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| dr_gogeta86 | Free shipping in E.U. Deliveries will start in about fifteenth of July. | 10:58 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | from latsucase.com | 10:58 |
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| pp | ooh :-) but where's the tablet! | 11:04 |
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| ggabriel | soon! | 11:15 |
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| grzywacz | Speaking of lastu... I wonder how one takes calls with this thing on: http://lastucase.com/product/lastu-wallet-case-for-jolla-lompakko-wallet-case-cover-suojakuori/ | 11:29 |
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| Teemu | you flip it open and it looks funnyish on your ear | 11:31 |
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| grzywacz | Oh, like that. | 11:37 |
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| Yaniel | or you can flip it around and it looks relatively sane | 11:40 |
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| ggabriel | those wallets are relatively popular these days and people flip it around i think | 11:46 |
| ggabriel | or they just send you a watsaaaaap and avoid calling :P | 11:47 |
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| grzywacz | ;) | 11:50 |
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| pog | I just activated the remote connection fr my jolla. At the moment ssh promts, but may be I have a wrong user. I tried with root@ | 12:08 |
| pog | and nemo@ | 12:08 |
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| Stskeeps | nemo@ and check password in developer mode | 12:08 |
| pog | thanks | 12:09 |
| pog | nemo at worked (I see now), but took a real long time to login. | 12:10 |
| ggabriel | expected due to power saving | 12:12 |
| pog | could be | 12:12 |
| ggabriel | do the emperical test and you'll realize it is :) | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | empirican evel | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | even even :P | 12:13 |
| * ggabriel can't type today... needs his tohkbd ;) | 12:13 | |
| pog | is there a short documentation/overview about shell commands an what is installed. I see nemo is not installed, and looking for the tools installed. | 12:14 |
| pog | vi improved... :-) | 12:15 |
| Yaniel | a plain busybox installation IIRC | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | you can check packages installed | 12:16 |
| ggabriel | busybox? sailfish runs bash :P | 12:16 |
| Yaniel | whatever the package was called | 12:16 |
| inz | ggabriel, busybox and bash don't exclude each other | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | no, but busybox is just a shell | 12:17 |
| inz | no, it is not | 12:17 |
| inz | busybox includes ash, which is a shell | 12:17 |
| Stskeeps | coreutils is there | 12:17 |
| inz | (or rather, can include) | 12:17 |
| pog | I'm new to sailfish, I have to look for documentation, particullarly paket managment for installion some favorite tools (if not already installed). | 12:18 |
| Yaniel | pkcon | 12:18 |
| Yaniel | and instead of sudo there is devel-su | 12:19 |
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| ggabriel | inz: uhm... ok, still... sailfish doesn't have just busybox | 12:19 |
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| ggabriel | pog: you can get more stuff from mer-tools | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | i'm sure there are a number of tjc questions about this | 12:20 |
| ggabriel | i got sudo from there, since it's a bit more easier to use than devel-su | 12:20 |
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| ggabriel | and loads of people compiled loads of things in openrepos, of course, but that's at your own risk | 12:20 |
| pog | screen is installed :-) | 12:21 |
| pog | thanks | 12:21 |
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| Nicd- | tmux is nicer :) | 12:23 |
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| pog | I heard of tmux but until now I always used screen. | 12:24 |
| ggabriel | i only use tmux because obsd comes with it | 12:24 |
| pog | in general I like to have a shell which ist resident. | 12:25 |
| ggabriel | else they are pretty much the same | 12:25 |
| pog | my weechat (which I use her) runs in a screen session on a virtual server. | 12:25 |
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| pog | is see bash and busybox in /bin | 12:29 |
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| Stskeeps | there's coreutils too | 12:31 |
| Stskeeps | busybox is just there for gzip and udhcp | 12:31 |
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| pog | ok | 12:35 |
| pog | it's nice... have to continue later, thanks and cul8ter | 12:36 |
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| Venemo | good morning!! :) | 15:14 |
| ggabriel | o/ Venemo | 15:14 |
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| pog | I have found the way of installing (for example nano) with pkcon. in the example for me it's not clear, wether it can be executet without devel-su... and might be different usages as root and normal user. | 15:54 |
| ggabriel | nano or pkcon? | 15:55 |
| pog | pkcon is installed an I might install nano | 15:55 |
| ggabriel | what are you wondering what to run as root or not? pkcon or nano? | 15:56 |
| pog | as herehttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92036 | 15:56 |
| pog | usually on installs with root... | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | yes | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | that post is rather old | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | some things may be ok though | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | so be careful | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | "Yeah, you can compile C/C++ code and run .o objects at CLI." | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | yeah, careful with that one, you have to know what you're doing | 15:57 |
| pog | i was not shure, whether there might be another effect, when installing someting as normal user. | 15:57 |
| pog | pkcon (as i think) is similar to apt-get | 15:58 |
| ggabriel | i believe pkcon has to be run as root | 15:59 |
| pog | i don't just likt to compile something (if not neccessary:-) | 15:59 |
| pog | ok | 15:59 |
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| ggabriel | compile in the sdk | 16:01 |
| ggabriel | is my advice | 16:01 |
| pog | I recently compiled somesting (QLC+) on a raspbian, it was extemly easy qmake /make -j4 / make install (in the folder unpacked with tgz). But here I have no idea, but at the moment I just like to install some tools as nano, mc and others. (if not found alternatives with already installed software). | 16:05 |
| ggabriel | mc? wow :) | 16:05 |
| pog | midnight commander | 16:05 |
| ggabriel | i know it | 16:06 |
| pog | i love it, particularly when coping things to another machine. | 16:06 |
| pog | actually I plan to use my jolla to make some easy maintenance on some PI-Maschines via hostapd | 16:07 |
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| pog | so I have to learn to use the console... :-) | 16:08 |
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| chem|st | pog: add mer-tools repo, there should be plenty of stuff you may need | 16:54 |
| chem|st | or well activate it, I think it comes disabled but is already set up | 16:55 |
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| pog | what does Packagekit? it interferes with zypper. | 16:58 |
| pog | chem|st: I have found some hints... I just have found hint to install mc via zyper. | 16:59 |
| chem|st | pog: do not use zypper | 17:03 |
| chem|st | use pkcon | 17:03 |
| chem|st | iirc zypper has no configuration that is in any way save | 17:03 |
| pog | o.k. I try | 17:04 |
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| pog | nano worked perfectly, I'm looking now for mc | 17:04 |
| chem|st | become familiar with using pkcon | 17:04 |
| pog | yep | 17:04 |
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| Teemu | how does one configure the wlan via cli? | 17:11 |
| Teemu | the gui is failing at times to understand that i'm actually willing to connect to a network that doesn't connect to internet and that i will not want it to automagically go search for one that does | 17:11 |
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| Osanwe | Teemu: try `wpa_cli` http://sirlagz.net/2012/08/27/how-to-use-wpa_cli-to-connect-to-a-wireless-network/ | 17:16 |
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| Osanwe | Teemu: It requires root access | 17:17 |
| pog | Teemu: (on the PI) i used wpa_passphrase and wpa_supplicant, that seem's rather easy to me, without any network manager. | 17:19 |
| pog | here on the jolla, wlan connection worked directly :-) | 17:19 |
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| Teemu | yes yes but the problem is, i'm every now and then willing to join a test network in a situation when a normal open or preconfigured working network is in hearing range | 17:21 |
| Teemu | in that case, i cannot even join the nonworking one as it automagically gets disconnected in favour of the one that provides interweb tubes connexion | 17:21 |
| Teemu | nonworking being in this case that the network happens to be local wlan only with no connections to anywhere | 17:21 |
| pog | ah... for wpa_ you can even create a one-liner and or make a script. | 17:22 |
| pog | I don't know for jolla, but in general the network manager disturb the connection one makes on the cli. | 17:24 |
| pog | Teemu: on problem was in my case, that networkmanager always disconnected wlan, when no IP-Adress was delivered (but there are definitly to steps, establish to wlan, and give an IP). | 17:28 |
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| Morpog_PC | I have that feeling that 1.1.7 is getting skipped for 1.1.9 | 18:45 |
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| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: what makes you say that? | 18:48 |
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| Morpog_PC | no eary access of 1.1.7 yet :D | 18:50 |
| Morpog_PC | early | 18:50 |
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| Morpog_PC | also that openssl problem | 18:50 |
| Stskeeps | ******* openssl | 18:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 18:51 |
| Morpog_PC | :D | 18:51 |
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| r0kk3rz | or it all gets rolled up into 2.0 | 18:58 |
| r0kk3rz | unless they're planning on releasing the tablet with a 1.X release | 18:59 |
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| _inte_ | I started a btrfs balance yesterday and its still running | 19:01 |
| _inte_ | is that normal? | 19:01 |
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| r0kk3rz | on the outside of normal | 19:04 |
| _inte_ | i mean, the fs is quite full, but still | 19:04 |
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| _inte_ | last time it took only like a few hours... | 19:05 |
| r0kk3rz | usually its best to remove stuff from filesystem before balance | 19:05 |
| _inte_ | well, yeah | 19:05 |
| _inte_ | i normaly removed until I went below 10gig | 19:05 |
| r0kk3rz | but there have been reports of it taking many hours to complete | 19:05 |
| _inte_ | now i started with like 11 or 12 gig | 19:06 |
| _inte_ | bad idea, obviously | 19:06 |
| r0kk3rz | you can cancel it i think | 19:06 |
| _inte_ | uh, i dont dare | 19:06 |
| _inte_ | im afraid of data loss | 19:07 |
| _inte_ | i of course made no backup in advance :) | 19:07 |
| _inte_ | and i could imaging having using even more space after a cancel | 19:07 |
| r0kk3rz | stick it on charge and then wait | 19:08 |
| _inte_ | doing that | 19:08 |
| r0kk3rz | come back in a week and hope its done | 19:08 |
| _inte_ | hehe | 19:08 |
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| _inte_ | hopefully in the morning | 19:08 |
| _inte_ | is there any chance to optain some progress info | 19:08 |
| _inte_ | btw, sth. funny from hamburg... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2RGeqjHeCU | 19:09 |
| _inte_ | slightly OT :) | 19:09 |
| _inte_ | btt: does the jolla turn into a somewhat readonly mode while the btrfs rebalance is running? | 19:15 |
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