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| Yaniel | krosos: problems with the usbnet module? | 03:17 |
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| Yaniel | on the host side | 03:17 |
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| Lieke | oh boy, the spam is back again | 05:02 |
| * tbr checks | 05:03 | |
| tbr | all spammers blocked for now | 05:06 |
| Lieke | thank you | 05:06 |
| tbr | too many items to delete manually, I'll leave cleanup to tigeli and the others in jolla's IT | 05:06 |
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| tbr | bam, next one blocked | 05:29 |
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| pp | moooore spam :( | 07:17 |
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| * pp once had a great solution to chinese wikispammers (page was in finnish and nobody outside the city had any reason to edit), geoip from .cn tries to edit -> redirect to google.cn "free tibet" | 07:22 | |
| Jope | :-) | 07:28 |
| gabriel9 | how to sync contacts from jolla to nexus 5? | 07:30 |
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| zutto | pp: that surprisingly works very well :P | 07:34 |
| zutto | just mentioning "free tibet" in the edit page will make them all go away | 07:35 |
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| flux | <!-- free tibet --> ?-) | 07:41 |
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| pp | maybe "kim jong-un support group" would work for korean ones | 07:46 |
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| SQUelcher | My wife is just installing sailfish SDK on her computer... <3 | 09:03 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | SQUelcher: Oo | 09:11 |
| ggabriel | double edged sword ;) | 09:12 |
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| pp | hmpf, mobylife still waiting for spare parts (new display for my phone) :( | 10:54 |
| pp | wonder if 2.0 will be out before I get it back :-) | 10:54 |
| till- | I got a new display some weeks ago | 10:55 |
| pp | did they have to wait for parts back then? | 10:56 |
| till- | not that I noticed | 10:56 |
| till- | it took some time for care to respond to my messages though | 10:56 |
| till- | so it's possible to get new displays but no new batteries? :D | 10:57 |
| pp | or maybe they'll get the display at the same time they would get a new battery :-) | 10:58 |
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| krosos | "05:17:40 Yaniel krosos: problems with the usbnet module?" I'm not sure, there are instructions/recommendations on wiki.gentoo.org what to build in or set as module in the kernel for android phone usb ip support. the jolla is just not popping up as an ethernet card with those. | 11:19 |
| krosos | s/card/device thing | 11:19 |
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| Yaniel | you need to have the usbnet module loaded (RNDIS) | 11:19 |
| Yaniel | then it should appear as a network interface | 11:20 |
| Yaniel | you'll still have to assign it an IP address | 11:20 |
| krosos | what is loaded is.. let me check | 11:20 |
| krosos | exactly RNDIS is not loaded. USB_CONFIGFS_RNDIS [=n] others are. | 11:21 |
| Yaniel | the module name on arch is "usbnet" IIRC | 11:22 |
| Yaniel | well, RNDIS is the thing the jolla uses | 11:22 |
| krosos | "< > Ethernet Gadget (with CDC Ethernet support) (NEW)" who would have know.. okay, thanks | 11:24 |
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| TemeV | I just started thinking, how much damage can one cause with Karma on tjc? | 11:29 |
| TemeV | I mean, generating some karma with fake questions and aswers using a botnet is not that difficult | 11:30 |
| krosos | in kernel terms i also needs CONFIG_USB_ETH right | 11:30 |
| krosos | where options is "Ethernet Gadget (with CDC Ethernet support)" | 11:31 |
| Yaniel | I don't know about the kernel | 11:32 |
| Yaniel | but CONFIG_USB_ETH sounds reasonable | 11:32 |
| till- | are whatsup users getting banned (again)? | 11:32 |
| krosos | okay, i try it in some time after recompiling. thanks so far Yaniel | 11:33 |
| TemeV | Oh, 200 is enough for editing and closing questions. So the spammers could quite easily start messing up valid questions... Let's see when they figure that out :) | 11:33 |
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| the_mgt | TemeV: that whole system is kind of stupid, like most forum ranking systems | 11:35 |
| TemeV | Yeah, I just noticed that I have the "maximum karma" already | 11:35 |
| TemeV | now, I just have to think what to do with my powers... *evil laughter* | 11:36 |
| the_mgt | and it is too easily earned, imho. of course you lose karma if you mess around, but.. | 11:37 |
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| TemeV | It seems 90% of my karma is from a single answer. That is way too much... | 11:40 |
| ggabriel | must have been a useful answer ;) | 11:41 |
| the_mgt | mine is from a question that borders on clickbaiting | 11:42 |
| TemeV | well, 31 upvotes, it's not that much. But it is enough to reach the 200 limit to get full powers | 11:42 |
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| ggabriel | TemeV: upvotes? :) | 11:43 |
| ggabriel | some reddit influence there? :) | 11:43 |
| TemeV | well, what are those up and down arrows called then? | 11:43 |
| ggabriel | votes? | 11:44 |
| ggabriel | it's fair enough the upvote anyway | 11:44 |
| ggabriel | just made me laugh | 11:44 |
| TemeV | and actually, I don't do reddit | 11:45 |
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| dv_ | spotify for sailfish? sweet! | 11:59 |
| dv_ | next: sailfish 2.0 for the phone :) | 12:00 |
| lukedirwalker | dv_: where spotify? | 12:01 |
| clau | CuteSpot | 12:02 |
| clau | it's in Store. But, it has limited functionality. First of all, you need a premium account, and then you will probably want to create play lists from the Android client or desktop. | 12:03 |
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| lukedirwalker | clau: I know CuteSpot, I'm the current maintainer :P just thought dv_ might have some information about official client | 12:04 |
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| clau | oh, _that_ lukedirtwalker. nice job with CuteSpot, thanks for maintaining it :) | 12:13 |
| pp | yea, I think they made one internally for a hackfest, but haven't released it | 12:14 |
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| lukedirwalker | thanks, recently haven't had much time to work on it though | 12:16 |
| Tofe | With the introduction of "trust" for the certificates, is the use of wpa_supplicant modified ? Does the path to the certificate bundle change? | 12:18 |
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| dv_ | lukedirwalker: http://www.jollausers.com/2015/06/spotify-for-sailfish-os-shown-on-video-not-public-yet/ | 12:24 |
| lukedirwalker | dv_: ah yeah but it is not sure if that will ever be publicly available. | 12:25 |
| dv_ | would be amazing though | 12:27 |
| dv_ | is cutespot based on libspotify? | 12:28 |
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| ggabriel | would it? isn't the guy coding it in his spare time? it'd be amazing if spotify supported that initial development, yes, but i'm not sure whether one guy's effort is amazing or any different to any other person's effort | 12:28 |
| dv_ | yeah, I assume it would be usable by non-premium users as well | 12:29 |
| dv_ | and that spotify would officially support it at some point | 12:29 |
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| dv_ | *that* would be amazing | 12:29 |
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| ggabriel | it's a no brainer... free dev _but_ they have to maintain an apparently non popular mobile os | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | i remember spotify said something non commital about all this | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | like nothing or we don't confirm/deny | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | and so on | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | or at least the dev said that even tho he worked for spotify, he spoke on his behalf only | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | in the meantime, soundcloud.com works just fine :P | 12:31 |
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| TemeV | Is spotify popular in India? If the Intex device gets some good sales there, Spotify might get more interested on supporting Sailfish | 12:35 |
| lukedirwalker | dv_: yes CuteSpot is based in libspotify | 12:35 |
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| Yaniel | spotify with lockscreen controls and maybe partnerspace(?) could be nice | 12:36 |
| Yaniel | ...at least if it can properly handle local files | 12:36 |
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| TemeV | Somekind of integrated media app would be nice. Spotify, local files, internet radio, etc. all in one app | 12:37 |
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| Yaniel | yes | 12:38 |
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| tadzik | on the latest update it takes *AGES* for jolla to get mobile network after a reboot. Just me? | 13:04 |
| ggabriel | tadzik: latest ea? or latest ga? | 13:04 |
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| tadzik | ea | 13:20 |
| ggabriel | ah, can't comment there i'm afraid | 13:20 |
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| krosos | so i still get no connection. should i paste you some outputs in a file online or should I try #gentoo directly? | 15:04 |
| krosos | well, no connection: i need usb ip to the jolla, which does not happen although I have the modules loaded | 15:05 |
| ggabriel | krosos: recovery mode or normal? | 15:06 |
| krosos | recovery mode, the phone is borked at the moment | 15:06 |
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| ggabriel | uhm... it connected to mine straight away | 15:06 |
| krosos | i pressed volume down + power on, connected USB to computer, nothing | 15:06 |
| ggabriel | define "nothing" | 15:07 |
| krosos | i get readings that it is a jolla and so on, but no new eth device | 15:07 |
| ggabriel | are you trying to start eth1 or usb0? | 15:07 |
| ggabriel | as in /etc/init.d/net.eth1 start | 15:07 |
| krosos | well i did 'ip a' and no changes | 15:07 |
| krosos | or in devices | 15:07 |
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| krosos | nothing new | 15:07 |
| ggabriel | uhm... can't test atm tbh | 15:08 |
| krosos | it's been a while, but USB IP still needs a valid device to start before i can /etc/init.d/net.name | 15:08 |
| ggabriel | i do remember having to start something though | 15:08 |
| krosos | let me paste a combined output. | 15:09 |
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| ggabriel | you have usbnet loaded, right? | 15:10 |
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| krosos | https://ptpb.pw/TGYw yes. but i'll check again | 15:12 |
| ggabriel | you sure that's recovery? that mass storage is really weird | 15:13 |
| ggabriel | oh, says product: recovery | 15:13 |
| krosos | durrrrrr. not loaded. okay, i try to load it first, i assumed it was loaded. but lsmod | grep usb gives me exactly nothing | 15:13 |
| ggabriel | sorry i can't help... maybe somebody else can give you an lsusb -v of the jolla device for you to compare | 15:14 |
| ggabriel | ofc if you miss something, it's a matter of kernel modules | 15:14 |
| ggabriel | i can't help right now* (what i meant) | 15:15 |
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| krosos | yes, that would be nice. well, i compiled the modules in which I think were needed after talking to someone here earlier. | 15:15 |
| krosos | okay | 15:15 |
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| krosos | but thanks :) | 15:15 |
| ggabriel | i have gentoo and it worked in, erm, march :P | 15:15 |
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| krosos | that's the current part of my kernel for | grep USB_NET : https://ptpb.pw/t3O6 | 15:23 |
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| krosos | from my understanding it should work. | 15:24 |
| krosos | because i also have https://ptpb.pw/O6jr | 15:24 |
| ggabriel | krosos: i've got CONFIG_USB_NET_RNDIS_HOST=m | 15:24 |
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| ggabriel | cdc_subset is m too | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | cdc* is m actually | 15:25 |
| krosos | oh, i need the host. i thought this was virtual machine related. | 15:25 |
| krosos | that could be the issue | 15:25 |
| krosos | thanks! | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | ah, man | 15:25 |
| krosos | i'll try | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | if you put y, reboot | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | if you put m, reload kernel module | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | in the past, some drivers worked with m and not y | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | not sure we're past those dark ages or not | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | s/man/being/ | 15:26 |
| krosos | i'm new to gentoo.. okay. | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | as i don't know the gender :P | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | anyway, yeah | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | reboot, safest | 15:26 |
| tigeli | tbr: now we have set another barrier for spammers, let's see if they can pass it :D | 15:26 |
| ggabriel | add the rndis for fun (as m) | 15:26 |
| tbr | tigeli: nice :) | 15:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | tigeli: what kind of barrier ? I have seen nothign atm | 15:33 |
| tigeli | SfietKonstantinW: because the spammers are being automatically blocked ;) | 15:33 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I mean: I have seen nothing preventing me to post (capcha or anything) | 15:34 |
| ggabriel | maybe your user is trusted | 15:35 |
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| tigeli | SfietKonstantinW: https://together.jolla.com/question/100206/spam-prevention-at-tjc/?comment=101850#comment-101850 ;) | 15:36 |
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| tigeli | SfietKonstantinW: try posting posts which mostly have only non-ascii chars | 15:37 |
| tigeli | (or don't) | 15:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok :) | 15:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so chinese and indian people won't be happy :P | 15:37 |
| tigeli | well, they still should only use english | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | isn't there a rule that says you have to write in english? | 15:38 |
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| krosos | it works! at least in output and autoconnection. | 16:07 |
| ggabriel | krosos: :) | 16:07 |
| krosos | [ 77.497685] rndis_host 1-2:1.0 eth0: register 'rndis_host' at usb-0000:00:14.0-2, RNDIS device, 00:01:02:03:04:0 | 16:07 |
| ggabriel | eth0? | 16:07 |
| ggabriel | uhm... | 16:07 |
| ggabriel | don't you have wired eth in your computer? | 16:07 |
| krosos | yeah, got renamed and all | 16:07 |
| ggabriel | ok | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | you will have to assign an ip manually me thinks | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | not sure dhcp works there | 16:08 |
| krosos | -> "[ 77.544517] systemd-udevd[4503]: renamed network interface eth0 to enp0s20u2" | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | i lost all respect for you now | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | ;) | 16:08 |
| krosos | i don't have systemd | 16:08 |
| krosos | it's just that part | 16:08 |
| ggabriel | ok, maybe regaining respect a little bit :P | 16:09 |
| ggabriel | yeah, ok, just assign ip and go | 16:09 |
| krosos | no, networkmanager + dhcp autoassigned adress | 16:09 |
| ggabriel | i'm sure you have the ip in tjc somewhere | 16:09 |
| ggabriel | oh, works? cool | 16:09 |
| ggabriel | i never actually tried | 16:09 |
| krosos | i'll try now with telnet | 16:09 |
| krosos | well... after 'emerge telnet' | 16:10 |
| ggabriel | ha | 16:10 |
| ggabriel | use nc otherwise | 16:10 |
| krosos | my laptops have telnet. | 16:10 |
| krosos | nc? | 16:10 |
| ggabriel | netcat | 16:10 |
| ggabriel | i'm joking (kind of) | 16:10 |
| ggabriel | telnet is easier | 16:10 |
| krosos | kernel configuring can be tricky but coming from archlinux the gentoo learning curve wasn't that high, kernel gets easier | 16:12 |
| Coolgeek | Master Lennart guide us. Master Lennart teach us. Master Lennart protect us. In your light we thrive. In your mercy we are sheltered. In your wisdom we are humbled. We live only to serve. Our lives are yours. | 16:12 |
| * Coolgeek hide | 16:12 | |
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| ggabriel | krosos: it's a lost art ;) | 16:17 |
| krosos | psyced still offers telnet if you configure it that way. telnet(and other legacy protocolls) over tor. | 16:18 |
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| krosos | contacts (phonebook) are in /home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged/Contacts/qtcontacts-sqlite/ ? | 16:33 |
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| pdanek | So the Indian phone manufacturer is gonna make just some $155 Sailfish OS device. | 17:10 |
| pdanek | Nothing high-end. | 17:10 |
| pdanek | I doubt it will replace our Jollas. | 17:10 |
| pdanek | If it will be better than Jolla, then there is no reason why should anyone still buy 250EUR Jolla anymore, only for TOH maybe. | 17:11 |
| Yaniel | source? | 17:11 |
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| ninnnu | IIRC the specs weren't particularly better than Jolla's. | 17:16 |
| Coolgeek | erf, my order is still in "In pucking" state >_< | 17:17 |
| Coolgeek | picking* | 17:18 |
| r0kk3rz | specs arent even really announced yet | 17:21 |
| r0kk3rz | so who knows what it will look like | 17:21 |
| Coolgeek | I know what it will look like | 17:21 |
| Coolgeek | it will looki like a phone | 17:22 |
| * Coolgeek hide | 17:22 | |
| ninnnu | r0kk3rz: At least the reference model had Snapdragon 410 (1,4Ghz quad-core), 1GB RAM, 8GB internal storage | 17:22 |
| ninnnu | The one they showed at MWC | 17:22 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah but is that what they will run with? | 17:23 |
| ninnnu | I don't think it'll differ much | 17:23 |
| r0kk3rz | there were several reports, and they were all different | 17:23 |
| ninnnu | Yeah | 17:23 |
| r0kk3rz | so until they launch an actual device, im remaining skeptical | 17:23 |
| pp | telnet is not a replacement for nc (and vice-versa :-) ) | 17:24 |
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| Lipevakala_ | pdanek: Maybe more taan one? But read this to the end.... http://www.forbes.com/sites/ewanspence/2015/07/18/jolla-licences-sailfish-os-2-0/ | 17:30 |
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| pdanek | Lipevakala_: yes, I read it before, but the others will come later, I need Jolla replacement asap haha | 17:38 |
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| Stskeeps | pdanek: how is jolla1 highend? :P | 17:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek: buy another jolla then :P | 17:57 |
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| krosos | does jolla recognize ext4 formated micro sd cards? | 18:31 |
| Yaniel | yes | 18:31 |
| krosos | okay, good. time to try n fix it | 18:31 |
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| krosos | unmounting volumes on the jolla takes it good long time.. | 18:53 |
| krosos | actually way too long. | 18:56 |
| krosos | okay, telnet's fault. never mind me. | 18:57 |
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| krosos | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode- -> 1. Download the "recovery-menu" (~19.8Kb) file attached to this article, and save it on your PC. <- isn't that obsolete with recovery-menu being on the jolla now? (I'm not sure if that's the default, factory case) | 19:01 |
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| krosos | well this factory reset script.. how often is "you may have to repeat this a couple of times"? after "mounting...." i get no further telnet output. | 19:08 |
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| krosos | do i need to set "3) Bootloader unlock [Current state: locked]" to unlocked before the reset script finishes? | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | bootloader unlock is raarely needed | 19:36 |
| krosos | well, i tried it 6 times now and it's stuck at: https://ptpb.pw/2RFh.png | 19:36 |
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| krosos | i'll just try to contact support tomorrow. i can't get it unstuck. | 19:48 |
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