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| lordchavez | Hey, hope some one is on. I tried to find a solution on together.jolla.com but i am not sure what my error is. long story short, my device died half an hour ago, and wouldnt reboot, i charged it to 30% and turned it back on, it got stuck at the jolla logo. recovery via telnet was done but didn't change anything. Someone here who could help? | 01:04 |
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| chriadam | lordchavez: are you able to fully charge it? | 01:08 |
| chriadam | lordchavez: some things (modems, etc) can require a lot of power to turn on, and it may be that the battery charge level isn't being reported correctly for some reason | 01:08 |
| lordchavez | its attached to my powersuply supported usb hub, and i can see the charging "logo" | 01:09 |
| lordchavez | it doesn't show any percentage tho | 01:09 |
| chriadam | if the system thinks it has a certain amount of power, but actually has far less, and then turns on something which draws a lot of power, that could cause the voltage to slump below a failsafe level | 01:09 |
| lordchavez | for like five minutes now | 01:09 |
| chriadam | I don't remember if it reports the percentage in act-dead (charging) mode | 01:10 |
| chriadam | but 5 minutes is not enough to charge the device any significant amount | 01:10 |
| lordchavez | true, i had charged it at my usb charger for half an hour to 30% and attached tryed to reboot it, as it didn't work out i went through the factory reset routine. | 01:10 |
| lordchavez | -attached | 01:11 |
| lordchavez | but the LED would usually start flashing red, if the powerlevel is way to low, right? | 01:12 |
| lordchavez | ( for a boot ) | 01:12 |
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| chriadam | I'm uncertain what the LED patterns correlate to | 01:13 |
| chriadam | but if the system is misreporting the voltage level, that would explain why you're not getting the expected LED pattern anyway | 01:13 |
| chriadam | note: it may be something entirely unrelated to battery charge | 01:13 |
| lordchavez | true tho | 01:13 |
| chriadam | but battery charge is just the simplest thing I can think of | 01:13 |
| lordchavez | what else ( instead of battery charge, could you think of? | 01:14 |
| lordchavez | i read, about problems according to the qt5 lib | 01:15 |
| chriadam | it could be a filesystem corruption for example | 01:19 |
| chriadam | but anything like that would be highly unlikely and highly nasty | 01:20 |
| chriadam | someone like spiiroin or phdeswer would know far more and be able to help you far more than I can - but they're in .fi tz so probably not online for another 5 hours I guess. | 01:22 |
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| lordchavez | True, just one more question, do you know if i could check the battery charge level from the recovery shell? | 01:23 |
| chriadam | hrm | 01:27 |
| chriadam | not sure tbh | 01:27 |
| chriadam | no doubt it's possible via some dsme command (which I assume gets loaded with the minimal boot environment) | 01:27 |
| chriadam | does dsmetool or dsme-tool exist? | 01:28 |
| chriadam | but in any case, if the charge is being incorrectly reported to the system by the hardware, then that will just report the wrong value anyway I guess | 01:28 |
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| lordchavez | soo after 1 hour of charghing ( which was usually enough to get it up to 75% it gets stuck at the "jolla" logo while booting... :/ | 01:45 |
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| spiiroin | looks like lordchavez is gone, but battery level can be checked with: cat /run/state/namespaces/Battery/ChargePercentage | 03:03 |
| spiiroin | 30% should be plenty enough; getting stuck at jolla logo kind of points towards problems before/during lipstick startup | 03:05 |
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| narchie | quality wlan interface | 05:39 |
| narchie | 100% quality | 05:39 |
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| ilpianista | so, how do I get a Jolla t-shirt? | 07:25 |
| ilpianista | (where to buy?) | 07:25 |
| Yaniel | I don't think there are any for sale atm | 07:26 |
| ilpianista | Yaniel, no t-shirts or any kind of merchandising? | 07:27 |
| Yaniel | not that I know | 07:28 |
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| ilpianista | tweeted @JollaHQ just in case | 07:28 |
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| Nicd- | they should sell new "I am the first one" shirts to the first ones :P the colors on mine are cracked all over | 07:39 |
| tabasko | howdy! I installed google play on latest SailfishOS with howto found from together.jolla.com | 07:40 |
| tabasko | google play starts but it cant connect | 07:40 |
| tabasko | other android apps can connect to internet | 07:41 |
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| Wnt | tabasko: Jolla recommends against installing Google Services (and thus Google Play) on Sailfish: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201440787#gplay | 08:34 |
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| ilpianista | flattr support in Harbour?!? can't wait!! http://jollacommunity.it/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Screenshot-17-06-15-23-07-42.png | 08:35 |
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| Tofe | Yes, that's very good news | 08:48 |
| Trezker | yay, something uses flattr \o/ | 08:50 |
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| Wnt | the official Flattr support announcement: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-June/006266.html | 09:08 |
| ln- | it's certainly illegal for anyone living in finland to use it in their app. | 09:09 |
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| Nicd- | ln-: it's kind of a gray area afaik | 09:10 |
| Nicd- | http://oikeusjakohtuus.blogspot.fi/2010/01/lahjoita.html | 09:10 |
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| tabasko | Wht, alright. I remove it | 09:14 |
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| chem|st | tabasko: unless you really need something with gservices you should not install them | 09:45 |
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| tabasko | chem|st: Its not that important. I can download my paid apps using tools | 10:02 |
| tabasko | does anyone know how often cardav syncs? | 10:02 |
| tabasko | I created two accounts to sync caldav and carddav. Caldav account has sync time option but carddav does not | 10:03 |
| tabasko | using owncloud so those are in separate paths | 10:03 |
| Nicd- | tabasko: I think it's once per day and after certain events | 10:03 |
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| tabasko | Nicd-: oalright | 10:08 |
| locusf | any other big news other than Flattr today :) ? | 10:27 |
| locusf | OSS namely | 10:27 |
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| Armadillo | depends on your definition of "big" ;) | 10:53 |
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| chem|st | locusf: I found a new lake in the woods... well actually the woods became a lake this morning... (big enough?) | 11:06 |
| * chem|st is soaked wet from 40min in the woods | 11:06 | |
| locusf | chem|st: heheh don't catch a cold :) | 11:09 |
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| clau | hi, I've noticed that Android Notifications by coderus stopped working after latest release. any clue if this is an incompatability issue between Android Notifications and Jolla (either OS or Android VM), or did Android VM stop producing notifications completely? | 12:52 |
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| chem|st | we really need a way to prevent these btrfs lockups... anyone an idea about that? Would it work better if we setup subvolume quota? | 13:29 |
| ggabriel | will a quota help? | 13:33 |
| ggabriel | given that you may or may not get locked up depending on a number of things | 13:33 |
| ggabriel | my btrfs volume was full for a while before the nightly balance and I never had problems, a quota may have made things worse for me | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | it isn't a bad idea though | 13:34 |
| ggabriel | if only you had a quota for the metadata or whatever it is that can't be written any more | 13:35 |
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| chem|st | ggabriel: either you or me are misunderstanding metadata... | 15:52 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: probably me | 15:53 |
| ggabriel | i know the btrfs problem is related to metadata, just not sure exactly how | 15:53 |
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| chem|st | ggabriel: it is mis/unallocated datachunks that give you space back, at least from what I understand... | 15:55 |
| chem|st | that is at least waht balance -dusage cleans up iirc | 15:55 |
| ggabriel | uhm... ok | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | so it's clear then that those data chunks get misallocated across volumes | 15:56 |
| ggabriel | so not sure a quota will work | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | i like your principle though, it's pretty much like open bsd works if you use the default fs partitions | 15:57 |
| ggabriel | s/fs/disk/ | 15:57 |
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| Llg179 | hi | 19:08 |
| Llg179 | anyone is active hete? | 19:08 |
| Mikaela | hi | 19:09 |
| Llg179 | would you please run a command on your jolla phone and provide its output? | 19:10 |
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| Llg179 | https://together.jolla.com/question/95709/ | 19:11 |
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| Llg179 | find /home/nemo/.local/share/ -ls | grep -v "nemo *nemo" | 19:13 |
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| Taaem | http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/18/8808189/nokia-is-returning-to-phones thats a nice one | 19:34 |
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| ln- | in plain english: they'll be branding some generic android phone as nokia. | 19:41 |
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| kimmoli | Llg179: https://pastebin.com/LrGbjKka | 19:45 |
| Llg179 | thank you! | 19:46 |
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| Llg179 | kimmoli: thank you so much! would you please run it again as root? there is a permission denied folder in the list | 19:50 |
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| kimmoli | moment | 19:51 |
| Llg179 | my apology for not being accurate | 19:52 |
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| kimmoli | Llg179: this is the privileged part: https://pastebin.com/hJHp8Pwt | 19:58 |
| Llg179 | thank you! | 19:59 |
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| sakustar | was there an app to group icons into foders? | 20:06 |
| flux | sakustar, somehow automatically or what do you mean? | 20:07 |
| sakustar | manually is fine | 20:07 |
| flux | well, you can do that with the stock firmware, as long as it's up to date.. | 20:07 |
| sakustar | oh? | 20:07 |
| flux | just drag an element over another I think | 20:07 |
| sakustar | *tries* | 20:08 |
| sakustar | oh | 20:08 |
| sakustar | thanks | 20:09 |
| sakustar | they tend to slip out of the way but it worked :) | 20:09 |
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| Mikaela | ok crashing official aptoide, this game can be played two directions. if you are crashy, I will simply use Jolla Store Aptoide and add the same three stores and update with it. | 20:24 |
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| Mikaela | hmm and it stops crashing when facebook and messenger are updated with the old jolla store versio. | 20:26 |
| Mikaela | or not | 20:27 |
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| pdanek1 | Do you think there will be no Jolla 2 this year? | 20:44 |
| pdanek1 | Last year it was said that new phone will be "no later than next year" | 20:44 |
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| kimmoli | jolla 2 is released feb/2016 | 20:51 |
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| pdanek1 | kimmoli: why do you think so? | 20:52 |
| r0kk3rz | more like feb 200016 | 20:52 |
| fennekki | why would there be another jolla phone | 20:52 |
| fennekki | I thought there wasn't supposed to be another one | 20:53 |
| fennekki | more sailfish ones by others but | 20:53 |
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| r0kk3rz | well they wanted to sell 1M jphones, which they didnt get anywhere near | 20:54 |
| r0kk3rz | so no doubt they made a significant loss over the whole thing | 20:55 |
| kimmoli | so what it could be named, sailfish phone manufactured by someone? | 20:55 |
| r0kk3rz | well we're supposed to find out soon | 20:57 |
| r0kk3rz | I do wonder whether its going to accompany a device announcement of some kind | 20:57 |
| r0kk3rz | or just a [manufacturer] says maybe | 20:58 |
| fennekki | I think there was some rumor about a manufacturer saying maybe already | 20:58 |
| r0kk3rz | well they said one would be announced before summer break | 21:00 |
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| sakustar | stupid here maps on android | 21:02 |
| sakustar | do the new lumias still have decent offline maps? | 21:02 |
| sakustar | my 820 navigator was taken :( | 21:03 |
| fennekki | summer break | 21:04 |
| fennekki | of schools? The one that started first week of June? | 21:04 |
| fennekki | :V | 21:04 |
| Obi-Lan | 640xl ok | 21:08 |
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| BBLobster | Hi | 22:43 |
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| BBLobster | Is there any way to create qml component recursively? I am implementing a chat where user can resend messages to another user, so as a result I want to see message component containing another message | 22:46 |
| BBLobster | But I dont know maximum depth of such forward messages, so I cannot just create prototypes for each situation | 22:47 |
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| BBLobster | For now I use Loader component to load component recursively, but there is 2 bugs - firstly, it is very slow, so if I had 100 messages in chat with a lot of forwarded messages, it took up to 2 second to load page | 22:49 |
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| BBLobster | Secondly, scroll bar behavior strange - Loader component (as I understand) unload my component when it hidden, so when I scroll overall height changes | 22:50 |
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| BBLobster | May be someone know good way to create items recursively, or some ideas how to make that part of code work faster, and without scroll bugs? | 22:54 |
| BBLobster | By now, I have only one idea - move that component to C++ code, where I would be able to create item without Loader component | 22:55 |
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| BBLobster | Oh, sorry, wrong chat I think, right? | 23:07 |
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| fennekki | humm | 23:18 |
| fennekki | I dunno if you can make components in JS. Possibly? I never tried it | 23:18 |
| fennekki | Mostly because it turned out none of the OTHER stuff I needed to do could be done in JS | 23:18 |
| fennekki | I mean, create them recursively, anyway | 23:18 |
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| BBLobster | hm, I think it may work | 23:36 |
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