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| arvut | good morning sailers! | 06:34 |
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| chriadam | hello arvut | 06:35 |
| * lpotter rows more | 06:36 | |
| birdzhang1 | morning | 06:36 |
| tiwake | woo, I just trimmed back my beard | 06:37 |
| tiwake | so its a coherent style now | 06:37 |
| arvut | tiwake: nothing like a very clean shave after a few cold showers and a terrifyingly hot bath | 06:37 |
| tiwake | neh, not a clean shave | 06:37 |
| arvut | its so smooooooth | 06:37 |
| tiwake | instead of looking like a cross between wolverine and a fluff-a-saurus, its... donno what style it would be called, but its nice | 06:39 |
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| Yaniel | fluff-a-saurus eh.. :D | 07:00 |
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| lainwir3d | "#Jolla announces Sailfish Africa - the #SailfishOS mobile ecosystem for Africa. Announcement: http://bit.ly/1AzB2gj ." | 08:02 |
| urs | heh. Just as I moved away from south africa. | 08:06 |
| * phlixi is not sure whether he likes coop with governments | 08:07 | |
| Stskeeps | just remember that the model is a little different in BRICS countries about how to support things than western world | 08:08 |
| phlixi | thats the "not sure" :-) | 08:09 |
| phlixi | that's | 08:09 |
| phlixi | sorry :-D | 08:09 |
| Stskeeps | this is from the russian point of view, "@ IRiazantsev No country and no one company should not be the dominant rights to the "mobile OS # BRICS . " Result- 3-5 years" | 08:10 |
| Stskeeps | ie supporting independence | 08:10 |
| phlixi | isnt that a "no" to much? | 08:10 |
| phlixi | no one should not be dominant? | 08:11 |
| urs | In south africa, it is probably more "You give us money, we give you money, everybody smiles for the camera, and after some months the money will magically have vanished" | 08:11 |
| Stskeeps | phlixi: google translate | 08:12 |
| phlixi | :) | 08:12 |
| phlixi | now it makes sense :D | 08:12 |
| Stskeeps | urs: and in europe it's "here's a IT project for tender, let's go 30 times over budget and in the end, scrap the entire thing".. | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | usually involving government money :) | 08:15 |
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| birdzhang1 | i'm compiling golang on jolla | 08:29 |
| birdzhang1 | look this:https://github.com/fogleman/nes | 08:31 |
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| gabriel9|work | sometimes my screen becomes unresponsive | 08:42 |
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| chem|st | gabriel9|work: probably swapping | 09:09 |
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| chem|st | phlixi: even though double negative in english is more negative instead of -1*-1=1 it is -1-1=-2 | 09:11 |
| chem|st | but you usually do not use that in writing | 09:12 |
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| ggabriel | chem|st: debatable... as you say, you don't use double negative to mean negative in literature or properly prepared speeches. a well spoken person won't use it either. sadly, the latter is the minority though and you usually understand from context. i'd argue tha tin general double negatives shouldn't be used anywhere, except in poetry ;) | 09:20 |
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| gabriel9|work | chem|st and after that part of the screen is unresponsive | 10:42 |
| temmi_moo | does rap count as poetry? | 10:42 |
| gabriel9|work | just bottom part | 10:42 |
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| chem|st | kimmoli: bottom part display unresponsive is your domain right?! ;)^^ | 11:23 |
| chem|st | gabriel9: I know of issues where people were unable to swipe from bottom or use home-screen-launcher | 11:24 |
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| chem|st | temmi_moo: little OT here but in general all music with text is poetry | 11:25 |
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| gabriel9 | sometimes it fixes itself | 11:25 |
| gabriel9 | duno should i reopent this: https://together.jolla.com/question/55359/cant-access-notifications/ | 11:26 |
| kimmoli | chem|st: my domain? | 11:27 |
| chem|st | area of expertise | 11:27 |
| chem|st | gabriel9: sure, reopen | 11:27 |
| temmi_moo | area of udp/53 | 11:28 |
| chem|st | gabriel9: and maybe make it a wiki and give it a new title | 11:28 |
| kimmoli | 1m radius circle around me | 11:28 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: iirc you had that issue so I thought you might have an idea | 11:29 |
| kimmoli | no, i did not had that. i know someone who has/had | 11:29 |
| kimmoli | my advice, check with evdev_trace -t and if no input -> contact care | 11:30 |
| kimmoli | mce-tools is the package providing evdev_trace | 11:31 |
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| taaeem | Sailfish on a YotaPhone http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2015/05/news-sailfish-os-2-will-be-more-open.html Very Nice | 11:42 |
| Nicd- | openness is good :) | 11:43 |
| politie1 | rather be able to install it on my tablet | 11:44 |
| locusf | I guess its a classified port though :p | 11:44 |
| locusf | until further notice | 11:44 |
| locusf | politie1: you could | 11:44 |
| locusf | already | 11:45 |
| politie1 | if its cyanogen capable right? | 11:45 |
| locusf | yep | 11:45 |
| gabriel9 | srsly Yota :) | 11:45 |
| gabriel9 | just need to get one :) | 11:45 |
| locusf | oh well | 11:45 |
| politie1 | yota is only 600 bucks right | 11:46 |
| locusf | if you're willing to port patches to eg. aosp then it might be different | 11:46 |
| ggabriel | only? | 11:46 |
| politie1 | 😂 | 11:46 |
| locusf | wot lol | 11:46 |
| Yaniel | with yota more open sailfishos will be | 11:46 |
| gabriel9 | srsly that expensive? | 11:46 |
| gabriel9 | :D | 11:46 |
| Yaniel | or something | 11:46 |
| gabriel9 | i can buy nice PC for that kind of money | 11:46 |
| politie1 | yea | 11:46 |
| Yaniel | many rpi2's | 11:47 |
| Yaniel | which AFAIK are very open already | 11:47 |
| dirkvl | love they have good contact with yota | 11:47 |
| dirkvl | one of the few non-boring phones | 11:48 |
| dirkvl | http://www.theverge.com/2015/5/27/8666861/smartphone-design-stagnation | 11:48 |
| sakustar | instantly hate that blogspot page, no zoom | 11:49 |
| sakustar | who makes those ;_; | 11:49 |
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| sakustar | arrows from both directions and when i realize my error im already headed for some random stuff i dont want to see | 11:50 |
| dirkvl | tl;dr: phone are freaking boring, last awesome phone was the N9, everything since that sucks balls | 11:52 |
| locusf | dirkvl: what about Jolla :) | 11:52 |
| dirkvl | no mentionm | 11:52 |
| TemeV | hardware wise Jolla is quite boring | 11:53 |
| dirkvl | y | 11:53 |
| dirkvl | except for toh | 11:53 |
| gabriel9 | Will we ever see anything as fresh and new as the Nokia N9 again? :) | 11:54 |
| TemeV | yeah, but until you ship my tohkbd that is also quite boring feature :) | 11:54 |
| dirkvl | ha true | 11:54 |
| dirkvl | working on it | 11:54 |
| dirkvl | SOONtm | 11:54 |
| TemeV | ok, I've also considered tohiri, but the sensor is so expensive | 11:54 |
| ggabriel | thatyotaphone is a bit low on battery | 11:54 |
| ggabriel | at least the android version | 11:54 |
| dirkvl | you mean the predatoh | 11:55 |
| dirkvl | just needs laserbeam | 11:55 |
| Nicd- | TOH is boring for regular customers since no 3rd party is making TOHs that actually have features | 11:55 |
| dirkvl | :O | 11:55 |
| TemeV | dirkvl: with the triangle laser thingy, it would be really cool :D | 11:55 |
| Nicd- | by 3rd party I mean a company | 11:55 |
| Nicd- | not hobbyists | 11:55 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: true, but regular customers will be so jealous to see my tohkbd... | 11:55 |
| ggabriel | my favourite bit will be "where can i get one?" "you can't get one" :P | 11:56 |
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| Nicd- | sadly that's not their favourite bit :P | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | and won't make anyone want a jolla | 11:57 |
| locusf | I hate to comtemplate a new phone but then I always remember the tohkbd :) | 11:58 |
| pp | :-) | 11:58 |
| politie | only reason i learned about the jolla is the tohkbd | 11:59 |
| pp | I'm suspecting my phone is close to EOL but since I have a tohkbd coming I'll just continue using it or get a new one :-) | 11:59 |
| pp | both technologically and the fact it has a cracked screen :-) (more the latter) | 12:00 |
| sakustar | are they still making more phones? | 12:00 |
| sakustar | or should we stockpile em if they break before the keyboard does ;) | 12:00 |
| ggabriel | pp: yeah, join the cracked screen club | 12:00 |
| ggabriel | sakustar: you can buy now at shop.jolla.com | 12:00 |
| pp | one for 249e in verkkokauppa! | 12:01 |
| sakustar | yes i can buy now | 12:01 |
| ggabriel | pp: you could get it for 200 ;) | 12:01 |
| sakustar | but can i buy one in a year or two | 12:01 |
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| ggabriel | sakustar: well, who knows anything about the future? will you be able to buy an iphone in a year or two? probably not | 12:01 |
| ggabriel | but maybe they survive that long | 12:02 |
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| politie | just get an iphone | 12:05 |
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| greenit | hi, do you have any news when sailfish OS 2.0 releases and if it releases for the Jolla mobilephone too? | 12:08 |
| ggabriel | no news | 12:08 |
| Nicd- | no news when but it will be released for the phone | 12:08 |
| ggabriel | and it will release for the phone | 12:08 |
| Nicd- | the same OS will run in the phone and in the tablet | 12:08 |
| greenit | ok, thanks :) | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | http://techcrunch.com/2015/05/28/jolla-pushes-brics-partnerships-to-target-android-in-emerging-markets/ | 12:09 |
| taaeem | many videos on youtube showing sailfish 2.0 on phone | 12:09 |
| urs | but it doesn't really quite seem production ready yet | 12:09 |
| Stskeeps | those were in MWC | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | in feb | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:10 |
| urs | last time I saw it, things were still crashing left and right | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | code is already ancient :) | 12:10 |
| Nicd- | urs: when was the last time? | 12:10 |
| urs | about a month ago. | 12:10 |
| Sail0r | GO SailfishOS GO http://www.patentlymobile.com/2015/05/samsung-invents-a-phablet-dock-for-a-next-gen-dual-os-notebook.html | 12:10 |
| politie | thats nice | 12:11 |
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| Tegu | so, kind of asus padphone? | 12:14 |
| Tegu | ah yea, gotta read more | 12:14 |
| Tegu | dual-os :P | 12:14 |
| Sail0r | which could be one OS with SFOs | 12:14 |
| Tegu | yea | 12:15 |
| taaeem | Would be nice so you have Linux on phone as Sailfish OS and then a desktop enviroment as laptop OS... | 12:17 |
| taaeem | Reminds me of Canonicals convergence | 12:18 |
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| greenit | is there any geo-caching app for sailfish os? | 12:19 |
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| Nicd- | greenit: c:geo works fine | 12:22 |
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| greenit | Nicd-: but that's no native app, or is it? It would've been the app i would install if there was no native app | 12:23 |
| Nicd- | I don't know of any native apps | 12:26 |
| dirkvl | stskeeps: quite a dense article! | 12:32 |
| Stskeeps | dirkvl: bottom's most interesting | 12:33 |
| dirkvl | i always find the bottom the most interesting | 12:33 |
| dirkvl | #giggety | 12:33 |
| dirkvl | about payments? | 12:34 |
| Stskeeps | no, oss | 12:35 |
| SfietKonstantinW | the part about android forks is nice | 12:35 |
| SfietKonstantinW | interesting | 12:35 |
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| Tofe | Yes, and the project overview comes with a "very soon" statement :) | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | it wouldn't be Jolla if it didn't. | 12:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:47 |
| SfietKonstantinW | So ValveBlizzard-ish | 12:49 |
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| tadzik | greenit: I'm working on one, but only mentally so far :) | 12:55 |
| greenit | tadzik: good to know. :) | 12:56 |
| tadzik | And c:geo worked so bad for me recently that I switched to the official one | 12:56 |
| tadzik | Which works okay once you install all the google play services BS | 12:58 |
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| baum | uhm (stupid) question: wich repo do i have to activate to install wget in the merSDK? | 14:45 |
| ggabriel | mer-tools i think | 14:47 |
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| baum | ggabriel: thanks | 14:57 |
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| Kabouik | Folks, I'm trying to format my µSD using that: https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/ because since a factory reset, I noticed that one of my folders in the µSD is not responding. At all. Can't explore it, delete it, either from Jolla or SFTP | 15:21 |
| Kabouik | Problem is I can't umount /dev/mmcblk1, it says that this very folder is busy. | 15:21 |
| Kabouik | Alien service is stopped | 15:22 |
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| falfa | Good, the flamethrower worked? | 15:35 |
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| baum | Kabouik: did you try to force the unmount? "umount -f /dev/mmcblk1" | 15:47 |
| Kabouik | I removed the SD card, stopped again the Alien service, and could umount it | 15:47 |
| Kabouik | But a problem persists and I'm trying to find a solution on the Internt just currently... | 15:47 |
| Kabouik | I did the format step in the TJC guide, remounted the card, but the wrong folder is still here | 15:48 |
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| Kabouik | When I "ls *" in /media/sdcard", the folder is listed. If I try to fo into it, or delete it, then I get a "File or directory does not exist" | 15:48 |
| Kabouik | Even "ls -l" says the dir does not exist, yet it lists it just after this warning... And the permissions are like: "d????? ?? ? ?? ??" | 15:49 |
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| panda__ | hello folks | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so, google IO today | 16:27 |
| SfietKonstantinW | last year was disappointing though | 16:27 |
| Sail0r | Don't be evil | 16:28 |
| panda__ | by chance anyone is aware of a tutorial on installing cmake in the merSDK? | 16:28 |
| r0kk3rz | well lollipop was the big ticket item | 16:28 |
| SfietKonstantinW | panda__: rather easy if you know how to ssh in your merSDK | 16:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or easier: go on the vm of merSDK | 16:29 |
| panda__ | SfietKonstantinW, i already sshed into it, the question is what now? | 16:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | well, maybe ssh is better: ssh into your merSDK (not emulator) | 16:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | panda__: as root ? | 16:29 |
| panda__ | yes | 16:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | pkcon install cmake :) | 16:29 |
| panda__ | SfietKonstantinW, -bash: pkcon: command not found | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | zypper in cmake | 16:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | you can also use the mersdk panel of your qtcreator | 16:30 |
| panda__ | zypper in cmake - means? | 16:31 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | panda__: run "zypper install cmake" | 16:31 |
| r0kk3rz | zypper (package manager) in (install) cmake (name of package | 16:31 |
| panda__ | SfietKonstantinW, r0kk3rz, thanks - that did the trick | 16:33 |
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| panda__ | which repo does zypper use? | 16:37 |
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| Sail0r | zypper lr | 16:38 |
| Sail0r | zypper lr (list repos) | 16:38 |
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| panda__ | Sail0r, thanks | 16:42 |
| Sail0r | np | 16:42 |
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| flux | man, I moved the microsd to a PC for transferring some media to the Jolla, and it's great how fast it can be :-). usually I just rsync it in.. | 18:45 |
| flux | what is the best speed achievable without doing that? it's now doing ~20M/s | 18:45 |
| Yaniel | with rsync I usually get around 10-15M/s over wlan | 18:46 |
| Yaniel | but my card is specced for 60M/s or so | 18:46 |
| Yaniel | IIRC | 18:47 |
| flux | I suppose I should upgrade my ol' faithful wrt54gl then :) | 18:47 |
| flux | local cache also helps a lot when just cding to directories and copying stuff.. rsync says now 58M/s for a 2GB copy, but I'm betting it's still doing it | 18:49 |
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| r0kk3rz | jolla's getting some pretty decent press out of this whole russia thing | 19:19 |
| r0kk3rz | although the revenue sharing with ecommerce vendors is an interesting model | 19:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | but a logical next step from taking a cut from app sales and in-app purchases i suppose | 19:22 |
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