| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@x55b32733.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 00:07 | |
| *** Teemu <Teemu!uid15744@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-afpjoksqiofulmmg> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) | 00:09 | |
| *** BBLobste_ <BBLobste_!~BBLobster@37.235.134.252> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 00:25 | |
| *** birdzhang-jolla <birdzhang-jolla!~birdzhang@112.96.100.86> has joined #jollamobile | 00:25 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@159.175.24.109.rev.sfr.net> has joined #jollamobile | 00:31 | |
| *** birdzhang-jolla <birdzhang-jolla!~birdzhang@112.96.100.86> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 00:45 | |
| *** ZeiP <ZeiP!zeip@shell.zeip.eu> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 00:52 | |
| *** ZeiP <ZeiP!zeip@shell.zeip.eu> has joined #jollamobile | 00:52 | |
| *** chriadam|away is now known as chriadam | 01:13 | |
| *** Shanita <Shanita!~John@xd9be00e1.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 01:17 | |
| *** Kaskuka <Kaskuka!~John@x4d01e744.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 01:21 | |
| *** petrisi <petrisi!petrisi@limbo.freebsd.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 01:26 | |
| *** KaIRC <KaIRC!~robert@88-117-35-119.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 01:59 | |
| *** Kabouik <Kabouik!~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 02:42 | |
| *** HtheB <HtheB!~HtheB@sd5111184.adsl.online.nl> has quit IRC () | 02:49 | |
| *** natunen <natunen!~nalle@87-100-171-62.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 02:49 | |
| *** jfred <jfred!~quassel@pool-108-24-117-95.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) | 03:10 | |
| *** jfred_ is now known as jfred | 03:10 | |
| *** jfred_ <jfred_!~quassel@pool-108-24-117-95.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has joined #jollamobile | 03:10 | |
| *** jfred_ <jfred_!~quassel@pool-108-24-117-95.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 03:40 | |
| *** jfred_ <jfred_!~quassel@pool-108-24-117-95.cmdnnj.fios.verizon.net> has joined #jollamobile | 03:41 | |
| *** itbaron <itbaron!~kvirc@a91-155-238-87.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 03:59 | |
| *** Behold <Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 04:10 | |
| *** martyone <martyone!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has joined #jollamobile | 04:16 | |
| *** protem <protem!~protem@unaffiliated/protem> has joined #jollamobile | 04:19 | |
| *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc4-hitc7-2-0-cust744.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 04:35 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has joined #jollamobile | 04:41 | |
| *** restless_being <restless_being!ext@2a02:ee0:dead::1:1> has quit IRC (Read error: No route to host) | 04:55 | |
| *** restless_being <restless_being!ext@kernel.v6.panic.pl> has joined #jollamobile | 04:55 | |
| *** PeperJohnny <PeperJohnny!~johnny@dslb-178-003-028-109.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #jollamobile | 05:00 | |
| *** Morpog_PC <Morpog_PC!~Morpog_PC@185.8.85.171> has joined #jollamobile | 05:06 | |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-access-5d6a52-190.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 05:11 | |
| *** PeperJohnny <PeperJohnny!~johnny@dslb-178-003-028-109.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 05:18 | |
| *** Peper <Peper!~johnny@dslb-178-003-028-109.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #jollamobile | 05:18 | |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-access-5d6a52-190.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 05:19 | |
| *** Teemu <Teemu!uid15744@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-moryecufznxrvirj> has joined #jollamobile | 05:21 | |
| *** Peper <Peper!~johnny@dslb-178-003-028-109.178.003.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 05:34 | |
| *** protem <protem!~protem@unaffiliated/protem> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 05:39 | |
| Morpog_PC | http://indianexpress.com/article/technology/mobile-tabs/intex-to-launch-smartwatch-and-sailfish-2-0-smartphone-at-mwc-shanghai/ | 05:44 |
|---|---|---|
| Morpog_PC | http://www.gizbot.com/mobile/news/mwc-shanghai-2015-intex-showcases-aqua-fish-smartphone-with-sailfish-os-2-0-and-more-026654.html | 05:45 |
| Morpog_PC | I need something more powerful and more sexy :D | 05:46 |
| TemeV | Oh well, if that brings some Indian money to the house, it is good news. Otherwise, the device doesn't look that interesting | 05:49 |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@37.120.13.86> has joined #jollamobile | 05:51 | |
| *** cloanta_ <cloanta_!~sailfish@188.189.36.209> has joined #jollamobile | 05:52 | |
| tbr | IMO it's just a variant of the SbJ device. specs and design are similar | 05:55 |
| *** cloanta <cloanta!~sailfish@42.157-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 05:55 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-33-5.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 05:57 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-9-28.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 05:58 | |
| *** Nokius|mobile <Nokius|mobile!~Nokius|mo@46.189.65.154> has joined #jollamobile | 06:00 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-9-28.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 06:02 | |
| *** Nokius|mobile <Nokius|mobile!~Nokius|mo@46.189.65.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 06:05 | |
| *** cloanta_ <cloanta_!~sailfish@188.189.36.209> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 06:08 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@37.120.13.86> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 06:08 | |
| *** Nokius|mobile <Nokius|mobile!~Nokius|mo@46.189.65.154> has joined #jollamobile | 06:12 | |
| Stskeeps | wait for more official news :) | 06:12 |
| Stskeeps | (coming from the guy who's on vacation and goes back to his cave..) | 06:14 |
| pp | cheaper! | 06:15 |
| pp | well, same price with VAT :P | 06:15 |
| cybette | we'll have press event tomorrow with official news, please wait to hear more like Stskeeps said :) | 06:17 |
| Nicd- | 1 GB RAM :( | 06:21 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) | 06:23 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-1-120-182-247.qcl9.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #jollamobile | 06:30 | |
| *** Milhouse <Milhouse!~Milhouse@kodi/staff/milhouse> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 06:31 | |
| *** roboro <roboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #jollamobile | 06:34 | |
| *** korsakov <korsakov!~korsakov@unaffiliated/korsakov> has joined #jollamobile | 06:40 | |
| Yaniel | 720p display is bigger than in SbJ though | 06:43 |
| Yaniel | iirc | 06:44 |
| Nicd- | what is SbJ? the original one? | 06:46 |
| locusf | yeh | 06:46 |
| *** patinux <patinux!~patinux@unaffiliated/patinux> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 06:46 | |
| *** XenoPL <XenoPL!~Xeno@178-36-241-67.adsl.inetia.pl> has joined #jollamobile | 06:46 | |
| Nicd- | where does the Sb come from? | 06:46 |
| Stskeeps | "sailfish by jolla" | 06:47 |
| locusf | I've jokingly put it as "sailboat jolla" :) | 06:47 |
| Nicd- | ah | 06:48 |
| Nicd- | maybe we should refer to it as the JP-1301 :P | 06:49 |
| Morpog_PC | Snapdragon 410 is also good, same with bigger battery | 06:49 |
| *** XenoPL <XenoPL!~Xeno@178-36-241-67.adsl.inetia.pl> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 06:49 | |
| Morpog_PC | just 1g ram and 8gb internal storage is baaaaaad | 06:49 |
| Morpog_PC | It looks alot like a lumia | 06:50 |
| Yaniel | that's the bezel | 06:51 |
| *** XenoPL <XenoPL!~Xeno@178-36-241-67.adsl.inetia.pl> has joined #jollamobile | 06:51 | |
| Morpog_PC | http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/intex-to-unveil-first-smartphone-with-sailfish-os-20-at-mwc-shanghai-715542 | 06:51 |
| Morpog_PC | oh, there it says Snadragon 600 | 06:51 |
| Yaniel | let's get this speculation train going then | 06:52 |
| Nicd- | it's gonna have 32 cores | 06:52 |
| Yaniel | *32 CUDA cores | 06:52 |
| Stskeeps | friggen lasers. | 06:53 |
| Nicd- | lasers confirmed by Stskeeps | 06:53 |
| Morpog_PC | Snapdragon 600 would be great, enough cpu power and alot less power hungry than snapdragon 808/810 | 06:53 |
| Nicd- | it's gonna come with a copy of Half Life 3 | 06:53 |
| birdzhang | 4096P XD | 06:53 |
| inz | what do you do with lasers, if there are no sharks? | 06:53 |
| Yaniel | Nicd-: so where are my sharks? | 06:53 |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@80.73.213.34> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 06:54 | |
| Morpog_PC | I got that feeling, that we may see a variant of that device sold by new Jolla HW company | 06:54 |
| Nicd- | sharks had to be removed due to budget cuts | 06:54 |
| Yaniel | :( | 06:55 |
| TemeV | lasers, sharks? I thought sharks are supposed to be killed with chainsaw | 06:55 |
| Morpog_PC | with more ram and internal storage of course :D | 06:55 |
| Yaniel | TemeV: nono the sharks are supposed to kill with lasers | 06:55 |
| TemeV | ok, the do it wrong in sharknado then | 06:55 |
| TemeV | *they | 06:55 |
| inz | no, they do it quite right, the sharks are just lame no-laser-sharks | 06:56 |
| inz | If they were the kickass Austin Powers sharks, with frigging lasers, you would be dead before you even get the chainsaw running | 06:57 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has joined #jollamobile | 06:59 | |
| *** Milhouse <Milhouse!~Milhouse@host86-155-193-251.range86-155.btcentralplus.com> has joined #jollamobile | 07:00 | |
| *** Milhouse <Milhouse!~Milhouse@host86-155-193-251.range86-155.btcentralplus.com> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 07:00 | |
| *** Milhouse <Milhouse!~Milhouse@kodi/staff/milhouse> has joined #jollamobile | 07:00 | |
| TemeV | oh, sorry, I missed the reference. It must be decade or two when I last time watched any Austin Powers :) | 07:02 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 07:03 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has joined #jollamobile | 07:04 | |
| kimmoli | sharknado 6 , now sharks with friggin lazers | 07:04 |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@89.111.237.28> has joined #jollamobile | 07:11 | |
| *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc4-hitc7-2-0-cust744.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #jollamobile | 07:12 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:13 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:15 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 07:21 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has joined #jollamobile | 07:21 | |
| Morpog_PC | pic overview: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1476656#post1476656 | 07:22 |
| Morpog_PC | it looks kinda thick | 07:25 |
| *** dv_ <dv_!~quassel@chello062178118086.5.14.vie.surfer.at> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 07:27 | |
| *** ecloud <ecloud!quassel@nat/digia/x-kcuhkrvznrnfiajm> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 07:28 | |
| *** dv_ <dv_!~quassel@chello062178118086.5.14.vie.surfer.at> has joined #jollamobile | 07:28 | |
| *** ecloud <ecloud!quassel@nat/digia/x-xyumkcaiagapfyfi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:28 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 07:28 | |
| *** janih_ <janih_!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:30 | |
| *** citylight2 <citylight2!~me@bzq-218-29-26.cablep.bezeqint.net> has joined #jollamobile | 07:31 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 07:32 | |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has joined #jollamobile | 07:33 | |
| *** janih_ <janih_!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 07:33 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!samuel@nat/intel/x-gaynumpqecyvzkom> has joined #jollamobile | 07:33 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~zzzz@p5486DBAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 07:35 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@159.175.24.109.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: My laptop has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 07:35 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!samuel@nat/intel/x-gaynumpqecyvzkom> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 07:38 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.38> has joined #jollamobile | 07:38 | |
| *** HarhaanJohtaja <HarhaanJohtaja!~Tarja@host-109-204-178-212.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net> has joined #jollamobile | 07:39 | |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has joined #jollamobile | 07:40 | |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@89.111.237.28> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 07:41 | |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 07:44 | |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has joined #jollamobile | 07:44 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) | 07:46 | |
| birdzhang | Only 8GB internal storage??? WTF? | 07:47 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has joined #jollamobile | 07:49 | |
| Teme | well i'm glad i made the switch to android and didn't wait for a sailfish device... 1GB of RAM makes me sad :( | 07:49 |
| Teme | only reason i had to swith off of Jolla 1 | 07:50 |
| Stskeeps | guys, wait for official news | 07:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :D | 07:51 |
| Stskeeps | you're speculating at this point | 07:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Jolla tablet is nice though :) | 07:51 |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:52 | |
| birdzhang | wait for official news | 07:52 |
| birdzhang | wait for sailfish for nexus 5 from official | 07:53 |
| birdzhang | :D | 07:53 |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has joined #jollamobile | 07:53 | |
| Scelt | Stskeeps: You know people cannot wait... We are as keen as a Commander Keen can be | 07:54 |
| *** wmarone_ <wmarone_!~wmarone@c-24-10-24-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has joined #jollamobile | 07:54 | |
| Stskeeps | damnit, now i might have to play that all summer | 07:54 |
| Scelt | Stskeeps: you're welcome: http://store.steampowered.com/app/9180/ | 07:55 |
| *** wmarone__ <wmarone__!~wmarone@c-24-10-24-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 07:55 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has joined #jollamobile | 07:56 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@natr.physik.hu-berlin.de> has joined #jollamobile | 07:56 | |
| Yaniel | Scelt: why u do this | 07:57 |
| *** tworaz <tworaz!~tworaz@212.180.237.71> has joined #jollamobile | 07:58 | |
| Scelt | in Finland we this weather condition called RAINY SUMMER | 07:58 |
| Scelt | +have | 07:58 |
| Scelt | Rainy day + Keen = Superb | 07:58 |
| Nicd- | this summer has just been cold | 07:59 |
| Scelt | Cold + Rainy + Keen = Superber | 07:59 |
| Nicd- | I've been spending my summer with Deus Ex: HR | 08:00 |
| Nicd- | it's a lovely game | 08:00 |
| Yaniel | is that the one with the bud light filter? | 08:00 |
| Nicd- | yes :D | 08:02 |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 08:03 | |
| *** phinaliumz <phinaliumz!~phinalium@olohuone.kortex.jyu.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:04 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:04 | |
| phlixi | no OLED? *sadface | 08:05 |
| *** janih_ <janih_!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:09 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 08:10 | |
| *** janih_ <janih_!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 08:13 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:13 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 08:19 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 08:21 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 08:21 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has joined #jollamobile | 08:21 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 08:23 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@91.208.181.163> has joined #jollamobile | 08:23 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@91.208.181.163> has joined #jollamobile | 08:24 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@91.208.181.163> has joined #jollamobile | 08:26 | |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has joined #jollamobile | 08:29 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@91.208.181.163> has joined #jollamobile | 08:29 | |
| *** tonyoy <tonyoy!~ay@134.117.39.62.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 08:33 | |
| *** tonyoy <tonyoy!~ay@134.117.39.62.rev.sfr.net> has joined #jollamobile | 08:34 | |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@109.110.67.226> has joined #jollamobile | 08:34 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 08:34 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 08:34 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has joined #jollamobile | 08:34 | |
| lainwir3d | o/ | 08:36 |
| lainwir3d | Finally got around irc blocking at work | 08:36 |
| ggabriel | yeah, it's cute when they want to block stuff | 08:40 |
| lainwir3d | yeah | 08:40 |
| lainwir3d | just had to configure my vpn properly actually (so that I can still access stuff on work network to pretend to work), just didn't have time to do it until now | 08:41 |
| *** cb400f <cb400f!~cb400f@opensuse/member/Cb400f> has joined #jollamobile | 08:46 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:46 | |
| *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo | 08:48 | |
| *** Osanwe <Osanwe!~Osanwe@a146.sub72.net78.udm.net> has joined #jollamobile | 08:52 | |
| tadzik | 1G of ram? :o | 08:54 |
| tadzik | hard to tell if it's think without a banana for scale | 08:56 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #jollamobile | 08:57 | |
| ggabriel | well, it's all speculation | 08:58 |
| ggabriel | but if it's going to be a cheap phone, what do you expect? :) | 08:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | >200€ | 08:59 |
| *** avey <avey!~avey@p5792DF82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 08:59 | |
| lainwir3d | wait... what ? what phone ? | 09:01 |
| Nicd- | lainwir3d: http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/intex-to-unveil-first-smartphone-with-sailfish-os-20-at-mwc-shanghai-715542 | 09:02 |
| Nicd- | actual info tomorrow, this is speculation | 09:02 |
| Yaniel | tadzik: banana phone? | 09:02 |
| *** phlixi <phlixi!~phlixi@host-188-174-219-37.customer.m-online.net> has quit IRC () | 09:08 | |
| *** patinux <patinux!~patinux@unaffiliated/patinux> has joined #jollamobile | 09:09 | |
| *** inte` is now known as inte_away | 09:09 | |
| *** taaem <taaem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 09:09 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 09:10 | |
| attah | looks like the TOHs might fit.. but it's edges are different | 09:12 |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 09:12 | |
| ggabriel | attah: erm... hopefully toh's won't fit, or they have another format | 09:13 |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 09:13 | |
| attah | ggabriel: sounds like you want a bigger phone? | 09:13 |
| ggabriel | no | 09:13 |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has joined #jollamobile | 09:13 | |
| attah | what then? | 09:14 |
| ggabriel | well, maintaining toh format would put too many constraints on the phone design | 09:14 |
| *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has joined #jollamobile | 09:14 | |
| attah | true | 09:15 |
| attah | but it kinda looks like it is the same | 09:15 |
| ggabriel | i'm not talking about dimensions | 09:15 |
| ggabriel | i mean, it'd be nice, but in practice not really | 09:15 |
| ggabriel | think about the position of the connectors | 09:15 |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 09:16 | |
| attah | i'm talking about dimmensions and camera+flash.. that looks really similar | 09:16 |
| ggabriel | so then toh's may fit but won't do anything :) | 09:16 |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 09:17 | |
| attah | i agree that the connectors too add limitations.. but i think they just might have worked with that | 09:18 |
| lainwir3d | having the ability to change the color might be enough in my book :P | 09:18 |
| TMavica | Only 1 GB ram is not satis.. | 09:20 |
| ggabriel | speculation :) | 09:20 |
| *** phlixi <phlixi!~phlixi@host-188-174-219-37.customer.m-online.net> has joined #jollamobile | 09:20 | |
| ggabriel | also, 1gb is plenty so long as you don't run android | 09:20 |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 09:20 | |
| taaem | Hopefully tomorrow there are more news | 09:20 |
| ggabriel | (or webkit :P ) | 09:20 |
| ggabriel | there will | 09:21 |
| taaem | I mean about maybe another phone with higher specs for Europe | 09:21 |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 09:22 | |
| *** janih <janih!~quassel@a88-114-142-167.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 09:22 | |
| ggabriel | hopefully somebody will do that | 09:22 |
| ggabriel | maybe jolla mobile oy ;) | 09:23 |
| sakustar | original jolla is fine | 09:24 |
| sakustar | only woe is the camera but i can just keep a few more phones with me | 09:24 |
| ggabriel | i may buy another jolla actually :P | 09:24 |
| sakustar | everyone has 2 or 3 on their person at all times no? :O | 09:25 |
| ggabriel | sakustar: yup | 09:25 |
| TMavica | Sell in october? | 09:25 |
| TMavica | It is damb cheap. | 09:25 |
| TMavica | Fly to india to buy, and come back in same day | 09:25 |
| taaem | But the specs aren't very good | 09:25 |
| ggabriel | TMavica: you fail to value time | 09:26 |
| taaem | Also Fairphone said that they will announce big news soon | 09:27 |
| TMavica | ggabriel: my air ticket is very cheap | 09:27 |
| TMavica | Should be 200 HKD, that means 19 euro | 09:28 |
| TMavica | Come back in same day | 09:28 |
| ggabriel | TMavica: you didn't get my point :) my hours on a plane are way more expensive than what i'd save | 09:28 |
| TMavica | O. U? Lol. Surely | 09:28 |
| *** chriadam is now known as chriadam|away | 09:29 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | taaem: I'm not sure it is related to SFOS | 09:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I guess: no | 09:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | maybe they picked TizUbuntu | 09:30 |
| TMavica | The look of it look same as Jolla | 09:30 |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-53-152-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 09:31 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~quassel@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has joined #jollamobile | 09:31 | |
| taaem | SfietKonstantinW: i guess we have to wait and see what happens | 09:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yep | 09:32 |
| *** KaIRC <KaIRC!~robert@178-191-185-150.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #jollamobile | 09:38 | |
| *** Sage__ <Sage__!sage@kapsi.fi> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 09:42 | |
| *** Sage__ <Sage__!sage@unaffiliated/sage> has joined #jollamobile | 09:42 | |
| *** Sage__ is now known as Sage | 09:43 | |
| *** tworaz <tworaz!~tworaz@212.180.237.71> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 09:47 | |
| *** tworaz <tworaz!~tworaz@212.180.237.71> has joined #jollamobile | 09:49 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@82.113.121.4> has joined #jollamobile | 09:52 | |
| *** BBLobste_ <BBLobste_!~BBLobster@37.235.134.252> has joined #jollamobile | 09:53 | |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-access-5d6a52-190.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 09:53 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@82.113.121.4> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 09:54 | |
| *** taaem <taaem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 09:54 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@89.204.130.168> has joined #jollamobile | 09:55 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 09:57 | |
| dr_gogeta86 | btw I like sailfishOs signature on the back | 09:58 |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@89.204.130.168> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 10:00 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 10:00 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 10:03 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has joined #jollamobile | 10:12 | |
| tadzik | it's a nice detail, yes | 10:16 |
| *** jpetrell <jpetrell!~jpetrell@2001:998:2a:dead:7c5f:c1e5:1b13:f227> has joined #jollamobile | 10:18 | |
| entil | that intex looks nice :o | 10:19 |
| entil | too bad about the tohkbd | 10:20 |
| *** BBLobste_ is now known as BBLobster_ | 10:24 | |
| *** BBLobster_ <BBLobster_!~BBLobster@37.235.134.252> has quit IRC () | 10:28 | |
| *** BBLobster <BBLobster!BBLobster@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-fppzlaytfiykxeaa> has joined #jollamobile | 10:28 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-53-152-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: outworld) | 10:29 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 10:35 | |
| *** nh1402 <nh1402!~nh1402@95.148.89.50> has joined #jollamobile | 10:35 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 10:36 | |
| nh1402 | Congrats for the new Salifish Alliance partner and accompanying phone | 10:39 |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 10:39 | |
| cb400f | nh1402: link me, link me, link me | 10:42 |
| nh1402 | its mentioned in the log | 10:43 |
| cb400f | yup, found it | 10:43 |
| nh1402 | the phone is being released tomorrow. | 10:43 |
| nh1402 | announced* | 10:43 |
| Nicd- | you mean Intex? | 10:44 |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has joined #jollamobile | 10:44 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 10:45 | |
| cb400f | ooh nice, I expected a "deal" to be announced... I didn't expect the phone to be almost ready for market | 10:46 |
| nh1402 | Nicd-: yes, Intex. A phone is being demoed with Sailfish whether thats the phone in question we'll find out tomorrow | 10:46 |
| *** xfade_ <xfade_!~xfade@81.82.255.216> has joined #jollamobile | 10:47 | |
| flux | how is the Aqua in any way better than the current Jolla mobile?-o cheaper? | 10:47 |
| flux | well, maybe it has beefier CPU, and larger display? but apparently it still has 1 gigabyte of memory | 10:48 |
| flux | ..which will run out even sooner with bigger framebuffers | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | wait for official news :) | 10:48 |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 10:48 | |
| flux | no! I refuse to! | 10:48 |
| aard_ | 1.1.7 is going to early access about now: https://together.jolla.com/question/98953/release-notes-117-bjorntrasket/ -- and with that release it's goodbye from me as release manager | 10:48 |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 10:48 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has joined #jollamobile | 10:48 | |
| flux | aard_, was being one stressful?-) | 10:49 |
| nh1402 | like Stskeeps has said wait for official news. For all we know that could just be an early prototype | 10:49 |
| Scelt | aard_: oh. Where are you going? | 10:49 |
| ggabriel | aard_: thanks and wat? who'll do your job now? :) | 10:49 |
| cb400f | flux: aqua == the intex phone? .. or is that a different beast? | 10:49 |
| aard_ | flux: 2.5 jobs with only one paid ;) | 10:49 |
| flux | cb400f, yes | 10:49 |
| aard_ | Scelt: for now, concentrating on other areas, like security | 10:49 |
| attah | First release with a Swedish name, cool :) | 10:49 |
| Scelt | aard_: okay :) | 10:50 |
| cb400f | flux: for one, it seems to be a lot cheaper than the jolla... iirc the jolla was almost double price (29k rupees) | 10:50 |
| cb400f | so I guess it's not high-end hardware in the Intex either, but who needs that with Sailfish anyway | 10:50 |
| flux | it seems to be so close the Jolla form factor that it would be a waste if it doesn't support the same ToHs :) | 10:51 |
| Yaniel | hardware is overrated anyway | 10:51 |
| Yaniel | errr | 10:51 |
| *** oku <oku!olli@navakka.lnet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) | 10:51 | |
| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, some one eard me last month | 10:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Introduce certificate handling middleware (p11-kit). All crypto libraries now share one CA store. | 10:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but is it open ? | 10:51 |
| cb400f | \o/ "Possibility to choose different keyboard layouts for Bluetooth keyboards" | 10:52 |
| Scelt | aard_: is this coming from you too: The full changelog will be made available in a separate post shortly. | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | dr_gogeta86: i'm on vacation | 10:52 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:52 |
| aard_ | dr_gogeta86: is what open? | 10:52 |
| aard_ | Scelt: yes | 10:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | p11-kit | 10:52 |
| Scelt | ok, we'll wait | 10:52 |
| Nicd- | WTF | 10:52 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Certificate Handling middleware | 10:52 |
| Nicd- | is there no remorse on "restore" in the backup page?! | 10:52 |
| aard_ | dr_gogeta86: yes. http://p11-glue.freedesktop.org/p11-kit.html | 10:52 |
| Nicd- | FFFFFUUUUUUUUU | 10:52 |
| flux | nicd-, :) | 10:52 |
| flux | happiness ensues? | 10:53 |
| Yaniel | what's with this lake name though | 10:53 |
| Nicd- | was removing my backups | 10:53 |
| Nicd- | accidentally hit restore on some age old backup | 10:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | thx aard_ | 10:53 |
| flux | nicd-, party like it's 2013?! | 10:53 |
| dr_gogeta86 | but connman talk with it ? | 10:53 |
| Nicd- | thanks jolla UX team | 10:53 |
| Nicd- | :( | 10:53 |
| Yaniel | there really should be a link to gmaps or jarviwiki or whatever pointing to the lake | 10:53 |
| flux | one point for me for using backuppc to backup my jolla :P | 10:54 |
| Nicd- | it removed all my contacts | 10:54 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | http://www.digit.in/mobile-phones/intex-to-launch-first-smartphone-running-sailfish-os-20-on-thursday-26574.html | 10:54 |
| Nicd- | ... | 10:54 |
| flux | nicd-, but yeah, maybe you should make a TMO post about that.. | 10:54 |
| TemeV | http://www.jarviwiki.fi/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rntr%C3%A4sket_%2816.001.1.003%29 | 10:56 |
| Yaniel | Nicd-: but do you have a more recent backup? | 10:56 |
| Yaniel | ie. can you restore that now | 10:56 |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has joined #jollamobile | 10:57 | |
| Nicd- | no | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | because I was deleting them from the newest | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | until I hit restore | 10:57 |
| Nicd- | so the one I restored from is the latest | 10:57 |
| TemeV | "Option to prevent Android apps from accessing your contacts" \o/ | 10:57 |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-access-5d6a52-190.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 10:57 | |
| flux | I understand it can be beneficial storage-wise to get rid of all the backups once in a while.. | 10:57 |
| *** Lipevakala <Lipevakala!~sailfish@85-76-85-119-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 10:58 | |
| flux | ..but maybe not critical, as at least pictures are stored somehow external to the git repository | 10:58 |
| Nicd- | how can there be no remorse for restoring a backup?! | 10:58 |
| flux | there is, but it's been externalized to the user :P | 10:59 |
| *** Lipevakala_ <Lipevakala_!~sailfish@85-76-35-178-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | 11:00 | |
| flux | sorry, I feel like I'm not being sympathetic enough.. | 11:00 |
| Nicd- | well, goodbye contacts | 11:00 |
| Nicd- | hadn't even synced them because the fscking google sync doesn't work | 11:00 |
| Scelt | aard_: here a tag is "offical" instead of "official" https://together.jolla.com/question/98953/release-notes-117-bjorntrasket/ | 11:01 |
| cb400f | hmm.. looking at prices for Intex on snapdeal, it seems 15k rupees might actually mean the sfos2.0 phone will be just about their flagship model | 11:01 |
| flux | well, at least you're mostly no worse off compared to just breaking the phone | 11:01 |
| Nicd- | I'm feeling like breaking the phone right now | 11:01 |
| aard_ | Nicd-: and you don't have some external contacts database at least containing some of the contacts? | 11:02 |
| Stskeeps | Nicd-: filing a bug.. | 11:02 |
| Nicd- | Stskeeps: https://together.jolla.com/question/88947/system-backup-restore-no-confirmation/ | 11:02 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: i assume you didn't copy a more recent backup to the sd card? | 11:02 |
| Nicd- | aard_: they are in google contacts. but the contact sync has not worked since last summer | 11:02 |
| Nicd- | so most I can restore | 11:03 |
| flux | this sort of highlights how bugs go to tmo to die :/ | 11:03 |
| Nicd- | tmo or tjc? | 11:04 |
| flux | oops, tjc | 11:04 |
| ggabriel | flux: well, not many votes... | 11:04 |
| * ggabriel just votes fwiw | 11:05 | |
| flux | ggabriel, well, it would perhaps take one dedicated person to find out worthwhile issues, or it takes 100 jolla-owners to read through all the same posts and then decide to vote uniformly.. | 11:05 |
| ggabriel | true, it's not easy until you experience the issue | 11:05 |
| Nicd- | guess I might as well do a factory reset now to attempt to get the contact sync working | 11:07 |
| Nicd- | if it doesn't work after update | 11:07 |
| *** oku <oku!olli@navakka.lnet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 11:08 | |
| birdzhang | updating 1.1.7 | 11:08 |
| lainwir3d | "Update to PulseAudio 6.0, improving Bluetooth audio" | 11:08 |
| lainwir3d | YAY \o/ | 11:08 |
| xfade_ | Nicd-: You might also move your contacts.db* files out of the way and see if it isn't a corrupted sqlite db issue | 11:09 |
| Nicd- | "Deleting photo from Camera roll may also delete the previous photo." -- funny how this just keeps persisting across updates | 11:09 |
| Nicd- | xfade_: there were some contacts. like 5 | 11:09 |
| xfade_ | Nicd-: yeah, but we've seen some corruption in those dbs.. | 11:09 |
| xfade_ | sqlite doesn't like that :) | 11:10 |
| Nicd- | I did reset my contacts system with chriadam at one point. moved all the dbs etc | 11:10 |
| Nicd- | worked for 2 syncs and then died for the same reason | 11:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | update via ssh reverse proxy ? | 11:10 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I'll try to hit my face with a jolla brick | 11:10 |
| ggabriel | dr_gogeta86: or wait till you're home? | 11:11 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I'm badass | 11:11 |
| *** Nokius|mobile <Nokius|mobile!~Nokius|mo@46.189.65.154> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 11:11 | |
| xfade_ | Nicd-: Hmm for me it just works. Had some issues a long time ago, but has been ok for a long time too. | 11:12 |
| Nicd- | my error is "invalid contact detail type -1" or something like that | 11:13 |
| Wnt | yay! update day! :) | 11:17 |
| xfade_ | Wnt: Well, first balance day :) | 11:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | A simple question ... where is Mark ? | 11:18 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Is the new finding Waldo ? | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | shuttleworth? | 11:18 |
| Wnt | xfade_: I guess that was the "preparing for update" thing? it went pretty fast for me | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | dr_gogeta86: according to my facebook marc is busy driving motorcycles in norway | 11:19 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I hope well for him | 11:19 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is one of my dream, from italy to cape north with a vespa px | 11:19 |
| xfade_ | Wnt: no, it will come a bit later | 11:22 |
| xfade_ | Well, depends one which release you are coming from. And if the nightly balance thing actually ran. | 11:22 |
| cb400f | hmm.. latest Jolla price on snapdeal is also down to around 15k rs... wonder if it's "sold out" by coincidence ;-) | 11:23 |
| *** yunta is now known as celestial__star | 11:25 | |
| Teemu | hmm | 11:25 |
| *** Tofe <Tofe!Tofe@fiona.nas-admin.org> has joined #jollamobile | 11:25 | |
| tadzik | release! \o/ | 11:26 |
| Tofe | What is the consequence of p11-kit introduction, in practice ? More possibilities for handling certificates, like with WPA authentification? | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | a unified way to handle certificates across all apps | 11:27 |
| Yaniel | pretty sure WPA auth is one thing it'll help with | 11:28 |
| aard_ | Tofe: what just was said, plus, during the next releases we'll make sure all other bits using crypto plug into p11-kit as well, and make additional token storage available, so you can use pkcs11 for storing private keys as well | 11:29 |
| *** Moku <Moku!~John@xd9be00e1.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:30 | |
| Tofe | ok, great | 11:30 |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has joined #jollamobile | 11:30 | |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #jollamobile | 11:31 | |
| Yaniel | how's that changelog coming along? :D | 11:31 |
| *** FReaper-PC <FReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has joined #jollamobile | 11:31 | |
| *** cosmo_ <cosmo_!cosmo@coffee.modeemi.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 11:31 | |
| *** rostbach_ <rostbach_!itarik@ohm.tamk.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 11:31 | |
| *** saltsa_ <saltsa_!~joonas@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c01a-36.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 11:31 | |
| aard_ | as soon as I'm done with lunch | 11:31 |
| *** Mirv_ <Mirv_!~tajyrink@ubuntu/member/mirv> has joined #jollamobile | 11:31 | |
| Tofe | Recently I tried to use WPA-PEAP with a custom root certificate, but without success so far; maybe that will help | 11:31 |
| *** dist__ <dist__!dist@xen.ihme.org> has joined #jollamobile | 11:32 | |
| *** vals_ <vals_!~tex_vim@151.54.42.177> has joined #jollamobile | 11:32 | |
| *** keesj_ <keesj_!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has joined #jollamobile | 11:33 | |
| *** Lipevakala <Lipevakala!~sailfish@85-76-85-119-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 11:33 | |
| *** Kiranos_ <Kiranos_!~quassel@109.74.11.233> has joined #jollamobile | 11:34 | |
| *** tango_ <tango_!~tex_vim@151.54.42.177> has quit IRC (Disconnected by services) | 11:35 | |
| *** vals_ is now known as tango_ | 11:35 | |
| chem|st | Tofe: all that eduroam stuff is usually using a custom root cert | 11:36 |
| *** martyone <martyone!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** saltsa <saltsa!~joonas@dsl-hkibrasgw1-58c01a-36.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** roboro <roboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** rostbach <rostbach!itarik@ohm.tamk.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** cos- <cos-!cosmo@coffee.modeemi.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** Shanita <Shanita!~John@xd9be00e1.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** dist_ <dist_!dist@xen.ihme.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** Mirv <Mirv!~tajyrink@ubuntu/member/mirv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** Kiranos <Kiranos!~quassel@109.74.11.233> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 11:37 | |
| *** avey <avey!~avey@p5792DF82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Write error: Connection reset by peer) | 11:37 | |
| chem|st | Tofe: most important, the config is case sensitive for all input fields | 11:37 |
| tadzik | heh, Optiming in progress | 11:38 |
| tadzik | sounds like something from CSI Miami or something :) | 11:38 |
| Tofe | chem|st: yes, it's a bit tricky, and I don't know much in this field... Hopefully at worst it will just not connect. | 11:43 |
| chem|st | Tofe: pastebin your config (without passwds) and I help you along, also info on the network might be good to know | 11:44 |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 11:45 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:45 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: I'm using Roamer to help me, to I think the syntax is fine | 11:46 |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~androirc@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 11:46 | |
| *** Osanwe <Osanwe!~Osanwe@a146.sub72.net78.udm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | 11:46 | |
| *** taaeem <taaeem!~tim@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:48 | |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@mechs1.vub.ac.be> has joined #jollamobile | 11:48 | |
| dr_gogeta86 | any way to avoid optimization | 11:50 |
| Yaniel | no | 11:51 |
| xfade_ | dr_gogeta86: yes, but it is about the same risk as throwing your phone out of the window and hoping it still works afterwards :) | 11:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i'm manually balance | 11:51 |
| xfade_ | then it should be fast | 11:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | manually i push to 35% | 11:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | using balancer service rebootds | 11:51 |
| dr_gogeta86 | using balancer service reboots | 11:51 |
| *** japa-fi <japa-fi!~jani@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50dc54-11.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 11:52 | |
| *** keesj_ <keesj_!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 11:52 | |
| chem|st | Tofe: just an offer | 11:53 |
| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: if your device is balanced fine it probably skips it anyway, or does not take much time, as I do have the weekly balance just fine I do not even recognize that it does balance before an upgrade | 11:54 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I need a factory reset I got a bad state btrfs | 11:54 |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting) | 11:55 | |
| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: and "avoid optimization" is stupid in itself isn't it? | 11:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | choice | 11:55 |
| chem|st | dr_gogeta86: what do you mena by bad state? | 11:55 |
| dr_gogeta86 | balance cause kernel oops | 11:55 |
| xfade_ | dr_gogeta86: Are you on 1.1.6.27? | 11:56 |
| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 11:56 |
| *** Sailor-2gether <Sailor-2gether!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #jollamobile | 11:56 | |
| xfade_ | Hmm that kernel shouldn't oops on balance | 11:56 |
| Tofe | chem|st: basically what I'm using is this: http://pastebin.com/wFS4BFd6 | 11:56 |
| xfade_ | dr_gogeta86: One thing to try would be to really make sure you clean up a lot. Then it will balance a lot easier.. | 11:57 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I need another phone :-D | 11:57 |
| ggabriel | uhm... i wonder how long does it take my phone to rebalance | 11:58 |
| Tofe | ggabriel: depends on the level of balance you've chosen | 11:58 |
| *** Osanwe <Osanwe!~Osanwe@a74.sub72.net78.udm.net> has joined #jollamobile | 11:58 | |
| chem|st | Tofe: try CACertFile=/etc/ssl/certs/ca-bundle.crt | 11:58 |
| ggabriel | Tofe: default? whatever sfos does | 11:59 |
| chem|st | Tofe: for me setting something else fails | 11:59 |
| Yaniel | ggabriel: anything between 5 minutes and an hour | 11:59 |
| Tofe | chem|st: but will that include the root CA I have copied to the device ? | 11:59 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.253> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 11:59 | |
| chem|st | don't know if I added it at somepoint, if the cert is in the cert folder it should work just fine | 12:01 |
| Tofe | ok | 12:01 |
| *** Sailor-2gether <Sailor-2gether!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 12:01 | |
| chem|st | some people do not even have the cert line specified | 12:02 |
| *** Amber_ <Amber_!~Amber@140.207.22.58> has joined #jollamobile | 12:03 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #jollamobile | 12:03 | |
| dr_gogeta86 | btw the upgrade via reverse ssh tunnel seems to work | 12:04 |
| Scelt | full changelog still not available? | 12:04 |
| dr_gogeta86 | is a bit trick | 12:04 |
| Tofe | chem|st: my root CA cert is self-signed, and wpa_supplicant complains about that, maybe that's the problem here | 12:05 |
| xfade_ | Scelt: rpm is your friend ;) | 12:06 |
| dr_gogeta86 | Tofe, is a connman fault | 12:06 |
| Scelt | xfade_: exact command? | 12:06 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 12:06 | |
| xfade_ | Scelt: rpm -q --changelog <packagenamehere> | 12:06 |
| Scelt | xfade_: heh, thx. | 12:07 |
| Tofe | dr_gogeta86: oh... so no solution for that? | 12:07 |
| xfade_ | Scelt: We put a lot of energy in actually having changelogs in every rpm. | 12:08 |
| dr_gogeta86 | You need to Push Ca into CAs | 12:08 |
| chem|st | Tofe: ^^ | 12:08 |
| Scelt | xfade_: I believe that. It's easier for you to get full changelogs also | 12:08 |
| chem|st | Scelt: wait for aard_ finishing his lunch... | 12:09 |
| Scelt | just looping through the package nmes | 12:09 |
| xfade_ | Scelt: yep and to verify if a change is actually in the version you are running etc etc. | 12:09 |
| Scelt | xfade_: yes. well done, sir | 12:09 |
| Tofe | dr_gogeta86: I've copied my root CA cert (as a PEM file) into ssl certs, should I do something more? | 12:09 |
| Scelt | chem|st: :D | 12:09 |
| dr_gogeta86 | rea journalca -fa | 12:09 |
| *** Amber_ <Amber_!~Amber@140.207.22.58> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 12:09 | |
| xfade_ | But if you are impatient, this is the way to scratch the itch ;) | 12:09 |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has joined #jollamobile | 12:10 | |
| Scelt | xfade_: thx for that :D | 12:10 |
| *** Lipevakala <Lipevakala!~sailfish@85-76-6-239-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 12:11 | |
| Tofe | dr_gogeta86: " wpa_supplicant[11131]: TLS: Certificate verification failed, error 19 (self signed certificate in certificate chain) depth 2 for '/DC=com/DC=das/DC=dasne/CN=DAS Root CA' " looks quite explicit to me | 12:15 |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@91-157-184-159.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 12:19 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #jollamobile | 12:20 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 12:20 | |
| *** birdzhang-jolla <birdzhang-jolla!~birdzhang@112.96.109.91> has joined #jollamobile | 12:21 | |
| inte` | hello | 12:21 |
| inte` | my btrfs balance is still running | 12:21 |
| inte` | for two days now | 12:21 |
| inte` | renders my phone somewhat useless | 12:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | reboot in recovery | 12:22 |
| inte` | is there any way to see the progress? | 12:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | and cancel it | 12:22 |
| inte` | i dont want to loose any data | 12:22 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I never loose anything | 12:22 |
| inte` | and if it was done by, say, 60 percent today, i wouldnt mind waiting another day | 12:22 |
| Yaniel | you can stop it safely | 12:23 |
| inte` | is that new? | 12:23 |
| Yaniel | with the appropriate command, lemme check | 12:23 |
| Yaniel | no | 12:23 |
| *** salyavin <salyavin!~salyavin@gokuraku.fcac.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 12:23 | |
| dr_gogeta86 | btw i've updated via a sort of reverse tethering | 12:23 |
| Yaniel | but you need a separate terminal | 12:23 |
| Yaniel | ssh works too if you have that enabled | 12:23 |
| inte` | i guess the instructions on the tjc are full of warnings regarding data loss | 12:23 |
| inte` | it running in screen | 12:23 |
| Yaniel | yeah, don't kill it or ^C it | 12:23 |
| inte` | but i can safely ssh into the phone | 12:23 |
| *** dirkvl <dirkvl!~dirkvl@37.143.36.100> has joined #jollamobile | 12:24 | |
| Yaniel | oh if it is in screen then there should be no problem | 12:24 |
| Yaniel | just run devel-su btrfs balance stop / | 12:24 |
| aard_ | https://together.jolla.com/question/99006/changelog-117-bjorntrasket-early-access/ | 12:24 |
| Yaniel | without touching the balance running in screen | 12:24 |
| Scelt | aard_: thanks! | 12:24 |
| dr_gogeta86 | I've tricked the balancer with a fake one | 12:25 |
| Tofe | aard_: thanks ! | 12:25 |
| dr_gogeta86 | exit 0 | 12:25 |
| Nicd- | aard_: says OpenSSL twice | 12:25 |
| Nicd- | j -> k and then k -> m | 12:25 |
| aard_ | hm, we're at k | 12:25 |
| *** avey <avey!~avey@p5792DF82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 12:25 | |
| inte` | ssh 192.168.2.100 -lnemo | 12:26 |
| inte` | damed | 12:26 |
| inte` | is there anything like btrfs fi balance status / | 12:26 |
| inte` | ? | 12:26 |
| aard_ | Nicd-: ah, that is inside alien | 12:26 |
| Yaniel | inte`: yes | 12:26 |
| *** salyavin <salyavin!~salyavin@gokuraku.fcac.com> has joined #jollamobile | 12:27 | |
| *** nh1402 <nh1402!~nh1402@95.148.89.50> has left #jollamobile ("Leaving") | 12:27 | |
| Yaniel | btrfs balance status / | 12:27 |
| inte` | 1 out of about 23 chunks balanced (14 considered), 96% left | 12:27 |
| Yaniel | ouch | 12:27 |
| inte` | ok I guess I rather stop then :) | 12:27 |
| ggabriel | inte`: i assume you checked journalctl for other types of errors | 12:28 |
| inte` | before stopping? | 12:28 |
| ggabriel | you can stop, it's ok | 12:28 |
| inte` | not yet but I will do now | 12:28 |
| ggabriel | but check if you didn't run into errors before... | 12:28 |
| inte` | btrfs balance stop / | 12:29 |
| inte` | : unknown token 'stop' | 12:29 |
| *** Lipevakala_ <Lipevakala_!~sailfish@85-76-181-160-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 12:30 | |
| Tofe | what does "SIP account plugin extension" do ? | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | inte`: can be cancel | 12:30 |
| ggabriel | but that's according to man btrfs-balance in kernel 4 :P | 12:30 |
| aard_ | Tofe: it's a breadcrumb to show that we didn't forget about working on sip :p | 12:31 |
| inte` | yeah just consulted the manpage | 12:31 |
| inte` | it was cancel | 12:31 |
| Tofe | hehe :) ok good! | 12:31 |
| inte` | i have a couple of errors in my journalctl | 12:31 |
| inte` | or at least warnings | 12:32 |
| inte` | like, freezing userspace process | 12:32 |
| *** Lipevakala <Lipevakala!~sailfish@85-76-6-239-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 12:32 | |
| inte` | mmh, i have the feeling I should have started the cancel command in a screen as well | 12:32 |
| pp | heh, "waiting for part" for my display replay | 12:33 |
| pp | ... wonder if they're as available as batteries :-) | 12:33 |
| pp | s/replay/replacement/ | 12:33 |
| tadzik | so, not much user-facing changes, eh? | 12:33 |
| ggabriel | clearly not | 12:34 |
| ggabriel | all that goes to 2.0 ;) | 12:34 |
| aard_ | tadzik: quite a few bugfixes, but obviously the toolchain upgrade is big | 12:35 |
| aard_ | alien changed a lot, we did't upgrade that for a few releases | 12:35 |
| inte` | so, eventually, having started the cancel command throug wifi/ssh means i shouldnt leave my wifi until it is processed? | 12:35 |
| *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc4-hitc7-2-0-cust744.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 12:36 | |
| Wnt | inte`: maybe you can use http://pasky.or.cz/dev/retty ? | 12:36 |
| ggabriel | inte`: some people had similar issues and there was no problem with HUP'ing the cancel command | 12:36 |
| ggabriel | but that's hearsay | 12:36 |
| attah | aard_: But the tel-link handling is still broken or? | 12:36 |
| inte` | ok thanks | 12:37 |
| inte` | i will consider that | 12:37 |
| Yaniel | ooh, gstreamer1.0 | 12:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | aard_: thanks for the toolchain update btw | 12:37 |
| ggabriel | Wnt: nice :) | 12:37 |
| aard_ | attah: ? | 12:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | C++11 lovers thank you :) | 12:37 |
| inte` | at first ill go for lunch and leave all my communications equipment in the office | 12:37 |
| attah | aard_: https://together.jolla.com/question/71883/percent-encoded-tel-links-broken-becomes-2/ | 12:37 |
| inte` | a seldom experience :) | 12:37 |
| attah | One line.. :( | 12:37 |
| inte` | hopefully its done when im back | 12:37 |
| Wnt | sailfish-maps has a nice looking version bump: Current Version: 1.0.40-10.26.1.jolla, Available Version: 1.1.0-10.27.1.jolla | 12:38 |
| Wnt | and again, the store doesn't suggest any upgrades | 12:39 |
| ggabriel | it took my store a couple of days to suggest that in the last upgrade | 12:39 |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@109.110.67.226> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 12:40 | |
| Wnt | also for some reason upower from the jolla repository didn' get updated to the latest: https://paste.kde.org/pugwgzr2c | 12:41 |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-siieizczxuxxykxf> has joined #jollamobile | 12:41 | |
| Wnt | is it OK to upgrade that? | 12:42 |
| * SQUelcher updates to Björnträsket | 12:43 | |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@mechs1.vub.ac.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 12:45 | |
| *** Kabouik <Kabouik!~quassel@147.99.219.229> has joined #jollamobile | 12:46 | |
| *** Pilke <Pilke!~Pilke@85-76-101-211-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 12:47 | |
| Kabouik | Guys, I'm trying to install the last SF update (opt-in), but when it's downloaded and I select "Install" from the pulley menu, my phone just switches off, and nothing happens, even after minutes | 12:49 |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@mechs1.vub.ac.be> has joined #jollamobile | 12:49 | |
| *** Mirv_ is now known as Mirv | 12:49 | |
| Kabouik | Am I missing something? | 12:49 |
| lainwir3d | probably not | 12:50 |
| Kabouik | Any ideas then? I never had this issue before | 12:51 |
| ggabriel | is the phone connected to power? | 12:51 |
| ggabriel | have you got enough space? | 12:51 |
| Kabouik | The phone was connected to power the first time I tried, then I rebooted and tried without the wire (80% battery) | 12:52 |
| inte` | Kabouik: sounds like the FS could be full | 12:52 |
| Kabouik | I think I have enough battery, I factory reset recently | 12:52 |
| Kabouik | -batter +spacde | 12:52 |
| Kabouik | -spacde +space -.- | 12:52 |
| Kabouik | For some reason, when the phone is off after I "Install" from the pulley button, and try to reboot, the led appears read like if the phone was actually on | 12:53 |
| Kabouik | But I waited more than 30 min before trying that | 12:53 |
| Kabouik | appears red*, sorry, sleep deprivation. -_- | 12:54 |
| ggabriel | maybe the phone is trying to tell you to go to sleep and try again when you're awake? :) | 12:55 |
| attah | Yup, the bug is still there.. <insert profanity here> | 12:55 |
| Kabouik | When the phone finally reboots, it's in flight mode | 12:55 |
| Kabouik | "btrfs fi show /" returns "ERROR: could not open /dev/mmcblk0p28" and "ERROR: could not open /dev/mmcblk1". I guess it's related. Maybe I should try to update without the µSD card | 12:56 |
| *** dirkvl <dirkvl!~dirkvl@37.143.36.100> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 12:57 | |
| *** rostbach_ <rostbach_!itarik@ohm.tamk.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Lost terminal) | 12:57 | |
| *** Nokius|mobile <Nokius|mobile!~Nokius|mo@46.189.65.154> has joined #jollamobile | 12:58 | |
| xfade_ | Kabouik: you need to devel-su | 13:01 |
| Kabouik | Then I get "ERROR: unable get label Innapropriate ioctl for device" (with no µSD inserted, because I know my µSD my be dead anyway) | 13:01 |
| Kabouik | xfade_ | 13:01 |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@109.110.67.226> has joined #jollamobile | 13:02 | |
| xfade_ | that is just noise, doesn't matter | 13:02 |
| Kabouik | Yeah but I got no results apart from this error | 13:03 |
| xfade_ | Kabouik: btrfs filesystem show | 13:03 |
| *** rostbach <rostbach!itarik@ohm.tamk.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 13:03 | |
| Kabouik | "btrfs fi df /" says i use 6.87 GiB oon 10.25 GiB on "Data, Single" | 13:03 |
| *** dirkvl <dirkvl!~dirkvl@37.143.36.100> has joined #jollamobile | 13:03 | |
| Kabouik | Toltal devices 1 FS bytes used 7.02 GiB | 13:04 |
| Kabouik | devid 1 size 14.75GiB used 11.38GiB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 xfade_ | 13:04 |
| Kabouik | 13.75 GiB, not 14.75, sorry for the typo (I'm not ssh-ing at the moment, I'm retyping what I see in fingerterm) | 13:05 |
| *** cosmo_ is now known as cos- | 13:05 | |
| *** birdzhang-jolla <birdzhang-jolla!~birdzhang@112.96.109.91> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 13:08 | |
| *** birdzhang-jolla <birdzhang-jolla!~birdzhang@223.73.194.234> has joined #jollamobile | 13:08 | |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 13:09 | |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has joined #jollamobile | 13:10 | |
| *** Nokius|mobile <Nokius|mobile!~Nokius|mo@46.189.65.154> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 13:14 | |
| *** tango_ <tango_!~tex_vim@151.54.42.177> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 13:18 | |
| *** tango_ <tango_!~tex_vim@151.54.118.39> has joined #jollamobile | 13:19 | |
| *** beidl <beidl!~quassel@91-113-126-145.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #jollamobile | 13:20 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 13:22 | |
| *** beidl_ <beidl_!~quassel@91-113-125-45.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 13:23 | |
| *** birdzhang-jolla <birdzhang-jolla!~birdzhang@223.73.194.234> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 13:24 | |
| *** Tomin <Tomin!~Tomin@line-4947.dyn.kponet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 13:25 | |
| *** taaeem is now known as taaem | 13:26 | |
| taaem | what does this in the changelog mean? [usbmodeselector] Add PC Suite mode | 13:26 |
| Kabouik | http://talk.maemo.org/showpost.php?p=1476712&postcount=9 I've posted my issue here, in case anyone has an idea | 13:30 |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@mechs1.vub.ac.be> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 13:32 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 13:35 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has joined #jollamobile | 13:37 | |
| PaulePanter | Hi. Setting up a Google Mail account it looks like all my contacts were uploaded to Google. | 13:39 |
| PaulePanter | Not cool. How can I forbid that? | 13:40 |
| *** inte` is now known as inte_away | 13:40 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 13:40 | |
| ggabriel | i'd probably set up just the imap account | 13:40 |
| ggabriel | to ensure that it only syncs emails | 13:40 |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@mechs1.vub.ac.be> has joined #jollamobile | 13:40 | |
| *** Behold <Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory> has joined #jollamobile | 13:41 | |
| Nicd- | or you can uncheck the contact and calendar sync in the account's settings page | 13:41 |
| *** patinux <patinux!~patinux@unaffiliated/patinux> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 13:43 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-7-180-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 13:47 | |
| *** SfietKonstantinW <SfietKonstantinW!c2623324@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.98.51.36> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) | 13:48 | |
| *** SfietKonstantinW <SfietKonstantinW!c2623324@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.98.51.36> has joined #jollamobile | 13:48 | |
| *** Swan-Phone <Swan-Phone!~sailfish@221.192.180.69> has joined #jollamobile | 13:48 | |
| tadzik | store down for everyone or just me? | 13:49 |
| tadzik | I seem to have connectivity in general, although it seemed very sketchy at first | 13:49 |
| tadzik | failed to detect simcard, then couldn't get internet before I started pinging dns continously | 13:49 |
| PaulePanter | Nicd-: Thank you. | 13:50 |
| *** SfietKonstantinW <SfietKonstantinW!c2623324@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.98.51.36> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 13:50 | |
| Yaniel | tadzik: no problems here | 13:51 |
| PaulePanter | When accesing the Google account from Sailfish OS on my Jolla phone: Your Google Account paul.menzel@giantmonkey.de was just used to sign in on Android. | 13:51 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 13:52 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has joined #jollamobile | 13:52 | |
| Yaniel | that's normal | 13:53 |
| *** Swan__ <Swan__!~sailfish@221.192.180.3> has joined #jollamobile | 13:56 | |
| *** Swan__ <Swan__!~sailfish@221.192.180.3> has left #jollamobile | 13:56 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 13:57 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@146.0.2.254> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 13:58 | |
| *** Swan-Phone <Swan-Phone!~sailfish@221.192.180.69> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 13:58 | |
| inte` | grr | 13:58 |
| *** trt` <trt`!~trt@ip70-174-27-208.hr.hr.cox.net> has joined #jollamobile | 13:59 | |
| inte` | what will happen when i disconnect ssh after I started ssh balance cancel / but the command has not yet finished? | 13:59 |
| Yaniel | EUndefinedBehaviour happens | 14:00 |
| inte` | mh | 14:01 |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net> has joined #jollamobile | 14:01 | |
| inte` | status say cancel requested | 14:01 |
| inte` | so i guess it took it | 14:01 |
| inte` | and i can hopefully stop ssh | 14:01 |
| inte` | cant wait any longer | 14:04 |
| *** iekku <iekku!iekku@trillian.oikosulku.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 14:12 | |
| *** SfietKonstantinW <SfietKonstantinW!c2623324@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.98.51.36> has joined #jollamobile | 14:21 | |
| *** FReaper-PC <FReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 14:23 | |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has joined #jollamobile | 14:24 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@91-157-184-159.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 14:26 | |
| Kabouik | Alright, I finally managed to do the update, but I have no lipstick anymore. I did disable all patches prior to the update, and re-enabled those that could be applied after the update | 14:26 |
| Kabouik | I'm leaving in one hour max for holidays, I'm kind of really annoyed and panicked now :| | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | why would you upgrade right before a holiday? | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | .. to a early access release | 14:27 |
| Kabouik | Because I had a battery drain issue and was kind of hoping it would solve it | 14:27 |
| Stskeeps | (says the guy that just upgraded on -devel level- before his holiday..) | 14:27 |
| Kabouik | I can't even see the PIN code screen (I have a white screen), I guess I tried to reinstall outdated lipstick-qt5-blahblah.rom and lipstick-jolla-home-blahblah.rpm when I lost Lipstick after the update | 14:29 |
| Kabouik | Can some miracle happen to me before I leave for holidays, please? D: | 14:29 |
| Kabouik | SfietKonstantinW maybe you're used to these Lipstick issues with Patchmanager, any ideas on how to restore it? | 14:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: reinstall lipstick from recovery | 14:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | did you used patchmanager ? | 14:30 |
| Kabouik | Yes I did, but unapplied all that could be unapplied before the update | 14:31 |
| Kabouik | And then reapplied all that could be reapplied | 14:31 |
| Kabouik | Some patches failed, but I'm used to it. I should have been more cautious about this issue I guess | 14:31 |
| Kabouik | This is after I reapplied them that I lost Lipstick. And then I lost even the PIN Code screen when I tried to install (probably outdated versions) of the two aforementioned rpms | 14:32 |
| *** taaem <taaem!~tim@x55b1872d.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 14:33 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has joined #jollamobile | 14:34 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #jollamobile | 14:34 | |
| Kabouik | I'm in Recovery mode, telnet OK. I guess I should select "Shell" SfietKonstantinW? | 14:35 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: go to a folder named /opt/patchmanager/backups | 14:36 |
| Kabouik | cd /opt/patchmanager/backups/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/qml/ | 14:36 |
| Kabouik | cp -rf * /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/qml/ | 14:36 |
| Kabouik | Am I right? | 14:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yes | 14:37 |
| Kabouik | Hum, seems /opt is not mounted | 14:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | better backup what you are gonna kill | 14:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yes, you need to mount the filesystem | 14:37 |
| SfietKonstantinW | there is a together post on how to mount it from recovery | 14:37 |
| Kabouik | mount -t btrfs /dev/mmcblk0p28 /mnt/rootfs | 14:38 |
| Kabouik | ? | 14:38 |
| *** lukedirtwalker <lukedirtwalker!~lukedirtw@dhclient-91-190-9-156.flashcable.ch> has joined #jollamobile | 14:38 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | something like this yeah | 14:39 |
| Kabouik | It says no such file or directory | 14:39 |
| lukedirtwalker | Hm I try to update, but I first have to click this "Start optimising" button, once the optimization is done the button re-appears, tried it twice | 14:39 |
| Kabouik | I guess I should mkdir /mnt/rootfs | 14:40 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: yes, and you can just mount to /mnt | 14:40 |
| SfietKonstantinW | lukedirtwalker: make some space | 14:40 |
| lukedirtwalker | SfietKonstantinW: hm okay | 14:41 |
| Kabouik | I have no /qml/ folder in /opt/patchmanager/backups/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/ apparently SfietKonstantinW | 14:43 |
| Kabouik | In /mnt/rootfs/opt/patchmanager/backups/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 actually | 14:43 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: what do you have inside ? | 14:44 |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@37-219-250-62.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 14:45 | |
| Kabouik | http://hastebin.com/buyaheyuno.hs SfietKonstantinW | 14:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ok | 14:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | copy this in /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 14:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | backup lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 (rename it) | 14:46 |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@mechs1.vub.ac.be> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 14:46 | |
| Kabouik | You mean you want me to "cp /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-backup"? | 14:46 |
| Kabouik | Not sure what you meant SfietKonstantinW | 14:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: yep | 14:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and copy /opt/patchmanager/backups/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 /usr/share/ | 14:50 |
| Kabouik | And then I "cp /mnt/rootfs/opt/patchmanager/backups/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/* /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5", right? | 14:50 |
| Kabouik | Ok done. Just have to reboot in normal mode now SfietKonstantinW? | 14:51 |
| *** Osanwe is now known as Osanwe|away | 14:51 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: yep | 14:51 |
| SfietKonstantinW | try to reboot | 14:52 |
| Kabouik | Jolla refuses to shut down, will have to remove the battery :o | 14:52 |
| *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc4-hitc7-2-0-cust744.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #jollamobile | 14:52 | |
| lukedirtwalker | I guess I should really implement SD-card support for CuteSpot ^^ | 14:53 |
| *** phdeswer <phdeswer!~phdeswer@2001:998:2a:dead:6267:20ff:fe47:e16c> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 14:54 | |
| Kabouik | I get nothing but a black screen (but it is on) SfietKonstantinW :/ | 14:55 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: wait a se | 14:55 |
| SfietKonstantinW | c | 14:55 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you still get nothing you will need to get the journal | 14:55 |
| Kabouik | Let me reboot in recovery again then | 14:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | something else to do is to ask someone to download the package for you and reinstall it from recovery | 14:56 |
| Kabouik | I'm back in recovery | 14:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: mount your "/" | 14:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and chroot in it | 14:58 |
| Kabouik | It's mounted, don't know what you mean exactly by chroot it | 14:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and journalctl -b 1 | grep lipstick | 14:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chroot <path> | 14:58 |
| Kabouik | bash-3.2# journalctl -b 1 | grep lipstick | 14:58 |
| Kabouik | No journal files were found. | 14:58 |
| Kabouik | Failed to look up boot +1: Cannot assign requested address | 14:58 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: journalctl -b (without 1)? | 14:59 |
| Kabouik | Failed to get boot id: No such file or directory | 14:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | journalctl | 14:59 |
| Kabouik | No journal files were found | 14:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | DAMN, your journal is set to volatile | 14:59 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: are you chroot'ed? | 14:59 |
| SfietKonstantinW | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-journalctl-to-view-and-manipulate-systemd-logs | 15:00 |
| Kabouik | I did "chroot /mnt/rootfs" yes chem|st | 15:00 |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: it gets overwritten on boot so last boot should be there even on volatile, right? | 15:00 |
| chem|st | hmm | 15:00 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: I forgot about the volatility | 15:00 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if it is really fully volatile = shutdown, no logs | 15:00 |
| Kabouik | I guess I'll have to charge my N900 before going on holidays in a few minutes D: | 15:00 |
| chem|st | ok so it does not survive a shutdown | 15:00 |
| Kabouik | Is there any reason it would be voltatile by default SfietKonstantinW? I never did anything to set it that way | 15:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: because your jolla is not a server :P | 15:02 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: yes it would write to eMMC if set persistent | 15:02 |
| chem|st | it is default | 15:02 |
| Kabouik | And can't the blackscreen be related to me trying to stupidly install lipstick-jolla-home-qt5-0.24.41.4-10.75.1.jolla.armv7hl.rpm and lipstick-qt5-0.26.5.4-1.52.1.armv7hl.rpm when Patchmanager lost my Lipstick? These rpm are probably outdated, but I had them on my HDD and thought they would work | 15:02 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: hope you learned the lesson of "do not install early-access just before you go on holidays" | 15:03 |
| Kabouik | I had this battery drain issue which was annying me anyway chem|st, this update sounded like a good hope | 15:03 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: and yes, you cannot just apply old lipstick to an upgraded device | 15:03 |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 15:04 | |
| Kabouik | But then, can't these old lipstick rpms I installed be those backuped in /patchmanager/backups, and hence can it explain the blackscreen? Perhaps just reinstalling up to date rpms would work, no? | 15:04 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: there is no battery drain issue, either tracker is messing or you have some app installed that hogs your device, android-support for example can drain you dead in hours | 15:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: never ever install lipstick-qt5 now | 15:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I hoped that patchmanager did backed up your new lipstick | 15:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah but maybe you have an old lipstick binary with new lipstick QML | 15:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | bad bad bad :( | 15:05 |
| Kabouik | :/ | 15:05 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: pull backups and reset | 15:06 |
| Kabouik | What do you mean chem|st? | 15:06 |
| Kabouik | I have no backups in .vault unfortunately | 15:06 |
| chem|st | backup what you need and factory-reset | 15:06 |
| SfietKonstantinW | nope | 15:06 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ask someone to download new lipstick | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and send it to email to you | 15:07 |
| chem|st | or that | 15:07 |
| * Kabouik asks someone to download new lipstick and sent it by email to me. | 15:07 | |
| Kabouik | :O | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and lipstick-qt5 | 15:07 |
| Kabouik | With the typos. | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | and lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 | 15:07 |
| SfietKonstantinW | (just to be clear) | 15:07 |
| * SfietKonstantinW cannot: at work | 15:07 | |
| Kabouik | Is there a way I can download them myself? | 15:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: well if you have a working Jolla it is easy | 15:10 |
| Kabouik | I have a paperweight. | 15:11 |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 15:11 | |
| *** inte` is now known as inte_away | 15:11 | |
| Kabouik | It's fancy, it has a coloured led and everything | 15:11 |
| Kabouik | Ok I need to go do something at work 15 min while maybe somebody sees my SOS and can download up to date lipstick-qt5 and lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 (will I have a way to transfer them to the Jolla while in recovery mode?) | 15:12 |
| SfietKonstantinW | anyone ^ | 15:14 |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 15:14 | |
| *** pinheiro <pinheiro!~pinheiro@bl18-204-238.dsl.telepac.pt> has joined #jollamobile | 15:15 | |
| kimmoli | scp works over usb, if you have ssh server on the pc | 15:17 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has joined #jollamobile | 15:17 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: the problem is that he is on the recovery | 15:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | can you contact Jolla repos on recovery from chroot | 15:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you get net via usb ? | 15:19 |
| kimmoli | no | 15:19 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :( | 15:19 |
| kimmoli | or dunno if you get that.. | 15:19 |
| kimmoli | i had 2nd phone, copied everything needed for developermode... | 15:19 |
| kimmoli | chrooted over recovery | 15:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | yeah | 15:20 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you have a second phone it is easy :) | 15:20 |
| kimmoli | managed to get wifi working, so could ssh in | 15:20 |
| kimmoli | it was not walk in a park | 15:21 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 15:22 | |
| Yaniel | whoa, ram usage has gone down again a bit | 15:23 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: that might be an idea, switch on wlan and let it boot to blank screen, then ssh in and pkcon install the packages you need | 15:28 |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has joined #jollamobile | 15:28 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has joined #jollamobile | 15:28 | |
| *** patinux <patinux!~patinux@unaffiliated/patinux> has joined #jollamobile | 15:29 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 15:29 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has joined #jollamobile | 15:29 | |
| xfade_ | Yaniel: thumb support for arm | 15:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | chem|st: you need to configure sshd to start correctly then | 15:31 |
| SfietKonstantinW | isn't it ? | 15:31 |
| *** jpetrell <jpetrell!~jpetrell@2001:998:2a:dead:7c5f:c1e5:1b13:f227> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 15:32 | |
| *** zhxt_ <zhxt_!~zhxt@60.10.71.29> has joined #jollamobile | 15:32 | |
| chem|st | SfietKonstantinW: I think all people having that lipstick borked issue buit had dev-mode and wlan on could recover just fine | 15:33 |
| *** dunp <dunp!~dunp@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3e-106.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 15:37 | |
| *** dunp <dunp!~dunp@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3e-106.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 15:37 | |
| *** xfade_ <xfade_!~xfade@81.82.255.216> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 15:38 | |
| Kabouik | chem|st why not, but I still don't have the packages, and don't know how to switch wlan on and then boot from recovery :( | 15:44 |
| Kabouik | I need to leave in like 20 min :( | 15:45 |
| Kabouik | Anyone here has done the update and could give me the two precious rpms? | 15:48 |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@37-219-250-62.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 15:50 | |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-192-168.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 15:50 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@natr.physik.hu-berlin.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 15:51 | |
| chem|st | no can do, did you not leave wlan on? | 15:51 |
| Kabouik | I think it was off because I had this battery life issue :/ | 15:54 |
| Kabouik | So am I good for a factory reset now? I can't even backup stuff from recovery mode, right? | 15:54 |
| ggabriel | you can easily back stuff up to an sd card | 15:54 |
| Kabouik | My SD is dead. I hate everything. | 15:55 |
| ggabriel | come on man | 15:55 |
| ggabriel | get a new one | 15:55 |
| ggabriel | they're cheap-ish | 15:55 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: without sd you can wait all day to get the rpm into recovery | 15:55 |
| Kabouik | Yeah, I know, but I mean this can't be fixed before my holidays ggabriel | 15:56 |
| Kabouik | Of course I will, later | 15:56 |
| chem|st | Kabouik: find out how to toggle wlan from terminal and you are good to go in 5 minutes! | 15:56 |
| Kabouik | Maybe I have a SD in another device, would have to check | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | i restored my phone while on holidays :P | 15:56 |
| Kabouik | I think I can find it in the diptoh thread, there was a bash script for wlan on/off, but it's still useless to me since I don't have the rpms | 15:57 |
| Kabouik | I will be in a roadtrip sleeping in my car ggabriel :D | 15:57 |
| wysiwtf | i see something to keep you busy during holidays :p | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | i think chem|st's point is thta you can get the rpm's with wlan on | 15:57 |
| Kabouik | And I needed the gps tonight D: | 15:57 |
| Kabouik | Oh. Let me go home to charge my N900 just in case during the last 30 min I have ggabriel, and maybe I'll try something with wlan if you have 5 min | 15:58 |
| ggabriel | i won't ;) | 15:58 |
| ggabriel | you know what not to do next time now :) | 15:58 |
| Kabouik | I meant chem|st :] | 15:58 |
| Kabouik | Anyway, will log in from home for some last resort attempts | 15:59 |
| Kabouik | Thanks for your help guys, and sorry to bother | 16:00 |
| *** Kabouik <Kabouik!~quassel@147.99.219.229> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 16:00 | |
| *** avey <avey!~avey@p5792DF82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has left #jollamobile | 16:01 | |
| *** citylight2 <citylight2!~me@bzq-218-29-26.cablep.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 16:01 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@91-157-184-159.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 16:02 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 16:05 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 16:11 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@91.208.181.163> has quit IRC (Quit: My laptop has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 16:14 | |
| *** Lipevakala_ <Lipevakala_!~sailfish@85-76-181-160-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 16:17 | |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-siieizczxuxxykxf> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** Pat_o <Pat_o!~pat@rob92-9-88-161-114-92.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** Termana <Termana!uid99249@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vrvwliryqgemfouq> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** ayrie <ayrie!~pi@unaffiliated/alisonc> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** wysiwtf <wysiwtf!arvenius@whatyouseeis.wtf> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** gordon` <gordon`!~gordon@saint-nectaire.opchee.se> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** blom_ <blom_!sid39361@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spmedqranodaaecx> has quit IRC (*.net *.split) | 16:20 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@profge2.iut-cachan.u-psud.fr> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 16:20 | |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-yxmjkpbjvogzzqao> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** wysiwtf <wysiwtf!arvenius@whatyouseeis.wtf> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** Pat_o <Pat_o!~pat@rob92-9-88-161-114-92.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@37.165.4.152> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** ayrie <ayrie!~pi@unaffiliated/alisonc> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** Kabouik <Kabouik!~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** gordon` <gordon`!~gordon@212.129.4.87> has joined #jollamobile | 16:20 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 16:21 | |
| Kabouik | Alright, I'm on my Jolla, recovery mode, working SD inside chem|st | 16:21 |
| *** blom_ <blom_!sid39361@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cntumnthifhebazo> has joined #jollamobile | 16:22 | |
| *** Termana <Termana!uid99249@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-uadxbnapjwjvowwz> has joined #jollamobile | 16:23 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-30-149-11.as13285.net> has joined #jollamobile | 16:24 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~honoo-pc@110.159.109.244> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 16:25 | |
| r0kk3rz | big day in sailfish land | 16:28 |
| r0kk3rz | new manufacturer announced, new update | 16:28 |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has joined #jollamobile | 16:28 | |
| Stskeeps | tomorrow will be bigger | 16:28 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:28 |
| kimmoli | sailfish pond | 16:28 |
| pp | tablets are shipping! | 16:29 |
| wysiwtf | w00t | 16:29 |
| pp | soon! | 16:29 |
| ortylp | details? when? what? why? | 16:29 |
| wysiwtf | especially the 'why' | 16:30 |
| Yaniel | :D | 16:30 |
| ortylp | references? | 16:31 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: Woohoo! | 16:31 |
| ortylp | should I be scared? | 16:32 |
| r0kk3rz | i look forward to reading all about it then | 16:32 |
| *** inte` is now known as inte_away | 16:35 | |
| *** dunp <dunp!~dunp@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3e-106.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 16:37 | |
| Kabouik | Oh no. Even my N900 is dead apparently. | 16:37 |
| Kabouik | I can't believe it :[ | 16:37 |
| *** lainwir3d <lainwir3d!~lainwir3d@fedora/SePhIr0tH> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 16:37 | |
| r0kk3rz | the n900 is dead! long live the n900! | 16:37 |
| ortylp | yeah.. all 3 Batteries for my N900 are dead, and battery in N9 is almost dead... | 16:38 |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte` | 16:39 | |
| *** dunp <dunp!~dunp@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa3e-106.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 16:40 | |
| *** motalb <motalb!~motalb@85-76-181-241-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: motalb) | 16:41 | |
| r0kk3rz | hmmm do i risk upgrading or not | 16:42 |
| r0kk3rz | seems to be a few reports of hanging upgrades | 16:42 |
| Kabouik | chem|st SfietKonstantinW I have no choice but factory reset | 16:49 |
| Kabouik | I'm so sad I applied these patchmanager updates | 16:49 |
| Kabouik | I have no backup phone and need to drive to pick somebody 3h from here, and don't know the way :[ | 16:50 |
| Kabouik | Is there a way I can backup the contacts first? | 16:50 |
| *** motalb <motalb!~motalb@85-76-181-241-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 16:50 | |
| Kabouik | From recover | 16:50 |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 16:52 | |
| ortylp | is anybody able to tell me how to create timestamped log from dalvik, I need to record many hours to pinpoint a bug I am hunting | 16:55 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 16:55 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: did you already try out the update ? | 16:56 |
| Tofe | ...without undoing the btrfs little hack first ? | 16:57 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #jollamobile | 16:57 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~quassel@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 16:58 | |
| r0kk3rz | Kabouik: surely you can un-patch the patches from recovery? | 17:00 |
| *** Pilke <Pilke!~Pilke@85-76-101-211-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 17:01 | |
| r0kk3rz | wooo i'm in! | 17:01 |
| Tofe | that's what he said | 17:02 |
| Kabouik | I can't r0kk3rz | 17:02 |
| Kabouik | And I was supposed to pick up my half at the airport. | 17:02 |
| Kabouik | I think this updated ruined all my plans to make a family one day | 17:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Kabouik: this happens | 17:03 |
| r0kk3rz | why not? | 17:03 |
| r0kk3rz | but it sounds like you really shouldnt be using the pre-release upgrades | 17:03 |
| r0kk3rz | clearly your chances at procreation depend on it | 17:03 |
| Kabouik | Because I can't go to the airport with no GPS, and can't call them to find a rendez-vous SfietKonstantinW D: | 17:03 |
| *** Pilke <Pilke!~Pilke@85-76-101-211-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 17:03 | |
| Stskeeps | if you're OK with data loss, factory reset.. | 17:03 |
| Stskeeps | that'll give you gps and all that stuff back.. | 17:04 |
| Kabouik | I am going to factory reset in emergency and leave SfietKonstantinW, just in case I can get Waze out of it | 17:04 |
| Tofe | Kabouik: maybe you can take a map with you, and send an sms via internet? | 17:04 |
| Tofe | (dinosaur geek talking here...) | 17:04 |
| r0kk3rz | a map?! thats crazy talk Tofe | 17:04 |
| Kabouik | I will take a map, but will be late, and sms don't work with her operator. Don't ask, I don't know, I asked my operator myself | 17:05 |
| Kabouik | I think I might better kill myself with a wooden spoon. | 17:05 |
| Tofe | if you know her number by heart (that'd be beautiful!), you could use a public phone. If that still exists in your country, of course. | 17:06 |
| Kabouik | I just factory reset, I think it should be OK now | 17:06 |
| Tofe | ... or that, yeah. | 17:06 |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@91-157-184-159.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 17:06 | |
| Kabouik | I will find her and she will dump me and go back to the airport :') | 17:06 |
| * Tofe will maybe wait a little bit before upgrading... | 17:10 | |
| lukedirtwalker | SfietKonstantinW: Upgrade went successful, freeing space did the trick | 17:10 |
| *** zhxt_ <zhxt_!~zhxt@60.10.71.29> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 17:10 | |
| kimmoli | Kabouik: that is cost of early adopter... | 17:10 |
| Tofe | Oh well, who am I trying to fool. I can't wait a whole week ! | 17:11 |
| Kabouik | For sure | 17:11 |
| r0kk3rz | Tofe: it works for me, no dramas | 17:11 |
| Kabouik | I just need to reinstall this Waze apk quickly | 17:11 |
| Kabouik | Where is it :[ | 17:11 |
| r0kk3rz | but im not using patch manager | 17:11 |
| Tofe | r0kk3rz: you have a btrfs sdcard mounted? | 17:11 |
| r0kk3rz | no | 17:12 |
| Tofe | ok, maybe I'll disable that first :) | 17:12 |
| r0kk3rz | when it doubt, pull it out? | 17:12 |
| Tofe | yup :) | 17:12 |
| Kabouik | Is Waze is Jolla's official android store please? Don't remember | 17:12 |
| Stskeeps | Kabouik: no, probably in aptoide | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | or yandex | 17:13 |
| Kabouik | Yes, just wanted to know if I need Play, which is long to install | 17:13 |
| Kabouik | Don't even remember how to get Yandex$ | 17:13 |
| Stskeeps | aptoide should have waze | 17:14 |
| Stskeeps | (i use it too..) | 17:14 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has joined #jollamobile | 17:17 | |
| r0kk3rz | wouldnt waze require googleplayspyware | 17:18 |
| Tofe | oh... no space left on device... aaarg... | 17:19 |
| *** phinaliumz <phinaliumz!~phinalium@olohuone.kortex.jyu.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: What does this button do?) | 17:21 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~quassel@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has joined #jollamobile | 17:22 | |
| Kabouik | Does anyone have the Waze apk just now? | 17:26 |
| Kabouik | The download of the files for the Play store is taking ages | 17:26 |
| Tofe | I just downloaded the update, and my phone is half dead... Let's hope there's some good advice when no space left on device appears everywhere... | 17:29 |
| Tofe | btrfs says I still have space left... which "space" is involved here then? | 17:31 |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.38> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 17:32 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-7-180-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: jolla up) | 17:33 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@37-219-250-62.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 17:34 | |
| Tofe | Did someone already have a "no space left on device" issue with no apparent problem regarding btrfs volumes? | 17:36 |
| Tofe | My metadata space is 30% full, I still have 3 chunks available on / (1.5Gb), but I can't even delete a file | 17:37 |
| *** Nokius_ is now known as Nokius | 17:38 | |
| Tofe | I could delete some previous snapshots, but that involves mount a volume, and I fear it will make things worse | 17:39 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 17:40 | |
| Tofe | Still, it's quite the only thing to do, so... | 17:41 |
| Tofe | ok, wonderful, I've got plenty of space everywhere, but the jolla says it can't find any. No clue. If I reboot, I fear the worst. | 17:59 |
| chem|st | Tofe: yes without disabling data-mount - something got messy so disabling before update is a good idea | 18:00 |
| chem|st | Tofe: but it works fine no other issues | 18:00 |
| Tofe | chem|st: well, it's when I tried to save alien.sh that vi told me it went wrong because of no space on device -- that's how I discovered the issue | 18:01 |
| Tofe | but I think it's the download of the update that made it happen | 18:01 |
| chem|st | Tofe: btrfs balance start -dusage=55 / | 18:01 |
| Tofe | chem|st: it can't even do a dusage=5... | 18:02 |
| chem|st | Tofe: no need to save alien.sh btw it is only one entry to be made | 18:02 |
| Tofe | and my btrfs space (both metadata and chunks) are not full | 18:02 |
| chem|st | and that only for new setups | 18:02 |
| chem|st | Tofe: what does btrfs fi show say? | 18:02 |
| Tofe | well, too late, my alien.sh is size zero now -_- | 18:03 |
| chem|st | Tofe: copying a file does not touch it... so what did you do | 18:03 |
| *** kwork <kwork!~user@no.life.ee> has joined #jollamobile | 18:03 | |
| *** kwork <kwork!~user@no.life.ee> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 18:03 | |
| *** kwork <kwork!~user@unaffiliated/kwork> has joined #jollamobile | 18:03 | |
| Tofe | btrfs fi, something like this: Konsole output devid 1 size 13.75GiB used 11.12GiB path /dev/mmcblk0p28 | 18:03 |
| Tofe | 18:03 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: I did force write in vi | 18:04 |
| chem|st | Tofe: to close it? | 18:04 |
| Tofe | chem|st: no, because it's readonly and I moved back data/ to the bind section | 18:04 |
| chem|st | Tofe: why would you do that? | 18:04 |
| Tofe | to... go back to the state before the llittle hack for mounting sdcard? | 18:05 |
| *** narchie <narchie!~narchie@i.love.abusing.systems> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 18:05 | |
| chem|st | Tofe: and why would you do that? | 18:05 |
| Tofe | to be clean before the big update (there seemed to be a lot of android related stuff) | 18:05 |
| chem|st | all instructions are in the tjc question... nothing else ever has to be done! | 18:06 |
| Tofe | chem|st: but for an update, one does never know what could happen if the state of the system isn't as expected by Jolla | 18:06 |
| chem|st | Tofe: for the future, you can be sure I update the instructions according to upgrades | 18:06 |
| chem|st | Tofe: that is why I test it before hand! | 18:07 |
| Tofe | ... and that is why, not knowing for sure if you had done it yet, I was going to disable this little thing before the update :p | 18:07 |
| Tofe | but that's not the cause of issues anyway | 18:08 |
| Tofe | my* | 18:08 |
| chem|st | Tofe: the question was updated this afternoon and your questions should be answered already as they had been asked right after upgrade was available | 18:08 |
| Tofe | I've made a safe copy of alien.sh on my pc, and saved my whole home via scp | 18:08 |
| chem|st | Tofe: that is always a good idea | 18:08 |
| *** narchie <narchie!~narchie@i.love.abusing.systems> has joined #jollamobile | 18:08 | |
| chem|st | ok back to your actual issue | 18:09 |
| Tofe | yup, any idea ? | 18:09 |
| Tofe | I can't see what I could free up | 18:09 |
| chem|st | as you backuped everyhting, how about deleting folders in home | 18:09 |
| *** Teemu <Teemu!uid15744@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-moryecufznxrvirj> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) | 18:09 | |
| Tofe | I can't, no space on device -- seems like even my metadata are full | 18:09 |
| chem|st | what does mount say, is it rw or ro?? | 18:10 |
| Tofe | (which is not what btrfs says) | 18:10 |
| Tofe | rw for / | 18:10 |
| chem|st | upgrade is downloaded? | 18:10 |
| Tofe | yeqs | 18:10 |
| chem|st | data-mount disabled? | 18:10 |
| Tofe | not yet | 18:10 |
| chem|st | well does not matter, dsmetool -b | 18:11 |
| Tofe | my alien.sh is wrecked currently, so I don't want to touch that if I can avoid it | 18:11 |
| chem|st | reboot that and beg it gets back to a writable state | 18:11 |
| chem|st | no idea what caused the btrfs lockup but I had that too at least once, nothing was writable anymore | 18:12 |
| * Tofe begs his phone | 18:12 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #jollamobile | 18:12 | |
| Tofe | it boots, I can ssh | 18:12 |
| chem|st | wait for it to settle then become root and try to touch a file like touch /test.t | 18:13 |
| chem|st | or look what btrfs says about usage now | 18:14 |
| Tofe | alien.sh restored, goooood | 18:14 |
| chem|st | or that | 18:14 |
| Tofe | That was quite frightening! | 18:14 |
| chem|st | check balance state, disable data-mount, upgrade | 18:14 |
| Tofe | yup, exactly my intent | 18:15 |
| chem|st | Tofe: you do not know what frightning is yet! | 18:15 |
| Tofe | Ah, you know how to reassure people before a beta upgrade :) | 18:15 |
| chem|st | Tofe: jokes on me :) | 18:16 |
| Tofe | ok, I've got 3 chunks available (1.5Gb), metadata is fine, what could go wrong? | 18:17 |
| chem|st | Tofe: always have wlan on when upgrading, best bet is also to have it connected to charger | 18:17 |
| chem|st | Tofe: I usually have 5gb free before hand, no idea what happens close to the Jolla said limits | 18:17 |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@37.165.4.152> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 18:17 | |
| chem|st | and when you have 11gb filled, you probably need a bigger uSD! | 18:18 |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@37.165.4.152> has joined #jollamobile | 18:18 | |
| Tofe | I've started a dusage=45 balancing, just in case (only 6.2Gb is really used) | 18:20 |
| Tofe | those big chunks are really not adapted for this device... | 18:21 |
| Tofe | I wonder, what is executed behind the scene when a backup is copied to sd ? a simple git backup ? | 18:24 |
| *** keithzg_ is now known as keithzg | 18:30 | |
| *** tworaz <tworaz!~tworaz@212.180.237.71> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 18:30 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@212.30.20.170> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 18:30 | |
| inte` | hello | 18:35 |
| inte` | im getting serious problems | 18:35 |
| inte` | i canceled btrfs balance about 4 hours ago but status didn't change yet | 18:36 |
| inte` | what am i supposed to do? | 18:36 |
| inte` | wait? | 18:36 |
| inte` | reset? | 18:36 |
| *** lukedirtwalker <lukedirtwalker!~lukedirtw@dhclient-91-190-9-156.flashcable.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 18:37 | |
| Tofe | If you can wait, I'd say wait | 18:37 |
| Tofe | it probably wants to finish the current chunk | 18:37 |
| Tofe | (and is having a hard time doing it) | 18:37 |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has joined #jollamobile | 18:38 | |
| Tofe | However I'm no btrfs expert, and I'm easily frightened ;) | 18:39 |
| inte` | Tofe: I will try | 18:40 |
| inte` | the bad thing is that i will not be near to any power source for at least 10 hours tomorrow | 18:41 |
| inte` | if not 15 | 18:41 |
| inte` | i hope the battery will last that long | 18:41 |
| inte` | btrfs consumes quite some battery | 18:42 |
| Tofe | yeah | 18:42 |
| Tofe | now is a good time to make sure you have a valid backup | 18:42 |
| inte` | well | 18:43 |
| inte` | aehem | 18:43 |
| inte` | what was a backup again? :) | 18:43 |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-18-251-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 18:43 | |
| inte` | i have my contacts on an openXchange and indeed made a backup sometime ago | 18:44 |
| Tofe | if you're on linux, you can scp your whole /home/nemo, for instance | 18:44 |
| inte` | i guess I won't lost too much in either case | 18:44 |
| inte` | loose | 18:44 |
| Tofe | ok, it's up to you :) | 18:44 |
| inte` | i will consider this :) | 18:45 |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-192-168.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 18:46 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 18:52 | |
| *** tworaz <tworaz!~tworaz@212.180.237.71> has joined #jollamobile | 18:53 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: did you really update the sdcard mount instructions ? the name of the .sh file to change seems to have changed | 19:00 |
| Tofe | Or maybe I've misunderstood | 19:00 |
| chem|st | Tofe: nothing changed iirc | 19:01 |
| chem|st | the file to alter is alien.sh | 19:01 |
| Tofe | no, it's now alien_setup_chroot.sh | 19:01 |
| Tofe | the scripts have been reworked | 19:01 |
| chem|st | the parts to change did not change | 19:02 |
| Tofe | right | 19:02 |
| chem|st | the media got added in 1.1.4 already | 19:02 |
| Tofe | but data still has to be moved to rbind | 19:02 |
| chem|st | maybe the lines are off now did not check | 19:02 |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@ip-4-23.hlucinnet.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 19:02 | |
| Tofe | the main change here is simply the script file name | 19:03 |
| chem|st | script file name? | 19:03 |
| Tofe | alien.sh --> alien_setup_chroot.sh | 19:03 |
| Tofe | alien.sh has now a broader role | 19:04 |
| Tofe | and calls the latter | 19:04 |
| chem|st | ah I think it is not needed anymore | 19:07 |
| chem|st | data is mounted before anything elsewhere | 19:07 |
| Tofe | oh, that'd be great indeed | 19:07 |
| chem|st | Tofe: don't alter anything there, just activate (enable) the data-media.mount and reboot | 19:08 |
| chem|st | it should show as mmcblk1 mounted to /opt/alien/data/media and android_storage in home/nemo should reflect that | 19:09 |
| *** itbaron <itbaron!~kvirc@a91-155-238-87.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) | 19:09 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@x55b38d09.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:10 | |
| Tofe | Rebooting, after having de-altered the script ;) | 19:10 |
| Tofe | If it works, it will mean we are able to add the functionality completely besides the system | 19:12 |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@dhcp-122-58.vub.ac.be> has joined #jollamobile | 19:14 | |
| *** kraemera <kraemera!~sailfish@dslb-146-060-061-206.146.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:14 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: yes, works like a charm | 19:15 |
| Tofe | I see my sdcard maps in Here | 19:15 |
| Tofe | and the sdcard content appears in android_storage | 19:15 |
| chem|st | :) | 19:16 |
| chem|st | Tofe: like it was before that chroot start | 19:16 |
| *** dhbiker <dhbiker!~dhbiker@APN-123-64-89-gprs.simobil.net> has joined #jollamobile | 19:17 | |
| *** ShalokShalom <ShalokShalom!~quassel@178.115.129.111.wireless.dyn.drei.com> has joined #jollamobile | 19:17 | |
| chem|st | the data is now chrooted completely off-shore, probably semi integrated with sailfish controlling the access | 19:17 |
| Tofe | yes | 19:18 |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@80.73.213.34> has joined #jollamobile | 19:19 | |
| Tofe | First thing I did: disabling contacts access :) | 19:19 |
| chem|st | Tofe: updated guide | 19:20 |
| Tofe | great | 19:21 |
| chem|st | will make it go to question history next edit | 19:21 |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-192-168.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:21 | |
| chem|st | thanks for the hint, I just thought nothing had to be altered as everything was working after the upgrade :) | 19:22 |
| chem|st | but well you should recognize that the files have changed when on initial setup and wonder about the shown 1.1.4 anyway | 19:22 |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-078-043-083-040.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:22 | |
| chem|st | but still all alterations can stay, Jolla overwrites files in its entirety so far... even systemd seems to get overwritten en-bloque instead of scripted changes | 19:23 |
| Tofe | yes... and strangely enough, the data-mount I disabled was re-enabled after upgrade. Or maybe my disabling didn't work, I don't know. | 19:24 |
| Tofe | Anyway, perfect upgrade, once more. | 19:25 |
| Tofe | I wonder why the backup copy to sdcard doesn't work well: you have investigated that already? | 19:25 |
| chem|st | it should show removal of files when disabling | 19:25 |
| chem|st | Tofe: the vault uses first block device found backwards, or something like that, so it will write to /opt/alien/media/sdcard/ atm iirc | 19:26 |
| Tofe | ah, ok, too bad | 19:27 |
| chem|st | you can check that yourself by journalct; -f and go in backup to move to sdcard, once you laod that page (dont do anything) you will see the path being loaded in journal | 19:27 |
| *** rubdos <rubdos!~rubdos@dhcp-122-58.vub.ac.be> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 19:28 | |
| Tofe | correct | 19:30 |
| *** keesj_ <keesj_!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has joined #jollamobile | 19:30 | |
| *** keesj <keesj!~keesj@213.208.250.186> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 19:31 | |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-192-168.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 19:31 | |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 19:33 | |
| chem|st | if you stop teh mount it is working fine (stop alien first) | 19:39 |
| chem|st | for me I need to do that to have properly working MTP, others reported that it just works for them | 19:39 |
| chem|st | so tanks waiting | 19:40 |
| chem|st | bb | 19:40 |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@80.73.213.34> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 19:41 | |
| *** RoKenn <RoKenn!~RoKenn@2001:a61:21dd:6701:74a4:66bc:3043:d5bd> has joined #jollamobile | 19:43 | |
| phlixi | good evening | 19:49 |
| phlixi | i just changed my TOH from "Keira black" to "Snow White" and nothing happened, | 19:50 |
| phlixi | if I devel-su and systemctl status tohd | 19:51 |
| phlixi | I see (green) Active: active (running) since Wed 2015-07-15 21:41:58 CEST; 6min ago | 19:51 |
| phlixi | (just rebooted the phoen) | 19:51 |
| phlixi | however, everytime I change the TOH, I get one of those entries: Jul 15 21:42:02 Jolla tohd[742]: timeout; terminating discovery | 19:51 |
| phlixi | Jul 15 21:46:43 Jolla tohd[742]: timeout; terminating discovery | 19:51 |
| phlixi | any ideas? | 19:52 |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@static-5-103-130-65.seas-nve.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | 19:52 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@80.73.213.34> has joined #jollamobile | 19:57 | |
| phlixi | ok, got it | 20:00 |
| phlixi | well, thats really crap | 20:00 |
| phlixi | i have to bend the TOH which scares me to hell i break either the phone or worse the TOHKBD | 20:01 |
| *** dirkvl <dirkvl!~dirkvl@37.143.36.100> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 248 seconds) | 20:02 | |
| *** kraemera <kraemera!~sailfish@dslb-146-060-061-206.146.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 20:03 | |
| TemeV | phlixi: most likely you'd only break the 3D printed cover. Take it as a chance to get a different colored one from shapeways :) | 20:06 |
| phlixi | well, i probably just dont remove it | 20:07 |
| phlixi | had the black one only removed maybe five times the last year in order to pull battery ;-) | 20:07 |
| phlixi | actually when i think about it, probably much more often | 20:07 |
| phlixi | :-) | 20:07 |
| phlixi | but reboots are gone since i found the "official workaround" (rocking the springs) | 20:08 |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@nat3.finemedia.pl> has joined #jollamobile | 20:15 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@nat3.finemedia.pl> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 20:18 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@80.73.213.34> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 20:19 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@80.73.213.34> has joined #jollamobile | 20:19 | |
| *** phlixi_mobile <phlixi_mobile!~sailfish@2001:a62:177:8801:5256:a8ff:fe01:2266> has joined #jollamobile | 20:19 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 20:20 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has joined #jollamobile | 20:22 | |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-192-168.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 20:25 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~quassel@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 20:27 | |
| *** duendecat <duendecat!~duendecat@80.73.213.34> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 20:29 | |
| *** phlixi_mobile <phlixi_mobile!~sailfish@2001:a62:177:8801:5256:a8ff:fe01:2266> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 20:33 | |
| *** Kabouik <Kabouik!~quassel@65.76.93.92.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 20:34 | |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@37.165.4.152> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 20:35 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffaf> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) | 20:36 | |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-192-168.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 20:37 | |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@37.165.4.152> has joined #jollamobile | 20:38 | |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-078-043-083-040.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 20:46 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@cam44-h01-31-34-34-125.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 20:46 | |
| *** salyavin <salyavin!~salyavin@gokuraku.fcac.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 20:49 | |
| *** HarhaanJohtaja <HarhaanJohtaja!~Tarja@host-109-204-178-212.tp-fne.tampereenpuhelin.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 20:51 | |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Connection reset by beer) | 20:56 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@37-219-250-62.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 20:57 | |
| *** Nokius_ <Nokius_!~Nokius@p5DDB4367.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 20:57 | |
| *** Nokius <Nokius!~Nokius@p5DDB7C34.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 21:00 | |
| *** leinir <leinir!~leinir@amarok/usability/leinir> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 21:03 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@x55b38d09.dyn.telefonica.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 21:03 | |
| *** leinir_ <leinir_!~leinir@2a00:14f0:e000:80bf:6257:18ff:fe96:3dd6> has joined #jollamobile | 21:03 | |
| *** leinir_ <leinir_!~leinir@2a00:14f0:e000:80bf:6257:18ff:fe96:3dd6> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 21:03 | |
| *** leinir_ <leinir_!~leinir@amarok/usability/leinir> has joined #jollamobile | 21:03 | |
| *** ShalokShalom <ShalokShalom!~quassel@178.115.129.111.wireless.dyn.drei.com> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 21:03 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@159.175.24.109.rev.sfr.net> has joined #jollamobile | 21:04 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 21:06 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@x55b38d09.dyn.telefonica.de> has joined #jollamobile | 21:11 | |
| *** RoKenn <RoKenn!~RoKenn@2001:a61:21dd:6701:74a4:66bc:3043:d5bd> has quit IRC (Quit: NSA proxy service interrupted) | 21:14 | |
| *** salyavin <salyavin!~salyavin@gokuraku.fcac.com> has joined #jollamobile | 21:16 | |
| *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc4-hitc7-2-0-cust744.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 21:18 | |
| *** dhbiker <dhbiker!~dhbiker@APN-123-64-89-gprs.simobil.net> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 21:20 | |
| *** cmacrae <cmacrae!~cmacrae@cpc4-hitc7-2-0-cust744.9-2.cable.virginm.net> has joined #jollamobile | 21:20 | |
| *** leinir <leinir!~leinir@amarok/usability/leinir> has joined #jollamobile | 21:23 | |
| *** leinir_ <leinir_!~leinir@amarok/usability/leinir> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 21:23 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~quassel@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has joined #jollamobile | 21:25 | |
| *** Morpog_PC <Morpog_PC!~Morpog_PC@185.8.85.171> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 21:27 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.225> has joined #jollamobile | 21:28 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@cam44-h01-31-34-34-125.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 21:32 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 21:34 | |
| *** RavenholmDX <RavenholmDX!~ZNC@137.116.233.196> has joined #jollamobile | 21:37 | |
| *** chriadam|away is now known as chriadam | 21:37 | |
| RavenholmDX | hey guys | 21:37 |
| tadzik | RavenholmDX! It's been a while :) | 21:40 |
| RavenholmDX | Haha, yeah | 21:42 |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.225> has joined #jollamobile | 21:54 | |
| *** korsakov <korsakov!~korsakov@unaffiliated/korsakov> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 21:58 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has joined #jollamobile | 22:00 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.225> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 22:00 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.228> has joined #jollamobile | 22:06 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~zzzz@p5486DBAD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Bouncers suck. It's a fact.) | 22:07 | |
| *** patinux <patinux!~patinux@unaffiliated/patinux> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 22:08 | |
| *** patinux <patinux!~patinux@unaffiliated/patinux> has joined #jollamobile | 22:11 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!samuel@nat/intel/x-xdtvvpuecmetzknr> has joined #jollamobile | 22:16 | |
| tadzik | I'm still up for Insterstellar Marines btw :P | 22:18 |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-1-120-182-247.qcl9.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 22:20 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-1-120-182-247.qcl9.cha.bigpond.net.au> has joined #jollamobile | 22:21 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.228> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 22:22 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.228> has joined #jollamobile | 22:23 | |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-yxmjkpbjvogzzqao> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 22:25 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-1-120-182-247.qcl9.cha.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 22:26 | |
| r0kk3rz | is that like the sigmarines? | 22:26 |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@37.165.4.152> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 22:31 | |
| *** cb400f <cb400f!~cb400f@opensuse/member/Cb400f> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 22:32 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.228> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 22:32 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!samuel@nat/intel/x-xdtvvpuecmetzknr> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 22:34 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.228> has joined #jollamobile | 22:39 | |
| *** Behold <Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 22:39 | |
| *** Behold <Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory> has joined #jollamobile | 22:41 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~quassel@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 22:46 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-42-82.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 22:52 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-42-82.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 22:59 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-42-82.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 22:59 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-30-149-11.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 23:03 | |
| *** Pilke <Pilke!~Pilke@85-76-101-211-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 23:05 | |
| tadzik | I'unno | 23:07 |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.228> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 23:17 | |
| *** NwS <NwS!~NwS@unaffiliated/nws> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 23:18 | |
| *** louisdk <louisdk!~louisdk@94.144.63.228> has joined #jollamobile | 23:18 | |
| *** Teemu <Teemu!uid15744@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sbnrtsjqqlqvgooj> has joined #jollamobile | 23:19 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@159.175.24.109.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 23:24 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@181.253-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 23:26 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@159.175.24.109.rev.sfr.net> has joined #jollamobile | 23:29 | |
| *** natunen <natunen!~nalle@87-100-171-62.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: nalle lntyst takaisin luolan perlle ja palaa taas joskus) | 23:30 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-42-82.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) | 23:33 | |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 23:33 | |
| inte` | new intex phones in the makings... | 23:36 |
| inte` | no intel cpu, though | 23:37 |
| inte` | but still nice, i really need some fresh hardware | 23:37 |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-42-82.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 23:39 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B040E82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 23:48 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B040E82.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 23:48 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 23:48 | |
| *** dazo is now known as dazo_afk | 23:49 | |
| *** the_mgt_ <the_mgt_!~ich@unaffiliated/the-mgt/x-9897421> has joined #jollamobile | 23:52 | |
| *** inte` <inte`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 23:52 | |
| *** the_mgt <the_mgt!~ich@unaffiliated/the-mgt/x-9897421> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 23:55 | |
| *** the_mgt_ is now known as the_mgt | 23:55 | |
| *** pinheiro <pinheiro!~pinheiro@bl18-204-238.dsl.telepac.pt> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 23:56 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!