 15:29 |
| tadzik | and is said to be ban-proof, unlike some alternatives | 15:29 |
| theriel | whatsup is also a beta, right? | 15:30 |
| tadzik | yes | 15:30 |
| theriel | how buggy is it? my gf isn't terribly technical | 15:30 |
| theriel | so if i'm not around she won't necessarily be able to google and fix stuff | 15:30 |
| tadzik | I only launched it once or twice, I don't even have any friends that use whatsapp regularly :) | 15:31 |
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| theriel | oh ok. so you've used it, it works, and no other opinions than that? :) | 15:31 |
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| tadzik | none :) | 15:37 |
| tadzik | only thing you should know is that quite a few people have been banned for using mitakuuluu | 15:37 |
| tadzik | not sure which version though | 15:38 |
| tadzik | may be that 3 beta is safe | 15:38 |
| theriel | seems like it's pretty safe, judging by the comments about the app | 15:38 |
| theriel | not sure about possibilities of migrating/upgrading from the old version to the new | 15:39 |
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| Teemu | jou don | 15:55 |
| theriel | o/ | 15:55 |
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| mornfall | hmm, will sailfishos 2.0 come with a factory reset option that doesn't suck? :P | 16:12 |
| Yaniel | maybe with one that isn't a btrfs snapshot at least | 16:12 |
| mornfall | I have been on this for 3 hours and no end in sight | 16:13 |
| ggabriel | i doubt that you can magically do btrfs -> ext4 (or anything else) on the phone | 16:14 |
| ggabriel | but i heard that the tablet may be lvm+ext4 | 16:14 |
| mornfall | yeah, that's another thing, I wish I could format the device, because the filesystem seems to be the reason I am even doing this reset | 16:14 |
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| ggabriel | #possibly | 16:14 |
| mornfall | so I guess I have to hope that it's not too corrupt | 16:15 |
| ggabriel | it isn't like btrfs gets corrupted | 16:15 |
| ggabriel | it just gets full :P | 16:15 |
| ggabriel | i personally don't store that much in the phone memory | 16:15 |
| fennekki | hah, can't you do magical ext4 -> btrfs transformations, though | 16:17 |
| fennekki | not necessarily on the phone, but in general | 16:17 |
| ggabriel | fennekki: you can do that indeed | 16:17 |
| ggabriel | it isn't magical though | 16:17 |
| mornfall | ggabriel: actually, how would you know, it's not like there's a fsck.btrfs ... | 16:17 |
| fennekki | I'm aware it's less than magical, but y'kn | 16:17 |
| fennekki | o | 16:17 |
| mornfall | the system definitely fell apart over time | 16:17 |
| fennekki | brtfsck? | 16:18 |
| mornfall | it's rotting more than I remember windows rotting... | 16:18 |
| ggabriel | ok, the reports i heard is that it just gets full | 16:19 |
| * Yaniel is still disappointed in the lack of a fsck.gluster | 16:19 | |
| ggabriel | mine had zero problems | 16:19 |
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| fennekki | I've run btrfs as the primary filesystem on all of my machines for a few years now with no significant issues | 16:19 |
| mornfall | good for you, too bad that's anecdotal, and there's plenty of opposite anecdotes too | 16:20 |
| fennekki | but I do recall there being some issue with needing plenty of empty space to work at all | 16:20 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | Stskeeps | 16:20 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | when i'm back from my holiday i think i'll see what we can do to simply lvm-ext4-ify the jolla1 | 16:20 |
| fennekki | and I've never run a btrfs filesystem near-full | 16:20 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | http://www.merproject.org/logs/%23jollamobile/%23jollamobile.2015-07-19.log.html | 16:20 |
| mornfall | (and well, loses data for X usually trumps didn't lose data for Y) | 16:20 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | quote from there | 16:21 |
| mornfall | fennekki: on jolla it seems to be near full all the time, even though there's multiple GB of free space on report :P | 16:21 |
| fennekki | full of metadata? | 16:22 |
| fennekki | of some kind | 16:22 |
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| fennekki | I probably use so little onboard flash that I won't run into issues with that at all, I think I've got over half of it empty as in "about this much data in here" | 16:24 |
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| fennekki | how btrfs actually handles that is something I don't have intimate knowledge of, but it seems to deal with almost empty filesystems quite well | 16:24 |
| fennekki | which, of course, sounds rather silly | 16:24 |
| tadzik | argh | 16:24 |
| tadzik | anyone got jolla to work with windows? (8.1) | 16:24 |
| tadzik | I mean mtp | 16:24 |
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| fennekki | getting MTP to work on anything always seems like such a huge challenge | 16:31 |
| tadzik | yeah, but on linux it at least works at all | 16:33 |
| tadzik | I wouldn't say it works well | 16:33 |
| fennekki | I really honestly dislike MTP so much that I'd like to suggest using alternatives, like SFTP, but honestly I guess that's pointless if you're specifically using MTP | 16:33 |
| fennekki | oh | 16:33 |
| fennekki | that's strange | 16:33 |
| fennekki | maybe I just used a shit implementation back whenever | 16:33 |
| tadzik | all implementations I saw are shit | 16:33 |
| fennekki | I'd always end up with files in the wrong places, or being deleted when I tried to copy something else in | 16:34 |
| tadzik | I use sshfs when I need something serious | 16:34 |
| tadzik | I wouldn't mind using sshfs on windows too | 16:34 |
| fennekki | but the Windows implementations of MTP seem... to work... ish? | 16:34 |
| fennekki | I mean, you can't use MTP as if it was a fileystem | 16:34 |
| fennekki | filesystem* | 16:34 |
| tadzik | I think you need a device-specific driver | 16:34 |
| fennekki | Windows kinda pretends it's one but doesn't let you really DO anything with it | 16:34 |
| tadzik | like, literally per-device | 16:34 |
| fennekki | yeah possibly | 16:34 |
| fennekki | though that kinda | 16:34 |
| fennekki | feels like | 16:34 |
| fennekki | it makes MTP pointless? | 16:35 |
| tadzik | I think mtp is pointless | 16:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | its pointless if you're only going to use it for mass storage | 16:36 |
| r0kk3rz | but otherwise it has its uses | 16:36 |
| tadzik | if it worked fine, I guess, yeah | 16:37 |
| tadzik | with mass storage you couldn't use data from device while it's plugged in | 16:37 |
| tadzik | with how mtp is, you sometimes cannot use data on neither the device nor the PC, regardless of whether it's plugged in or not :) | 16:38 |
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| r0kk3rz | seems to work ok for me anyway | 16:39 |
| r0kk3rz | but they could auto advertise the partitions through RNDIS with developer mode | 16:39 |
| r0kk3rz | so you can use that instead of mtp if that works better for you | 16:40 |
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| tadzik | hmm | 16:47 |
| fennekki | I kindasorta like the concept of MTP but why not just do something like, IDK, hell, FTP is probably better | 16:48 |
| tadzik | yeah, whatever with inotify thingy to notify OS would be better | 16:49 |
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| fennekki | basically there's All These Ways to change files on a remote device that we already have interfaces for that a) work, unlike MTP and b) don't require unmounting unlike mass storage mode | 16:50 |
| fennekki | I wouldn't really mind even running like RNDIS to create a network interface to run SFTP over since hell, I just wind up using SFTP over my wifi anyway | 16:51 |
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| eye_a | jolla )01!@ joh | 17:51 |
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| pp | hrmn? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Shashlink-Android-Linux | 18:39 |
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| PaulePanter | Hi. Since quite some time, sometimes when I get a call, I am unable to answer that as the touch screen does not work. It’s displaying the call, but clicking does not work. Putting the window in the background and back to the top does not help. | 19:11 |
| truls | do you run the app facebook messenger? | 19:12 |
| PaulePanter | The only work around is, to put it in the background and then take the call in the small windows preview. | 19:12 |
| PaulePanter | truls: No, I do not. | 19:12 |
| PaulePanter | This is with Jolla 1.1.6.27. | 19:12 |
| TemeV | PaulePanter: that seems to be quite common problem | 19:13 |
| pdanek | Do you think new device Jolla company is going to just finish selling tablets, or they're actually going to release new phone next year? | 19:13 |
| TemeV | I have that also from time to time | 19:13 |
| PaulePanter | Is that a known problem. It’s a regression I guess in the last version. | 19:13 |
| truls | ok, it might be something similar. im experiencing the same now and then and then its because some chat messages in facebook messenger appears in a pop up window in tool-tip style, and it steals focus even tho its in the background | 19:13 |
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| PaulePanter | Hopefully it’ll be fixed in the next update. | 19:13 |
| TemeV | I think it is. At least some sailor commented the issue | 19:14 |
| truls | try to narrow it down and see what apps you have running when it happends | 19:14 |
| TemeV | But I also think it is older bug | 19:14 |
| PaulePanter | Understood. I’ll wait then. | 19:14 |
| TemeV | Of course the usual tip, check together to make sure it is there :) | 19:15 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, I'm asking here for VoLTE is sbj related | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | huh/ | 20:00 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 20:00 |
| dr_gogeta86 | VoLte is supported on jolla phone ? If is it how to check if work ? | 20:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | My operator claim it works | 20:02 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but while I call with my jolla switch in 3g Mode | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | jolla1 doesn't have volte afaik | 20:03 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | :- | 20:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ( | 20:04 |
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| pdanek1 | Do you think new device Jolla company is going to just finish selling tablets, or they're actually going to release new phone next year? | 20:05 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but i didn't understand if is it codec thing or other ...I've find referencies into lg g3 audio settings | 20:05 |
| pdanek1 | So new partners will have licensed Sailfish with their own customized UI, while Jolla device company will continue making vanilla devices, like Google is doing with Nexus? | 20:06 |
| ScreamerX | why do you need VoLTE? | 20:06 |
| Yaniel | for awesomeness of course | 20:07 |
| r0kk3rz | pdanek1: is there going to be enough money in that? | 20:08 |
| r0kk3rz | isnt the new model getting money by revenue sharing with ecommerce? | 20:08 |
| pdanek1 | :( | 20:09 |
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| ScreamerX | why is there ".local/share/system/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite" and ".local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite"? where is the difference? | 21:25 |
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| coderus | ScreamerX: second one is only visible to privileged processes | 22:02 |
| coderus | first one visible for all, and does not contains synced contacts, only offline | 22:03 |
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| ScreamerX | coderus, thanks. why does the type contain "Landline; Mobile; Voice;"? shouldnt it be just Landline or Mobile? | 22:05 |
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| arvut | o/ | 22:35 |
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