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| tadzik | this is your daily reminder to vote for https://together.jolla.com/question/1836/set-default-browser/ (pretty please :)) | 09:00 |
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| Mikaela | I have only been using the default browser and using Android browser doesn't seem like a good idea because it opens aliendalvik which I have timer to kill it hourly | 09:02 |
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| tadzik | well, untill I see a native browser with text reflow I'm stuck with android | 09:03 |
| tadzik | I know WebPirate has it planned | 09:03 |
| politie | text reflow | 09:04 |
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| politie | oh | 09:05 |
| tadzik | or auto-wrapping | 09:05 |
| politie | doesnt webpirate do that allready? | 09:05 |
| tadzik | I don't think so | 09:05 |
| politie | ok, i dont browse mobile but did install webpirate, thought i read that | 09:06 |
| tadzik | no, doesn't | 09:06 |
| tadzik | it's a planned feature from what I read | 09:06 |
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| politie | Oh ok, than i just skimmed te text and misunderstood | 09:11 |
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| tadzik | sweet cheeses, Poor Maps is absolutely kickass | 09:15 |
| Stskeeps | Poor Maps? | 09:15 |
| tadzik | yeah, it's in Warehouse | 09:15 |
| tadzik | most misleading name ever | 09:15 |
| ggabriel | what's so special? | 09:16 |
| tadzik | think of modrana with smooth scrolling and more efficient UI | 09:16 |
| ggabriel | interesting | 09:16 |
| Nicd- | the screenshots look nice | 09:16 |
| tadzik | I switched from Here too Google Maps since Here doesn't support Japan | 09:17 |
| tadzik | then to Modrana because it gave better search results than gmaps | 09:17 |
| ggabriel | yeah, i use modrana for japan | 09:17 |
| tadzik | and now poor has smooth zooming (sorry, zooming, not scrolling), and everything needs less clicks | 09:17 |
| ggabriel | which can download gmaps fwiw | 09:17 |
| tadzik | yeah, I used that too | 09:18 |
| tadzik | I wonder if I could implement a geocaching geocoder for it | 09:18 |
| urs | I'm still primarily using OsmAnd in aliendalvik to look at maps, but a native app of comparable quality would be great. | 09:19 |
| urs | So I guess I should have a look at Poor Maps then. | 09:19 |
| ggabriel | tsk tsk poor maps doesn't do offline maps | 09:20 |
| urs | Also, I heard positive things about maep | 09:20 |
| urs | maep-qt, to be precise | 09:20 |
| tadzik | well, it does cache tiles as long as you want, but can't pre-download them, yes | 09:20 |
| ggabriel | yes, i read in the comments | 09:21 |
| ggabriel | ui looks nice, yes | 09:21 |
| tadzik | I recently requested an easier way to route to a point in map in modrana, MartinK has just implemented it in today's release, but it seems like poor maps has had it before even | 09:24 |
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| baum | i heared that sailfish will end up on a git repo? can anyone confirm this? | 12:51 |
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| Stskeeps | well, not one.. | 12:52 |
| baum | Stskeeps: means? | 12:52 |
| Stskeeps | http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/28/jolla-pushes-brics-partnerships-to-target-android-in-emerging-markets/ bottom | 12:52 |
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| baum | alright, thanks for the link.....guess i'll have to keep waiting and drinking tea :) | 12:59 |
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| mondial | hello all | 12:59 |
| baum | hello you | 13:00 |
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| * mondial has a failed upgrade to 1.1.6.27 :-s | 13:02 | |
| Stskeeps | contacted care? | 13:02 |
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| mondial | not yet | 13:02 |
| mondial | i tried to revert back to 1.1.4.29 | 13:03 |
| TemeV | first step is always to ask help in irc. Usually problem solves it self that way :) | 13:03 |
| mondial | de initial problem was no more space on btrfs | 13:03 |
| oh8gnz | if the answer is not the usual RTFM | 13:04 |
| mondial | got that fixed with in recovery mode | 13:04 |
| * baum just realized how lucky he was that all updates worked yet | 13:04 | |
| mondial | i now have no screen but ssh to my jolla | 13:05 |
| * baum even forgot to disable the openRepos on the last update | 13:05 | |
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| Nicd- | baum: you don't need to do that anymore. though it's a good practice anyway | 13:05 |
| mondial | problem is with the refresh of the jolla repos :s | 13:06 |
| baum | Nicd-: oh good to know....when i pressed the update button yesterday i was like....oh...sh...the repos... | 13:06 |
| Morpog | Never had any problems with any update yet :D | 13:07 |
| Nicd- | me neither | 13:07 |
| Morpog | And I never disabled any openreps repos :D | 13:07 |
| Morpog | As I don't install lib stuff or system critical stuff from there | 13:08 |
| mondial | when i try version --dup i get the message "adaption0: [|] Valid metadate not found at specified URL(s) | 13:08 |
| mondial | also for eas/store/xt9 | 13:08 |
| mondial | already tried to use a new token in then /etc/ssu/ssu.ini | 13:09 |
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| mondial | does anyone have any pointers to set the auth for these repos so i can complete my downgrade? | 13:10 |
| Morpog | why the hell do you downgrade? | 13:10 |
| baum | Morpog: because the upgrade failed | 13:10 |
| Morpog | just upgrade again so it installs missing stuff | 13:10 |
| mondial | for that I still need valid auth from the ssu | 13:11 |
| mondial | if i ssu re 1.1.6.27 i get the same problem... | 13:12 |
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| mondial | in the /etc/ssu/ssu.ini i have my jolla username and the oauth token as password... is this ok? | 13:13 |
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| mondial | btw zypper and pkcon also both get an timeout on refreshing those repos | 13:15 |
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| baum | uhm no idea how to fix it mondial sorry =/ | 13:18 |
| mondial | can somebody look in his /etc/ssu/ssu.ini and confirm if under [credentials-store] you have username=[your jolla store username] and password=[a valid oauth token] | 13:23 |
| * Mikaela can look at hers and it as password before username, but otherwise yes | 13:24 | |
| Mikaela | *has | 13:24 |
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| mondial | @Mikaela tnx | 13:25 |
| Mikaela | you're welccome | 13:25 |
| chem|st | mondial: nope no token | 13:26 |
| mondial | @chem|st... me listening... | 13:26 |
| chem|st | mondial: at least not one of the tokens on account.jolla.com | 13:27 |
| mondial | password isn't a 10 digit auth token? | 13:27 |
| chem|st | it is a 10 digit token yes | 13:29 |
| chem|st | mondial: thought oauth is longer | 13:29 |
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| chem|st | ah found it... | 13:30 |
| chem|st | ok yes oauth token | 13:30 |
| mondial | jep the key and secret are longer buth if you click on the name you would see the auth token... | 13:32 |
| chem|st | as said, found it | 13:32 |
| chem|st | so you tried to downgrade a broken upgrade? | 13:33 |
| mondial | yep... | 13:33 |
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| mondial | but i think it uninstalled some packages from the repo's that i can't access anymore. | 13:34 |
| chem|st | bad idea | 13:34 |
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| chem|st | you cannot just swap between versions with ssu re #otherVersion | 13:35 |
| mondial | when i got in recovery mode and did een su-devel on my chrooted /root partition i saw the 1.1.4.29 motd | 13:36 |
| chem|st | domain is sales? re is 1.1.6.27? | 13:36 |
| mondial | so i thought it would be best to re bach to that version | 13:37 |
| chem|st | no, in any case like that I'd try to reapply the upgrade, not try to revert cahnges | 13:38 |
| mondial | domain is sales | 13:38 |
| mondial | re 1.1.4.29 | 13:38 |
| chem|st | the upgrade you tried to apply before is 1.1.6? | 13:39 |
| chem|st | set it to latest upgrade you tried to apply | 13:39 |
| chem|st | check that no pkcon or rpm processes are still hanging somewhere in the wild | 13:40 |
| chem|st | is RW and you have space left... real space not metadata-imaginary-friend-space | 13:40 |
| chem|st | / is RW... | 13:41 |
| chem|st | version --dup | 13:43 |
| mondial | btrfs fi df / Data, single: total=11.87GiB, used=7.07GiB System, DUP: total=32.00MiB, used=4.00KiB System, single: total=4.00MiB, used=0.00 Metadata, DUP: total=480.00MiB, used=240.43MiB | 13:43 |
| chem|st | mondial: you are in recovery shell! | 13:43 |
| chem|st | he a linebreak | 13:44 |
| chem|st | ok is writeable? | 13:44 |
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| mondial | nope i'm booted and connected via ssh | 13:45 |
| chem|st | yeah linebreak in my irc client did mess up | 13:45 |
| mondial | so yes the / is RW mounted | 13:46 |
| chem|st | a simple "yes" is enough though... | 13:46 |
| chem|st | mondial: check that you can write it | 13:46 |
| chem|st | mounted rw does not mean it is writeable (we have learned recently) | 13:46 |
| mondial | yep learned the same thing ;-) | 13:47 |
| mondial | df -h != btrfs fi df / | 13:47 |
| mondial | i did the df before the upgrade and saw enough free space but the btrfs was full :-s | 13:48 |
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| mondial | that's propably why the upgrade failed ... | 13:48 |
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| chem|st | do we have internet? | 13:49 |
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| chem|st | if all that is yes, then version --dup and pastebin the output if any error | 13:50 |
| * mondial #ssu re 1.1.6.27 Changing release from 1.1.4.29 to 1.1.6.27 Your device is now in release mode! | 13:51 | |
| chem|st | good, we now know by now that you are able to paste terminal output to IRC | 13:51 |
| chem|st | ;) | 13:51 |
| mondial | yep internet ok (resolving and pinging to www.google.com are np) | 13:52 |
| mondial | and now pray? :-p | 13:52 |
| chem|st | can you ping store-repository.jolla.com | 13:53 |
| mondial | btw no packagekit/rmp/pkcon running on the system | 13:53 |
| mondial | nope can't ping but i can resolce | 13:54 |
| mondial | *resolve* | 13:54 |
| chem|st | ok yeah ping seems to be disabled... | 13:54 |
| chem|st | yeah print and pray the birds of prey | 13:55 |
| mondial | go directly to version --dup or try a zypper ref first? | 13:55 |
| chem|st | version --dup | 13:55 |
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| mondial | think i have the same behavior as with the previous version --dup waiting for a timeout on the refresh | 13:57 |
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| * mondial still at refreshing 0% | 13:59 | |
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| * mondial refreshing 0% -> 44% | 13:59 | |
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| * mondial refreshing 44% -> 77% | 14:01 | |
| chem|st | I'd love to have my Jolla have a tad more verbosity | 14:01 |
| chem|st | mondial: I guess it did not do that before right? | 14:01 |
| mondial | yep it did :-( | 14:01 |
| chem|st | oh it did... | 14:02 |
| narchie | jolla tablet, shipping may 2015 | 14:02 |
| chem|st | and after that pukeing about cannot refresh store-repo? | 14:02 |
| chem|st | narchie: soon(TM) thought you people learned that with Jolla1... | 14:02 |
| Aciid | btw humanity will be on mars before jolla tablet | 14:03 |
| chem|st | narchie: and it is a crowdfunding... never seen a crowdfunding be on time yet (one said we are pretty on track until their production blew up in their faces) | 14:03 |
| mondial | version --dup is downloading | 14:03 |
| chem|st | mondial: so no errors after refreshing? | 14:04 |
| mondial | unfortunately i got this message: | 14:04 |
| mondial | Message: adaptation0: [|] Valid metadata not found at specified URL(s) adaptation1: [|] Valid metadata not found at specified URL(s) aliendalvik: Store credentials not received. Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. eas: [|] Valid metadata not found at specified URL(s) store: [|] V | 14:04 |
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| mondial | i hope i'll be left with at least a sshd after this ;-) otherwise back to the recovery... | 14:05 |
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| chem|st | mondial: well steps after that failing would be reboot try again, and after that factory-reset (or you find someone that knows how to reset accounts in terminal, sure there is a way I do not knwo about yet) | 14:06 |
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| mondial | i don't like to factory reset... but i have a tar of my home volume ready, sure do hope i won't be needing it | 14:10 |
| mondial | any experience in restoring the /home from a tar? | 14:11 |
| Morpog | Maybe the download URL's are different? | 14:11 |
| * mondial download done... upgrading system 11% | 14:11 | |
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| Morpog | mondial: I guess nieldk could answer you, but he is not on | 14:12 |
| Morpog | maybe coderus can offer guidance as well with restoring from a tar | 14:12 |
| ggabriel | mondial: easier than i was expecting tbh | 14:13 |
| ggabriel | just remember to include .* in your tar and you should be alright | 14:13 |
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| mondial | i'll double check if i included the hidden files/dirs | 14:14 |
| mondial | tnx for the pointer | 14:14 |
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| * mondial upgrade @83% | 14:19 | |
| mondial | k done | 14:21 |
| mondial | shall i reboot now? | 14:22 |
| ggabriel | why would you? | 14:22 |
| mondial | well to complete the upgrade? | 14:23 |
| mondial | or can i check some things 1st b4 reboot? | 14:23 |
| ggabriel | oh, you upgraded through CLI, i have no clue | 14:24 |
| mondial | ok, here goes nothing ;-) | 14:24 |
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| coderus | mondial: do you see text at the end of upgrade process? | 14:26 |
| mondial | yep alot of packages... and | 14:26 |
| mondial | REBOOT NOW unless you need to investigate update issues or know what you are doing (or both). All bugs encountered until reboot are features. | 14:26 |
| mondial | reboot done... still have sshd running | 14:27 |
| mondial | MOTD is now SailfishOS 1.1.6.27 (Aaslakkajärvi) (armv7hl) | 14:27 |
| mondial | have 2 go now... thank to you all for the help so far | 14:29 |
| mondial | will drop by l8er | 14:29 |
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| Almindor | is there a way to see the log of a particular system app with journalctl (via ssh)? | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | which "system app"? | 15:22 |
| Almindor | phone | 15:23 |
| Almindor | the app just crashes on me when I try to make a phone all after last update, I wanna see what the crash is | 15:24 |
| ggabriel | well, the backend certainly writes stuff to the system log | 15:24 |
| Almindor | *phone call | 15:24 |
| ggabriel | so, try journalctl -f and look for errors | 15:24 |
| Almindor | hmm I see something | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | else find the .desktop file for the phone application and launch it from the command line | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | afraid that you'll have to check in the phone, rather than ssh | 15:25 |
| ggabriel | i did notice something strange with phone calls too after the upgrade :( | 15:26 |
| Almindor | it does crash on glib errors http://pastebin.com/tiLVE1dA | 15:27 |
| Almindor | but I think the cause is a kernel kill | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | yuk... tried tjc? | 15:28 |
| Almindor | tjc? | 15:28 |
| ggabriel | together.jolla.com | 15:28 |
| Almindor | yeah https://together.jolla.com/question/96376/update-11627-breaks-phone-function/ :) | 15:29 |
| Almindor | I'm gonna try the "refresh/factory reset" later today but I need my auth codes on another phone | 15:29 |
| ggabriel | well, that's certainly a good way to start from scratch | 15:30 |
| ggabriel | especialliy given that this doesn't happen to everybody | 15:30 |
| ggabriel | but it'd be nice to know what the issue is exactly | 15:30 |
| Almindor | it could be network related | 15:30 |
| Almindor | there aren't many jolla users in canada (stuck with rogers in 2G) | 15:31 |
| Almindor | and rogers just did a network update on their tower hw | 15:31 |
| ggabriel | i can't even test 2g :) | 15:31 |
| Almindor | but I can still SMS! | 15:31 |
| Almindor | so it's not the network connection itself | 15:31 |
| Almindor | voicecall-manag: unhandled page fault (11) at 0xbe9c1ff8, code 0x817 | 15:33 |
| Almindor | this is a bad pointer bug | 15:33 |
| ggabriel | yup | 15:33 |
| Almindor | might be it can't get some GSM object or such, seems it happens right after dialing call | 15:34 |
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| mondial | back | 16:08 |
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| Milo- | my other half is defective.. it keeps triggering the jolla store sporadically, thus causing odd vibrations in the pocket area | 16:14 |
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| Milo- | no more tohd service, whee | 16:20 |
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| mondial | my jolla is still blacked out after the upgrade to 1.1.6.27 :-( | 17:34 |
| mondial | still can't refresh jolla store repos.. | 17:35 |
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| mondial | output of ssu lr & zypper -vvv ref -f http://pastebin.com/a30QV2hE | 17:36 |
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| Stskeeps | store-client needs to be active for that | 17:37 |
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| mondial | how can i "activate" the "store-client"? | 17:39 |
| mondial | some systemctl ? | 17:39 |
| mondial | i found /usr/bin/store-client but it can't start without a display :-s | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | what the devil did you do.. | 17:44 |
| Stskeeps | first off, how did you upgrade? | 17:44 |
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| mondial | gui -> failed bad no screen/no network -> recovery mode -> got 1.1.4.29 back (bad .so in /usr/lib) -> version --dup (but saw during update that none of the secured repos where refreshed/fetched -> got black screen again but with ssh access -> did ssu re 1.1.6.27 && version --dup -> no screen but still ssh access | 17:52 |
| mondial | so now on a partial 1.1.6.27 version | 17:53 |
| mondial | i'm not able to refresh the repos from "store-repository.jolla.com" | 17:54 |
| mondial | already tried to create an new jolla auth key and update the /etc/ssu/ssu.ini | 17:55 |
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| Stskeeps | okay.. and factory reset isn't an option? | 17:59 |
| * mondial was hoping for an less drastic solution | 18:02 | |
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| mondial | looks like just some repo problems, was hoping to get this fixed | 18:03 |
| Stskeeps | you're so far out in this that me, who's using devel level sailfishos, would just give up :P | 18:03 |
| locusf | woah | 18:04 |
| mondial | well i'm learning allot about the structure of sailfish... have more experience with freebsd and debian | 18:05 |
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| mondial | seems like the repos adaptation0 and 1 are also gone after the last upgrade :-s | 18:17 |
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| Xiph_ | Hi guys, my phone does not seem to find the latest update. | 18:45 |
| Xiph_ | Hi | 18:46 |
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| Xiph | hi guys | 18:47 |
| Xiph | my phone does not seem to find the latest update. | 18:47 |
| Xiph | what am I doing wrong? | 18:47 |
| Yaniel | does store work? | 18:48 |
| Xiph | well, it doesn't give me any errors | 18:48 |
| Xiph | but I've noticed that there haven't been any new apps in a while | 18:49 |
| Xiph | and some apps does not have an icon | 18:49 |
| Xiph | in the store | 18:49 |
| TemeV | latest app seems to be Textractor, published yesterday in store | 18:50 |
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| TemeV | can you see that? | 18:51 |
| Xiph | hmm, ok mine says FMI weather WV | 18:51 |
| Mikaela | I think there was something at together about no new Sailfish releases being found and manual update instructions, but I cannot find them | 18:51 |
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| TemeV | Mikaela: propably this one https://together.jolla.com/question/96088/cannot-start-os-update/ | 18:53 |
| Mikaela | yes | 18:54 |
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| TemeV | does version --dup disable open repos etc? | 18:54 |
| Mikaela | could `version --dup` help in this case? | 18:54 |
| Yaniel | I'd try clearing the package cache first | 18:54 |
| Yaniel | with sailfish-utilities | 18:55 |
| Yaniel | and check btrfs fi show | 18:55 |
| Xiph | I've already tried that | 18:55 |
| Xiph | thing is that it doesn't even find latest update | 18:56 |
| Xiph | also, in Settings->Update Sailfish OS | 18:56 |
| ln- | oh, jolla would have a great chance to hire a former CEO with experience on mobile phones: http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/17/8796055/stephen-elop-mark-penn-leave-microsoft | 18:56 |
| Xiph | I can't see the version number | 18:56 |
| Xiph | it only says Version | 18:56 |
| Yaniel | lol ln- | 18:56 |
| TemeV | Xiph: what's the output of ssu release | 18:57 |
| Xiph | Device release is currently: 1.1.6.27 | 18:58 |
| TemeV | 1.1.6.27 is the latest update | 18:58 |
| Xiph | but that might be becaus I tried: ssu releasse 1.1.6.27 | 18:58 |
| TemeV | yeah, that changes that | 18:58 |
| Xiph | as in https://together.jolla.com/question/96088/cannot-start-os-update/ | 18:58 |
| TemeV | I guess that could break the gui way of upgrading | 18:59 |
| Xiph | well, the gui was already broken | 18:59 |
| Xiph | that's why I tried doing this | 18:59 |
| TemeV | then you should do version --dup to actually get the update | 18:59 |
| Xiph | it says command not found | 18:59 |
| TemeV | as root? | 19:00 |
| Xiph | yes | 19:00 |
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| Mikaela | I think it's supposed to be ran as nemo and then it asks for password and does what it should | 19:01 |
| Xiph | I've tried both as nemo and root | 19:01 |
| Mikaela | or at least Jolla Care told me to run it once to see if I was missing any packages | 19:01 |
| Mikaela | :( | 19:01 |
| TemeV | Then you have something really wrong there | 19:01 |
| Xiph | can it be because I removed aptoid folder? | 19:01 |
| Xiph | in home directory | 19:02 |
| Xiph | I uninstalled it first and then removed the folder | 19:02 |
| TemeV | no, it shouldn't cause that (I think) | 19:02 |
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| TemeV | Xiph: pkcon search name sailfish-version | 19:13 |
| TemeV | what does that say? | 19:13 |
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| pdanek | Hello | 19:46 |
| pdanek | VOIP/SIP should be integrated into Jolla caller soon, right? | 19:46 |
| pdanek | Which VOIP/SIP service would you recommend if I want to start using it already? (with Android app) and later configure in Jolla dialer? | 19:46 |
| pdanek | I suppose Skype and Viber outcall won't be supported. | 19:47 |
| Mikaela | linphone | 19:47 |
| Nicd- | soon™ | 19:47 |
| Mikaela | night | 19:48 |
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| Xiph | TemeV: Available sailfish-version-1.1.4-10.27.29.jolla.noarch SailfishOS 1.1.4.29 (release) | 20:07 |
| Xiph | Available sailfish-version-doc-1.1.4-10.27.29.jolla.noarch SailfishOS 1.1.4.29 (release) | 20:07 |
| TemeV | Xiph: so for some reason it is not installed. Try to install it | 20:08 |
| TemeV | (btw, I don't give any guarantee for my instructions) :p | 20:09 |
| TemeV | pkcon install sailfish-version | 20:09 |
| Xiph | hmm | 20:09 |
| Xiph | is that really latest version? | 20:10 |
| Xiph | isn't it 1.1.6.27 | 20:10 |
| TemeV | nope, but that's the version you need | 20:10 |
| TemeV | (I guess) | 20:10 |
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| TemeV | when you do version --dup you'll get 1.1.6 of that package too | 20:11 |
| Xiph | well, I suppose have to confirm with Jolla care first | 20:11 |
| Xiph | don't wanna brick it :/ | 20:12 |
| Xiph | thanks for your time though | 20:12 |
| TemeV | You won't brick it, there is always recovery | 20:12 |
| TemeV | might lose data though if you need to factory reset | 20:12 |
| pdanek | Jolla warranty is 1 year or 2 years? | 20:12 |
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| TemeV | Xiph: but yes, care is of course the right way to go :) | 20:13 |
| Xiph | btw, if I go to Settings->About product | 20:14 |
| TemeV | I'm just usually too unpatient to ask for help the official way :) | 20:14 |
| Xiph | it says Sailfish OS: Unknown version | 20:14 |
| pdanek | Mikaela: Linphone doesn't seem to provide outcall service, I need SIP/VOIP which can call external phone numbers around the world, like Skype or Viber outcall. | 20:14 |
| TemeV | Xiph: propably because you did ssu release 1.1.6.27 | 20:15 |
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| Xiph | yes, probably | 20:16 |
| Xiph | damn it... | 20:16 |
| TemeV | but my guess is if you install back sailfish-version and then do version --dup you'll get you update | 20:16 |
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| Xiph | TemeV: I changed back to 1.1.4.29 and installed sailfish-version as you said | 20:20 |
| Xiph | ran version --dup | 20:21 |
| Xiph | and now it seems to work | 20:21 |
| Xiph | got notification about new release and latest apps in store | 20:21 |
| Xiph | thanks a bunch | 20:21 |
| TemeV | great. Now the interesting question is, how did that package disappear in the first place... :) | 20:21 |
| Xiph | yes, that is strange | 20:22 |
| Xiph | I didn't even know about it. so I don't think I could have uninstalled it by misstake | 20:23 |
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| mondial | if you do a factory reset do you need to upgrade to the latest in steps or can you force directly to the latest? | 21:06 |
| TemeV | mondial: there is step or two on the way | 21:07 |
| TemeV | Iirc from 1.0.4 you can update straight to the latest | 21:08 |
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| mondial | so from 1.0.4+ i can do an "ssu re 1.1.6.27 && version --dup" ? | 21:10 |
| TemeV | Maybe. Using the gui is the safe choise, it will use the correct short cuts | 21:11 |
| TemeV | But if you really want to upgrade via terminal, google first how it should go | 21:12 |
| mondial | @TemeV tnx for the hint... | 21:14 |
| TemeV | np | 21:14 |
| mondial | i'll stick with the gui | 21:15 |
| chem|st | mondial: gui is the safe way, and do not install or do anything else but upgrade first | 21:15 |
| mondial | also fun to see the changes again between releases | 21:16 |
| mondial | :-) | 21:17 |
| mondial | i got a tar of my home/nemo dir that a made during release 1.1.4.29 should i restore to this one first to restore it? | 21:18 |
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| TemeV | mondial: that is a bit more difficult question... | 21:22 |
| mondial | that's why i ask here ;-) | 21:23 |
| TemeV | I would at least remove all that "looks like a system stuff" from the backup | 21:23 |
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| TemeV | Though, you can't lose much by trying | 21:24 |
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| TemeV | worst case is you do another factory reset | 21:24 |
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| mondial | indeed @TemeV... i hope all goes well ... I need more sleep and less coffee :-p | 21:26 |
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| chem|st | mondial: bad idea to just revert to last used home (own experience) - you can overwrite some settings and stuff but funny or not so funny things may happen when you do it on a live system as it will probably overwrite already running (in IO state) db-files an what not... | 22:41 |
| mondial | jep i put my old nemo file next to the new one and will move only the things i need | 22:42 |
| chem|st | get familiar with what is what in your tar file and decide step by step what to recover and maybe think about doing it from recovery-shell instead of live system | 22:43 |
| chem|st | and it is a good idea to do that on the same version as you have done the tar from | 22:43 |
| mondial | yes just copied the old dir via netcat on recovery-shell to speed things up | 22:44 |
| mondial | ssh over the wifi takes 4ever... | 22:45 |
| mondial | the .vault dir are only the files from the jolla backup utility? | 22:46 |
| mondial | would it also be best to install all apps firts before i restore my home? | 22:50 |
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