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| andybranson | Anyone know what's going on with the facebook mess? | 08:10 |
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| Nicd- | facebook closed their old API | 08:11 |
| Nicd- | which included XMPP | 08:12 |
| anYc | which mess in particular? ;) | 08:12 |
| andybranson | it was announced that the chat and contacts would disappear, and they've been removed in 1.1.4 | 08:13 |
| urs | is there any non-mess thing about facebook? | 08:13 |
| andybranson | but none of the other functionality is working at all since 30.04 | 08:13 |
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| andybranson | the account config page still lists the image gallery, the calendar, and the feeds/notifications, but it's all stopped working then | 08:15 |
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| merlin1991 | Now that you say it, yeah my feed stopped 10 days ago | 08:32 |
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| chem|st | Nicd-: facebook didn't, the old stuff is still working | 10:46 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: my sis did not upgrade to .4 yet and has everything working still | 10:47 |
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| Nicd- | chem|st: they said they would. jolla cannot keep it in the OS if facebook says they will kill it at a certain date | 10:49 |
| Nicd- | that it still works is facebook's problem, not jolla's | 10:49 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: they want fb to help them support the new api and therefor they need to use the new api itfp | 10:50 |
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| simor | Hi, anyone here to help me with Jolla Store? It works ok, but it doesn't show a single app by Jolla. | 10:55 |
| simor | I' m on 1.0.7.16 and do not wish to upgrade on this phone. | 10:55 |
| Nicd- | why don't you want to upgrade? | 10:57 |
| stephg | ^^ good question | 10:58 |
| simor | I have another phone with later version, and Iwant to keep up with a possibility to compare to this v | 10:58 |
| simor | but... The problem is actually the same with the other phone, currently running on 1.1.1 | 10:59 |
| coderus | are you sharing same jolla account between them? | 10:59 |
| simor | Currently not | 11:00 |
| simor | 1.0.7 has a unique account, not used on other devices | 11:00 |
| simor | 1.1.1 has another account, used on three devices | 11:01 |
| simor | so the 1.1.1 has been used with a "shared account", but currently no other devices share that | 11:02 |
| simor | wht makes this issue pretty interesting is that Apps by Jolla are visible and installable IF they show up in "Activity" roll at Jolla Store. Search doesn't find them, however | 11:04 |
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| coderus | inside Jolla Store app, at the bottom you see no Jolla category or ot's empty? | 11:05 |
| coderus | or* | 11:05 |
| simor | empty | 11:05 |
| coderus | tried to remove and add jolla account? | 11:05 |
| simor | yep, didn't help | 11:06 |
| simor | I tried that both with changing to another existing account, and with a brand new account | 11:06 |
| coderus | maybe some problem with store cache. try to remove store-client package, then delete /home/nemo/.cache/store-client folder and installing store-client package again | 11:08 |
| simor | commands pls | 11:09 |
| coderus | pkcon remove store-client | 11:10 |
| coderus | rm -rf /home/nemo/.cache/store-client | 11:10 |
| coderus | pkcon install store-client | 11:10 |
| simor | output: "Fatal error: This request will break your system!" | 11:10 |
| simor | after removing command | 11:11 |
| coderus | hm, stop, it have some weird dependencies | 11:11 |
| coderus | then skip first command | 11:11 |
| politie | coderus, quick question if you dont mind; if i update to whatsup beta 3 do i keep conversations? | 11:12 |
| simor | just try to avoid getting me into a factory reset stage :) It might be difficult to get back to 1.0.7 after that. Passing first command now... | 11:12 |
| coderus | politie: i have no idea, really. ask cepi on tmo about this. i don't know how whatsup working | 11:12 |
| politie | oh sorry i thought you made it | 11:12 |
| politie | thanks | 11:13 |
| coderus | politie: no, my app is mitakuuluu | 11:13 |
| coderus | and it's not published yet | 11:13 |
| politie | also for whatsapp? | 11:13 |
| coderus | yes | 11:13 |
| politie | allright nice | 11:14 |
| simor | coderus: ok, cache file removed and installed store-client. Should I check in at store now to see if there's anything, or reboot, or...? | 11:14 |
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| coderus | simor: yes, start store and check if you see jolla apps | 11:14 |
| simor | process was ok, as I got a new notification of the next update, but... Jolla apps are still missing. Store message at Essential... is the same: "You will be able to see content here once it's available" | 11:16 |
| coderus | simor: and what about latest sailfishos device? | 11:17 |
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| simor | I'll repeat the same steps on that then... | 11:18 |
| simor | 1.1.1 output after install: "Fatal error: Failed to obtain authentication." | 11:21 |
| coderus | what is output of ssu domain command? | 11:21 |
| simor | "sales" on both | 11:21 |
| coderus | then you hva problem with account where "Fatal error: Failed to obtain authentication." | 11:23 |
| coderus | or problem with internet | 11:23 |
| stephg | or time... | 11:24 |
| simor | no problem with interenet, no help with updating credentials on 1.1.1, no help removing account+reboot+add same account on 1.1.1. Account shows as active | 11:27 |
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| simor | coderus: can I list all accounts on the phone via SSH somehow? | 11:31 |
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| stephg | it's an sqlite database somewhere | 11:38 |
| stephg | I think | 11:39 |
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| simor | stephg: Thanks, not sure if it would be related at all, just a thought | 11:41 |
| stephg | yeah | 11:42 |
| stephg | well it's there | 11:42 |
| stephg | (I think) | 11:43 |
| simor | coderus: I just missed root on 1.1.1: Both phones, with separate accounts, installed the store-client just fine but the issue remains | 11:44 |
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| simor | Isolating the problem: Jolla Store main screen is showing Jolla apps (when they appear by luck), but categories "Top apps" & "Jolla" are empty, categories "New apps" and all others are showing only 3rd party apps | 11:53 |
| simor | additionally, via Store search I can find e.g. Documents on the phone where it's installed, but not on the other phone where it's manually removed | 11:56 |
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| simor | Well, while there's no help for my issue, I just found "Maps" from the Activity category :) any other workarounds to install apps by Jolla except for asking someone to comment them and watching the activity constantly? That seems to be my current way of installing any Jolla apps... | 12:25 |
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| Yaniel | huh? there is "essential apps from jolla" right at the top on the front page of the app store | 13:16 |
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| Teme | yeah... just open store and on the very first screen click the top | 13:17 |
| Teme | takes you to the basic apps list | 13:18 |
| Teme | also selecting category 'Jolla' takes to the same place | 13:18 |
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| Teme | he says they are empty... problem with the backend? | 13:19 |
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| simor | Nickleu Yaniel: Normally yes, but those are empty in two Jolla's in our family... Only seeing 3rd party apps in Jolla Store. Any help would be welcome | 13:40 |
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| jaacoppi | simor: how about searching by name? | 14:02 |
| jaacoppi | aah sorry, diacussed qlready | 14:02 |
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| baum | quick question: is the battery covered within the warranty? | 15:13 |
| ggabriel | it should be | 15:15 |
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| dirkvl | ask care@jolla.com | 15:19 |
| teve | https://jolla.com/warranty-policy/ Six (6) months from the date of purchase by the original end user for the following consumable parts and accessories: batteries | 15:20 |
| falfa | is 6 month legal in europe? | 15:21 |
| falfa | s/month/months/ | 15:21 |
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| ggabriel | it's pretty common for batteries | 15:21 |
| ggabriel | not sure about legality | 15:21 |
| ggabriel | but batteries != electronics | 15:21 |
| falfa | i always thought 1 year was minimum for consumer goods in europe | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | 2 years i think, for electronics | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | maybe even all consumer goods | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | but that doesn't include batteries | 15:22 |
| ggabriel | (I think) | 15:22 |
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| falfa | kk | 15:22 |
| baum | alright thanks, i'll give it a try | 15:22 |
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| pp__ | warranty != statuatory rights | 15:47 |
| Helle | falfa: for batteries it's legal | 15:47 |
| Helle | actually within Europe you have the right to warranty for as long as the "expected lifetime" | 15:48 |
| pp__ | btw. https://together.jolla.com/question/89966/use-dual-stack-ipv4-and-ipv6-on-mobile-data-by-default/ could use some testing | 15:48 |
| pp__ | would be nice to know if the "dual" breaks things happens to anyone else on 1.1.4 | 15:49 |
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| truls | it defaults to v6 on wlan | 15:49 |
| truls | just to comment on something relevant but not on topic | 15:51 |
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| coderus | PhotoFunia public test: https://twitter.com/photofunia/status/597783165881679873 | 16:25 |
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| Mikaela | does that command persist after reboot? I think someone has said that it doesn't, but nothing is mentioned on that page | 16:33 |
| coderus | Mikaela: what command? | 16:34 |
| Mikaela | and how so you copy that command in browser? | 16:34 |
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| Mikaela | dualstack ipv4/6 dbus-send | 16:34 |
| Mikaela | oh, I am talking hour late again... | 16:35 |
| coderus | ofono should save settings afaik | 16:35 |
| Mikaela | pp__ said "btw. https://together.jolla.com/question/89966/use-dual-stack-ipv4-and-ipv6-on-mobile-data-by-default/ could use some testing" | 16:35 |
| Mikaela | ok, thanks | 16:35 |
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| pp__ | it doesn't afaik | 16:43 |
| pp__ | lessee :-) | 16:44 |
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| pp__ | hmn, still ipv6 after reboot so it does | 16:46 |
| Mikaela | :) | 16:49 |
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| rednan | Wow, after two days: it's suddenly back alive | 17:14 |
| rednan | Appearently I had two broken chargers | 17:15 |
| rednan | My laptop's permanently powered usb port fixed it | 17:15 |
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| tadzik | wow | 17:18 |
| tadzik | two broken chargers, what are the odds | 17:18 |
| rednan | China.. I should have known | 17:18 |
| tadzik | :/ | 17:18 |
| rednan | They probably broke during another of the great brownouts / overvolts here | 17:19 |
| tadzik | good thing your laptop comes from a better manufacturer /s :P | 17:19 |
| rednan | It's an almost 4 year old HP elitebook | 17:19 |
| rednan | With no real signs of dieing | 17:19 |
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| rednan | It has lost it's thumb mouse thing, and more scratches than a scratching post, but still, it works, it has a decent processor etc. It's just the battery life isn't that great (1 hour 40 minutes now) | 17:20 |
| tadzik | I recently got a new battery for my thinkpad, the extended one. It's marvelous | 17:21 |
| rednan | The electric connection here is kind of borked. It has a lot of brownouts etc. I bought a really really high quality PSU for my desktop, just because of that | 17:21 |
| tadzik | the old one has maybe 60-90 minutes of juice in it | 17:21 |
| rednan | I originally had 4 hours | 17:21 |
| tadzik | same here | 17:21 |
| rednan | Stretching it | 17:21 |
| tadzik | new one goes 8-9 when not stressed too much | 17:21 |
| rednan | 8560w with an AMD firepro graphics chip | 17:21 |
| rednan | The only bad thing is that the I7 inside is a second generation, so it will always consume a lot | 17:23 |
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| Mikaela | just to confirm with that IPv6 command, it's supposed to reply `method return sender=:1.7 -> dest=:1.365 reply_serial=2` when it's successful? | 19:34 |
| Mikaela | I hope so as I already reported to the thread and wouldn't like to edit the comment | 19:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah thats pretty normal for a dbus command | 19:52 |
| r0kk3rz | you need to query it to check the value | 19:52 |
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| Mikaela | how do I do that? | 20:00 |
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| Sail0r | where does timed-qt5 load the alarms from | 20:04 |
| Sail0r | because I deleted everything from "Components" which was associated with an old calendar | 20:04 |
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| Sail0r | and the reminders still pop up for this calendar | 20:05 |
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| falfa | rednan: chargers i think are not to be taken lightly, they do power work at high frequencies and need good design and good filters. A charger needs to transmit 5 watts to the phone and still try to be as small as possible. I've stopped buying cheap chargers and it feels safer now :-) | 20:11 |
| r0kk3rz | blame apple, they started doing silly things like reducing the size of wall warts | 20:12 |
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| Nicd- | of course, everything is always apple's fault | 20:12 |
| Nicd- | even though my jolla's charger is smaller than my wife's iphone's charger :P | 20:12 |
| Nicd- | and my nokia charger is even smaller | 20:12 |
| the_mgt | the iphone charger is rather small, the fat one was for the ipad | 20:13 |
| the_mgt | dunno what the recent 6er versions use | 20:13 |
| rednan | falfa, but the bad one came with my phone | 20:13 |
| falfa | rednan: oh! :-( | 20:13 |
| Mikaela | r0kk3rz: how do I query it to check the value & pp__: you might want to mention that in the thread so people can confirm | 20:13 |
| the_mgt | but i load everything with the ipad charger now, has more watts | 20:13 |
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| falfa | the risk of fire is probably still very small. Only a fraction of electrical fires start from chargers. some 90% start on stoves, then some more than 9% are heaters, hairdryers and that kind of electricality. Chargers are almost neglible (sic?) | 20:16 |
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| r0kk3rz | Mikaela: dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0/context1 org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties.Get string:"org.ofono.ConnectionContext" string:"Protocol" | 20:16 |
| r0kk3rz | something like that should do it | 20:16 |
| falfa | but bad filtering does other bad things | 20:17 |
| Mikaela | Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Method "Get" with signature "ss" on interface "org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties" doesn't exist | 20:17 |
| r0kk3rz | i always forget the syntax for dbus-send stuff, because they're just so memorable | 20:17 |
| kimmoli | r0kk3rz: :) | 20:19 |
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| kimmoli | i have a text-file in ~ to memorize that | 20:20 |
| Mikaela | oh, that was sarcasm, I had difficulties understanding | 20:20 |
| scottc | 105 euro + shipping 2 ways to fix my Jolla screen | 20:21 |
| scottc | ho hum :( | 20:21 |
| scottc | or i pay 200 euro + send in my current jolla to get a new one... sigh | 20:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | Mikaela: yeah sorry sarcasm, its easy to forget theres a lot of non-native english speakers in here | 20:25 |
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| Stskeeps | scottc: it's only 105 now? | 20:28 |
| Stskeeps | used to be worse | 20:28 |
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| scottc | Stskeeps: "only"! | 20:28 |
| scottc | plus it's more like 140 if you include shipping both ways, which is rather high since i paid 200 originally... | 20:29 |
| Stskeeps | last i heard it was like 200+ so :P | 20:29 |
| scottc | 200+ for a screen replacement? you'd literally be better off buying an entire new phone! | 20:30 |
| Stskeeps | which is what many people did .. :P | 20:30 |
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| scottc | oh dear | 20:31 |
| scottc | that really sucks | 20:31 |
| scottc | very disappointed that it broke, only had it for two months | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | it's really curious how some screens break and others seem like they're nokia 3310's | 20:31 |
| scottc | yeah... | 20:31 |
| Stskeeps | i've really beaten mine, and my wife has gotten hers beaten really badly too | 20:31 |
| scottc | lucky you | 20:32 |
| scottc | mine just fell 30cm on to a laptop charger :( | 20:32 |
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| fennekki | I have something that looks like a crack on my screen but it might actually be a scratch, too - I have no clue. It doesn't feel like a crack and it doesn't look like one from certain angles | 20:33 |
| kimmoli | the one i recently bought, was left between car door (in jacket pocket), soaked twice in toilet (just touch not working) | 20:33 |
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| scottc | jesus | 20:34 |
| kimmoli | that reminds me, how do i start synaptic manually? there is no evdev | 20:34 |
| scottc | i must have gotten the worst dud jolla to date :P | 20:34 |
| scottc | looks like i'm out of the sailfish game until my tablet appears! | 20:35 |
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| kimmoli | http://knowyourmeme.com/photos/950340-indestructible-nokia-3310 | 20:36 |
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| kimmoli | or this http://imgur.com/gallery/4Mzo2kh | 20:37 |
| Mikaela | I had one of those! :D | 20:38 |
| Mikaela | but it didn't have camera if I recall correctly, those were invented years later...? | 20:38 |
| kimmoli | i forgot mine to my old corolla, it was between and drivers seat to keep it straight | 20:38 |
| dr_gogeta86 | anyone here with nexus 5 | 20:39 |
| dr_gogeta86 | ? | 20:39 |
| dr_gogeta86 | with sfos | 20:39 |
| dr_gogeta86 | which cm11 snapshot ? | 20:39 |
| Mikaela | dr_gogeta86: you might want to try #nexus5 | 20:39 |
| Mikaela | dr_gogeta86: oh, then #sailfishos-porters or something | 20:39 |
| Mikaela | or waas it #sailfish-porters | 20:39 |
| scottc | #sailfishos is pretty helpful too | 20:40 |
| scottc | people in there spoke about nexus 5s before | 20:40 |
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| kimmoli | i'm pretty sure dr_gogeta86 is all over these channels already :) | 20:42 |
| dr_gogeta86 | yep | 20:42 |
| scottc | good stuff | 20:42 |
| dr_gogeta86 | i can't find a suitable m9 for my phone | 20:43 |
| kimmoli | i need to get another device running sfos, with different resolution on screen | 20:43 |
| dr_gogeta86 | so i've askd | 20:43 |
| kimmoli | i had 1+1 but my daughter took it | 20:43 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | ahahah | 20:43 |
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