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| NickLeu | help! My jolla just got permanently locked in my pocket(somehow get waked and random typing cause this I guess); anyway now i'm in the recovery shell and is there a easy way to just "unlock" the phone without doing a reset? | 04:27 |
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| NickLeu | i got many photos on it i dont wanna lose them | 04:27 |
| Nicd- | from #sailfishos: 2015-04-28T21:04:17+0300 < spliffy> chem|st: here's a one liner to increment the maximum_attempts by a chosen value, no matter what the current value is: | 04:36 |
| Nicd- | 2015-04-28T21:04:22+0300 < spliffy> ATTEMPTS_INCREMENT=3 sed -i -r 's/nemo\\\devicelock\\\maximum_attempts=(.*)/echo nemo\\\\devicelock\\\\maximum_attempts=$(expr \1 + $ATTEMPTS_INCREMENT)/e' /usr/share/lipstick/devicelock/devicelock_settings.conf | 04:36 |
| Nicd- | guess you need to mount the right things to do that | 04:36 |
| NickLeu | mm sth on tjc i found might help | 04:37 |
| NickLeu | thx | 04:37 |
| NickLeu | https://together.jolla.com/question/91297/how-to-recover-from-permanent-device-lock/ | 04:43 |
| NickLeu | this work perfectly | 04:43 |
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| Sail0r | Hm wtf I have a new feature after boot and entering sim pin | 08:12 |
| Sail0r | the screen keeps loading | 08:12 |
| Sail0r | and turns black | 08:12 |
| Sail0r | for about 3mins no reaction from the phone | 08:12 |
| Sail0r | only stays black | 08:12 |
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| xfade_ | Sail0r: Did you run out of space? | 08:27 |
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| Sail0r | nope | 08:31 |
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| Sail0r | it runs just fine after the 3mins | 08:31 |
| Sail0r | and it does it every reboot | 08:31 |
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| CityLights1 | and I am back from Amsterdam | 08:32 |
| CityLights1 | any news? | 08:32 |
| Teme | amsterdam, such a cool place :) | 08:33 |
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| Teme | you live in NL? | 08:33 |
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| Joonaa | okay.. apparently im running out of space with 2.9/13.7gb used | 08:45 |
| Joonaa | what the hell? | 08:45 |
| Nicd- | what's your btrfs status? | 08:45 |
| Joonaa | how do i check | 08:46 |
| CityLights1 | Teme: No, I am from Tel aviv Israel | 08:50 |
| kimmoli | Joonaa: devel-su btrfs fi show | 08:51 |
| CityLights1 | latest update caused the Hebrew keyboard to have a missing space key | 08:51 |
| CityLights1 | I just know that jolla uses vkb files to describe the keyboard -right? | 08:52 |
| CityLights1 | was there a change to the vkb format? | 08:52 |
| TemeV | CityLights1: format changed a bit due to split keyboard | 08:52 |
| TemeV | there is qml files that describe the keyboard, missing space key should weird though | 08:53 |
| TemeV | *sounds weird | 08:53 |
| Joonaa | here's "btrfs fi show" https://www.dropbox.com/s/x9mkisnpmeyn0hk/btrfs.txt?dl=0 | 08:57 |
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| Nicd- | yeah, your btrfs is full or near full | 08:58 |
| Nicd- | balance could help | 08:58 |
| Nicd- | have you read the btrfs thread on TJC? | 08:58 |
| Joonaa | mm.. how do i clear it out | 08:58 |
| Joonaa | nope | 08:58 |
| Nicd- | read https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 08:58 |
| Joonaa | cheers | 08:58 |
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| CityLights1 | Nicd-: hi ,I am also using btrfs at my home server | 09:04 |
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| CityLights1 | I think I filled-up the filesystem again, which caused the server to fail to boot | 09:05 |
| CityLights1 | are there any effective way to avoid this using some GUI? | 09:05 |
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| CityLights1 | is the only option running some script to issue the CLI | 09:06 |
| CityLights1 | ? | 09:06 |
| Nicd- | I'm no btrfs expert. but maybe run btrfs fi show often and display the result somewhere, also balance regularly I think | 09:06 |
| zutto | CityLights1: best way to avoid that is to split them into different partitions on the server | 09:06 |
| zutto | / /var /home etc | 09:06 |
| Yaniel | no idea about your server (what kind of GUI is it even capable of) | 09:07 |
| Yaniel | to me servers are generally headless | 09:07 |
| CityLights1 | ubuntu, by defaults , creates a snapshot every time you install new software. | 09:07 |
| Nicd- | personally I'd like to try ZFS but it takes too much memory | 09:07 |
| zutto | Yaniel: you can forward the X session to another computer very easily | 09:07 |
| CityLights1 | Yaniel: so I should email when I reach90%? | 09:07 |
| Yaniel | CityLights1: none of us know a thing about your server so can't say | 09:08 |
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| Joonaa | balance helped, i hope | 09:16 |
| Joonaa | thanks | 09:16 |
| Morpog_PC | Nicd-, Joonaa since the latest opt-in upgrade there should be a regularily btrfs balance running | 09:17 |
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| Joonaa | .18? i dont have that | 09:17 |
| Morpog_PC | .18 and .19 | 09:19 |
| Morpog_PC | i check, second | 09:19 |
| Joonaa | mne is .16 | 09:21 |
| Joonaa | and no updates available | 09:21 |
| Morpog_PC | nope I was wrong, it's still not included :( | 09:21 |
| pp | opt in and you should get 1.1.4.29 | 09:21 |
| coderus | yeah, you need to opt-in in jolla account settings | 09:22 |
| Joonaa | lets see if i can find that | 09:23 |
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| Joonaa | apparently not | 09:25 |
| Joonaa | oh well | 09:25 |
| Nicd- | not on the device | 09:25 |
| Joonaa | ah | 09:25 |
| Nicd- | at https://account.jolla.com/ | 09:25 |
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| tore_ | my phone is stuck in a, I think, partially upgraded state | 09:59 |
| tore_ | there's a stuck notification saying there's a system update available for 1.1.4.28 | 09:59 |
| tore_ | the jolla store says it cannot be used while sailfish os is being updated | 10:00 |
| tore_ | but version --dup says everything is up to date (and I am on 1.1.4.28 afaict) | 10:00 |
| tore_ | any suggestions on how I might recover from this and move on to 1.1.4.29? | 10:01 |
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| coderus | tore_: yes, i need to find one | 10:03 |
| pp | "ssu re 1.1.4.28" maybe but it might eat kittens | 10:03 |
| tore_ | pp: trying, thanks. (I'm not a cat person, so I don't care) | 10:05 |
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| coderus | is there a way to view publications in this damn facebook by date??? | 10:06 |
| xfade_ | tore_: rm .cache/store-client/os-info to get store working again. ssu re 1.1.4.29; version --dup | 10:06 |
| xfade_ | tore_: to upgrade your partially upgraded os. | 10:06 |
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| tore_ | I upgraded with ssu re and version --dup, that worked. notification still stuck, trying to remove that cache file now.. | 10:07 |
| coderus | tore_: you need 1.1.4.29 anyway :) | 10:07 |
| xfade_ | yeah, that should be gone when you remove that file and check for updates again.. Make sure you close settings.. | 10:07 |
| Nicd- | why do people upgrade with version --dup? wasn't it discouraged at some point? | 10:08 |
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| tore_ | nicd, in my case the gui was also stuck and couldn't check for updates | 10:09 |
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| tore_ | wonderful | 10:10 |
| Nicd- | that's different of course :) | 10:10 |
| tore_ | thanks guys, it did the trick :) | 10:10 |
| temmi_foo | Nicd-: --because-the-option-is-there --force --really-force | 10:10 |
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| xfade_ | Nicd-: version --dup should be safe. Never use zypper though. | 10:12 |
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| * tore_ has never quite understood the relationship between zypper and pkcon | 10:12 | |
| tore_ | I don't even have zypper installed :) | 10:13 |
| tore_ | why do I want two package managers? | 10:13 |
| temmi_foo | because the vendor standard was NIH and someone wanted his own? | 10:13 |
| temmi_foo | just like the modern full stack this'n'that systems have their own package managers at multiple levels | 10:14 |
| temmi_foo | so once you go up the abstraction layers, you're installing stuff via os vendor manager, npm and several others | 10:14 |
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| IZh | The zypper is used widely in OpenSUSE. It's simple and convenient. | 10:16 |
| tore_ | is there any difference between "pkcon install foo" and "zypper install foo"? | 10:17 |
| tore_ | do they use a different set of repos etc? | 10:17 |
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| temmi_foo | IZh: yes and homebrew is widely used on macs, that doesn't make it any more sensible choice for sailfish | 10:18 |
| coderus | Nicd-: i'm always upgrading with version --dup to check which packages are updated and to what version to decide what patches i need to upgrade | 10:19 |
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| IZh | temmi_foo: never heard about pkcon. | 10:25 |
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| coderus | IZh: sailfish using pkcon cache, using zypper breaks sailfish packages cache | 10:26 |
| coderus | tore_: ^ | 10:26 |
| coderus | repos are same obviously | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | pkcon uses libzypp deep down. | 10:27 |
| Stskeeps | packagekit -> libzypp | 10:27 |
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| * tore_ gathers he should avoid using zypper | 10:30 | |
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| kimmoli | does version --dup mute userdefined repos? (just curious) | 10:31 |
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| Jope | it does not save your ass | 10:37 |
| Jope | the gui updater does some ass saving behind the scenes | 10:38 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: yes, but using zypper directly breaking pkcon packages cache, it known issue | 10:39 |
| coderus | kimmoli: there is ssu flags to make it working exactly as gui | 10:40 |
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| kimmoli | ok | 10:43 |
| kimmoli | --saveass=my | 10:44 |
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| coderus | ssu mode | 10:52 |
| coderus | but it not saving state (why?) | 10:52 |
| coderus | you need to set ssu mode to 16 before doung version --dup | 10:53 |
| coderus | to do repository isolation and so on | 10:53 |
| coderus | setting it in /etc/ssu/ssu.ini working, why it not working using ssu mode 16 command? | 10:54 |
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| HtheB | coderus, how can I revert back to original ofono version? | 12:57 |
| HtheB | seems like i got major problems with the 'more networks' patch | 12:57 |
| HtheB | i can't change network mode at all (it's grayed out) | 12:57 |
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| Shellkr | Have an issue I am not sure I know how to fix... I think it might be PatchManager and the Launcher Patch that created it. The device was acting a bit slow previous to that though... anyway. After i installed that I rebooted and when it started up it doesn't start the shell (lipstick?). I can get to notifications and it do react on thouch. I am thinking that removing the patch manually might be the best solution but | 13:14 |
| Shellkr | I can get into recovermy mode and mount rootfs.. | 13:15 |
| Nicd- | your first message was cut probably. "might be the best solution but" | 13:16 |
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| Shellkr | I am asking about the best solution to recover from this | 13:18 |
| Shellkr | Nicd-: Did you get the part prior that that? | 13:19 |
| Shellkr | to that* | 13:19 |
| Shellkr | I am thinking that lipstick is probably crashing because of the patchmanager.. | 13:20 |
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| coderus | HtheB: disable repo and reinstall ofono as usual | 13:20 |
| coderus | Shellkr: there is no patches which can affect phone to described behaviour | 13:21 |
| Shellkr | coderus: Is there a way to revert a patch in patchmanager manually? | 13:21 |
| coderus | Shellkr: yes, like any other patches: using patch command | 13:22 |
| Shellkr | can that be done from the recovery mode? | 13:22 |
| coderus | better check your btrfs status irst | 13:22 |
| Shellkr | How do i do that coderus ? | 13:23 |
| coderus | mount mmcblk0p28, cd to it and btrfs fi show | 13:24 |
| Shellkr | ok, cool | 13:24 |
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| Shellkr | coderus: I get this http://ix.io/ic0 | 13:27 |
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| HtheB | coderus: pkcon install ofono ? | 13:30 |
| coderus | HtheB: yes | 13:30 |
| HtheB | no luck.. still grayed out :/ | 13:30 |
| coderus | HtheB: did you rebooted? | 13:31 |
| HtheB | (i already tried that out) | 13:31 |
| HtheB | yeah | 13:31 |
| coderus | rpm -qa ofono | 13:31 |
| HtheB | let me try that | 13:31 |
| HtheB | ofono-1.14+git79-1.23.1.armv7hl | 13:32 |
| coderus | it still my versionyou did not reinstalled it | 13:32 |
| HtheB | is disabling the repo from warehouse not enough? | 13:33 |
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| Shellkr | coderus: The status looks okay, right? | 13:35 |
| coderus | check with ssu lr if it disabled | 13:35 |
| HtheB | alright, checking | 13:35 |
| coderus | Shellkr: check also btrfs fi df /mnt | 13:36 |
| Shellkr | from same dir? | 13:36 |
| coderus | Shellkr: obviously | 13:37 |
| Nicd- | Shellkr: yes, everything up to that part. was just showing the part after which it was cut | 13:37 |
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| Shellkr | Nicd-: Was just "..but not sure how." | 13:39 |
| Shellkr | coderus: http://ix.io/ic3 | 13:39 |
| Shellkr | Just errors | 13:39 |
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| coderus | where you mounted it? | 13:40 |
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| Shellkr | I mounted mmcblk0p28 to /mnt/rootfs | 13:40 |
| coderus | so do command at /mnt/rootfs | 13:41 |
| Shellkr | I did... tried both locations | 13:41 |
| coderus | btrfs fi df /mnt/rootfs | 13:42 |
| HtheB | coderus: i even tried to remove ofono and install again | 13:43 |
| HtheB | but i still end up with your version :/ | 13:43 |
| HtheB | (your repo was disabled) | 13:43 |
| coderus | what? rename? | 13:43 |
| coderus | do pkcon refresh first | 13:43 |
| Shellkr | coderus: Ofcourse... didn't think. It's not /mnt but mnt/ I should have done. http://ix.io/ic4 | 13:43 |
| coderus | seems okay anyway | 13:44 |
| Shellkr | yeah | 13:44 |
| HtheB | i did pkcon update, not the same command? | 13:44 |
| coderus | Shellkr: when booting and "crashing" any led blinking? | 13:44 |
| coderus | HtheB: of course not lol | 13:45 |
| coderus | pkcon refresh | 13:45 |
| HtheB | on dpkg it would refresh it :P | 13:45 |
| coderus | pkcon install ofono | 13:45 |
| HtheB | yeah, running that command now | 13:45 |
| HtheB | takes longer :D | 13:45 |
| Shellkr | coderus: No, everything is as it should... the only thing that I see is the background. Like if the lanucher is missing | 13:45 |
| Shellkr | so was thinking it was the Launcher patch that did something | 13:46 |
| coderus | Shellkr: so, you did upgrade before that failed? | 13:46 |
| Shellkr | no | 13:46 |
| coderus | so, what you did? | 13:46 |
| coderus | just boot and wait longer | 13:46 |
| Shellkr | just installed the patch | 13:46 |
| coderus | i had some slowness not so far in past | 13:46 |
| Shellkr | I have waited for 10min without anything happening | 13:46 |
| coderus | and just waited a bit | 13:47 |
| coderus | as i said patches can't break your system just in some day | 13:47 |
| coderus | its working or not working | 13:47 |
| Shellkr | ok | 13:47 |
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| HtheB | lol coderus, still the same :D | 13:51 |
| coderus | what the same? show install log | 13:51 |
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| HtheB | the same version if I do rom -qa ofono | 13:52 |
| HtheB | rpm | 13:52 |
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| coderus | HtheB: pkcon search name ofono | 13:55 |
| HtheB | coderus, if I do pkcon download, it shows me that there are 2 matches | 13:55 |
| HtheB | both the same, only one ends with .armv7hl, the other ends with .source | 13:55 |
| coderus | HtheB: ah sorry, ofono-1.14+git79-1.23.1.armv7hl is indeed original one | 13:56 |
| coderus | mine is ofono-1.14+git79-1.23.4.armv7hl | 13:57 |
| HtheB | lol :P | 13:57 |
| coderus | :D | 13:57 |
| coderus | so, your problem is sim/operator/hw, not the modded ofono | 13:58 |
| HtheB | hmm :/ | 13:58 |
| HtheB | it wasnt like this before, happened with the latest update | 13:59 |
| coderus | as i'm using exactly same ofono version, just modded network modes | 13:59 |
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| HtheB | is there a way to find out what the problem might be? | 14:00 |
| HtheB | (why its suddenly grayed out) | 14:01 |
| coderus | start with checking journal messages :) | 14:01 |
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| chem|st | HtheB: dpkg, apt is nothing like pkcon and be careful with shell when you mess up something like that already, pkcon does not do any sanity checks | 14:23 |
| chem|st | HtheB: maybe the modem is in limbo, have you tried with removing battery for 10min yet? (just finished reading the backlog) | 14:28 |
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| Fusl | i have a jolla phone that somehow has a locking mechanism | 14:32 |
| Fusl | i would like to reinstall it but can't because it asks me for that password | 14:32 |
| Fusl | neither can i enable ssh because i don't know the ssh passwort either | 14:32 |
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| coderus | Fusl: did you stolen somebody Jolla? | 14:35 |
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| Fusl | xD | 14:35 |
| Fusl | nah, it had some strange issue from beginning already | 14:35 |
| coderus | Fusl: contact care, confirm ownership of device and get support :) | 14:36 |
| coderus | if you don't know devicelock code and can't ssh to device then no way | 14:36 |
| coderus | only jolla care | 14:36 |
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| Fusl | really no other way? >_> | 14:38 |
| coderus | really | 14:39 |
| Mikaela | the password should be same as you use for devel-su | 14:39 |
| Fusl | Mikaela: i don't have ssh access | 14:39 |
| Mikaela | or was it screen-lock | 14:39 |
| Fusl | screen lock | 14:39 |
| Fusl | but it has no screen lock when i unlock it | 14:39 |
| chem|st | Fusl: the code required for reset is the device-lock-code, an at least 5 digit number | 14:41 |
| chem|st | Mikaela: screen-lock, root/nemo password has nothing to do with those | 14:42 |
| Fusl | now i crashed ssh daemon and can't start it anymore -.- | 14:42 |
| chem|st | Fusl: what are you trying to achieve? | 14:42 |
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| Fusl | login via ssh | 14:43 |
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| Fusl | because i've put my ssh pubkey in the ~/.ssh/ dir | 14:43 |
| chem|st | Fusl: endgame not what you try to get there | 14:44 |
| Fusl | now it even won't let me start ssh anymore -.-+ | 14:44 |
| chem|st | Fusl: what is the initial problem? | 14:44 |
| Fusl | i've never set a password lock on this device | 14:45 |
| Fusl | but it asks for one now | 14:45 |
| chem|st | where does it ask? | 14:45 |
| Fusl | reset device | 14:45 |
| Fusl | enabling development things | 14:45 |
| coderus | somebody set lockcode to your device then :) | 14:46 |
| chem|st | if you did not set it, did someone else maybe (kids friends siblings?) | 14:46 |
| chem|st | you cannot reset the device without it, you maybe remember it when I tell you that it is an at least 5 digit (numbers) code? | 14:48 |
| Fusl | nope | 14:49 |
| chem|st | Fusl: you can stop with attempting to "unlock" another way just so you know | 14:49 |
| Fusl | nothing | 14:49 |
| chem|st | did you maybe write another phones image to the phone? | 14:50 |
| Fusl | nope | 14:50 |
| coderus | Fusl: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us | 14:50 |
| chem|st | Fusl: then send it in - there is really no other way if you do not remember it and are sure you never set a device-lock-code | 14:51 |
| chem|st | Fusl: there is only ONE code btw, everything the same just different names for it | 14:51 |
| chem|st | and it is not the userpassword set in developer-settings! | 14:52 |
| coderus | there is a chance if you can ssh via wifi to it | 14:53 |
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| chem|st | coderus: how? | 14:53 |
| chem|st | you cannot reset it or change it | 14:54 |
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| Fusl | coderus: i have a terminal open | 14:54 |
| Fusl | but can't do devel-su | 14:54 |
| coderus | Fusl: do you have warehouse installed? | 14:54 |
| Fusl | nope | 14:54 |
| Fusl | i dont think so | 14:54 |
| coderus | mm sucks, for enabling installing untrusted packages you need to write devicelock i guess? | 14:55 |
| chem|st | yes | 14:55 |
| Fusl | but its enabled | 14:55 |
| coderus | Fusl: cool | 14:55 |
| coderus | wait some minutes please, i'll give you package | 14:56 |
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| coderus | Fusl: pm'ed you | 15:13 |
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| SQUelcher | 1 | 15:25 |
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| chem|st | coderus: how about sharing your knowledge? | 15:54 |
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| coderus | chem|st: it's not legal :) | 15:58 |
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| coderus | btw, Fusl disappeared :D | 15:58 |
| Shellkr | Does anyone have an original '/usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5/lockscreen/Lockscreen.qml' I can diff against? | 16:01 |
| coderus | Shellkr: sure | 16:05 |
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| coderus | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/94db2f8d15d82a87f813 | 16:06 |
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| Shellkr | great! thanks | 16:09 |
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| coderus | Shellkr: maybe you need just /usr/share/lipstick-jolla-home-qt5 folder? | 16:12 |
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| Shellkr | coderus: That is very likely... I checked the dates and two files where changed the 29th.. so want to see what changed in them. | 16:32 |
| coderus | Shellkr: https://www.dropbox.com/s/klsxevayntq037m/lipstick-1.1.4.29.zip?dl=0 | 16:35 |
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| Shellkr | awesome coderus! But I think I fixed it.. Commented out 'BatteryStatusBar' and now it starts as normal. http://a.pomf.se/xlhzla.png | 16:52 |
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| Sail0r | Apr 29 19:38:53 Jolla [1145]: Challenge produces CRASH! | 17:42 |
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| Sail0r | what does that mean? | 17:42 |
| Morpog_PC | Challenge accepted! | 17:43 |
| Stskeeps | O_o | 17:43 |
| Sail0r | why does my jolla participate in a challenge ! xD | 17:43 |
| Sail0r | maybe it's battling with the other jolla | 17:43 |
| Morpog_PC | It got a Barney Stinson personality it seems | 17:44 |
| Yaniel | a battle on the seven sea^Wfrequencies | 17:44 |
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| Stskeeps | http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/04/29/microsoft-brings-android-ios-apps-to-windows-10/ - curious | 17:45 |
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| Yaniel | \o/ linux-4.0.1-1 | 17:45 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | Stskeeps: I have seen this, very very interesting | 17:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | It seems (not sure) that they transpile code from Java / ObjC to WP | 17:50 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so basically, you get native apps (and experience ?) at the end | 17:50 |
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| coderus | Shellkr: lol, again this buggy patdch! | 17:56 |
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| Shellkr | coderus: Yeah, it didn't work sadly enough so I disabled it... and it was probably there it happened somehow. A good experience though... now I know how to do in case something else fail. I also want to take the moment to thank for all your submissions. You are someone who make my Jolla damn lot more fun to have. Thank you! ;) | 18:11 |
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| chem|st | coderus: why are you acting so strangely on tjc? | 18:42 |
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| coderus | chem|st: me not | 20:03 |
| coderus | chem|st: it's you | 20:03 |
| coderus | chem|st: seems i can't post my ideas in your question about same thing | 20:04 |
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| chem|st | coderus: explain what you mean please, I think we have soem kind of misunderstanding | 20:05 |
| chem|st | cause having "sailfish" set as process blocker is not what you meant, right? | 20:07 |
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| coderus | no, it what i mean | 20:18 |
| coderus | just you suggested something to prevennt somebody to guess your code | 20:18 |
| coderus | i just added something to prevent accidentally locking your phone | 20:18 |
| coderus | i'm not saying it's better and should be done instead your suggestion | 20:19 |
| coderus | it's for other purpose | 20:19 |
| coderus | i'm just very lazy to create my own topics, so i decided it's fun to have some suggestions about devicelock in one place | 20:19 |
| coderus | so, i was wrong | 20:20 |
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| HtheB | anyone like to help me out? | 20:51 |
| HtheB | how can I check logfiles for android apps? | 20:51 |
| HtheB | somehow, I cant run candy crush anymore after the latest early access update | 20:52 |
| HtheB | I also noted that PowerAmp does not work, does anyone has a working version for Jolla? | 20:52 |
| coderus | HtheB: check journalctl first | 20:53 |
| HtheB | ok, let me export journalctl | 20:53 |
| coderus | then sailfish logcat and then android logcat | 20:53 |
| coderus | HtheB: why you need android PowerAmp? | 20:54 |
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| HtheB | wanted to test something out | 20:54 |
| chem|st | coderus: lol, pocket-locking as is pocket-dialing are bugs - so you are just lazy, how about telling people to set "unlimited" instead of having a word setup in the first place?! | 20:54 |
| HtheB | nothing special | 20:54 |
| coderus | chem|st: why if you need to prevent accidental locking you should limit your privacy by setting unlimited count of attempts | 20:56 |
| chem|st | coderus: if you have a word preset that is basically unlimited attempts | 20:57 |
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| chem|st | it just slows the script by 1/n steps | 20:58 |
| HtheB | coderus: how can i clear the journal ? | 20:59 |
| HtheB | just reboot? | 20:59 |
| chem|st | HtheB: you do not need to clear the journal, journal output is highly configurable | 21:00 |
| chem|st | but yes, without persistent logs you only have since last boot | 21:00 |
| HtheB | it has TOO many information | 21:00 |
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| HtheB | alright | 21:00 |
| chem|st | HtheB: journalctl --since 18:00 | 21:00 |
| coderus | chem|st: i'm sorry, wtf in your head? | 21:00 |
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| coderus | unlimited attempts for entering "sailfish" word instead of lock code, yes | 21:01 |
| coderus | but not for devicelock code | 21:02 |
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| chem|st | coderus: that is unclear from what you wrote on tjc, what I understood is nAttempts "sailfish" nAttempts "sailish" nAttempts | 21:03 |
| chem|st | and so on | 21:03 |
| coderus | nevermind | 21:03 |
| coderus | forget | 21:03 |
| coderus | i didn't wrote anything | 21:03 |
| chem|st | so that is basically nAttempts=unlimited | 21:04 |
| coderus | think as you want | 21:04 |
| coderus | if you still don't understand | 21:04 |
| HtheB | coderus: I found some error messages about ofono | 21:04 |
| coderus | i don't want to try to explain it more | 21:04 |
| chem|st | coderus: you are even too lazy to explain it properly... | 21:05 |
| coderus | HtheB: i don't care, send them to #nemomobile | 21:05 |
| coderus | chem|st: yes | 21:05 |
| coderus | for those who don't want to understand | 21:05 |
| chem|st | ? | 21:05 |
| HtheB | tigeli: ping? | 21:05 |
| coderus | chem|st: get BB10 device in your hands and look what i'm talking about | 21:06 |
| coderus | or watch some videos on youtube, there are many | 21:06 |
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| chem|st | coderus: you cannot talk about other devices people do not have | 21:06 |
| chem|st | you say "after each %N wrong attempts ask to enter "sailfish" instead of lock code to proceed" and that is "have unlimited attempts on lock-code if you know that you need to enter 'sailfish'" | 21:07 |
| coderus | sure, because of that i'm suggesting you to watch youtube | 21:07 |
| coderus | chem|st: you still have limited number of attempts to enter devicelock code | 21:08 |
| chem|st | coderus: and you don't understand that anyone without BB10 knowledge does understand it exactly that way - other people are lazy just as you are | 21:08 |
| coderus | chem|st: i don't care anymore | 21:08 |
| coderus | i see that anyone dont care | 21:08 |
| coderus | verybody asking why i'm so unfriendly | 21:09 |
| coderus | because nobody care | 21:09 |
| coderus | everybody* | 21:09 |
| chem|st | I care or I would not keep this discussion alive with you! | 21:09 |
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| coderus | so, you understant what i mean or not? | 21:11 |
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| HtheB | anyone from Jolla care over here? :) | 21:15 |
| chem|st | coderus: I try to but everything I found on BB is just the same, even the BB website does say something else - you said there are lots of youtube videos about it, all lockscreen and password videos I found do either not show unlocking or use picture lock | 21:21 |
| chem|st | BB website says 10 tries then you need to contact your service provider | 21:23 |
| chem|st | that is for BB10.2 | 21:25 |
| coderus | chem|st: you have limited number of attempts, if you enter code wrong 5 times device witll be blocked, understand this? | 21:26 |
| chem|st | yes | 21:27 |
| coderus | chem|st: you carrying phone in your pocket, and it can accidentally block your device, understand? | 21:28 |
| chem|st | yes | 21:28 |
| chem|st | (you could simply tell what happens after entering "sailfish"...) | 21:29 |
| coderus | to prevent blocking it in your pocket you need to enter "sailfish" to continue entering lock code | 21:29 |
| coderus | after 3rd wrong attenpt devicelock ui will ask you to enter "sailfish" to continue | 21:30 |
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| chem|st | yes | 21:31 |
| coderus | yay, finally | 21:31 |
| chem|st | coderus: nope | 21:31 |
| coderus | nope? :D | 21:31 |
| chem|st | what happens after saiflish? | 21:32 |
| chem|st | that is what people do not understand, I now get what you mean but that is kind a cryptic | 21:32 |
| coderus | you can try entering your devicelock again. "sailfish" is like captcha | 21:32 |
| chem|st | you only prevent to enter the code again by making sure it is not buttlocked, but still after 15 tries it is permanently locked | 21:33 |
| coderus | yes | 21:33 |
| chem|st | and that needs to be in your answer :) | 21:33 |
| coderus | it just to prevent it to lock accidentally in your pocket | 21:33 |
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| chem|st | what I and I guess some others understand is, you set nAttempts and after each set you need to type "sailfsh" to proceed... endlessly | 21:34 |
| coderus | why the hell endlessly? | 21:34 |
| chem|st | that is why we said it is the same as "unlimited" | 21:34 |
| chem|st | because you did not say so in your answer | 21:35 |
| coderus | i did not said it because i did not meant it | 21:35 |
| chem|st | you just said, after being noted, "its not the same" | 21:35 |
| coderus | i have no idea why peoples guess something i did not said | 21:36 |
| chem|st | because you did not say otherwise | 21:36 |
| chem|st | simple as that | 21:36 |
| coderus | lol | 21:36 |
| coderus | i have no idea what happening in peoples mind :D | 21:36 |
| chem|st | "and proceed" proceed with what? another nAttempts? | 21:36 |
| coderus | :D | 21:37 |
| coderus | you understand what "sailfish" trick mean? | 21:37 |
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| chem|st | yes I do, I commented what I understood on tjc :) | 21:42 |
| coderus | chem|st: really? i just removed my answer :D | 21:43 |
| IZh | "Sailfish" sounds like "selfish". Is it intentional? :-) | 21:47 |
| chem|st | coderus: lol, ok should I set you up with a separate anti-butt-permanent-lock tjc or will you do it yourself as it is a good idea :) | 21:48 |
| chem|st | IZh: depends where you are at, in west yorkshire it is pretty sure not even close to the same | 21:48 |
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| IZh | chem|st: Agree. | 21:50 |
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| coderus | chem|st: i know nobody will implement it in sailfish :) | 21:56 |
| coderus | things are not changing in two years | 21:56 |
| coderus | peoples have a lot of good ideas, check tjc, and check percentage of implemented ideas | 21:57 |
| coderus | everybody should have own OS | 21:57 |
| coderus | thats why we have patchmanager | 21:57 |
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| Anonyneko | Is patchmanager sort of like xposed? | 22:01 |
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| tigeli | HtheB: pong | 22:05 |
| HtheB | tigeli: I have some major problems :( | 22:06 |
| HtheB | I wish you could help me again, like you've fixed the wifi problems that i had | 22:06 |
| tigeli | HtheB: what kind of problems | 22:06 |
| HtheB | problem that I have is: | 22:06 |
| HtheB | grayed out Network modes | 22:06 |
| HtheB | I cant change network modes :( It's stuck at 4G, so I cant receive calls at all | 22:07 |
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| tigeli | hmph.. | 22:07 |
| HtheB | it reverts back to 3G if I call, but not when I receive a call :P | 22:07 |
| HtheB | I also have problems with alien :( | 22:08 |
| HtheB | I have seen a lot of errors on the journal | 22:08 |
| HtheB | some games wont start at all anymore, im sure it has to do with that alien erros | 22:08 |
| HtheB | errors* | 22:08 |
| tigeli | HtheB: as a sidenote some network do not support fallbacking to 2G, but only to 3G from LTE | 22:09 |
| tigeli | HtheB: but no menu when you press the network modes? | 22:09 |
| sakustar | oo https://www.visualstudio.com/products/code-vs | 22:09 |
| HtheB | no, it's totally grayed out | 22:09 |
| HtheB | i have errors on ofono | 22:09 |
| HtheB | check out your query | 22:09 |
| HtheB | i've sent a link with the journal | 22:10 |
| tigeli | yeah, noticed | 22:11 |
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| chem|st | coderus: true for now... | 22:18 |
| sakustar | noo, why is VS code so much like sublime but no ctrl+d | 22:19 |
| sakustar | :D | 22:19 |
| Anonyneko | probably because it's https://twitter.com/omnisharp/status/593527970897088512 | 22:20 |
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| HtheB | coderus: it's fixed, thanks to tigeli | 22:36 |
| HtheB | this command fixed it: | 22:36 |
| HtheB | dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0 org.ofono.RadioSettings.SetProperty string:"TechnologyPreference" variant:string:"any" | 22:36 |
| coderus | it will be better to know which one is was set to make it unresponsive :) | 22:38 |
| HtheB | it might be because I didnt disable the patch before upgrading from .28 to .29 | 22:40 |
| HtheB | anyway, glad thats over :D | 22:41 |
| HtheB | i hope that he could also help me to fix the android issues | 22:41 |
| HtheB | maybe Jolla could add some message | 22:41 |
| HtheB | like: IF Patchmanager is installed > then (output message: "Please do not forget to disable all patches before continue." > Continue? "Yes/No") else > Upgrade Jolla | 22:44 |
| HtheB | this would prevent a lot of troubles like I have them :p | 22:44 |
| coderus | jolla doesn't care about it | 22:45 |
| coderus | it should do patchmanager itself | 22:45 |
| coderus | release announcement have this | 22:45 |
| HtheB | coderus: i wish SfietKonstantinW could implement it then :( | 22:45 |
| coderus | yeah | 22:46 |
| HtheB | because it's a pain in the *ss | 22:46 |
| HtheB | I didnt know that upgrading from .28 to .29 would still f*ck things up so badly | 22:46 |
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| sakustar | Anonyneko: maybe | 22:50 |
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| coderus | HtheB: you should unapply patches before each update | 22:54 |
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| HtheB | coderus: yeah :P i've learned my lesson | 23:04 |
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