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| kimmoli | pushed billy bass to OR to get some feedback; https://openrepos.net/content/kimmoli/billy-bass | 09:30 |
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| kimmoli | if there is other way to register this to pulseaudio, it would possibly be in harbour... http://pastebin.com/5t4gULEc | 09:31 |
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| jaacoppi | installed | 09:48 |
| jaacoppi | copyright notice could have your name, and I'd hope you'd stick with english | 09:50 |
| jaacoppi | other than that, keep up the good work. I'd like to see TTS improve | 09:52 |
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| dirkvl__ | kimmoli: where is the fish | 09:56 |
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| kimmoli | jaacoppi: just testing, some strings in finnish ... | 09:59 |
| kimmoli | dirkvl: fishs are still in lake | 10:00 |
| temmi_foo | the cat is in the moon... | 10:00 |
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| kimmoli | would like to have auto language detect based on string to speak. "where is the fish" was not really understanble in finnish | 10:02 |
| jaacoppi | how about setting the language in-app? | 10:09 |
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| kimmoli | in the nonexisting todo list... | 10:15 |
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| Fusl | just had a bug (5 seconds ago) where i couldn't hang up the phone anymore | 10:42 |
| Fusl | only when the other party finally hung up the phone | 10:42 |
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| Yaniel | can I get mkfs.vfat on the device from somewhere? | 11:02 |
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| Nicd- | mer-tools? | 11:08 |
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| coderus | One man reminded me of an old odea about creating twitch and youtibe channels for sailfish development and other sailfish stuff which can be useful as video guides. So, tell me if you want to subscribe to this channel or not and tell me why please. | 11:40 |
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| scottc | sounds like a good idea to me | 11:43 |
| scottc | I would watch them | 11:43 |
| scottc | there aren't a huge amount of SfOS dev resources, so it couldn't hurt | 11:43 |
| coderus | not about hurt, just about is it wort it spending time for recording stuff | 11:44 |
| scottc | right | 11:44 |
| coderus | worth* | 11:45 |
| TemeV | I don't like video guides in general. Written guides are better, because checking some single instruction from a video is slow | 11:47 |
| kimmoli | add bookmarks to the video for "actually starts here"... | 11:48 |
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| zutto | TemeV: i agree | 11:49 |
| zutto | plus in general, videos are slow | 11:49 |
| zutto | and sidetrack easily | 11:49 |
| zutto | written guides can be polished with no effort | 11:49 |
| coderus | aim is having fun in twitch live streaming about sailfish :) | 11:49 |
| zutto | how about this coderus? https://www.livecoding.tv | 11:50 |
| coderus | first is some part prepared for stream, and then subscribers asking to tell about some stuff | 11:50 |
| coderus | zutto: yes like this, but with paid subscribers :D | 11:51 |
| zutto | oh i see | 11:51 |
| zutto | paid subscribers and ads rolling every 5 minutes ;P | 11:51 |
| zutto | good luck, i'm off | 11:51 |
| coderus | well, only if ads about sailfish and jolla :D | 11:51 |
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| entil | coderus: I would watch that channel, at least if the specific topic was interesting to me, because I need to brush up on my skillz | 12:06 |
| entil | like most people most often ;P | 12:06 |
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| coderus | `. | 12:10 |
| Acce | would be fun to watch, but I wouldn't pay for it I guess | 12:10 |
| Acce | ads, well, fine | 12:11 |
| Acce | asking specific questions? maybe paid subscription would be ok | 12:11 |
| entil | I have no idea how patreon.com works but most of the stuff I watch on youtube has adopted it | 12:12 |
| entil | seems worth looking into for handling paid content | 12:12 |
| coderus | Acce: yes, just live streams saved to some youtube channel after, you do not need to pay for some stuff. Just subscribers can request more stuff during stream. But cool and general questions to be solved in live streaming are open for everybody :) | 12:14 |
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| entil | seems the patreon bonuses are along these lines https://www.patreon.com/redlettermedia (and I should totally start pledging, RLM is the best channel on youtube) | 12:18 |
| entil | but I'm not sure I'd pay to see blooper reels with coderus' typos on them, just some nominal sum to maybe get access to something interesting | 12:18 |
| entil | and something like $2 a month | 12:18 |
| coderus | entil: for the live streams i seen myself subscribers have privileges to ask something during stream, so all other users questions are added to list and can be used for future streams. that is my idea for subscribers. | 12:21 |
| Acce | coderus: cool! | 12:22 |
| entil | ok, that's ok | 12:22 |
| coderus | well, main idea is getting money somehow for some stuff, but i have no ieda what it can be :) | 12:22 |
| coderus | means subscribers will have some privileges, but i'm not sure which ones :D | 12:23 |
| entil | I'd be ok with that patreon model, if you're a patreon supporter you get to ask live questions, but pricing is hard because there's no way I can put a lot of money into those kinds of things | 12:23 |
| * entil the kind of guy who'd rather pay for a specific thing than tossing $10 here and 10e there and everywhere every month | 12:23 | |
| coderus | as it's not gaming channel "play with subscribers" | 12:23 |
| coderus | entil: well yes, i guess subscribing amount for twitch is fixed | 12:24 |
| entil | I know what twitch is but that's all, no idea how it works or how money works with it :P | 12:24 |
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| TMavica | Stskeeps: https://i.imgur.com/t0awjL9.png | 12:37 |
| Tofe | My guess: http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/random_number.png (with 35) | 12:42 |
| temmi_foo | is twitch something to pay for? | 12:44 |
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| coderus | http://www.twitch.tv/andreykozhevnikov :D | 13:01 |
| coderus | now i need a way to share my jolla screen :D | 13:01 |
| temmi_foo | loading the page took too long, closed the tab | 13:05 |
| temmi_foo | the same happens with dropbox image shares, the html5 just does something so horribly wrong it takes forever for the content to render | 13:06 |
| coderus | lol :D | 13:06 |
| temmi_foo | i'm browsing with a 4 year old mbp that is ever so slightly swapping so slow pages are slow | 13:07 |
| temmi_foo | cannot be bothered if the content takes over a minute to appear | 13:07 |
| coderus | twitch caching too long | 13:08 |
| coderus | but i stopped broadcast for now :) | 13:08 |
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| temmi_foo | i'm still not sure what twitch is and is there something i'd pay for in there | 13:11 |
| Acce | you can use it for free mostly | 13:11 |
| coderus | temmi_foo: you just watching live streams in twitch | 13:14 |
| coderus | but it allow users to pay for subscriptions for channels | 13:14 |
| temmi_foo | live streams of what? | 13:17 |
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| temmi_foo | there are things i imagine i could pay for as per content or per channel if the price is low enough and also if the pay only has very limited content | 13:31 |
| temmi_foo | i mean, normal tv channels have way more totally unnecessary bull i don't want to see and support producing | 13:31 |
| temmi_foo | also, traditionally they're packaged so that you cannot even pay for just one channel that still has mostly crud but you have to pay for a package to get the one channel you really want to | 13:32 |
| temmi_foo | so 50eur a moon for 99% crap, no thx | 13:32 |
| temmi_foo | i'd rather pay a rather less sum for a very much more targeted content, preferably straight to producer of said content | 13:33 |
| coderus | temmi_foo: anything. wathcing is free. if you like subscriber you donating to it once or monthly. thats it. | 13:37 |
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| temmi_foo | donating suits me also fine | 13:40 |
| temmi_foo | been there done that | 13:40 |
| temmi_foo | would do more often if the mechanisms of donating regularly irregularly small sums were easier in their ux | 13:40 |
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| locusf | twitch partners have subscription for 5$ a month | 13:45 |
| locusf | following will let you know of the strams happening | 13:46 |
| locusf | the channel broadcasters usually have their custim benefits for subscribers | 13:46 |
| temmi_foo | 5 dollars a month for a channel or for all of twitch? | 13:51 |
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| Ezko | for a channel but there's no benefit if you don't spam the channel chat | 13:54 |
| Ezko | you can get twitch turbo to get rid of all commercials for 5 dollars a month | 13:55 |
| Ezko | subscribing does that for that particular channel | 13:55 |
| temmi_foo | $5 a month is a bit much considering most good content producers make good and interesting content not even every month | 13:59 |
| Ezko | you don't create content for twitch, you stream on twitch | 14:01 |
| Ezko | only thing you get for money in there is no ads | 14:02 |
| Ezko | and hd for some tournament channels but there aren't many of thos2 either | 14:02 |
| Ezko | i've paid no money tl twitch and i watch it regularly | 14:03 |
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| temmi_foo | who then creates content? somebody does | 14:10 |
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| Ezko | temmi_foo: i've streamed on twitch | 14:12 |
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| coderus | lets make some test stream then. Channel address is: www.twitch.tv/andreykozhevnikov. Write your questions and ideas for live coding stream for SailfishOS :) | 14:47 |
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| coderus | temmi_foo: i need to get 500 minimum views to be able to get funds using twitch :) | 15:01 |
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| toerb | coderus: You need Adobe Flash Player to watch this video. | 15:08 |
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| coderus | toerb: i have no idea how it works, sorry. i'm sing chrome always :) | 15:08 |
| coderus | using* | 15:08 |
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| toerb | coderus: installed flashplugin for you. | 15:10 |
| coderus | :D | 15:11 |
| coderus | linux? | 15:11 |
| toerb | is it supposed to be offline? | 15:11 |
| coderus | yes | 15:11 |
| toerb | coderus: sure | 15:11 |
| coderus | i used wine flash plugin with firefox before :D | 15:12 |
| coderus | i'm collecting ideas for first test stream | 15:12 |
| coderus | so post your suggestions | 15:12 |
| coderus | and it will start when i get enough ideas what to stream :) | 15:12 |
| toerb | how about starting simple? qml and how it is structured.. how qml can be splitted in multiple files and how communication works then | 15:13 |
| coderus | toerb: okay, added | 15:14 |
| coderus | http://piratepad.net/OSIjkZUa8d | 15:15 |
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| locusf | I got this 3d-printed pedestal for Jolla and a camera phone | 15:17 |
| locusf | can be used in presentations | 15:18 |
| coderus | toerb: you can also watch streams using vlc, but you can't see conversation here | 15:19 |
| coderus | but there is also separate chat clients, so you can get rid if flash probably :) | 15:20 |
| coderus | also TMavica found https://openrepos.net/content/aldrog/twitchtube | 15:22 |
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| TMavica | but the developer havent maintain it for a long time | 15:33 |
| TMavica | the playback got problem | 15:33 |
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| coderus | sad | 15:34 |
| TMavica | o. just saw this: https://github.com/Aldrog/TwitchTube/issues/2 | 15:35 |
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| temmi_foo | so, twitch is like videostream with associated chat? | 16:00 |
| TMavica | yes. | 16:02 |
| TMavica | There is many girls with big boobs like to play this | 16:02 |
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| coderus | temmi_foo: right | 16:03 |
| temmi_foo | okay | 16:05 |
| TMavica | mostly is games | 16:05 |
| temmi_foo | took a while since nobody told me and i practically cannot check it out | 16:05 |
| temmi_foo | at least, not via their website | 16:05 |
| temmi_foo | it loads so slow i just die waiting | 16:05 |
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| temmi_foo | they must be using some horribly wonderful thing like "compressed js" or someother utter bullcrap | 16:06 |
| toerb | temmi_foo: uBlock (firefox addon) gives me 44 blocked elements on the site :S | 16:08 |
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| temmi_foo | :) | 16:13 |
| temmi_foo | wonderfully constructed | 16:13 |
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| coderus | http://piratepad.net/OSIjkZUa8d agenda is full. i can start streaming asap, decide time when most of you can watch it :) | 16:32 |
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| entil | http://www.reddit.com/r/netsec/comments/34e6si/whatsapps_endtoend_encryption_analysed_its_pretty/cqtxbh7 :o | 18:27 |
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| coderus | entil: yeah, stupid peoples on fire | 21:09 |
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| temmi_foo | what i dislike of the reddit-links the most is that by default the actual content is closed and only ranting is shown | 21:56 |
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