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| birdzhang1 | hello | 07:33 |
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| birdzhang1 | i have a question | 07:34 |
| birdzhang1 | my application can only run on console model and sdk model | 07:34 |
| birdzhang1 | when i open it by click the desktop icon , it stuck and exit | 07:34 |
| birdzhang1 | how to debug or fix it | 07:35 |
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| coderus | birdzhang1: check your desktop file and main cpp file | 07:49 |
| coderus | or maybe your phone just need a reboot | 07:49 |
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| birdzhang1 | coderus:thanks,jolla just need a reboot ;) | 08:02 |
| birdzhang1 | WTF | 08:03 |
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| kimmoli | propably your app crashed and process zombied, if it happens again, check with ps | 08:15 |
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| birdzhang1 | kimmoli: it runs Ok now ,just need a reboot :cryingjoy: | 08:23 |
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| Sail0r | does the Jolla kernel have problems with the leap second? | 08:43 |
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| Jope | time to code a little leap second visualizer tool and set the time to a bit before a leap second happens, then observe ;-) | 08:48 |
| Sail0r | hehe | 08:49 |
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| birdzhang1 | hehe? are you from China? ;) | 08:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | birdzhang1: hello :) | 08:55 |
| birdzhang1 | hellp | 08:55 |
| birdzhang1 | hello | 08:55 |
| stephg | hey SfietKonstantinW which continent are you in today ;) | 08:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | france now :) | 08:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | birdzhang1: are you in china now ? | 08:56 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it is really early for you | 08:56 |
| birdzhang1 | yes | 08:56 |
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| coderus | SfietKonstantinW: why? china is on the different side. early for france, but evening in china :D | 08:58 |
| birdzhang1 | :cryingjoy: | 08:58 |
| birdzhang1 | it's 5:00 pm | 09:00 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | arf | 09:00 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I have done in the other way round | 09:00 |
| SfietKonstantinW | forgot that it is later in china | 09:00 |
| SfietKonstantinW | when I was in china in the morning, everybody was sleeping here | 09:01 |
| birdzhang1 | You been to China? | 09:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | birdzhang1: yep, last 3 weeks :) | 09:02 |
| birdzhang1 | which city | 09:02 |
| * Stskeeps has been to china on a couple of occasions | 09:02 | |
| SfietKonstantinW | I do speak chinese | 09:02 |
| SfietKonstantinW | Beijing | 09:02 |
| birdzhang1 | wow | 09:02 |
| coderus | SfietKonstantinW: hangover occasions? :D | 09:03 |
| coderus | oh | 09:03 |
| coderus | Stskeeps i mean :D | 09:03 |
| birdzhang1 | it's awesome | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: i don't think i've been hungover in china so far | 09:03 |
| Stskeeps | just a bit of food poisoning at one point | 09:04 |
| birdzhang1 | :) | 09:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 09:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah, food poisoning ... | 09:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | birdzhang1: Me and gf had like the only pair of jollas around | 09:04 |
| SfietKonstantinW | in a sea of iPhone 6(+), and Xiaomi-samsung-huawei-lenovo androids | 09:05 |
| birdzhang1 | yes... :( | 09:05 |
| birdzhang1 | about only 200 people use jolla | 09:06 |
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| birdzhang1 | jolla has not yet landed in China | 09:08 |
| birdzhang1 | just Hongkong :) | 09:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | i wonder how jolla can work in china though | 09:09 |
| birdzhang1 | :( | 09:09 |
| birdzhang1 | in china , we mostly used apps are wechat,QQ,weibo,taobao,etc... | 09:10 |
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| birdzhang1 | only weibo open it's api | 09:11 |
| birdzhang1 | i feel sad :( | 09:11 |
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| birdzhang1 | also sad for GFW... a firewall to filter sites,like google,facebook,twtter ... :( | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | on the plus side, no life dependency on google | 09:23 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:23 |
| TMavica | Jolla have sold in China in Taobao | 09:24 |
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| birdzhang1 | yeah | 09:25 |
| birdzhang1 | but few people know who is Jolla | 09:27 |
| TMavica | There is some china forum of Jolla | 09:29 |
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| birdzhang1 | the most popular is jolla tieba | 09:30 |
| TMavica | Ya | 09:32 |
| TMavica | I have read it | 09:32 |
| birdzhang1 | wow | 09:33 |
| TMavica | I am waiting battery sell | 09:38 |
| ggabriel | i'm curious (from an academic pov) as to what is stopping jolla from selling batteries constantly. batch size too big to risk stocking? admin overhead? | 09:40 |
| TMavica | birdzhang1: i saw ur name there | 09:41 |
| birdzhang1 | TMavica: you also from China ? | 09:42 |
| TMavica | No | 09:43 |
| TMavica | Hong Kong | 09:43 |
| birdzhang1 | yeah,i alway publish my app to jolla tieba | 09:43 |
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| birdzhang1 | :) | 09:43 |
| TMavica | I saw yours apps, but no use for me | 09:44 |
| TMavica | I have used tieba | 09:44 |
| birdzhang1 | yes,i write apps for me ,haha | 09:45 |
| TMavica | I heard there is battery selling before, but until now, no any news of it | 09:46 |
| ggabriel | TMavica: there was a battery sale | 09:46 |
| ggabriel | it sold out | 09:46 |
| TMavica | Also can buy stella TOH without buying whole device | 09:46 |
| TMavica | ggabriel: i mean in taobao, not from shop Jolla | 09:46 |
| ggabriel | TMavica: i didn't know that you could sell official batteries if they didn't come from the jolla store | 09:47 |
| ggabriel | fwiw, at least one person makes his own batteries, that's always possible :) | 09:47 |
| TMavica | China can do that possible, LOL | 09:48 |
| ggabriel | TMavica: clearly not :) | 09:48 |
| TMavica | May not | 09:49 |
| birdzhang1 | We have an ability called "Shanzhai",lol | 09:49 |
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| ggabriel | to clarify: there aren't any batteries available from china, so not | 09:49 |
| ggabriel | similar case with replacement screen | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | i guess china will do whatever yields enough money | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | and you can replace china with any other country really | 09:50 |
| ggabriel | this is why i'm curious as to what the challenges with selling batteries are | 09:50 |
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| TMavica | I heard the Jolla device sell in taobao is officially, but why Jolla dont have any announcement? | 09:52 |
| ggabriel | humility? :) | 09:55 |
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| birdzhang1 | june is comming | 09:57 |
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| birdzhang1 | sailfish os 2.0 may better | 09:58 |
| Morpog_work | while we wait for 1.1.5.x it's interesting to see that 1.1.6 and even 1.1.7 is already branched | 09:58 |
| chem|st | Morpog_work: branching is 2 months before a release | 09:59 |
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| birdzhang1 | lol | 10:00 |
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| pp | could be some special shipping issues with batteries (vs. plastic covers) | 10:23 |
| pp | and the fact they're probably more expensive to manufacture | 10:23 |
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| greenit | hi, i found this thread regarding the random reboots and shutdowns: https://together.jolla.com/question/37480/wiki-battery-random-reboots-shutdowns-cause-impedance-problem-and-solution/ however, _where_ exactly do i have to put the paper/whatever ? with "bottom" i assume the opposite site of the contacts. and probably exactly on the same place as the contacts are? | 10:28 |
| kimmoli | opposite edge of contacts | 10:29 |
| kimmoli | so, assumed correctly | 10:30 |
| greenit | ok, and on the same place (well, but other edge) as the contacts are? | 10:30 |
| pp | yep, wonder if there's a picture of the official fix | 10:32 |
| pp | small piece of black tape | 10:32 |
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| TemeV | greenit: the point is to have the battery more tightly against the contacts, I think you can guess where the paper acchieves that goal best :) | 10:33 |
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| pp | there's the "hole" under the battery, 5mm wide piece of black tape starting 3mm left of the hole :P | 10:33 |
| pp | anything approximating that will do the trick | 10:33 |
| pp | (and clean the contacts with a suitable substance while you're at it) | 10:34 |
| greenit | kimmoli: pp TemeV thanks for the help :) | 10:36 |
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| Joonaa | i find this a bit hard to believe, but i think the speaker on my jolla died.. | 10:50 |
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| kimmoli | Joonaa: speaker is connected with pogopins, so propably connection issues. workaround for me was playing music (sexpistols worked) and squeezing phone lower end. | 10:54 |
| kimmoli | but it re-appeared in few weeks, had to get it replaced in service | 10:55 |
| Joonaa | okay, let me test that | 10:55 |
| Joonaa | wow it actually did work | 10:56 |
| Joonaa | well, ill contact support either way | 10:56 |
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| birdzhang1 | off work :) | 11:04 |
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| Nicd- | anyone else's aptoide broken? | 12:05 |
| Nicd- | it always says "sdcard full" when I start it. but afaik my disks or btrfs aren | 12:06 |
| Nicd- | aren't full* | 12:06 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: mine starts ok | 12:06 |
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| Nicd- | gettings tons of: alien.sh: ... E ImageLoader: java.io.FileNotFoundException: /home/nemo/android_storage/.aptoide/.../...png.tmp: open failed: EACCES (Permission denied) | 12:13 |
| Nicd- | when I start aptoide | 12:13 |
| TemeV | restart alien dalvik maybe? | 12:15 |
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| Nicd- | no change | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | can't tell what my perms are in that directory atm i'm afraid :( | 12:17 |
| Nicd- | mine are 'root nemo rwxrwxr-x' for everything | 12:17 |
| Nicd- | maybe I'll just delete the directory | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | or move it ;) | 12:18 |
| Nicd- | yeah | 12:18 |
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| Nicd- | nope :( | 12:20 |
| Nicd- | started but couldn't download. restarted and now it says "No memory. You don't have enough space on your SDcard." again | 12:20 |
| TemeV | Other android apps still work? | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | download an application you mean? | 12:21 |
| Nicd- | ggabriel: download or update an app from aptoide | 12:22 |
| Nicd- | c:geo works just fine | 12:22 |
| ggabriel | fwiw, i haven't tried that | 12:22 |
| Nicd- | so does my culture/lunch payment card app | 12:22 |
| TemeV | let's see I'll try updating a couple of apps | 12:23 |
| TemeV | Here was updated nicely from aptoide | 12:24 |
| TemeV | And telegram also | 12:25 |
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| Joonaa | wow, dark patterns, jolla gives me the connect to internet popup when i try to close a program, so i end up enabling mobile data | 12:37 |
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| flux | I generated a VCF file from the contact info at job, with pictures, and People is taking its sweet time for importing it - only 500kB file, though | 13:08 |
| flux | and it's not consuming _any_ CPU | 13:09 |
| flux | broken? | 13:09 |
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| flux | does the same for a file with just one entry.. | 13:12 |
| coderus | flux:for me it freezing sometimes | 13:12 |
| coderus | i need to kill process and try again and again until success :D | 13:13 |
| flux | which process? | 13:13 |
| flux | I replaced it with a version that doesn't come with a picture and it still just stalls | 13:13 |
| flux | ..of course it doesn't come with export so I could see what is Jolla's view on the format :) | 13:14 |
| flux | does anyone have an example of a VCF that Jolla has accepted? | 13:14 |
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| flux | ok, it accepted one after I killed jolla-contacts :) | 13:18 |
| flux | this time it atleast start to consume CPU for the whole batch :) | 13:18 |
| flux | cool, it worked! thanks coderus :) | 13:18 |
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| flux | also the code I used encoded the names with ISO-8859-15 (and indicated so in the produced data), it seems the Jolla import failed to take note.. somehow the "ä"s are gone. | 13:23 |
| Yaniel | I had no problems exporting contacts from osx addressbook to my jolla | 13:25 |
| Yaniel | it probably used utf-8 though | 13:26 |
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| flux | I think I used that script at 2010, so for N9 I guess, which apparently didn't work with utf-8 | 13:47 |
| flux | but I guess now I would need to remove that converting etc.. | 13:48 |
| Yaniel | just run the vcf through iconv | 13:48 |
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| flux | yes, but I imported already | 13:50 |
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| flux | yaniel, also it's not enough, it actually tells the character set in the name fields.. | 13:51 |
| flux | but it would be simple to fix | 13:51 |
| ggabriel | flux: delete and start again? :P | 13:51 |
| flux | delete all contacts? | 13:51 |
| ggabriel | yeah | 13:52 |
| ggabriel | boom | 13:52 |
| flux | I have other contacts there that don't come from the vcf :) | 13:52 |
| ggabriel | oh, so that's a problem then | 13:52 |
| SfietKonstantinW | flux: export to vcf and then run some script to sanitize everyhting | 13:52 |
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| flux | sfietkonstantinw, ..it has vcf export? | 13:52 |
| ggabriel | yeah | 13:53 |
| flux | the solution is to just fix the few names with missing äs | 13:53 |
| flux | yes, manually, I know it sounds boring.. ;) | 13:53 |
| ggabriel | just have the machine do it for you | 13:53 |
| ggabriel | ...while you can | 13:53 |
| SfietKonstantinW | vcardimporter can export too | 13:54 |
| SfietKonstantinW | despite the name :P | 13:54 |
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| locusf | vcardconverter | 14:14 |
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| krnlyng | where does sailfish browser store the history? and where does the notes app store notes? my browser doesn't show any history and my notes app cannot create new notes :| | 16:30 |
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| coderus | krnlyng: browser keeping stuff in ~/.mozilla/mozembed | 16:32 |
| coderus | and no idea about notes :( | 16:32 |
| krnlyng | coderus: thanks | 16:32 |
| Acce | krnlyng: .local/share/jolla-notes/QML/OfflineStorage/Databases/*.sqlite | 16:34 |
| Acce | for notes | 16:34 |
| krnlyng | thanks | 16:35 |
| r0kk3rz | probably worth doing a btrfs balance before looking too deeply at anything else | 16:36 |
| the_mgt | hooray for btrfs | 16:37 |
| krnlyng | i think i ran that a while ago but it didn't balance much, i am gonna try again | 16:37 |
| r0kk3rz | may not be btrfs | 16:38 |
| r0kk3rz | but its an easy thing to check | 16:38 |
| the_mgt | I rather seldomly look into this chat windows, but in 80% of all cases, somebody talks about balancing btrfs | 16:38 |
| r0kk3rz | its the 'turn it off and on again' of the jolla | 16:38 |
| r0kk3rz | that and 'clean the battery contacts' | 16:38 |
| krnlyng | :) yeah i have the clean the battery contacts problem too | 16:39 |
| the_mgt | I did none of the above yet | 16:39 |
| the_mgt | but I have a sticky note wrenched firmly between case and battery | 16:39 |
| krnlyng | and i also put paper below it just to be sure | 16:39 |
| r0kk3rz | the_mgt: well now the jolla does the btrfs thing for you | 16:39 |
| the_mgt | r0kk3rz: yeah, read about that | 16:40 |
| krnlyng | the_mgt: i think your supposed to put it below the battery so its slightly pushed up (eg on the opposite side of the contacts) | 16:43 |
| the_mgt | krnlyng: yep, did that a while ago | 16:44 |
| krnlyng | okay then i misinterpreted what you said :D | 16:45 |
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| the_mgt | krnlyng: my description was rather bad | 16:50 |
| the_mgt | the sticky note is wrapped, origami style. and it is a sticky note, because it doesnt move around when you reattach the battery | 16:51 |
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