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| lazy_bum | It seems that Jolla changed time. When I set alarm yesterday it counted without the "missing" hour. | 06:05 |
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| Stskeeps | yeah, at least it woke me up at the right time | 06:07 |
| Stskeeps | it sometimes depends on what timezone you're in and if your mobile network is feeding you bad information | 06:08 |
| Stskeeps | timezone/location | 06:08 |
| ninnnu | I didn't even pay attention to the counter | 06:08 |
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| Madman1die | hy, anybofy familiar with the Facebook integration? | 07:27 |
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| Nokius | Who remember the name for the test-appliaction to test the screen, ... on the Jolla | 08:47 |
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| Sail0r | Nokius: csd tool? | 08:49 |
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| Sail0r | just type csd in terminal | 08:50 |
| Nokius | Sail0r: yes thanks was only remembering c** | 08:50 |
| Sail0r | :) | 08:50 |
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| coderus | *#*#310#*#* | 08:53 |
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| mornfall | eh, my jolla is behaving really weirdly... and it's becoming very slow | 10:14 |
| mornfall | right now I ended up with app cards showing up on the lock screen | 10:14 |
| mornfall | oh and they also show up in the launcher | 10:15 |
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| raa700 | soo btrfs balance? | 10:17 |
| mornfall | what about it? | 10:17 |
| coderus | mornfall: read this one: https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 10:19 |
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| mornfall | well, brtfs is a pretty crappy filesystem, but I don't think it's at fault here | 10:21 |
| mornfall | although... well, I'll check | 10:21 |
| mornfall | if the phone boots | 10:21 |
| mornfall | (it's also taking forever to reboot these days) | 10:21 |
| Mikaela | I wouldn't say crappy, but very experimental and probably not so production ready | 10:22 |
| Mikaela | On Jolla I have only encountered the balancing issue, but on laptop I always have to run btrfs check --repair /dev/sda? if the battery happens to run out (and laptop is confused on what the battery status actually is :() | 10:23 |
| mornfall | it was supposed to be production ready more than 5 years ago | 10:23 |
| mornfall | so I say it's crappy if it can't be debugged to usable state 5 years after the original estimate | 10:23 |
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| mornfall | oh indeed, seems that btrfs *is* at fault here... even though I never even hit 50% usage | 10:26 |
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| mornfall | so this is something that *everyone* will start hitting soon, and factory reset doesn't help | 10:31 |
| mornfall | I hope jolla understands that the next update is probably going to kill all phones that didn't have a balance done on them | 10:33 |
| entil | how would we know if that's happened? | 10:33 |
| entil | stskeeps can add a rebalance to the beginning of the update ;P | 10:33 |
| Mikaela | from what I understood, the next upgrade will bring automatic balancing | 10:34 |
| mornfall | well, it better rebalance *before* the update because it probably won't finish otherwise | 10:34 |
| Mikaela | entil: how do you know that you need balancing? There are instructions for checking the need at https://together.jolla.com/question/30822/root-and-home-disks-full-and-causing-various-problems/ | 10:34 |
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| mornfall | I only did a couple photos and recordings on the main memory, and besides that only software updates | 10:34 |
| entil | I very much doubt jolla will screw this up | 10:34 |
| Mikaela | if I understood correctly, there will also be automatic balancing when you start the upgrade | 10:35 |
| Mikaela | but I am not sure if that is the next upgrade or the following upgrade | 10:35 |
| mornfall | well I hope the current iteration rebalances before downloading | 10:35 |
| mornfall | (the next update that is) | 10:35 |
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| entil | btrfs fi show says ERROR: unable get label Inappropriate ioctl for device :D | 10:38 |
| mornfall | I hope the tablet will use ext4... :| | 10:39 |
| entil | but 13.75GiB used, "When 'btrfs fi show' command shows 13.75GB used of 13.75GB for 'devid 1' (see example below), new chunks cannot be allocated anymore and the random problems begin. Depending on what, when and where is written, write either succeeds or doesn't." | 10:39 |
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| entil | so apparently I do need to rebalance, then | 10:39 |
| entil | no, I'm reading this wrong, used is 10.75 | 10:40 |
| entil | so I'm ok for three more gigs | 10:40 |
| Nicd- | entil: the ioctl error is normal | 10:41 |
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| mornfall | I'm not sure the future of btrfs is exactly bright, given it's a ZFS knockoff and Oracle bought ZFS in the meantime along with the rest of Sun. | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | i much prefer zfs over btrfs | 10:43 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:43 |
| mornfall | well, I wouldn't really put ZFS on a phone either :P | 10:44 |
| Stskeeps | me neither | 10:44 |
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| entil | Stskeeps: will the tablet be using btrfs? | 10:44 |
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| entil | ie. is there a reason to be running btrfs on mobile devices? like does it survive power outages particularly well compared to ext4? | 10:45 |
| mornfall | it survives power outages particularly poorly | 10:45 |
| Stskeeps | entil: i don't think so | 10:45 |
| mornfall | the tempting features are snapshots and subvolumes, I suppose | 10:45 |
| mornfall | (maybe encryption, compression, if those work at all yet) | 10:45 |
| entil | I kinda wonder what's so tempting about those on a phone ;P snapshots are supposed to be replaced by a cloud service that gets all your backupable data as it hits the disk on the phone | 10:46 |
| mornfall | entil: I think the idea with snapshots is that you snapshot before upgrading and can roll back „for free“ (*if* it works) | 10:46 |
| Lieke | lvm can do snapshots too though | 10:46 |
| entil | Stskeeps: I have no real opinion, but it sounds like btrfs is causing issues so the safe bet would probably be to not do it | 10:47 |
| mornfall | Lieke: not equivalent (those that have features to support those scenarios are experimental in LVM too) | 10:47 |
| mornfall | but I don't think the upgrade rollback option with btrfs is robust enough to justify its own existence | 10:48 |
| Stskeeps | some of these things you often find out when it's too late | 10:49 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:49 |
| mornfall | if your rollback mechanism breaks your system more often than the upgrades themselves, well :) | 10:49 |
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| mornfall | actually, I'd totally reformat my phone to ext4 if I was given the option :-) I think a clean start is in order anyway | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | well, is theoretically possible to do on your own | 10:50 |
| Stskeeps | if you have a microsd to offload onto | 10:50 |
| mornfall | yeah, but I don't really want to end up in a completely unsupported situation | 10:51 |
| mornfall | also, no serial access, so duh | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | live life dangerous | 10:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 10:51 |
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| mornfall | I already do by using a jolla phone :P that's bleeding edge enough for me | 10:52 |
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| Stskeeps | i use jolla development branch on my phone.. it certainly is interesting at times | 10:53 |
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| mornfall | hm, even after -dusage=66, btrfs is eating 3G of extra space for itself | 10:56 |
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| Yaniel | Stskeeps: well you *do* have serial access or the like... | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | i do | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | it's been ages since i last used it | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:11 |
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| Yaniel | but it is there | 11:42 |
| Yaniel | which gives a lot peace of mind when experimenting | 11:43 |
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| juhaj | Is it normal for Jolla to ship its phones to a country X (UK in this case) but only supply country Y (EU in this case) AC plug? | 12:26 |
| stephg | juhaj: yep | 12:26 |
| juhaj | They only ever ship EU plugs? | 12:26 |
| stephg | think so | 12:27 |
| juhaj | That's user-friendly | 12:27 |
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| phlixi | they skipped the earplugs, i wonder why they ship a powersupply... | 12:27 |
| stephg | meh, not particularly fussed in either case personally | 12:28 |
| juhaj | But then, again, the experience with jolla has been so utterly disgusting all around that I am not surprised at all. And yes, I still want the phone and I still want the company to succeed but they REALLY need to improve their customer service. | 12:28 |
| juhaj | I've got dozens of EU adapters in the house (most of them in use though) so I don't particularly mind, but the average buyer would, even if jolla only ever targeted geeks | 12:29 |
| entil | it's probably stated somewhere that it comes with EU only | 12:30 |
| stephg | well it's USB so anything would do and to be frank TJC isn't exactly overrun with disgruntled .ukians complaining about the lack of power :P | 12:30 |
| juhaj | The kind of service (not sending the voucher code for three weeks despite several requests to the support that they do so; useless order tracking webside which said "in picking" the whole time from placing the order till a day after I had the phone – at the very least they could have provided a fedex/dhl/ups/whatever tracking code; and now the plug) | 12:31 |
| r0kk3rz | juhaj: be interesting to see what the tablet ships with, the jolla phone 1 was never really targeted at anyone other than early-adopters/geek types | 12:31 |
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| entil | I wonder if even that is true, that it's targeted at geeks | 12:31 |
| entil | in finland it was released as beta and that stigmatized it for a while, but I think even that's fading by now | 12:32 |
| stephg | juhaj: I got tracking codes when shipped to the UK, lots of people did iirc | 12:32 |
| entil | wives and girlfriends are buying jolla | 12:32 |
| juhaj | r0kk3rz: Indeed. But as I said, the signs for non-geek-die-hard-fanatics are not promising – and that is what worries me | 12:32 |
| juhaj | entil: This is a wife's phone in fact | 12:32 |
| r0kk3rz | juhaj: and what im saying, is that the jphone1 isnt perhaps not the best example | 12:33 |
| entil | the missus had to wait a long time for her phone as well, jolla gave her an estimate on delivery and it took like a week longer, and she wasn't particularly happy about that but she wasn't using words like "disgusting" and "not surprised" either | 12:33 |
| r0kk3rz | *is perhaps not the best example | 12:33 |
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| juhaj | I want jolla to succeed but they don't have the signs of something that anyone but a geek would want to buy from | 12:33 |
| entil | there are geek shortcuts though, like hearing rumors on irc that jolla sold out their stocks and have to restock, so I could toss that in her direction | 12:34 |
| juhaj | r0kk3rz: None of this is phone1 related: it's customer service. I don't believe their customer service is separate for separate products | 12:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | well, the AC adapter is | 12:35 |
| juhaj | I hope jolla has someone hanging around here and taking notes ;) | 12:35 |
| entil | juhaj: and you politely told jolla that whoever's in charge of logistics should ensure the shipping info is updated properly? | 12:35 |
| juhaj | r0kk3rz: Well, yes, sort of | 12:35 |
| entil | hoping for someone to take notes of irc is probably the shittiest thing to do | 12:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | the rest is dependent on order load | 12:35 |
| entil | *off | 12:35 |
| r0kk3rz | i got my phone quick and easy, painless process | 12:36 |
| r0kk3rz | but ymmv of course | 12:36 |
| entil | ranting on irc is the least helpful thing anyway :P | 12:36 |
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| juhaj | entil: their customer support channel itself is so disgusting that I cannot be arsed. We'll see how the tablet or the second phone (probably ordering that next month) goes if it improves | 12:37 |
| r0kk3rz | the ac adapter is part of the SKU, and that whole process is likely to be completely outsourced | 12:37 |
| entil | but being literate is more helpful, and so follows a reading from the page of shop.jolla.com "EU adapter (UK adapter not included)" | 12:37 |
| juhaj | entil: Ranting on irc is the best way of finding out if there is reason to rant. Like it seems there isn't in the case of the AC plug and probably not even the shipping info as others had had it ok. And the first problem O obviously contacted them about already | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | i guess its not great if you're coming from an n9 or such, but anyone coming from a recentish android phone is going to have an ac adapter already | 12:38 |
| r0kk3rz | im using an aus-plug samsung one | 12:38 |
| juhaj | r0kk3rz: N9 is mircousb, so any n9er would have the plug, too | 12:39 |
| r0kk3rz | oh is it? my bad | 12:39 |
| entil | juhaj: I'm not going to make excuses about shipping ids, that sounds like something they should respoond to when asked ("sorry, we fucked up!" or "the post office's fault") | 12:39 |
| entil | juhaj: but if you really are concerned about this thing, you swallow your disgust and contact jolla | 12:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | tablet launch is a known factor so you would expect that they would be able to get everyones shipped smoothly | 12:51 |
| r0kk3rz | jphone orders is a little different, they dont want to have lots of money locked up in stock | 12:52 |
| r0kk3rz | and people can order at any time | 12:52 |
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| mornfall | of course people call me while btrfs balance is still running | 13:09 |
| ln- | "the person you are trying to reach is balancing btrfs at the moment, please hold" | 13:10 |
| mornfall | and now it finishes, pff | 13:11 |
| mornfall | anyway | 13:11 |
| mornfall | it's still tying up 2.5G for no reason at all, after a full rebalance | 13:11 |
| mornfall | so out of the 16G of advertised storage I can use what, 6? | 13:13 |
| mornfall | (my $HOME is 4.3G now and btrfs fi says there's about 2.5G left... so I guess that's 7G total) | 13:14 |
| mornfall | also, f- off indiegogo I don't want to upgrade anything... *sigh* | 13:16 |
| r0kk3rz | ive used 4.5gb of home, and btrfs fi says i have 4.6gb left | 13:18 |
| mornfall | that's still a bit short I guess, but workable | 13:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah 9gb is a bit less than 16 | 13:19 |
| mornfall | I wish I could plug in an SD card that'd run on eMMC speeds | 13:19 |
| mornfall | r0kk3rz: well, I can live with a couple GB for the OS | 13:19 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 13:19 |
| mornfall | but yeah I'd expect 12G for the user at least | 13:20 |
| r0kk3rz | i do wonder if they've used btrfs compression or not | 13:20 |
| r0kk3rz | or whether thats possible | 13:20 |
| mornfall | I hope not | 13:20 |
| mornfall | because I don't think it works | 13:20 |
| mornfall | not on the wreck of a kernel jolla runs anyway | 13:20 |
| r0kk3rz | we are running an old version of btrfs i suppose | 13:21 |
| r0kk3rz | forget who i was talking to, but someone said it makes a nice difference on their desktop machine | 13:21 |
| mornfall | I guess that depends on how fast your CPU is | 13:21 |
| mornfall | compared to your IO | 13:22 |
| mornfall | if they use a spinning drive, then compression is going to be a win-win | 13:22 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats true | 13:22 |
| mornfall | on a sluggish arm with flash storage, it may hurt a lot | 13:23 |
| mornfall | (although compression for the sdcard would be probably a net win, for compressible data at least) | 13:24 |
| mornfall | (too bad I mostly keep compressed media on it) | 13:24 |
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| SQUelcher | oh, another tablet spam mail :> | 13:27 |
| M4rtinK | I think you should be able to check if compression is enabled with the btrfs tools | 13:28 |
| M4rtinK | but I don't think it is | 13:28 |
| mornfall | M4rtinK: I think if you try to enable it, the phone will just explode. :D | 13:28 |
| M4rtinK | yep, with btrfs this outcome is quite plausible :) | 13:29 |
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| catern | hey, does anyone know if the Jolla tablet is going to be using an Android kernel? that is, an out of date kernel? | 15:07 |
| catern | this determines whether I buy it or not: whether or not I can use the latest kernel on it | 15:07 |
| falfa | i wonder, what do you need a specific kernel for? | 15:09 |
| catern | kernel hacking :) | 15:09 |
| catern | so I don't need a specific kernel, I need the latest kernel that I've compiled myself :) | 15:10 |
| falfa | im not sure jolla uses any android kernel | 15:11 |
| falfa | android uses android kernels | 15:11 |
| catern | the phone uses Android kernels for hardware compatibility | 15:11 |
| falfa | not entirely true it seems | 15:13 |
| falfa | https://together.jolla.com/question/66020/android-kernel/ | 15:13 |
| catern | okay, an Android kernel version | 15:14 |
| catern | still a problem | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | sources are available | 15:15 |
| r0kk3rz | you can compile it yourself | 15:15 |
| catern | you know 3.4 is three years old now? | 15:17 |
| catern | anyway | 15:17 |
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| catern | I'll wait till someone who actually knows can answer | 15:17 |
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| entil | if you're a kernel dev, and they ship an older kernel, maybe you can participate in upgrading it? | 15:17 |
| catern | no, because the reason that an older kernel is shipped is for compatibility with proprietary drivers | 15:18 |
| catern | which I'd rather not reverse engineer | 15:18 |
| catern | and reimplement | 15:18 |
| catern | proprietary Android drivers for the hardware, that is | 15:19 |
| entil | I just patched the -ck kernel on my nas-like openelec raspberry pi, it was very straightforward, but from what I've read kernel hacking on sailfish isn't trivial anyway | 15:20 |
| entil | it would help to have a build.sh script that does it all :D | 15:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | catern: stskeeps is your man if you want an official answer from jolla on the matter | 15:26 |
| r0kk3rz | but yes, afaik its an android kernel, because thats all you get from ODMs these days | 15:26 |
| r0kk3rz | otherwise yes, you need to reverse engineer all the proprietary drivers, which is lots of effort | 15:27 |
| catern | r0kk3rz: do you have any specific knowledge about this? because, it's Intel, which changes the situation a bit | 15:27 |
| catern | well | 15:28 |
| catern | Stskeeps: what's the kernel version on the Jolla Tablet? :) | 15:28 |
| entil | https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-hardware-adaptation-team-day-zero-bootstrapping/ | 15:29 |
| entil | what strikes me odd in that post is "First thing we discovered as we rummaged through the device was that it has a 64-bit Linux kernel and a 32-bit software stack (userland)." | 15:31 |
| r0kk3rz | catern: yeah its intel, but afaik its still using hybris, which means android kernel | 15:31 |
| entil | not even that is known in advance? | 15:31 |
| r0kk3rz | there might even be some alien-dalvik stuff that requires it, but im not 100% sure how dalvik works | 15:32 |
| catern | entil: that makes sense, Dalvik is probably the limiting factor there | 15:32 |
| entil | "This means that we have to use Sailfish OS for 32-bit X86, which it is already ported. You cannot mix 32 bit and 64 bit code in same process." so jolla is forced to use some kind of userland stuff because of android? | 15:33 |
| entil | usually drivers are in the kernel and that would be ok | 15:33 |
| entil | to use a 64-bit userland | 15:33 |
| tiwake | I don't really like android | 15:34 |
| tiwake | (but who here does? :) | 15:34 |
| catern | hm, so this is bad news, but it still could be okay | 15:34 |
| catern | because Intel graphics drivers are open which is the major thing anyway | 15:35 |
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| catern | so maybe the Bluetooth drivers are proprietary or something and so they need to use an Android kernel for that, but I don't really care about Bluetooth (well, I do, but I can give it up) | 15:35 |
| entil | it's apparently the way of the world, it's just weird that there are such strong userland ties to the kernel that jolla has to go 32-bit | 15:35 |
| entil | on the other hand, it's a tablet (and a phone) so who cares as long as it does its job, and is open and hackable | 15:37 |
| entil | that's lightyears ahead of the competition | 15:37 |
| ortylp | entil: I do not know, if they are forced to go 32bit, but from my experience on a machine with that little amount of RAM I would not want to waste it on 64bit pointers. I have already seen applications, that in 64 bit consume twice as much memory! | 15:38 |
| catern | so, I'm still curious what Stskeeps has to say about this, then | 15:39 |
| tiwake | not quite use twice as much memory | 15:39 |
| entil | the text I copypasted off the blog says "we have to use" | 15:39 |
| entil | and I'm ok with not wasting memory on pointers | 15:39 |
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| tiwake | but yeah, and the compiled binaries are larger too | 15:39 |
| entil | I'm just surprised that the android thing runs so deep that it somehow affects userland | 15:39 |
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| ortylp | tiwake: yes, it depends on the specific case, but I have seen it in real life, and then convincing managers, that our clients need to upgrade their 10-year hardware if they want even think of 64bit binaries.... | 15:41 |
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| tiwake | heh | 15:46 |
| tiwake | ortylp: people really have no clue about software, hardware, and why certain ways of doing things are far superior... sometimes I want to claw my eyes out | 15:47 |
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| tiwake | ortylp: thats what I like about jolla, they actually do know, and not commanded by people who don't :) | 15:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | nothing wrong with not knowing about these things, so long as you realise it and defer to people who do | 15:51 |
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| entil | is it a btrfs thing if the messaging app takes forever to start?-) | 16:54 |
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| entil | figuratively of course | 16:54 |
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| CosmicDuck_ | Hi there, I have problems to mount a ext3 formatted 32 GB sd card. The card had to been formatted on my linux machine without any problems. I put mp3 and ogg files on them but the jolla cannot find the fs on partition 1. I tried to fsck the sdcard part 1. Now I reformatted the sdcard p1 again with my jolla but mounting is still not working. fsck looking good now. Any idea whats happened? | 18:56 |
| stephg | CosmicDuck_: that should just work | 18:56 |
| stephg | so you have a partition or did you just create the filesystem on the whole device? | 18:57 |
| CosmicDuck_ | Where can I found logs for the mounting parts? I tried to mount with mount-sd.sh add /dev/mmcblk1p1 but mount |grep mmcblk1 shows nothing. | 18:57 |
| CosmicDuck_ | Ah ok. I can do it on the whole device. No problem. | 18:57 |
| stephg | no wiat | 18:58 |
| stephg | wait | 18:58 |
| stephg | not sure if it'll be detected if you do that | 18:58 |
| stephg | what does blkid /dev/mmcblk1 /dev/mmcblk1p1 show? | 18:58 |
| M4rtinK | CosmicDuck_: try journalctl -b | grep /dev/mmc | 18:59 |
| M4rtinK | as root | 18:59 |
| CosmicDuck_ | /dev/mmcblk1: PTTYPE="dos" | 19:00 |
| CosmicDuck_ | /dev/mmcblk1p1: LABEL="JollaSD32GB" UUID="e9755ba9-bd4a-4e05-92a7-8877268b6f3c" SEC_TYPE="ext2" TYPE="ext3" | 19:00 |
| stephg | ok so it's there and that looks fine | 19:00 |
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| stephg | can you fsck it on the phone? | 19:01 |
| stephg | like that, the automounter should see it automatically | 19:01 |
| CosmicDuck_ | yes, no errors. | 19:01 |
| stephg | unless you're on a crazy old version of sailfish | 19:01 |
| CosmicDuck_ | not really. Last update is only few weeks ago | 19:01 |
| stephg | do you have a mount point for it in /media/sdcard? | 19:01 |
| stephg | i.e. does /media/sdcard/e9755ba9-bd4a-4e05-92a7-8877268b6f3c exist as a directory? | 19:02 |
| CosmicDuck_ | will check. I bashed the mount-sd.sh with -x and the last messages are: | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | MOUNT_OPTS=dirsync,noatime,users | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + ACTION=add | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + DEVNAME=/dev/mmcblk1p1 | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + '[' -z add ']' | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + '[' -z /dev/mmcblk1p1 ']' | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + systemd-cat -t mount-sd /bin/echo 'Called to add /dev/mmcblk1p1' | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + '[' add = add ']' | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | ++ /sbin/blkid -c /dev/null -o export /dev//dev/mmcblk1p1 | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + eval '' | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + '[' -z '' ']' | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | + exit 1 | 19:03 |
| Nicd- | don't paste here :| | 19:03 |
| Nicd- | use a pastebin | 19:03 |
| stephg | that blkid line looks fishy | 19:03 |
| stephg | but I have to feed people, bbl | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | ...hmm, maybe i must use bl11 and not blk1p1? | 19:03 |
| CosmicDuck_ | ah, I must not use /dev with mount-sd.sh | 19:04 |
| CosmicDuck_ | ok, that was my fault. | 19:05 |
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| CosmicDuck_ | Now it's working. I must use mount-sd-sh add mmcblk1p1 and not /dev/mmcblk1p1... | 19:05 |
| CosmicDuck_ | Thank you for your support. I will now try to mount the card on my pc to write my files on the sdcard. | 19:06 |
| CosmicDuck_ | PS: Is it possible to use linux tools to the phone via usb-connection? | 19:06 |
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| Mnsu | anybody like to guess what would be the correct paths to enter in Jolla to get carddav syncing my contacts from an owncloud server? tjc gives various results reporting working/non-working combinations, some I already tried with no luck | 19:10 |
| M4rtinK | CosmicDuck_: it does not export the card or internal storage as a block device by default (mass storage) | 19:10 |
| M4rtinK | CosmicDuck_: if that's what you mean | 19:11 |
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| stephg | CosmicDuck_: how do you mean? personally I don't use MTP or any of that, just enable developer connection and then rsync the files over ssh to it | 19:20 |
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| stephg | ^^ what he said :) | 19:20 |
| CosmicDuck_ | I would like to use blkdevice export :-/ But all other is welcome. What's with sync protocols? mlsync or something available? bt export looks also not possible :-( | 19:21 |
| CosmicDuck_ | For my sd card access maybe I will use rsync with ssh connection, but for this I must not use a usb connection. | 19:22 |
| M4rtinK | iSCSI ;-) | 19:24 |
| M4rtinK | on a serious not just mounting the storage with SSH over USN networking works just fine :) | 19:25 |
| * tbr votes for RDMA | 19:26 | |
| stephg | CosmicDuck_: developer mode exposes usbnet so you can just ssh over the USB | 19:26 |
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| CosmicDuck_ | I would like more to sync my adressbook, calendar and schedules, notes, sms, something :-) | 19:27 |
| CosmicDuck_ | … | 19:27 |
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