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| Ponchale | Good morning from Colombia in EasyLabs we keep asking if Jolla would be interested in an alliance already been almost three weeks since we contacted you and almost 2 since we contacted Stskeeps | 06:47 |
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| Stskeeps | Ponchale: with all due respect, MWC 2015 has just happened which always generates a lot of leads to follow up on. I've forwarded your mail to somebody who will take care of it and will handle it when possible. This isn't an official Jolla IRC channel. | 06:49 |
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| ikarus_ | mmmm, need to find/make a purplish theme | 10:01 |
| Mikaela | mine got removed with that factory reset, but it was bad anyway | 10:01 |
| entil | I made a sweet blue theme by taking a picture of my bath robe by accident :D | 10:02 |
| Mikaela | :D | 10:02 |
| Nicd- | ikarus_: https://plus.google.com/photos/110693235602405640560/albums/5951600878348798689/5975491273170537266?pid=5975491273170537266&oid=110693235602405640560 is very purple/pinkish :) | 10:02 |
| Mikaela | screenshot? :) | 10:02 |
| Mikaela | that also looks coldish | 10:03 |
| entil | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CANfebkWAAAoU2S.png:large | 10:04 |
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| entil | lolzy, don't have any cloud solution and CBA to deal with mtp, so I tweeted it.. and made a typo in the tweet | 10:05 |
| ikarus_ | Nicd-: oooh that may just work | 10:05 |
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| Mikaela | that looks very artistic to be accidental photo and I would have no idea about that being bathrobe if you hadn't mentioned it | 10:06 |
| zutto | my co-workers htc one had camera (faulty) that produced that kind of purple pictures | 10:07 |
| zutto | all yellowish colors turned into purple on it | 10:07 |
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| entil | https://twitter.com/mjtorn/status/577410858671824897 the original pic looks better and if someone wants to use it, feel free to | 10:08 |
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| Joonaa | how does sailfish decide the menu colors btw? | 10:32 |
| Joonaa | my pic has pink highlights, and sailfish decided to use pink (which is perfect), but how? | 10:33 |
| leinir | using an ALGORITHM! | 10:33 |
| Joonaa | waow | 10:34 |
| TemeV | such algorithm, much logic | 10:34 |
| leinir | and as you will know if you've watched fox news or anything like that recently, you will know how evil /that/ is! ;) | 10:34 |
| leinir | herpaderpaderp ;) | 10:34 |
| leinir | more seriously, not knowing it, i'd expect it'll be based on the algorithm someone published a couple of years ago, designed to extract meaningful and contrasting colour schemes from a picture :) | 10:35 |
| Nicd- | you can change the colors nowadays btw | 10:35 |
| Joonaa | Nicd-: where? that could be nice if i change my background. | 10:36 |
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| Nicd- | Joonaa: in the ambience details | 10:36 |
| TemeV | you have to make it a "favorite" first | 10:36 |
| Joonaa | ah i see | 10:37 |
| Joonaa | (thanks) | 10:41 |
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| chem|st | Joonaa: the choosable colour range depends on the colours in the picture, so you have a contrast threshold of some kind | 10:56 |
| Joonaa | huh? | 10:57 |
| Joonaa | i could change to any color | 10:57 |
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| Joonaa | sadly not i can not fall back to the old color... damn it | 10:57 |
| chem|st | Joonaa: if you try different pictures you get what I mean, some ambiences get vivd colours some not | 10:58 |
| Joonaa | oh | 10:58 |
| Joonaa | interesting | 10:58 |
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| ikarus_ | leinir: the algorithm for the colour selection is pretty basic, it's something a toying CS student should be able to come up with | 11:10 |
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| silver_hook | Did CalDAV & CardDAV improve (or change) in any way in the last update? | 11:38 |
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| ggabriel | o/ | 13:29 |
| ggabriel | cheeky question for whoever is listening | 13:29 |
| ggabriel | i accidentally permanently locked my phone again (it appears that the motion sensor goes berserk in some circumstances and the worst happens) | 13:30 |
| ggabriel | is there any way to unlock it from the recovery menu with the latest version of sailfish? | 13:30 |
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| Joonaa | permanently locked.._ |>O | 13:42 |
| Joonaa | ? >:O* | 13:42 |
| ggabriel | Joonaa: yes, when you type your password wrongly too many times | 13:42 |
| Joonaa | ah. | 13:42 |
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| Joonaa | cant say ive typed my password wrong too often.. | 13:42 |
| ggabriel | it happened twice already... password types itself | 13:43 |
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| Nicd- | that's why I have 50 tries | 13:43 |
| ggabriel | i have 20... | 13:43 |
| Nicd- | I think there was a way to unlock it from recovery mode. maybe. at least the recovery mode asks for the code | 13:44 |
| Joonaa | what password do you mean? | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: it does, not sure it unlocks it automatically | 13:44 |
| Nicd- | also there was a way to unlock it if you managed to get in with SSH | 13:44 |
| ggabriel | Nicd-: source? | 13:45 |
| Nicd- | this channel :P | 13:45 |
| ggabriel | i'm sure that with the previous version of sailfish you culdn't do it | 13:45 |
| Nicd- | I seem to recall hearing something like that | 13:45 |
| ggabriel | ummm i do need ssh to make a backup though | 13:46 |
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| rigo | Hi all, who is working on the jolla email client? | 15:08 |
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| rigo | I have someone pretending that the jolla email client doesn't allow to reply to all or reply-to list | 15:09 |
| chem|st | rigo: ? | 15:10 |
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| chem|st | rigo: on lists, a normal reply replies to "list" per default | 15:11 |
| chem|st | rigo: on emails with multiple receipients you get a "reply to all" | 15:12 |
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| mariod | Hello everyone :) | 17:26 |
| mariod | I am sorry to bother you yet again with a probably simple question ... i just haven't found a solution yet ... ... Is there a way to block incoming calls and text messages from a certain number? | 17:27 |
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| mariod | lildeimos, hello | 17:28 |
| Lieke | mariod: https://together.jolla.com/question/7614/blocklist-for-phone-calls-and-sms/ | 17:29 |
| mariod | that's a page i've seen too - thank you Lieke ... | 17:30 |
| Lieke | one answer mentions an app on openrepos | 17:30 |
| mariod | but i haven't found this app yet ... plus ... i'm not sure i can already download stuff from this "openrepos" place | 17:31 |
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| mariod | also Lieke (or others) ... maybe you know about this too? ... i have recently installed an appstore called "f-droid" ... and a few days ago when i checked the Jolla store it's there too ... shall i then remove the one i installed and install the Jolla store f-droid thing or is this some scam? | 17:33 |
| ikarus_ | f-droid is hardly a scam, if you installed it from the official source | 17:34 |
| mariod | i did ikarus_ ... it's just ... i'm confused now because a few days ago i also saw it in the Jolla store | 17:35 |
| ikarus_ | same thing | 17:35 |
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| mariod | but it doesn't recognize the one i installed ... | 17:35 |
| mariod | ok ... thanks ikarus_ :) | 17:35 |
| ikarus_ | yes, because installing it via the Jolla store is slightly different | 17:35 |
| ikarus_ | but it is the same store | 17:35 |
| mariod | shall i then remove the one i installed and install the one from the Jolla store? | 17:36 |
| mariod | and is ... http://jolla.store.aptoide.com/ ... something you can trust? ... i stumbled upon it while looking for a solution to block incoming text messages and calls from certain numbers | 17:37 |
| mariod | note: i'm looking for a free solution (i can't pay for anything yet) ... and if it also was free as in freedom ... that'd be a nice bonus :) | 17:40 |
| ikarus_ | uh | 17:42 |
| ikarus_ | no Android app can control voice/text stuff | 17:42 |
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| mariod | really? ... so all these apps are some scam / con then? | 17:43 |
| ikarus_ | no, they just don't work on Jolla, they would work fine on Android | 17:43 |
| mariod | uh ... i see | 17:43 |
| ikarus_ | It's just that Jolla doesn't expose all functionality like that to it's Android enviroment | 17:43 |
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| mariod | hmmm ... any idea as to what i should / could do then? | 17:44 |
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| mariod | apart from asking my provider if they can change my phone number :) | 17:44 |
| Ikarus | there might be something on Warehouse for it (it would not be to Harbour terms because it interacts with services that you aren't supposed to interact with | 17:45 |
| Ikarus | ScumStopper can block calls it seems, though not SMSes in the current state of the OS | 17:47 |
| Ikarus | it's on the store, although in that case it won't autostart | 17:48 |
| Ikarus | see http://sourceforge.net/p/scumstopper/wiki/Home/ it seems | 17:48 |
| mariod | well ... i don't want to endanger the warranty or anything else that breaks some code or something (i got the phone not long ago) | 17:48 |
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| Ikarus | don't worry about the warranty based on such trivial software, it is just that the user experience is not guaranteed | 17:48 |
| Ikarus | and the Store version only operates while it is open | 17:49 |
| mariod | soooo ... do i have to start the app then every time i switch on the phone? | 17:50 |
| Ikarus | Yes, if you don't run it as a daemon as mentioned on that wikipage, you will have to do that | 17:50 |
| mariod | and Ikarus ... sorry but i can't help but do worry a little about all those things because the phone is new and i've never had a smartphone before :) | 17:51 |
| Ikarus | mariod: don't worry, it's a phone and Jolla isn't insane | 17:51 |
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| mariod | *chuckle* | 17:52 |
| mariod | do YOU personally use this "ScumStopper" ? | 17:53 |
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| Ikarus | nope, I keep my phone number pretty private and use redirected disposable numbers if I don't quite trust a guy, I am a bit paranoid on that | 17:54 |
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| mariod | oh you mean you give out some number that is set to redirect to your actual number? | 17:56 |
| Ikarus | yup | 17:56 |
| mariod | nice idea :) | 17:56 |
| zutto | Ikarus: you should set up a sip server for that use | 17:56 |
| Ikarus | zutto: not quite as flexible, can't use numbers that are actual mobile phone numbers with that | 17:57 |
| zutto | so you can call as the number you have attached to the sip without actually calling from that number with asterisk magic | 17:57 |
| Ikarus | (because the Dutch number plan) | 17:57 |
| zutto | sure you can ;O | 17:57 |
| mariod | no idea what that is Ikarus | 17:57 |
| Ikarus | mariod: some way over the top stuff, but I am a bit paranoid about it | 17:57 |
| rigo | chem|st: thanks, I will tell them | 17:58 |
| mariod | zutto, ... if you've got some additional ideas how to block incoming text messages, calls, etc ... feel free to mention 'em :) | 17:58 |
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| mariod | hmmm ... okaaaay | 17:58 |
| zutto | mariod: hold on, i'll find you entertaining youchoob vidya on that topic | 17:58 |
| AL13N | i imagine an ofonod plugin should be doable to not accept SMS from certain numbers? | 17:59 |
| AL13N | or rather, no connections from certain numbers | 17:59 |
| AL13N | though phone providers won't like it | 17:59 |
| mariod | *shrugs* AL13N ... i have no idea what that means :) | 18:00 |
| zutto | here we go, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SI2AUjSkBk for mariod | 18:00 |
| zutto | this guy has quite intresting setup to deal with such things | 18:00 |
| mariod | i'm no professional ... but i'm willing to learn some more stuff | 18:00 |
| zutto | hes basicly being hes own mobile phone operator with that ;P | 18:00 |
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| zutto | mobile phone? mobile network | 18:01 |
| mariod | sounds interesting too, zutto :) | 18:01 |
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| mariod | i could look into that some more later but at the moment an easy and free solution needs to be found :) | 18:02 |
| mariod | buuut the 2 and a half minutes i've seen so far ... interesting ... i don't know how this works yet but sounds like something a bunch of us here maybe could need too? :) | 18:04 |
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| zutto | if you're into hacking such things together, sure | 18:06 |
| mariod | zutto, ... like i said ... i'm no technical expert at all ... but i'm willing to learn various stuff :) | 18:07 |
| mariod | aaand Ikarus ? | 18:07 |
| mariod | can i just download this RPM-file from the website and move it to my phone? | 18:08 |
| mariod | like i did with some APK-files? | 18:08 |
| zutto | this is not quite that kind of solution | 18:09 |
| zutto | techinically this could probably be compiled for jolla, but that video is a tiny demo of asterisk, which is a ip pbx system | 18:09 |
| zutto | (in simple terms: a sip server for you, that can be configured quite easily) | 18:10 |
| mariod | you'd have to explain "sip server" then too, please ;) | 18:12 |
| mariod | buuut zutto ? ... all this is a bit too much overkill right now for blocking one person's number ... | 18:12 |
| zutto | it is a very large overkill for that | 18:13 |
| mariod | this setup there is something i'd have to look into later ;) | 18:13 |
| darude_ | Hello, I have a little problem.. Is it possible to make a backup from Jolla using telnet and recovery mode? I found this article: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202514138-How-to-copy-data-from-Home-to-SD-card-in-Recovery-Mode . But the problem is there is anything else than .cache- and .config-folders in home/nemo/ | 18:13 |
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| darude_ | I got the in boot loop and it won't start now, so I thought if I could get the pictures from the phone and then I could do a factory reset using the recovery mode | 18:18 |
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| darude_ | Already tried to btrfs recovery but it didn't fix it | 18:18 |
| mariod | i'm afraid i don't know how to help you darude_ ... but stick around for a little while longer and i'm sure someone can be of service :) | 18:29 |
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| mariod | note: in the meantime i'm trying to figure out how to install some file there | 18:41 |
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| olpe | hi. I'm going to factory reset my jolla. What folders should I delete before or after the factory reset to get as fresh installation as possible? | 20:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | olpe: none | 20:30 |
| olpe | okey. so it should clean up everything... | 20:32 |
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| r0kk3rz | it reverts the entire filesystem | 20:39 |
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| olpe | ok nice | 21:04 |
| mariod | note: i'm not sure i've understood this call-blocking-app yet ... or how to install it ... i will read some more about it later | 21:04 |
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| sakustar | zutto: why did i have to open that link t_t (saved only by laziness) | 21:50 |
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| sakustar | jon masters sounds awesome though. | 21:50 |
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| pdanek | Jolla 2, the hype! | 22:59 |
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| tadzik | ...agian? | 23:08 |
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| SpeedEvil | There can't be a new one. | 23:31 |
| SpeedEvil | https://jolla.com/jolla/ | 23:31 |
| SpeedEvil | The world doesn’t need yet another smartphone | 23:31 |
| lpotter | the world doesn't need another car... | 23:33 |
| M4rtinK | everything has already been invented! | 23:33 |
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| lpotter | well... except gravity plating | 23:34 |
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| lpotter | I wish we were working on another phone | 23:34 |
| lpotter | tablet is cool though, and a nice companion for the phone | 23:35 |
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| SpeedEvil | I assume no more noises have been made about potetial cellular for tablet? | 23:52 |
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| M4rtinK | SpeedEvil: using USB modems should be possible | 23:55 |
| SpeedEvil | yeah - I know, thanks. | 23:55 |
| M4rtinK | SpeedEvil: and has been discussed at the community roundtable on FOSDEM | 23:56 |
| SpeedEvil | I do wish the kickstarter target had been reached - but meh. | 23:56 |
| M4rtinK | once can laways tether with the Jolla in the worst case | 23:57 |
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