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| Mikaela | there is BitlBee and the newer versions have the fb protocol | 07:27 |
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| chem|st | Mikaela: too late, left fb | 07:49 |
| Mikaela | probably not so bad thing | 07:49 |
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| chem|st | Mikaela: well I need to keep the account for maemo though but else, what use is it? | 07:57 |
| Mikaela | everything where you login with Facebook instead of registering manually | 07:57 |
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| chem|st | Mikaela: never gonna happen | 08:01 |
| Mikaela | I am probably logged in with it at too many places | 08:01 |
| chem|st | so you did exactly what they wanted you to do, make your online life depend on their account... | 08:02 |
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| Mikaela | :'( | 08:12 |
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| * jonwil refuses to use Facebook :P | 08:13 | |
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| chem|st | Mikaela: do you feel ass-raped? | 08:38 |
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| Mikaela | I wouldn't throw jokes about sexual assault like that | 08:38 |
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| chem|st | -.- | 08:41 |
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| TMavica | Anybody hv experience 'when startup android apps, it shows the cover, then Jolla sudden lag and no response, then reboot itself | 09:12 |
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| chem|st | does it reboot (what is "bootreason") or powercycle? | 09:23 |
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| TMavica | Havent chk. How to chk it? | 09:40 |
| TMavica | It is not happen frequently, but everytime it auto reboot is because of this | 09:41 |
| Mikaela | will there be update to remove those broken fb things? | 09:45 |
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| tadzik | huh, my jolla just dropped bluetooth and wifi tethering out of the blue | 10:52 |
| tadzik | like it went into deep sleep and decided they're no longer necessary | 10:53 |
| scottc | Mikaela: discussing something similar in #maemo, maybe it's due to https://developers.facebook.com/docs/apps/api-v1-deprecation | 10:53 |
| Stskeeps | both at same time? | 10:53 |
| tadzik | Stskeeps: yes | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | awkward | 10:54 |
| Stskeeps | sure it wasn't a reboot? | 10:55 |
| tadzik | the apps are still up, and a reboot usually takes *ages* :) | 10:56 |
| tadzik | $ dmesg -H | 10:56 |
| tadzik | sh: less: command not found | 10:56 |
| tadzik | jolla pls | 10:56 |
| scottc | lolla | 10:57 |
| Stskeeps | PAGER=? | 10:57 |
| tadzik | yep, more works | 10:58 |
| scottc | er, speaking of strange Sailfish bugs, is there a term for that thing that happens where the screen randomly turns off, the blue light flickers 3-4 times and I get back to a lock screen? is that a soft reboot or something? | 10:59 |
| scottc | for a while that happened whenever I tried to launch a bookmark from my launcher | 10:59 |
| tadzik | last logs say they're from April 29 though | 10:59 |
| tadzik | I think -H is lying to me | 10:59 |
| tadzik | scottc: I have this with green light, and I suspect the lockscreen mediaplayer patch | 11:00 |
| tadzik | I wish it was a separate thing from the MPRIS patch, as I only need the latter | 11:00 |
| scottc | I don't actually have either, oddly enough | 11:00 |
| scottc | but now I see that it supports qtspot, I might volunteer myself for another bug :D | 11:01 |
| tadzik | huh, now it dropped wifi, weird | 11:01 |
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| tadzik | yep, both went down again | 11:05 |
| tadzik | I never used both bluetooth and tethering before, seems like it can't handle both for some reason | 11:05 |
| Stskeeps | it probably has coexistence issues | 11:06 |
| tadzik | jealousy | 11:06 |
| scottc | haha | 11:08 |
| tadzik | funny thing is, usb network also went down | 11:10 |
| tadzik | very weird | 11:10 |
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| Mikaela | scottc: I think it's that too, but will there be upgrade to remove them? I have not-updating FB feed in notifications | 11:46 |
| scottc | Mikaela: no idea, sorry! I'm a layman | 11:51 |
| scottc | I don't have chat working but I'm not sure if it's because of FB APIs or something else... | 11:52 |
| Mikaela | chat was based on XMPP which was closed and I believe everything else used the same | 11:52 |
| scottc | yeah, but XMPP chat still works on my other devices | 11:58 |
| scottc | and I did an upgrade to .29 (god help me if i try to spell the finnish lake names) last week so i was unsure if it was the upgrade or xmpp closing | 11:58 |
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| Mikaela | hmm, weird, XMPP also works on my BitlBee | 12:02 |
| Mikaela | Äijänpäivänjärvi, it's not that difficult :D | 12:02 |
| * Mikaela happens to be native Finnish speaker though :) | 12:02 | |
| Yaniel | I'd imagine _spelling_ them is not that bad | 12:04 |
| Yaniel | pronouncing on the other hand may be a bit... funny | 12:04 |
| scottc | Mikaela: oh yeah, of course :roll: :D | 12:04 |
| scottc | i'd just learned how to spell yliavanlaampi, and i don't even know if that's correct | 12:04 |
| Yaniel | you missed an a | 12:04 |
| Yaniel | Yliaavanlampi | 12:05 |
| Yaniel | yli-aavan-lampi | 12:05 |
| scottc | ah, i always forget if the repeated a is after yl or l | 12:05 |
| Yaniel | and äijän-päivän-järvi | 12:05 |
| scottc | i give up | 12:05 |
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| scottc | just going to install android on my jolla so i can pronounce the release names | 12:06 |
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| Mikaela | :( | 12:07 |
| Yaniel | people have the strangest problems :D | 12:07 |
| Stskeeps | still slightly puzzled why nobody attempted a CM port to the jolla yet | 12:08 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:08 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: there is really no point in doing so | 12:09 |
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| chem|st | I am wondering why there are no attempts to get 3.18 | 12:10 |
| Stskeeps | well, because it's a royal nightmare | 12:11 |
| Yaniel | screw 3.18, 4.0 is here | 12:11 |
| chem|st | Yaniel: or that... | 12:11 |
| Yaniel | (I imagine that being an even greater nightmare) | 12:11 |
| chem|st | 3.18 is the latest LT though | 12:11 |
| chem|st | Yaniel: why, it is just the same nightmare to reverse engineer hardware drivers for one or another | 12:12 |
| scottc | I'm actually surprised that there isn't a CM port yet | 12:12 |
| scottc | I'd probably never get it working, much like my failed dual-boot of SfOS and CM on my Nexus 4... :P | 12:13 |
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| cptG | hello! is it possible, if making an app, to give a system-wide possibility to "share with" stuff with that app? Like on android where I can share content with my notes app and alike? Is there an API? Kinda like registering ann application to handle a file extension on the desktop? | 14:25 |
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| cptG | ...hm... seems transfer-engine is what I'm looking for. has anybody used it or knows of a project that uses it? | 14:33 |
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| coderus | cptG: yes | 16:52 |
| coderus | check this: https://github.com/CODeRUS/harbour-mitakuuluu2/tree/master/shareui | 16:53 |
| coderus | (can be outdated a bit) | 16:53 |
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| coderus | why dumb users are looking into filesystem and writing such questions?? https://together.jolla.com/question/91689/my-home-folder-is-duplicated-into-optalien/ | 17:12 |
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| kimmoli | waiting for rm -rf /opt/alien ? | 17:17 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: you can't do it, many system folders are mounted | 17:20 |
| kimmoli | i know.. | 17:21 |
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| coderus | you can uninstall aliendalvik and reboot and check which folders are exists in /opt/alien | 17:23 |
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| TMavica | any software can scan Jolla for virus? Mine is infected | 18:56 |
| coderus | TMavica: LOL | 19:00 |
| * coderus falled under desk and crying here | 19:00 | |
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| Sail0r | lol | 19:01 |
| fennekki | TMavica: um | 19:01 |
| TMavica | I got a file call "fuck" in my root.. | 19:01 |
| Tegu | have you played with devel-su? | 19:01 |
| TMavica | after i download it, my computer scan it is a linux virus file | 19:01 |
| TMavica | Tegu: yes | 19:01 |
| Sail0r | do you have a proper password set? | 19:02 |
| TMavica | no | 19:02 |
| TMavica | just 3 number | 19:02 |
| Tegu | linux virus file for which platform? | 19:02 |
| Sail0r | did you download eicar test virus? ^^ | 19:02 |
| TMavica | havent look.. | 19:02 |
| coderus | for sailfish :D | 19:02 |
| TMavica | linux virus as my computer said | 19:02 |
| TMavica | damn it | 19:02 |
| Sail0r | setting a three digit root pw | 19:02 |
| Sail0r | is a very good idea .... NOT | 19:02 |
| Sail0r | what does "file fuck" say? | 19:03 |
| Tegu | share it | 19:03 |
| Sail0r | what does md5sum fuck say | 19:03 |
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| TMavica | deleted it at once | 19:04 |
| Tegu | :< | 19:04 |
| Sail0r | -.- | 19:04 |
| Sail0r | so you have no copy? | 19:04 |
| Tegu | gg | 19:04 |
| TMavica | I saw it 2 times, after I deleted it, it come out again | 19:04 |
| Sail0r | why did you not make a copy? | 19:04 |
| fennekki | that sounds like some script is running 'touch fuck' as root | 19:04 |
| TMavica | then me try reboot my Jolla to see if it come out again | 19:04 |
| TMavica | my second times saw it | 19:05 |
| coderus | TMavica: installing random chinese software from openrepos? | 19:05 |
| Tegu | you said it's on your computer? | 19:05 |
| coderus | I never trusted these guys :D | 19:05 |
| TMavica | coderus: no | 19:05 |
| Acce | has the file any contents? | 19:05 |
| Tegu | or how else did you scan it. or did you just remove it afterwards | 19:05 |
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| TMavica | i download it from my Jolla, then my computer scanned it | 19:06 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: sounds like you should contact security@jolla.com | 19:06 |
| Tegu | I just tend to disable that SSH login (and thus the password as well?) when I'm not using it. | 19:06 |
| TMavica | ....................... | 19:07 |
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| TMavica | Stskeeps: dont you kidding me? LOL | 19:07 |
| Sail0r | maybe yyou should set a proper pw ... | 19:07 |
| ninnnu_ | I just want a copy of that file. | 19:07 |
| Sail0r | do you have a copy of the file on your pc | 19:07 |
| TMavica | if the filename is not "fuck", i wont notice it | 19:07 |
| Sail0r | when you say you downloaded it | 19:07 |
| Sail0r | maybe in the isolation folder of your av | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | TMavica: i'm not kidding you. | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | but anyway: a 3 letters ssh login isn't going to be good for anybody | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | anybody can log in if so | 19:08 |
| TMavica | before i got 8 digit, then i lazy, change to 3 | 19:09 |
| Tegu | also why is the SSH server still running after disabling it in the settings? | 19:09 |
| TMavica | i think nobody will hack me | 19:09 |
| Sail0r | only digits is no good pw anyway | 19:09 |
| Sail0r | and the jolla is a device placed on the internet | 19:09 |
| Sail0r | if a mobile provider assigns direct ips | 19:09 |
| ninnnu_ | I don't think the SSH-server listens mobile-interfaec | 19:10 |
| coderus | TMavica: install my ssh access notifier :D | 19:10 |
| coderus | or nieldk google two-factor authentication module :) | 19:10 |
| TMavica | I waiting the "fuck" virus come out | 19:10 |
| Tegu | did you reboot? | 19:11 |
| TMavica | ya | 19:11 |
| TMavica | not appear | 19:11 |
| Tegu | okay tried again, apparently the SSH it's not running now (I tried saving a password instead of generating a new one) | 19:12 |
| TMavica | To be honest, I ever used my Jolla to watch some porn site | 19:13 |
| Acce | did you download something from there | 19:14 |
| Acce | and run it? | 19:14 |
| Tegu | with root? eh | 19:14 |
| TMavica | you mean download the movie from there? | 19:14 |
| coderus | TMavica: you only can be hacked in public wifi places. | 19:14 |
| coderus | TMavica: and only suspicious packages can infect device | 19:15 |
| Sail0r | you should never pipe p0rn through bash :P | 19:15 |
| coderus | there is no known exploits or so | 19:15 |
| Acce | well if you just watched a movie, it could be something with the video player backend.. although what coderus says is more likely | 19:15 |
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| Tegu | some video player backed exploit would be kewl | 19:16 |
| TMavica | but if the virus keep come out. how to solve? | 19:16 |
| Tegu | but yea, a bit unlikely? | 19:16 |
| coderus | TMavica: so, just install ssh notifier or two factor authentication if using free wifi a lot, or disable ssh access when you doesn't need it | 19:16 |
| TMavica | coderus: ok | 19:16 |
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| coderus | TMavica: then you should post ps aux and systemd/systemd --user output to us to check active processes and autostart | 19:17 |
| Tegu | both because you still forget to disable it at times, probably | 19:17 |
| coderus | but yes, unlikely its a virus | 19:17 |
| Tegu | but a trojan, maybe? | 19:17 |
| Acce | or a prank | 19:17 |
| TMavica | Tegu: it said is virus not trojan | 19:18 |
| TMavica | there is a name, i forget.. | 19:18 |
| coderus | Tegu: thats why i'm asking about processes | 19:18 |
| Tegu | coderus: ah, yea | 19:18 |
| coderus | but unlikely too, as attacker wouldn't have a binary for sailfish, or it just a script | 19:18 |
| coderus | TMavica: your antivirus name? | 19:19 |
| coderus | and how you did checked your jolla with it o_O | 19:19 |
| TMavica | i cant use antivirus software to check Jolla | 19:19 |
| TMavica | but i can download that virus to my computer | 19:20 |
| ninnnu_ | coderus: He downloaded the file from Jolla and the AV scanned it on the fly, like AVs tend to do | 19:20 |
| TMavica | coderus: ssh access confirmation? | 19:20 |
| coderus | okay, so you was just hacked and hacker copied file to your jolla | 19:20 |
| coderus | you not infected | 19:20 |
| coderus | it just a file | 19:20 |
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| coderus | and it can't do anything with your super linux phone :) | 19:21 |
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| coderus | https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/ssh-access-confirmation | 19:21 |
| TMavica | maybe i use password 123, they easy go in | 19:22 |
| Acce | yes | 19:22 |
| Acce | that's first password anyone tries | 19:22 |
| TMavica | they are good, name the virus call "fuck" | 19:22 |
| Tegu | well it could be better hidden if it was some more serious stuff, I guess | 19:23 |
| TMavica | coderus: how disable ssh access in that? | 19:23 |
| coderus | TMavica: this is for confirmation, for disabling ssh you open devmode settings and disable ssh here | 19:24 |
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| TMavica | ok | 19:24 |
| coderus | just if you have ssh enabled use my application to confirm any access via ssh | 19:25 |
| coderus | this dialog prompt will appear for each connection and you can allow or deny it | 19:25 |
| TMavica | thanks | 19:25 |
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| TMavica | 1 more question. How to check the log if I got a autoreboot | 19:27 |
| coderus | what log? | 19:28 |
| TMavica | the reboot reason | 19:28 |
| kimmoli | cat /var/log/systemboot.log | 19:29 |
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| TMavica | thans | 19:30 |
| Tegu | I read season :D "oh no, the reboot season has begun! *cleans battery and applies more paper*" | 19:30 |
| kimmoli | Tegu: seems so | 19:30 |
| TMavica | Tegu: mine is not this problem | 19:30 |
| * Stskeeps rips out hair | 19:30 | |
| Acce | Stskeeps: take beer and keep calm | 19:32 |
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| kimmoli | i also had one reboot due battery, but i applied some more lubricant | 19:33 |
| coderus | both channels are on fire now :D | 19:34 |
| kimmoli | :) | 19:34 |
| kimmoli | i have a binary-blob (with sources) if someone wants to test? https://github.com/kimmoli/billybass/releases/tag/0.0.1 | 19:34 |
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| kimmoli | can be built on sdk, doesn't build on obs | 19:35 |
| coderus | kimmoli: you compiled espeak and did gui for it? | 19:39 |
| kimmoli | just testing | 19:39 |
| coderus | kimmoli: i'd like to see espeak package for jolla :) | 19:40 |
| coderus | or festival | 19:40 |
| kimmoli | espeak works after adding pulse policy | 19:41 |
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| TMavica | too night, time to sleep | 19:49 |
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