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| japa-fi_ | How do I get rid of the "Get jolla weather app" notification? | 07:25 |
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| ln- | maybe by getting the jolla weather app? | 07:27 |
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| Nicd- | hehehe | 07:30 |
| j-doge | japa-fi: also by tap-and-hold on the notification | 07:31 |
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| gexc-phone | is it possible to override the dns without using iptables? | 08:03 |
| gexc-phone | when I used iptables to redirect dns queries, connman cannot find the ip of ipv4.jolla.com and refuses to set the state online | 08:04 |
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| gexc-phone | however if I change the status url in connman main.conf to the ip of ipv4.jolla.com connman is fine | 08:05 |
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| gexc-phone | besides that I am setting a global proxy with iptables btw | 08:06 |
| gexc-phone | it works fine except connman cannot set the state to online | 08:07 |
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| japa-fi_ | jolla weather app has been installed, and uninstalled. I find it annoying that "clear notifications" can't clear the weather app notification. | 08:42 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | japa-fi: because it is not a notification | 08:45 |
| SfietKonstantinW | but a "widget" | 08:45 |
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| The_Wraith | Hi. | 08:49 |
| The_Wraith | I come wit a question: How can i set an ambience through the command line? | 08:50 |
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| The_Wraith | I tried: dconf write /desktop/jolla/theme/active_ambience "'/usr/share/ambience/moonship/moonship.ambience'" | 08:50 |
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| The_Wraith | This wrote the value as it should with no error reported, but also made no change on the phone. | 08:50 |
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| The_Wraith | And when i try to observe what goes through the bus at the time i manually change ambiences (with dbus-monitor), i get so much output that i cant filter the important out. | 08:52 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | The_Wraith: the only API is via dbus | 08:55 |
| SfietKonstantinW | something like com.jolla.ambienced | 08:56 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | qdbus com.jolla.ambienced /com/jolla/ambienced com.jolla.ambienced.createAmbience <path/to/image> | 08:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | The_Wraith: ^ | 08:57 |
| japa-fi_ | SfietKonstantinW, you mean there is a widget running telling me to install jolla weather app? | 08:57 |
| SfietKonstantinW | japa-fi: ah, this thing | 08:58 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it is still a widget yeah :/ | 08:58 |
| japa-fi_ | My first impression was: "Darn, this update has installed impossible to ignore notification. Jolla basically forcing me to install foreca to get rid of the notification" | 08:59 |
| japa-fi_ | I did install, but then decided to uninstall. | 08:59 |
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| japa-fi_ | It suffers the same issue than all other weather apps: It shows to current weather instead of forecast. | 09:00 |
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| japa-fi_ | I can look out from the window to get idea of the weather, no app needed for that | 09:00 |
| The_Wraith | Okay, this could work if i wanted a new image in my ambience list.. but say i have two preconfigured ambiences and i just want to switch between them.. Use: com.jolla.ambienced.setAmbience ? | 09:00 |
| The_Wraith | @ SfietKonstantinW | 09:00 |
| japa-fi_ | the foreca weather widget for n900 is/was great | 09:00 |
| japa-fi_ | It shows current weather and forecast for oncoming days. | 09:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | The_Wraith: no, you have to use createAmbience, but on the image you used for your ambience | 09:01 |
| SfietKonstantinW | thre is no api to query the created ambiences :( | 09:01 |
| japa-fi_ | Why can't there be such for Jolla. Even with the screen space constraints, just having today and tomorrow visible would be great improvement | 09:01 |
| The_Wraith | I'm going to give it try and report back. | 09:02 |
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| The_Wraith | qdbus command doesnt exist and removing the q dont work :S | 09:04 |
| The_Wraith | dbus-send maybe? | 09:05 |
| SfietKonstantinW | The_Wraith: use dbus-send if you want, I'm not familiar with it :( | 09:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | or you can install qt5-qttools-qdbus something like that | 09:08 |
| SfietKonstantinW | do a pkcon search name qdbus to find the package | 09:09 |
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| The_Wraith | Okay, i tried the command you provided, didnt return an error, but i cant see a change on the phone. :/ | 09:14 |
| SfietKonstantinW | The_Wraith: use an absolute path to an image file ? | 09:14 |
| The_Wraith | Yes, did the: /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbus com.jolla.ambienced /com/jolla/ambienced com.jolla.ambienced.createAmbience /usr/share/ambience/babyflower/images/ambience-babyflower.jpg | 09:15 |
| SfietKonstantinW | damn, I was wrong | 09:16 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it is indeed setAmbience | 09:16 |
| The_Wraith | Still, no change with setAmbience as well. | 09:17 |
| SfietKonstantinW | The_Wraith: try with an image in your gallery | 09:18 |
| The_Wraith | No results with: /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbus com.jolla.ambienced /com/jolla/ambienced com.jolla.ambienced.setAmbience /home/nemo/Pictures/Camera/20150310_003.jpg | 09:22 |
| The_Wraith | Even if I first create the ambience with the gallery app. | 09:22 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | weired | 09:33 |
| The_Wraith | Found it. | 09:33 |
| The_Wraith | Apparently: /usr/lib/qt5/bin/qdbus com.jolla.ambienced /com/jolla/ambienced com.jolla.ambienced.setAmbience file:///usr/share/ambience/babyflower/images/ambience-babyflower.jpg | 09:33 |
| The_Wraith | ^ this works. | 09:33 |
| The_Wraith | Note on the file:// | 09:33 |
| The_Wraith | Thanks for the help though. | 09:34 |
| SfietKonstantinW | :) | 09:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | ah hyeah, true | 09:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | it is said to be an url | 09:36 |
| SfietKonstantinW | so you do need file:// | 09:36 |
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| lainwir3d | o/ | 10:16 |
| iekku | \o | 10:17 |
| urs | \o/ | 10:18 |
| SQUelcher | \o/ | 10:19 |
| Nicd- | do|-</: | 10:19 |
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| kimmoli | <:)))>< | 10:25 |
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| kro | <o/ | 10:28 |
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| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: now, draw a sailfish | 10:43 |
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| kimmoli | SfietKonstantinW: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-f65Sute2pxQ/VRkpl9h0sWI/AAAAAAAAIOU/XGKWryNQYOU/w837-h417-no/SAILFISH.jpg | 10:47 |
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| Nicd- | --<° //// >< | 10:49 |
| Sail0r | https://www.cs.cmu.edu/news/carnegie-mellon-study-shows-people-act-protect-privacy-when-told-how-often-phone-apps-share-personal-information | 10:52 |
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| The_Wraith | So, i wrote a small script that monitors incoming calls and when someone calls from a non-whitelisted number, changes the ambience to a silent one. | 11:15 |
| The_Wraith | But apparently the phone first starts ringing and then changes the ambience.. | 11:15 |
| The_Wraith | Any ideas on how to stall the ringing perhaps? | 11:15 |
| The_Wraith | Or a better way to achieve the same thing? | 11:16 |
| pp | kludge: ringtone has x secs of silence in beginning | 11:16 |
| pp | or reverse the logic and turn sounds on when whitelisted? | 11:17 |
| mornfall | pp: I suspect the change of ambience does not have an effect on an ongoing ringing | 11:18 |
| The_Wraith | The first idea wouldnt work, because the ringing wont stop when ambience changes after it started. | 11:18 |
| The_Wraith | But the other idea.. ill try. | 11:18 |
| pp | might not start ringing :( | 11:19 |
| mornfall | I suspect it'll be the same. | 11:19 |
| The_Wraith | Yep, same. | 11:19 |
| pp | best would be if there would be an "unknown" wildcard contact that would have a custom ringtone, but that would involve digging very deep into the code I'd guess | 11:20 |
| The_Wraith | Im thinking, perhaps changing the current ambience settings (setting ringtone to no-sound) would be faster.. | 11:21 |
| The_Wraith | Or even the silent-mode.. | 11:22 |
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| arvut | hi, when I use mtpfs to connect my jolla, I get "cannot access <DIR>: Software caused connection abort" on every dir on the device, what is wrong? | 12:07 |
| arvut | and also, some whining about "Unable to read MTPZ public exponent from ~/.mtpz-data, MTPZ disabled. | 12:11 |
| arvut | " | 12:11 |
| arvut | I'm totally new to mtpfs | 12:11 |
| entil | I've had little else than problems with mtpfs :( | 12:11 |
| entil | there's something called jmtpfs which I use, but it's pretty slow as well | 12:12 |
| arvut | I just ran mtpfs-detect and it barfed out a whole lot of info on the device | 12:13 |
| arvut | entil: what distro do you work from? | 12:13 |
| The_Wraith | I cant help you much on mtp, but you might find, that sftp works superb once you connect your jolla to cp in developer mode. | 12:14 |
| The_Wraith | cp-> pc* | 12:14 |
| entil | arvut: debian sid | 12:14 |
| entil | arvut: I'd give you the jmtpfs oneliner but I'm at work | 12:14 |
| arvut | how come? I thought mtp was required for filetransfers to be done via usb cable? | 12:14 |
| arvut | entil: found it in portage, thx for the tip | 12:14 |
| * tbr mostly uses nautilus and whatever mtp backend it has, works well enough | 12:14 | |
| tbr | aside from the obvious scp and rsync | 12:15 |
| arvut | entil: any help is welcome whenever you have time for it ;) | 12:15 |
| entil | yeah, I'm on enlightenment and its file manager doesn't do mtp yet | 12:15 |
| entil | arvut: you'll probably figure it out by the time I'm at home | 12:15 |
| * arvut drops jaws awaiting spoon | 12:15 | |
| The_Wraith | jolla can use the usb as a network interface, and so can your linux. | 12:15 |
| arvut | lol yeah | 12:15 |
| arvut | or I'll just go back to my c programming or actually get some things done away from home.. gotta get a new ID card among other things | 12:16 |
| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: I meant: on ASCIIart. Well done nevertheless :) | 12:16 |
| entil | also enlightenment's file manager has serious issues generating thumbnails for my phone's images over jmtpfs cuz it's slow :( | 12:16 |
| arvut | The_Wraith: ah yeah, but how? | 12:16 |
| arvut | ip over usb is also in the mist of unexplored territory for me | 12:16 |
| arvut | but I'm eager to learn it | 12:17 |
| The_Wraith | On jolla all you have to do, is enable developer mode, then when plugging in it gives you an option to connect in developer mode.. this makes the usb a network interface. | 12:17 |
| tbr | on linux it's "just works" | 12:17 |
| arvut | ah yeah, got dev mode on | 12:17 |
| The_Wraith | On your pc, however you need to load the rndis_host module. | 12:17 |
| arvut | k | 12:18 |
| arvut | in kernel? | 12:18 |
| kimmoli | SfietKonstantinW: your specs were not accurate enough : | 12:18 |
| The_Wraith | I think it's as simple as: modprobe rndis_host | 12:18 |
| arvut | right | 12:18 |
| The_Wraith | In debian anyway. | 12:18 |
| arvut | yeah, I'm in gentoo hardened | 12:18 |
| SfietKonstantinW | kimmoli: yeah I know, that's why I said you did a good job though :) | 12:18 |
| The_Wraith | My gentoo needed a trial and error way of enabling modules, i got: rndis_host, cdc_ether, and usbnet. | 12:19 |
| The_Wraith | That seemed to work. :P | 12:19 |
| arvut | messing around with security, learning much and stumbling upon obstructures every now and then | 12:19 |
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| The_Wraith | Anyway, once you got them loaded, you should get an usb interface usb0 or something, assign it an address on connect to your jolla (witch is always 168.192.2.15) | 12:20 |
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| The_Wraith | on-> and* | 12:21 |
| arvut | gotta build a new kernel anyway, so I'll have a look at those modules right away =) | 12:21 |
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| The_Wraith | Oh, and mii | 12:21 |
| arvut | 3.18.9-hardened is stable now :) | 12:21 |
| The_Wraith | I dont know what it is, but it's loaded by usbnet. :D | 12:21 |
| arvut | btw, can the jolla kexec kernel? | 12:22 |
| arvut | or maybe thats just overkill | 12:22 |
| The_Wraith | It's overkill, but that doesnt mean you shouldnt mess around with it. :D | 12:23 |
| arvut | wow, so much under usbnetworking that can be enabled | 12:23 |
| arvut | lol | 12:23 |
| arvut | im gonna mess around with kexec on my desktop first | 12:23 |
| arvut | things tends to go wrong there first and I can always boot an earlier kernel or reinstall the whole mess when need be | 12:24 |
| arvut | gotta move my / to spinning rust soon so I can repartition my ssd, get rid of windoze which eats up 60G of my precious intel 510 | 12:25 |
| arvut | so reinstall/kexec boot is probably in the near future | 12:25 |
| arnej | Does Jolla have issues with orders at the moment? My order is in state 'paid' since tuesday last week | 12:26 |
| arvut | this might be a totally out of place question, but do you do any assembly hacking on the jolla? or is it only "higher level" languages? | 12:26 |
| arvut | arnej: dust in the wind? | 12:26 |
| SfietKonstantinW | The_Wraith: maybe you should disable ringtone when there is an unwanted call | 12:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | just switch "profile" to silent | 12:29 |
| SfietKonstantinW | if you can afford C++ and shipping some stuff with you, you can check how I do this on phonebot: https://github.com/SfietKonstantin/phonebot/blob/master/src/plugins/profile/profileaction.cpp#L80 | 12:30 |
| SfietKonstantinW | I have shipped libprofile with me | 12:30 |
| coderus | btw, probably (?) cool application for mtp: https://github.com/whoozle/android-file-transfer-linux | 12:33 |
| Ikarus | heh | 12:34 |
| Ikarus | I still need to continue work on Plan9 FS over USB | 12:34 |
| Ikarus | so we can have a properly Open and SANE replacement for MTP | 12:34 |
| The_Wraith | Yes, i found that: dbus-send --session --dest=com.nokia.profiled --type=method_call /com/nokia/profiled com.nokia.profiled.set_profile string:"silent" | 12:34 |
| Ikarus | but I lack hardware I can break the kernel on at the moment | 12:34 |
| The_Wraith | ..works | 12:34 |
| Ikarus | (that also has OTG support) | 12:34 |
| Ikarus | (errr, device support) | 12:34 |
| The_Wraith | Although, it allows the phone to ring about 2 seconds first. | 12:35 |
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| ilpianista | my Jolla display shows a "yellow" area on the left. It's visible only when the background color is white | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | contact care... display may be broken | 15:38 |
| ilpianista | ok, I'm not sure whether there is a warranty or not for my Jolla | 15:38 |
| ilpianista | is warranty 12 months? | 15:38 |
| ggabriel | according to jolla, but that's debatable as EU mandates 2 years for electronic devices | 15:39 |
| ilpianista | I see | 15:39 |
| ggabriel | there's a tjc for that | 15:39 |
| ilpianista | tjc? | 15:39 |
| ggabriel | together.jolla.com | 15:39 |
| ilpianista | ah right | 15:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | anyone know how to dig into why the jolla might not be connecting to 3g/4g? | 17:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | frequencies check out ok, coverage should be ok too (dont know for sure) | 17:28 |
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| CosmicDuck_ | hi, I want to send photos via mms, but they are to large so I must rescale them to a lower resolution. With the integrated mms support it is not supportet. The integrated editor can only crop images but looks like rescale is not possible. I've installed Filters but I cannot see here a image rescale functionality. Any idea? | 18:42 |
| sakustar | r0kk3rz: it does 2g? | 18:43 |
| CosmicDuck_ | On my N900 I remember mms sending is possible and images can be rescaled before sending, but i'm unsure because I did start my n900 longer time latest ago | 18:43 |
| r0kk3rz | sakustar: yeah 2g is fine | 18:44 |
| r0kk3rz | other than being slow of course | 18:44 |
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| sakustar | did it use to work / does it work in another device | 18:45 |
| sakustar | id check operator settings first i guess | 18:45 |
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| sakustar | and try enabling roaming mode if jolla has one, sometimes my old phone used to think i was roaming when i hit 4g :o | 18:46 |
| r0kk3rz | is a new sim, pretty sure the APN settings are ok | 18:47 |
| raa700 | CosmicDuck_: take screenshot of pic and send it? | 18:47 |
| r0kk3rz | tried switching roaming on/off | 18:47 |
| r0kk3rz | suppose i can flash something that boots onto my old android phone and see if that works | 18:47 |
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| r0kk3rz | hmm looks like im only getting 2g with my old android as well | 19:09 |
| r0kk3rz | that sucks | 19:09 |
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| sakustar | cool, now you can ask the operator | 19:23 |
| Acce | 3g 4g reception is really poor in my block of cement too | 19:23 |
| sakustar | i can only get edge inside and calls dont work | 19:24 |
| sakustar | balcony = 4g :( | 19:25 |
| Acce | yeah, for me it helps to go near windows | 19:26 |
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| r0kk3rz | there are some reports that for this operator the sim can take 24hrs to fully activate | 19:32 |
| r0kk3rz | so maybe i will wait and see what happens | 19:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | ah works now, even got 4g :D | 19:50 |
| r0kk3rz | apparently i wasnt patient enough | 19:50 |
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| Mikaela | would someone here be able to recommend me good native web radio app that either has Finnish stations or allows you to add those? | 20:32 |
| * Mikaela is being too lazy to do research by herself | 20:32 | |
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| Ikarus | Mikaela: I use the default music player app, you can add streams to it, but it's a bit silly | 20:38 |
| Mikaela | oh, I thought it just supported local files. What kind of silly? | 20:39 |
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| Ikarus | Mikaela: it's weird to add them, iirc I did it by adding it as a playlist with the URL to the stream | 20:41 |
| Ikarus | but it works :) | 20:41 |
| Ikarus | (so add the m3u or pls) | 20:41 |
| Mikaela | Is it easy to switch to another station? | 20:41 |
| Mikaela | It sounds like I will try some other app | 20:41 |
| Ikarus | yup, it works just like changing tracks | 20:42 |
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| Ikarus | you can make a playlist with all the stations you want | 20:42 |
| Ikarus | but yeah, it is a kludge, I didn't want to bother trying to find an app at that point though | 20:42 |
| Mikaela | Sounds a little too weid to me | 20:42 |
| Mikaela | I think even the Jolla store has some so I will probably try some somtime when I feel productive | 20:43 |
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| Ikarus | if you find any, tell me :) | 20:44 |
| Mikaela | sure if I remember | 20:44 |
| Mikaela | I wrote that to the notes app now along with other thing I must remember tomororw | 20:45 |
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| Yaniel | yradio did let you add arbitrary urls iirc | 20:53 |
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| stephg | evening | 20:56 |
| Mikaela | hi | 20:56 |
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| CosmicDuck_ | raa700: Not working. to large. The reason why i want to rescale it. | 22:10 |
| raa700 | android image editing? | 22:12 |
| CosmicDuck_ | Hmm, don't reaaly want to use android stuff :-/ | 22:15 |
| CosmicDuck_ | i see there is jpegtran installed. | 22:16 |
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| CosmicDuck_ | jpegtran does not support rescaling. | 23:15 |
| CosmicDuck_ | But I found a information that the mms tool reduced the size by rescaling allready by themself so no further help is needed. Thx. | 23:16 |
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