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| birdzhang | have you guys upgraded to 1.1.6 ? | 03:39 |
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| jaacoppi | no | 04:14 |
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| zhxt | birdzhang, 1.1.6 is out? | 04:38 |
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| birdzhang | yes,in terminal | 04:47 |
| birdzhang | ssu re 1.1.6.17 | 04:48 |
| birdzhang | ssu ur | 04:48 |
| birdzhang | Â version --dup | 04:48 |
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| zhxt | birdzhang, thx good to know. | 04:51 |
| Yaniel | that means no, it is not out | 04:52 |
| zhxt | oh, yes, will try to build one. :) | 04:55 |
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| zhxt | for n4 :P | 04:57 |
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| TMavica | U cant SSH in 1.1.6.17 | 06:01 |
| TMavica | But can solve it urself | 06:02 |
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| gabriel9 | https://www.theverge.com/2015/5/19/8624901/russia-mobile-os-sailfish-jolla-tizen | 10:31 |
| gabriel9 | maybe i am late, but still nice read | 10:31 |
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| kimmoli | someone did ask about toh gpio control for powerTOH or such, now he asks in TMO PM it, seems to be new used with 0 posts, and i can't send him a PM. meh. | 12:49 |
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| chem|st | kimmoli: 0 posts cannot send you PMs... and if you can send him PMs depends on their settings not TMOs | 12:56 |
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| kimmoli | Posts: 0 | Thanked: 0 times | Joined on May 2015 ... seems to be able to send me | 12:57 |
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| chem|st | kimmoli: mini... | 12:57 |
| chem|st | ? | 12:57 |
| kimmoli | y | 12:58 |
| kimmoli | has chosen not to receive private messages or may not be allowed to receive private messages. Therefore you may not send your message to him/her. | 12:58 |
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| chem|st | kimmoli: he complains about being unable to access PM system... | 12:59 |
| kimmoli | aha | 13:00 |
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| kimmoli | i was just wondering where he did ask this first time... cant find anything from irssi logs | 13:00 |
| chem|st | and why should he be able to receive PMs if he is not able to send any | 13:00 |
| kimmoli | but he sent me a PM ... how that is possible then.. | 13:00 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: did he send you a mail or a PM? | 13:02 |
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| chem|st | he has no PM statistic so unless he is voodoo-master I do not know how to send you PMs with a system that does not know about it... | 13:03 |
| kimmoli | PM, if i read it in TMO, Private messages inbox | 13:03 |
| kimmoli | voodoo then | 13:03 |
| chem|st | minitreintje? | 13:04 |
| chem|st | I need a nickname | 13:04 |
| chem|st | or secondary account? | 13:04 |
| kimmoli | yes | 13:04 |
| chem|st | did never send messages | 13:05 |
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| narchie | jolla russian when | 13:26 |
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| kimmoli | #jollarussia ? | 13:28 |
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| Morpog_work | Seems pretty clear now that Jolla tablet will dump btrfs and uses LVM | 13:36 |
| Nicd- | from what? | 13:36 |
| Morpog_work | https://github.com/sailfishos/initrd-helpers/commit/7fb283df9b45e58eb7ab94b080948c1fa553085f | 13:37 |
| * Stskeeps gets a shovel and starts hitting btrfs | 13:37 | |
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| Wnt | Morpog_work: interesting! | 13:37 |
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| * chem|st takes a stand, unarms Stskeeps and hunts him with the shovel | 13:53 | |
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| Smitty | Hello, been reading a little about the Sailfish OS. Is it possible this can be ported to the Samsung Galaxy Note 4? | 13:55 |
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| Morpog_work | Smitty: #sailfishos-porters | 13:57 |
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| Smitty | Okay! | 13:57 |
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| Tofe | Morpog_work: https://github.com/sailfishos/initrd-helpers/commit/7fb283df9b45e58eb7ab94b080948c1fa553085f#diff-601f86f06331a45c7846fba0cc1fb459R32 hehe | 14:09 |
| Morpog_work | nice :D | 14:10 |
| Morpog_work | I wonder if they try to get rid of btrfs on phone too | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | too late for that | 14:11 |
| Morpog_work | like using sfmf to dump existing stuff on sdcard and then repartition, convert and reflash from there | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | though i wouldn't mind community work to refresh devices | 14:12 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:12 |
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| Morpog_work | gtg | 14:16 |
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| narchie | so is it yet safe to update | 14:18 |
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| Yaniel | if you have done a btrfs balance and have lots of free space, yes 1.1.4 should be pretty safe AFAIK | 14:20 |
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| Nicd- | oh yes, 10/10 on test-ipv6.com with jolla's dual stack \o/ | 14:39 |
| Nicd- | on my mobile contract | 14:39 |
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| Nicd- | still need to make a systemctl service for it so it's enabled on boot somehow | 14:45 |
| Nicd- | dual stack that is. unless it can be set with a conf file | 14:45 |
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| Mikaela | Nicd-: dualstack should be remembered across reboots | 15:51 |
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| Mikaela | and I learned that I live in 4Gless zone with Elisa :( | 15:52 |
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| ScreamerX | ive read that jolla stores its sms in an sqlite database: https://together.jolla.com/question/26273/sms-ability-to-copy-store-them-to-an-excel-csv-file/ how does the schema of this table look like? | 17:21 |
| coderus | sqlite3 dbfile | 17:21 |
| coderus | .s | 17:21 |
| ScreamerX | i know how to query the schema. i just dont have a jolla phone (yet). | 17:22 |
| ScreamerX | does it store the gsm access point of the sender? | 17:23 |
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| coderus | ScreamerX: https://gist.github.com/609097b5de4ef359487c | 17:25 |
| Tegu | oh, I didn't know that gist can do pastes without an account. apparently I had never visited the frontpage of gist :D | 17:27 |
| Tegu | or hmm | 17:27 |
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| coderus | Tegu: https://github.com/CODeRUS/gist | 17:29 |
| Tegu | nice | 17:29 |
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| Nicd- | Mikaela: oh? I'll reboot to test :) | 17:42 |
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| Nicd- | Tegu: you can do anonymous gists | 17:42 |
| Tegu | yea apparently, just didn't know that | 17:42 |
| Tegu | (not that I've ever used gist for that matter. except reading some links) | 17:43 |
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| coderus | i like gist highlight better | 17:46 |
| coderus | and it supports QML | 17:46 |
| ScreamerX | coderus, thank you for posting the schema. so the gsm access point of the sender is not stored? | 17:48 |
| coderus | ScreamerX: no idea waht is "gsm access point of the sender" really, sorry | 17:49 |
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| ScreamerX | coderus, sorry, for gsm it is called cell id. https://developers.google.com/maps/documentation/business/geolocation/#cell_tower_object | 17:51 |
| ScreamerX | i was told, old symbian phones did store the cell id of the sender of an sms. | 17:51 |
| ScreamerX | with the cell id you could locate the person sending an sms. | 17:52 |
| Tegu | haha, does the operator send such data to the recipient? | 17:54 |
| ScreamerX | i think so, yes | 17:54 |
| pp | hmn, can't remember seeing that back when I did sms stuff with at commands and nasty decoding code :-) | 17:55 |
| pp | but might be a different layer that just wasn't visible there | 17:55 |
| chem|st | pp: cause you see everything after the modem | 17:55 |
| chem|st | police and ia use some kind of autoreply feature to receive silent sms, I think they call it location-ping | 17:56 |
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| chem|st | initially that was implemented as payment option I think | 17:57 |
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| ScreamerX | is the gsm cell id of the sender stored somewhere in the sqlite database? | 17:57 |
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| chem|st | on sailfish? I doubt it - no idea if that is already suppressed by providers | 17:58 |
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| Nicd- | Mikaela: you were right, it is persisted through a reboot :) | 18:04 |
| Mikaela | :) | 18:05 |
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| Stskeeps | https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20150519.141122.33678ce5.en.html | 18:52 |
| Nicd- | such a sad story | 18:52 |
| Nicd- | somebody tell them to enable developer mode | 18:53 |
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| raa700 | if no internets, how did he get file browser? | 19:01 |
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| Nicd- | was the command to go back to single stack ipv4 the same as dual stack but with 'variant:string:"ip"' at the end? | 19:15 |
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| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: help me please | 19:27 |
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| Stskeeps | TheBootroo|work: .. i can give you a beer? | 19:27 |
| TheBootroo|work | my wifi had her jolle phone randomly shutting down and blinking red led | 19:27 |
| Yaniel | wifi? | 19:27 |
| TheBootroo|work | so i backed up all her files | 19:27 |
| TheBootroo|work | and tired factory reset | 19:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | now it's stuck on jolla logo | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | able to get into recovery? | 19:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | i tried usb recovery too, but it tells my connection refused on telnet | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | use the right ip | 19:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | i have the good IP | 19:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | i can ping it too | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | trust me, you don't :P | 19:28 |
| TheBootroo|work | but telnet tells "telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused" | 19:28 |
| Stskeeps | can you ssh to it? | 19:29 |
| TheBootroo|work | inet 10.42.66.66 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 10.42.66.255 | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | make yours .67 | 19:29 |
| TheBootroo|work | nope i can't ssh | 19:29 |
| Stskeeps | ten bucks you're trying to access your own pc | 19:29 |
| TheBootroo|work | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: No route to host | 19:29 |
| TheBootroo|work | when i try 67 | 19:30 |
| Nicd- | did you change your computer's IP? | 19:30 |
| TheBootroo|work | i had to force manual ipv4 adres, because by default it gives me ipv6 | 19:30 |
| TheBootroo|work | and it deosn't work | 19:30 |
| Stskeeps | you have to telnet to 10.42.66.66 | 19:31 |
| TheBootroo|work | ohhh | 19:31 |
| TheBootroo|work | i got it | 19:31 |
| coderus | TheBootroo|work: its telnet, not ssh | 19:31 |
| Stskeeps | if your pc's ip is 10.42.66.66 is wrong | 19:31 |
| TheBootroo|work | i have the meny | 19:31 |
| TheBootroo|work | what now ? | 19:31 |
| TheBootroo|work | all i want is erase all and get new device | 19:32 |
| Stskeeps | try a factory reset as a start | 19:32 |
| TheBootroo|work | clean | 19:32 |
| coderus | TheBootroo|work: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201890427-How-do-I-reset-the-phone-to-factory-settings- | 19:32 |
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| coderus | ah sorry its not about recovery | 19:32 |
| coderus | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode- | 19:32 |
| coderus | this one | 19:32 |
| coderus | worth to read | 19:33 |
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| TheBootroo|work | coderus: i have to copy & paste all these commands ? | 19:33 |
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| TheBootroo|work | there is no single line "erase all and clean" ? | 19:33 |
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| TheBootroo|work | [DONE] DEVICE RECOVERED! | 19:34 |
| TheBootroo|work | i dunno if it "actually" worked | 19:35 |
| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: it should reboot now ? | 19:35 |
| TheBootroo|work | i have still red led | 19:35 |
| TheBootroo|work | and jolla logo | 19:35 |
| Stskeeps | give it a bit | 19:35 |
| TheBootroo|work | what must i do ? | 19:35 |
| TheBootroo|work | ok | 19:35 |
| * TheBootroo|work waiting | 19:35 | |
| Stskeeps | it's on charger? | 19:36 |
| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: usb on pc | 19:36 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 19:36 |
| TheBootroo|work | just in case something goes wrong, here is the trace http://pastebin.com/EPe8DjYi | 19:36 |
| TheBootroo|work | should i leave it plugged on pc ? | 19:37 |
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| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: still red led and jolla logo, is it normal that it's sooo lang ? | 19:40 |
| TheBootroo|work | *long | 19:40 |
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| TheBootroo|work | still didn't rebooted | 19:44 |
| TheBootroo|work | 10 minutes already since i press ENTER in recovery tool | 19:44 |
| TheBootroo|work | not sure what to do now | 19:44 |
| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: is this normal ? | 19:45 |
| chem|st | TheBootroo|work: it can take a while | 19:46 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't sound good, so, jolla.zendesk.com if it doesn't manifest for 30 minutes | 19:46 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: resets after a reset took >20min for some people iirc | 19:47 |
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| TheBootroo|work | chem|st: that much ? | 19:49 |
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| TheBootroo|work | what is it doing internally ? isn't it just basically extraction some readonly archive on rootfs ? | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | ah, that'd be easy wouldn't it | 19:49 |
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| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: as the devices are all the same, why should the operation duration vary that much from one device to another ? | 19:50 |
| TheBootroo|work | that sound weird to me.... | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | btrfs. | 19:50 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 19:50 |
| TheBootroo|work | oh | 19:50 |
| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: from the log i pastebin-ed, can you tel if my btrfs is ruined up ? | 19:51 |
| Stskeeps | no, it looked ok | 19:51 |
| TheBootroo|work | ok | 19:51 |
| TheBootroo|work | because it had some warnings | 19:51 |
| TheBootroo|work | "unknown operand" | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | that looked a bit weird yess | 19:52 |
| TheBootroo|work | still that damn fix red led | 19:53 |
| TheBootroo|work | it could at least pulse, just to "look alive" | 19:53 |
| TheBootroo|work | just sayin ^^ | 19:53 |
| TheBootroo|work | now its stuck in this "post recovery / pre reboot" state since 20 minutes | 19:54 |
| TheBootroo|work | i'm fingers-crossed | 19:55 |
| TheBootroo|work | just hoping it can be saved without having to send it back to finland | 19:55 |
| TheBootroo|work | it would mean at least 6 to 10 days without phone | 19:55 |
| TheBootroo|work | and THIS would be unacceptable | 19:55 |
| Stskeeps | well, there's always the mmc trick that i don't recommend | 19:55 |
| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: which is ? | 19:56 |
| TheBootroo|work | manually copying things instead of using recovery tool ? | 19:56 |
| Stskeeps | there's people that has published a copy of the mmc partition somewhere | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | but that's not an official fix, since it's a hack | 19:57 |
| Stskeeps | and may break phone even worse | 19:57 |
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| TheBootroo|work | ok | 19:58 |
| TheBootroo|work | so, hoping the official trick will work | 19:58 |
| TheBootroo|work | but ATM it's not very bright | 19:58 |
| TheBootroo|work | 25 minutes now;.. | 19:59 |
| TheBootroo|work | T_T | 19:59 |
| TheBootroo|work | recovering a linux device should not be so complex | 20:00 |
| TheBootroo|work | i've took back to life a lot of linux computers | 20:00 |
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| Stskeeps | have you ever tried recovering a dead linux distro? ;) | 20:00 |
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| TheBootroo|work | i though the phone would be similar | 20:00 |
| TheBootroo|work | that said, if there are some tricks i can try in the recovery shell, i'm not afraid by linux CLI | 20:01 |
| TheBootroo|work | 27 minutes | 20:01 |
| TheBootroo|work | it should definitely not take that much time | 20:02 |
| TheBootroo|work | something must be broken and did not appear on log trace | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | but now it's 10pm and i need to get to sleep | 20:02 |
| TheBootroo|work | Stskeeps: | 20:02 |
| TheBootroo|work | look trace log | 20:02 |
| TheBootroo|work | line 90 | 20:02 |
| TheBootroo|work | "segmentation fault" | 20:03 |
| TheBootroo|work | it's 10pm here too, but i can't go to bed and tell my wife that her phone is dead.... | 20:03 |
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| chem|st | TheBootroo|work: hmm | 20:09 |
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| chem|st | as you wanted factory reset... how about sending it in? for that kind of stuff it should not take longer than a week | 20:11 |
| TheBootroo|work | chem|st: a week without phone IS long | 20:12 |
| TheBootroo|work | we have no more fallback phone working here | 20:12 |
| TheBootroo|work | and don't want to buy one just for a week | 20:12 |
| chem|st | if you find someone with the same release as yours you may get an mmc image to recover but it is not adviseable nor very safe to recover from another phone, I for example locked my lock-code that way | 20:15 |
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| coderus | i have clean 1.0.8.something version :) | 20:46 |
| coderus | still no time to make "latest" :D | 20:46 |
| coderus | this way: https://gist.github.com/tuukka/7a81112ef161ee77eccb | 20:47 |
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| coderus | so no need to get "someone's data" | 20:47 |
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| Mikaela | Can someone safe me from Googling and tell me how do I check what DNS servers connman is using? | 21:04 |
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| teve | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --print-reply --dest=net.connman / net.connman.Manager.GetServices and search for Nameservers | 21:14 |
| Mikaela | thanks :) | 21:15 |
| teve | not really elegant way.. | 21:15 |
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| teve | I prefer /etc/resolv.conf | 21:16 |
| Mikaela | teve: and what does that tell to you? | 21:16 |
| teve | well, just localhost -> there is some local caching resolver | 21:18 |
| Mikaela | and my question was how does one see behind it | 21:20 |
| Mikaela | hmm, on wlan that returns nameservers of all networks? | 21:21 |
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