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| kimmoli | ) | 17:03 |
| kimmoli | äh | 17:03 |
| kimmoli | gddmnnit. waiting for my next TOH pcbs - so fustrating | 17:04 |
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| cryorat | kimmoli, what kind of toh? | 17:08 |
| kimmoli | uart | 17:11 |
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| gogeta | hi kimmoli | 17:20 |
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| kimmoli | hi gogeta | 17:33 |
| gogeta | tell me some where in europe where I can manifacture some pcb | 17:36 |
| gogeta | low volume | 17:36 |
| kimmoli | brandner in estonia | 17:38 |
| kimmoli | https://www.brandner.ee/ | 17:39 |
| tbr | someone recently posted a comparison site | 17:39 |
| kimmoli | oh? | 17:40 |
| kimmoli | that was first one that came in my mind, for low volumes/fast delivery/reasonable prices | 17:40 |
| kimmoli | then there is always china, itead et.al. | 17:41 |
| kimmoli | oshpark in US | 17:41 |
| kimmoli | for buziness, controlled quality but made in china, i would contact NCAB (good service) | 17:42 |
| kimmoli | wurth also makes pcb's, not so cheap though | 17:42 |
| Teemu | wurth is also annoying to communicate with | 17:43 |
| tbr | kimmoli: http://pcbshopper.com/ | 17:44 |
| Teemu | then wanted some nda to give some info on how to give them gerbers | 17:44 |
| Teemu | s/then/they | 17:44 |
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| Teemu | after that there was some trouble with them not reading the layer names and attached (required) text description file naming the layers and their metainfo so mails and calls went back and forth for a week or so before anything real happened | 17:45 |
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| kimmoli | tbr: thanks. itead cheapes for 10 pcs 50x50mm | 17:46 |
| Teemu | :) | 17:46 |
| kimmoli | and i have had no issues with their products (so far) | 17:46 |
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| kimmoli | https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-uWSklHo6RV8/VQXF10cFa2I/AAAAAAAAIII/FSzF9vui6iI/w767-h852-no/pcbxyz.png | 17:48 |
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| kimmoli | speaking of pcbs, doing some layout currently | 17:48 |
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| gogeta | tnx guys | 18:00 |
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| ShadowJK | wurth makes pcbs? wtf | 18:03 |
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| kimmoli | http://www.we-online.com/web/en/leiterplatten/willkommen_/Willkommen.php | 18:08 |
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| kimmoli | they also make nice things http://www.we-online.com/web/en/leiterplatten/produkte_/wirelaid_/wirelaid_2.php | 18:11 |
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| ShadowJK | is this the same wurth that comes try sell powertools couple times a month? | 18:11 |
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| Teemu | yes | 18:15 |
| Teemu | bolts too | 18:15 |
| Teemu | they're selling bosch powertools with higher price as they're now branded wurth | 18:15 |
| ikarus_ | lol, but they are made in the USA now :P | 18:16 |
| Teemu | they make good and reasonably priced ethernet transformers | 18:16 |
| kimmoli | wurth elektronik is a allied company i.e. operational unit of wurth group | 18:17 |
| kimmoli | Teemu: that is wurth elektronik midcom | 18:18 |
| kimmoli | afaik WE acquired midcom some time ago | 18:18 |
| Teemu | explains | 18:18 |
| * tbr finds it hilarious to call it "wurth" - that's so ... finnish | 18:19 | |
| r0kk3rz | it is? | 18:19 |
| kimmoli | würth better? or wuerth | 18:20 |
| tbr | hint: It's either "Würth" or "Wuerth" - anything else is plain wrong | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | ah | 18:20 |
| kimmoli | but it is faster to type wurth | 18:20 |
| ShadowJK | I'll call it Wyrth | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | i would normally just drop the umlaut | 18:20 |
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| kimmoli | i'm speaking url www.wurth.something | 18:20 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: so "wrth"? | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | because thats the lazy english speaker way of doing it | 18:20 |
| Teemu | well yes | 18:21 |
| Teemu | computers are english-speaking | 18:21 |
| Teemu | also my keybored is swedish so has problems making ü fast | 18:21 |
| * tbr knows why outside of DACH he uses the transliterated version of his last name | 18:21 | |
| tbr | _especially_ in finland | 18:21 |
| Teemu | dach? | 18:21 |
| tbr | Deutschland, Austria, Confederatio Helvetica | 18:22 |
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| ShadowJK | Although I was under the impression that finnish prefers to drop umlauts, and scandinavia prefers translit | 18:22 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: you're of german heritage? | 18:23 |
| Teemu | ShadowJK: that's because we all watched on tv how marja-liisa haemaelaeinen was yelling HAVUJA PERKELE | 18:23 |
| Teemu | that was so damn annoying we all stopped translittering umlauted vowels with *e | 18:24 |
| tbr | Teemu: sure, the problem is if you do that to foreign umlauts and even worse when it creates offensive words | 18:24 |
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| Teemu | i'd prefer seeing hämäläinen in the tv sports texts but as they're using some steam age dinosaurs they either drop umlauts or create monsters | 18:24 |
| tbr | I had to fight for one year to get a non offensive version of an email address at a previous finnish employer | 18:25 |
| Teemu | so i'm rather looking at hamalainen than haemaelaeinen | 18:25 |
| kimmoli | tschuss | 18:25 |
| r0kk3rz | translit is 'more correct', but having grown up with zero accented letters, in most cases i wouldnt know how | 18:25 |
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| Teemu | computers are from america so they're having problems with reality | 18:25 |
| r0kk3rz | computers are from britain | 18:26 |
| r0kk3rz | but mostly developed in america i guess | 18:26 |
| kimmoli | it is just britain problem then? | 18:26 |
| Teemu | america is from britain | 18:26 |
| r0kk3rz | this is true | 18:26 |
| Teemu | they're just learning that a system of measurement units can make things handy but they're not sure yet how it works | 18:26 |
| tbr | I ♥ unicode | 18:27 |
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| Teemu | like, inches and miles _could_ be converted with moving the decimal comma but no | 18:27 |
| kimmoli | just wait when sailfish version goes to last alphabets :) | 18:27 |
| r0kk3rz | nah they're still in the 'humans think in thirds' and 'why would you convert units' phase | 18:27 |
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| Teemu | :) | 18:28 |
| r0kk3rz | but the norwegian mile as 10km makes sense | 18:28 |
| kimmoli | wtf. google chrome installed some new background apps | 18:28 |
| kimmoli | to windows | 18:28 |
| TemeV | kimmoli: it is in y no, i doubt there is anything with z, so or should be next | 18:28 |
| TemeV | *now | 18:29 |
| kimmoli | ok, chrome and google hangouts will be gone now. shame that PSI is so slooow to connect | 18:29 |
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| kimmoli | heh, i tried to login with windows gtal, immediately got email "Huomasimme, että yritit hiljattain käyttää Google Talk -sovelluksen Windows-versiota. Tämä palvelu lopetettiin 23.2.2015" | 18:31 |
| kimmoli | you tried... for sure i tried | 18:31 |
| kimmoli | wtf. uninstall, close all chrome windows and try again. | 18:32 |
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| kimmoli | ah, just 5 processes named chrome | 18:33 |
| kimmoli | and they are respawning.... gdmnit this cr*p | 18:34 |
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| kimmoli | uninstall launched IE - firefox is my default browser. Sorry ranting here, but this is just... | 18:34 |
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| kimmoli | tbr: still wrong? http://www.keepcalm-o-matic.co.uk/p/its-tschuss-not-cheese-or-sheess/ | 18:43 |
| tbr | that doesn't make sense at all | 18:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | something is wrong with your ears if you pronounce tschuss as cheese | 18:48 |
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| r0kk3rz | im sure i pronounce it badly, but not that badly | 18:50 |
| kimmoli | i hear it "zys" (pronounced like finn :) | 18:52 |
| r0kk3rz | "zys" makes my brain go "wtf" | 18:54 |
| kimmoli | 7-letter work with one vovel is not meant to be pronounced | 18:54 |
| kimmoli | *word | 18:54 |
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| ottulonen | everyone should just adapt and use IPA | 18:55 |
| entil | I actually had to remind myself of the spelling | 18:55 |
| TemeV | yeah, I've been consuming lot of IPA lately | 18:55 |
| entil | kimmoli: elektryczność | 18:55 |
| entil | four vowels, still pretty hard to pronouce :D | 18:56 |
| kimmoli | we are not going to finnish words... | 18:56 |
| entil | polish for electricity | 18:56 |
| kimmoli | http://www.suomigo.net/wiki/Go.finSanaleikit | 18:56 |
| kimmoli | you can start there | 18:56 |
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| entil | so I lol'd a bit at sinkosinko, I fail at life :D | 18:57 |
| kimmoli | 55 ? | 18:58 |
| entil | 55? | 18:58 |
| entil | whazzat? | 18:58 |
| kimmoli | sinko = 5 in spanish? | 18:58 |
| entil | haha | 18:58 |
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| entil | of course | 18:58 |
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| kimmoli | Riiuuyöaieoionta | 18:59 |
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| kimmoli | intent to have night of wooing in love, but then not . did i translate it correctly | 19:01 |
| ottulonen | correcting of the wooing night plans | 19:02 |
| entil | as we say here, klassikko | 19:02 |
| ottulonen | it doesn't really specify which way the intent/plan is adjusted | 19:02 |
| ShadowJK | though without the correcting bit, it would have nice vowel:consonant ratio | 19:03 |
| ottulonen | I was trying to think of the word with the highest vowel:consonant ratio once and could not exceed 2:1 | 19:04 |
| ottulonen | but if you consider interjections, ther's "oi" | 19:04 |
| ottulonen | or ei... | 19:04 |
| ottulonen | which is, technically, a verb, so should be accepted | 19:04 |
| kimmoli | 2:0 ? | 19:05 |
| ottulonen | yeah | 19:05 |
| kimmoli | there is only few native words with e.g. 2 d -letters, but words with >10 same vovels without other vovels | 19:06 |
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| kimmoli | OT. inspired by this http://www.cnet.com/news/paper-notebook-uploads-to-cloud-erases-in-microwave/ | 19:21 |
| kimmoli | bought few frixion pens. writing s*cks, you can hide the text with heat, but it comes back in when frozen | 19:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | interesting idea | 19:39 |
| r0kk3rz | reverse idea of the lemon juice ink trick | 19:39 |
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| r0kk3rz | but if you want to erase the written word, there are easier methods than special microwavable ink | 19:41 |
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| kimmoli | i think the notebook is pizza-cardboard-microwave-plate-thing that heats in microwave | 19:50 |
| kimmoli | that ink just changes to transparent when heated | 19:51 |
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| kimmoli | e.g. with friction, as the name friXion comes | 19:51 |
| r0kk3rz | not sure being heated by microwave absorption really counts as friction | 19:53 |
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| * tbr is reasonably happy with his BoogieBoard sync. Just need to fix the fuse obexfs. | 19:55 | |
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| r0kk3rz | tbr: is it only ever white on black? | 20:01 |
| kimmoli | tbr: it erases also on microwave? i think it will :) | 20:02 |
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| kimmoli | i have a question, can i ask it here? | 20:03 |
| r0kk3rz | kimmoli: no, no questions allowed | 20:03 |
| kimmoli | damn | 20:04 |
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| TemeV | yes, you should go to #questions, here we talk about jollamobile | 20:05 |
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| TemeV | and if you want answer, propably join #answer also | 20:05 |
| TemeV | because #questions is only for questions, not answers ;) | 20:05 |
| kimmoli | oh, so there is no #questions&answers channel? | 20:07 |
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| TemeV | oh, come on, why don't we just have one #channel and have all the discussion there? | 20:09 |
| TemeV | you can't just randomly merge two subjects under one channel | 20:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | #askmeanything | 20:10 |
| kimmoli | shh... i'm watching mythbusters now | 20:11 |
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| r0kk3rz | what are they blowing up this time? | 20:12 |
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| tbr | r0kk3rz: yes, the pdf files come out black on white though | 20:13 |
| tbr | kimmoli: microwaving it is your choice... I'll go with the built in pushbutton erase ;) | 20:13 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: yeah i saw that, i presume the screen tech requires black on white | 20:13 |
| r0kk3rz | no etch-a-sketch shake? sad | 20:14 |
| tbr | quite likely | 20:14 |
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| tbr | apparently it repolarizes the liquid crystal at the pressure of the pen (or any object really, but only the pen is also registered on the pdf file) | 20:14 |
| r0kk3rz | interesting idea | 20:16 |
| r0kk3rz | would be reasonably low power then | 20:16 |
| tbr | the pads that don't do recording and are just resettable have obscenely low power consumption. | 20:17 |
| tbr | as it only needs to apply voltage to erase by repolarizing | 20:17 |
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| stephg | anyone notice any abberant behaviour with the OOM killer in 1.1.2.x | 20:40 |
| stephg | have had it kill Gallery opening large jpegs (fine) but now the Browser when 'no other apps' were running and also the media player | 20:42 |
| Nicd- | I've found the best thing to do is to just reboot the phone every 10 days :D | 20:43 |
| Nicd- | much less oom issues | 20:43 |
| stephg | well I never really had them before that's why I was asking :) | 20:44 |
| stephg | also, completely unrelated, is there anyone here who hasn't factory reset their phone in a (long) time that also has FB enabled and also has, say, more than 300 friends? | 20:45 |
| Nicd- | I matched until the last part | 20:45 |
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| stephg | Nicd: do you remember if you've added/removed that FB acount more than once? | 20:46 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah i was sure if it was the OOM killer or if the browser was just crashing | 20:46 |
| r0kk3rz | *wasnt | 20:47 |
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| stephg | r0kk3rz: OOM is fairly descriptive about what it's up to in the ring buffer | 20:47 |
| Nicd- | stephg: I did remove and readd it maybe a month or two ago | 20:47 |
| stephg | ooo | 20:47 |
| stephg | good :) | 20:47 |
| stephg | Nicd-: can you do a quick df -k for me in /home/nemo/.local/share/system/Contacts | 20:49 |
| stephg | actually just in /home/nemo/.local/share/system/ | 20:49 |
| Nicd- | /dev/mmcbkl0p28 14415852 7471332 6153452 55% /home | 20:50 |
| Nicd- | ah, I did it wrong | 20:51 |
| Nicd- | so much output, gotta ssh in and gist | 20:51 |
| stephg | kk | 20:52 |
| stephg | sorry | 20:52 |
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| stephg | not df, du | 20:53 |
| stephg | du -sk /home/nemo/.local/share/system/* | 20:53 |
| Nicd- | yeah, that's what I thought | 20:53 |
| * stephg doing 3 things at once | 20:53 | |
| Mikaela | those two commands are very easy to confuse | 20:53 |
| Nicd- | 2940 /home/nemo/.local/share/system/Contacts | 20:53 |
| Nicd- | du: `/home/nemo/.local/share/system/privileged': Permission denied | 20:53 |
| stephg | gah I also mean in privileged | 20:54 |
| Nicd- | privileged is 39336 | 20:54 |
| stephg | .... privileged/Contacts | 20:54 |
| Nicd- | 24376 | 20:55 |
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| stephg | roughly how many friends if you don't mind me asking? and I don't know if the Friends app uses the same cache or not but do you use taht too? | 20:55 |
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| stephg | reason I ask is I only reset my Jolla in Dec '13 but for the last mumble months have been filling my btrfs metadata | 20:57 |
| stephg | decided to clean up my btrfs snapshots but there weren't any, so went hunting for disk space usage | 20:57 |
| Nicd- | 96 friends | 20:57 |
| Nicd- | I don't use friends. I used to but haven't in a long time | 20:58 |
| stephg | mail app was one (fine) but I had about 800MB of cached files in privileged/Contacts | 20:58 |
| stephg | ~400 friends for me | 20:58 |
| stephg | dunno how many times in that time I removed and readded the account | 20:58 |
| stephg | but it accounted for an awful lot of my metadata usage | 20:58 |
| stephg | about 2GB | 20:58 |
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| stephg | taking drones to the next level: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uJnivXGy0k | 22:49 |
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| stephg | and with taht, niiight | 22:50 |
| stephg | (from the bird's pov: https://instagram.com/p/0P2GC9wGtf/ ) | 22:52 |
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