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| baum | why does "QCamera::availableDevices().count()" return 0 ? | 08:13 |
|---|---|---|
| baum | shouldn't it return 2? | 08:13 |
| Stskeeps | did you request camera resource? | 08:14 |
| uuhimhere | does torvalds have a jolla? | 08:14 |
| Stskeeps | his father does, afaik | 08:14 |
| uuhimhere | lol srsly? | 08:15 |
| pp | it's much more usable in .fi | 08:15 |
| tbr | he'd throw quite a few public hissy fits if he'd try to use it in the US | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | not to mention our perverted closed source .ko's | 08:16 |
| tbr | the best you can get out of it over there seems to be GSM/EDGE | 08:16 |
| tbr | ha, yes... | 08:16 |
| baum | Stskeeps: uhm, what do you mean by request camera resource? | 08:16 |
| Stskeeps | baum: there's a resource policy framework where you request let's say, audio, camera access, etc | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | as you can't have two apps doing both | 08:17 |
| tbr | did anyone ever bother to rebuild the wifi module. The open source version should be a drop in replacement and 'only' void certification. ;) | 08:17 |
| Stskeeps | tbr: supposedly it has it's own pains | 08:17 |
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| baum | Stskeeps: oh alright, thanks! is it a QT framework or something SailFish specific? | 08:18 |
| Stskeeps | sailfish-meego-maemo-ish thing | 08:18 |
| baum | Stskeeps: alright, thanks again, if you by chance recall the name of the framework please let me know :) | 08:20 |
| * baum starts crawling the web | 08:20 | |
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| Nicd- | baum: Qt* :) | 08:21 |
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| Hartzi | QT = QuickTime ;) | 08:24 |
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| * baum *scratches head* QuickTime !? | 08:27 | |
| Nicd- | baum: he means QT is QuickTime, Qt is the Qt Framework :) | 08:28 |
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| baum | Nicd-: ahh got it, my bad | 08:29 |
| Teemu | overloading semantics based on case sensitivity might backfire pretty easily | 08:31 |
| coderus | Battery Overlay updated to v0.2.0 with tons of new features! https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/battery-overlay | 08:32 |
| Hartzi | coderus: looks nice! | 08:34 |
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| Stskeeps | tbr: what the.. | 08:51 |
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| tbr | Stskeeps: and it's not even original, look at the reddit page, many people built things like that | 08:51 |
| * Stskeeps adds that guy to a probably hire list.. | 08:53 | |
| * tbr sobs quietly | 08:53 | |
| Teemu | waht? | 08:54 |
| * anYc throws EContextNotFound | 08:54 | |
| * baum is still searching the camera-resource requesting thing.....these papers are hiding well....=/ | 08:55 | |
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| uuhimhere | Stskeeps, so what exactly do you do with jolla? | 08:57 |
| Stskeeps | uuhimhere: irc bot | 08:57 |
| lainwir3d__ | hi everyone | 08:58 |
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| tiwake | lol | 09:04 |
| coderus | lainwir3d__: hi you | 09:06 |
| uuhimhere | uuhimhere, nice so we can expect like a sentient A.I. on sailfish OS sometime soon? | 09:06 |
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| Teemu | that is what stskeep is | 10:29 |
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| HtheB | ok something is defenitally wrong with my phone :/ | 11:35 |
| HtheB | when I was in conversation, my phone shut off AGAIN | 11:35 |
| HtheB | I went to the calender app to see a date, while in conversation | 11:35 |
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| HtheB | and poof, phone turned off :/ | 11:35 |
| HtheB | i was in a very important conversation :/ | 11:36 |
| Joonaa | HtheB: have you tried: this with the side of your battery, push the three battery connector pins in to the device, and allow them to pop back out again. Only push them in in their natural range of motion. Please repeat this process about 10-15 times. It is critical that you move all three pins at the same time to avoid damaging individual pins | 11:37 |
| Joonaa | i got that reply from jolla support when i had in issue with phone shutting off | 11:37 |
| HtheB | i got that reply too | 11:37 |
| HtheB | design flaw? | 11:37 |
| HtheB | Joonaa: did it help for you? | 11:39 |
| Joonaa | HtheB: yeah, did that a few weeks back and havent had any problems since | 11:40 |
| Joonaa | though, i havent also received any calls :) | 11:40 |
| HtheB | ok, done | 11:40 |
| HtheB | lets see if we will get that error again | 11:40 |
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| HtheB | is it techinically possible to have a hotswappable simcard? | 11:47 |
| ggabriel | i've been able to hot swap sim cards since the n9 | 11:48 |
| ggabriel | the jolla complaints but i ignore it :P | 11:48 |
| HtheB | ggabriel: does it work? | 11:48 |
| HtheB | i havent tested it | 11:48 |
| ggabriel | it does for me | 11:48 |
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| ggabriel | i asked months ago if the error/warning was ever going to go away and i was told "yes" | 11:49 |
| HtheB | lol | 11:49 |
| HtheB | indeed | 11:49 |
| HtheB | :D | 11:49 |
| HtheB | just changed simcard, ignored the message | 11:49 |
| HtheB | and it works | 11:49 |
| HtheB | i was trolled by Jolla with that "restart now" message :p | 11:50 |
| kjetilho | HtheB: no airplane mode first? | 11:51 |
| kjetilho | sounds a bit scary | 11:51 |
| * ggabriel likes to live his life dangerously | 11:56 | |
| HtheB | kjetilho: i always do airplane mode | 11:56 |
| rigo | congrats for the award folks! A lot of coverage and love from the press | 11:57 |
| ggabriel | yeah, now i want my tablet tho | 11:57 |
| HtheB | kjetilho: even if you have it on airplane mode, it still gives the same error :P | 11:57 |
| Joonaa | HtheB: at least it worked with my android tablet... thats how i reset my internet connection on it :P | 11:59 |
| Joonaa | everything else is too slow! | 11:59 |
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| HtheB | Joonaa: ? | 12:00 |
| Joonaa | hotswapping sim cards | 12:00 |
| Joonaa | well, i just took it out and put it back in :) | 12:00 |
| HtheB | ah xD | 12:00 |
| HtheB | lol | 12:00 |
| HtheB | thats another method to reset connection xD | 12:00 |
| Joonaa | seriously, it doesnt have a button to restart the connection | 12:00 |
| HtheB | I just installed "reduce time patch" | 12:00 |
| HtheB | WHAT A RELIEF! | 12:00 |
| Joonaa | you either reboot, or change to 2G and back to 4G | 12:01 |
| Joonaa | ... or take out the sim! | 12:01 |
| HtheB | Or use Sailfish Utilities to restart connection? :P | 12:01 |
| Joonaa | oh, android tablet :p | 12:02 |
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| HtheB | Joonaa: rofl | 12:16 |
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| HtheB | anyone know if it's possible to use the NFC reader for something (with a patch)? | 12:28 |
| HtheB | is it technically possible* | 12:28 |
| unbreakable | NFC == Netherlands Fried Chicken? | 12:28 |
| * unbreakable slaps himself | 12:29 | |
| unbreakable | that was horrible, even for me. sorry | 12:29 |
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| xfade_ | HtheB: If you use the small tags and press the button on the back. | 12:36 |
| HtheB | unbreakable: Netherlands f*cks collegegirls? | 12:40 |
| HtheB | xfade_: button!? which button? | 12:40 |
| unbreakable | HtheB, ....Okay... | 12:40 |
| HtheB | unbreakable: thats even more worse xD | 12:41 |
| * unbreakable unslaps himself | 12:41 | |
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| Stskeeps | soo, who broke talk.maemo.org | 12:41 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 12:41 |
| HtheB | xfade_: lol, i just notice that there is indeed a button on the right side O_o | 12:41 |
| HtheB | didn't notice that untill now! | 12:41 |
| unbreakable | Stskeeps, docscrutinizer with all of his neo900 updates | 12:42 |
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| HtheB | Stskeeps: works fine over here | 12:43 |
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| Joonaa | HtheB theres a 4th button_ | 13:01 |
| Joonaa | ?* | 13:01 |
| HtheB | Joonaa: yes, open up your back cover | 13:02 |
| HtheB | its on the right side | 13:02 |
| HtheB | of your device | 13:02 |
| Joonaa | ... wow | 13:02 |
| Joonaa | im going to need some help finding it though.. | 13:03 |
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| Joonaa | HtheB? | 13:05 |
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| Joonaa | oh.. | 13:06 |
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| unbreakable | derp derp | 13:06 |
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| HtheB | Joonaa: sorry disconnected | 13:07 |
| Joonaa | right, so where is that button? :o | 13:07 |
| HtheB | have you seen it? | 13:07 |
| Joonaa | i cant figure this out! | 13:07 |
| Joonaa | its like a puzzle | 13:07 |
| HtheB | look on teh back side of your cover | 13:07 |
| HtheB | you see that a pin is sticking out | 13:07 |
| HtheB | that is where the button is :) | 13:07 |
| Joonaa | .... ohhhh | 13:07 |
| Joonaa | well, thats not much of a button to press :P | 13:08 |
| HtheB | its used to detect if there is a cover on or not | 13:08 |
| HtheB | well, if you want to use the NFC, you need to press that button | 13:08 |
| Joonaa | ah | 13:08 |
| HtheB | and hold the NFC tag above it | 13:08 |
| HtheB | (above the nfc reader) | 13:08 |
| Joonaa | right | 13:09 |
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| HtheB | ebola_luvr: lol wut? | 13:26 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: what is broke? | 13:33 |
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| Nicd- | ebola_luvr: I think people would appreciate if you sticked to one nickname or at least similar ones :P | 13:42 |
| kimmoli | Joonaa: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1414977#post1414977 | 13:42 |
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| illusionz_fail | Nicd-, hows that? | 13:44 |
| Nicd- | because we can't follow who we are talking to :P | 13:44 |
| illusionz_fail | Nicd-, the only thing''s been said to me here so far's been along the lines of "<HtheB> unbreakable: Netherlands f*cks collegegirls?" | 13:47 |
| illusionz_fail | so i guess im not missing out on much | 13:47 |
| Nicd- | (today) | 13:47 |
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| HtheB | kimmoli: I was the one that was asking for that :p | 13:48 |
| HtheB | kimmoli: so we can actually use the nfc reader to use other nfc tags? (sure, we need to take out the cover) | 13:49 |
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| kimmoli | ah ok | 13:56 |
| kimmoli | found this from MWC, http://ams.com/eng/Products/NFC-HF-RFID/NFC-HF-Booster/AS3922 | 13:56 |
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| kimmoli | HtheB: the integrated NFC is most propably not usable for anything else. just tested with few larger IDs, and... nothing | 14:00 |
| HtheB | not even vcards? | 14:00 |
| kimmoli | have to check when i find my kit of different tags | 14:01 |
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| chem|st | HtheB: all tags I have on cards do not work | 14:02 |
| HtheB | hmm :( | 14:03 |
| HtheB | too bad :( | 14:03 |
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| lazy_bum | phlixi: No, no IMAP. And I have a full PC, but dont know how thats related to multiple mail delete in Jolla. ;) | 14:12 |
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| lazy_bum | phlixi: Would be great to have a function similar to Lumias - autopurge mail older then "X days". | 14:12 |
| lazy_bum | phlixi: Don't know what the X is and I suppose its not configurable, but its a nice feature. | 14:13 |
| lazy_bum | phlixi: I dont need complete email history in my phone, but I use it when I'm away from PC/laptop. | 14:13 |
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| Stskeeps | Terry Pratchett died. http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31858156 | 15:28 |
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| HtheB | Stskeeps: never heard of him before, but RIP :( | 15:41 |
| Stskeeps | ah, you should read his books | 15:42 |
| HtheB | to be honest, I dont like books :( | 15:42 |
| HtheB | but I do like digital novels :P | 15:42 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: a geek that has not read pratchett? should ban him! | 15:43 |
| * HtheB is not a geek | 15:43 | |
| TemeV | you're in irc, it means you're geek | 15:44 |
| chem|st | HtheB: 70+ books and being in an IRC channel all day long is part of being a geek | 15:44 |
| chem|st | TemeV: +1 | 15:44 |
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| HtheB | TemeV: i'm using webchat... | 15:45 |
| tadzik | entry drug is still a drug :P | 15:45 |
| HtheB | I'm a nerd, not a geek :P | 15:45 |
| TemeV | :) | 15:45 |
| chem|st | HtheB: knowing where to webchat to IRC is even scary... | 15:45 |
| HtheB | hahahha | 15:45 |
| HtheB | www.freenode.net ? :P | 15:46 |
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| TemeV | and knowing that webchat is less geek makes you more geek :) | 15:46 |
| HtheB | or direct link: http://webchat.freenode.net | 15:46 |
| HtheB | I'm a gamer :P | 15:46 |
| trt` | :D | 15:47 |
| HtheB | http://www.htheb.com/list/images/collection/new/01.jpg | 15:47 |
| chem|st | HtheB: geek is eccentric, to be on a webchat IRC client in a channel for a linux mobile phone is probably eccentric and for sure non-mainstream | 15:48 |
| HtheB | :D | 15:48 |
| HtheB | sssh | 15:48 |
| HtheB | well, a real geek doesn't read books you know... :P | 15:48 |
| chem|st | and if you classify as nerd even worse | 15:48 |
| tadzik | ooh, n900 with the thingy | 15:48 |
| HtheB | I even never did a "RTFM" | 15:48 |
| HtheB | tadzik: Game Gripper | 15:48 |
| tadzik | right :) | 15:49 |
| HtheB | http://www.htheb.com/list/index.php?dir=images%2Fcollection%2Fnew%2F | 15:49 |
| HtheB | more pics | 15:49 |
| tadzik | ah. I was about to say that with those predictable URLs you could just unable autoindex :P | 15:49 |
| chem|st | HtheB: then you are either brave or stupid, or even both which usually ends in an early death, how old are you? | 15:49 |
| HtheB | 27 | 15:50 |
| chem|st | hmm, you probably die this year | 15:50 |
| chem|st | james dean effect | 15:50 |
| HtheB | will I get a prize if I don't die? :p | 15:50 |
| chem|st | no you just wont join the 27 club | 15:51 |
| HtheB | neither do you | 15:51 |
| chem|st | well I am way ahead of 27 | 15:51 |
| HtheB | thats why :) | 15:51 |
| chem|st | well and you are no musician^^ | 15:52 |
| HtheB | https://itunes.apple.com/en/artist/HtheB/id327075183 | 15:54 |
| HtheB | :D | 15:56 |
| tadzik | Rekt status: ☑ rekt ☐ not rekt | 15:56 |
| tadzik | :P | 15:56 |
| HtheB | :D :D :D :D | 15:57 |
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| coderus | quick random question: Jolla Tablet will have same aliendalvik as in Jolla Phone now? | 16:17 |
| ggabriel | coderus: iirc, that is the case as advertised | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | coderus: at least it's my goal it'll have a 4.4.4 based one; both phone and tablet using same codelin | 16:18 |
| Stskeeps | e | 16:19 |
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| scottc | so excited for Jolla Tablet | 16:26 |
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| coderus | Stskeeps: oh kitkat, thats cool. because there is many android apps using api requires 4.3 aor 4.4 :D | 16:32 |
| coderus | thanks | 16:32 |
| Teemu | what about tupla or raider based dalvik? | 16:32 |
| Morpog_PC | so that means phone is getting an update to 4.4.4? | 16:32 |
| Morpog_PC | even kernel? | 16:32 |
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| Stskeeps | Morpog_PC: who needs the kernel part | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | no promises; but just an aim | 16:34 |
| Morpog_PC | well, like better btrfs support comes to my mind :D | 16:34 |
| Stskeeps | kernel isn't likely to change on phone | 16:35 |
| Morpog_PC | i thought so | 16:35 |
| coderus | in my mind btrfs need at least 3.8 kernel patches, no? | 16:35 |
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| coderus | can anyone give me jhakala email? he tried to ping me in irc private, but i was afk, and now he left :D | 16:38 |
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| Ponchale | I am still awaiting a response :( | 17:02 |
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| Mikaela | to what? | 17:04 |
| mariod | hello everyone :) | 17:04 |
| Mikaela | hi | 17:04 |
| mariod | hello Mikaela :) | 17:04 |
| Ponchale | a proposal to send several days ago :/ | 17:05 |
| Ponchale | hello Mikaela | 17:05 |
| mariod | hello Ponchale :) | 17:05 |
| Ponchale | how are you | 17:05 |
| Ponchale | hello mariod how are you | 17:05 |
| Mikaela | not too well and you? | 17:05 |
| mariod | thank you ... doing quite ok here ... and you? | 17:05 |
| mariod | aww ... sorry to hear that Mikaela | 17:06 |
| Ponchale | well well thanks to the creator | 17:06 |
| Ponchale | While downloading MER bienn here and doing some testing and validations | 17:07 |
| mariod | are you referring to God here? *trying to understand* | 17:07 |
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| mariod | Hallo Sail0r :) | 17:07 |
| Ponchale | if I mean when I say God creator | 17:08 |
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| mariod | to you Jolla phone users ... one question ... i noticed something ... the display-brightness ... is it normal that by setting it to half of the bar it's still as bright as if you set it to the lowest setting? | 17:09 |
| mariod | am not exactly sure what you're saying right now Ponchale | 17:09 |
| Sail0r | hi mariod | 17:11 |
| HtheB | Ponchale: I'm sure Stskeeps (or the right person) will reply | 17:11 |
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| Ponchale | have thought of putting RSA calls to hinder the intersection of these? | 17:13 |
| mariod | 0 | - - - - - | - - - - - | max | 17:13 |
| mariod | to me setting the brightness to half of the bar is the same as if i were to set it to zero | 17:14 |
| Mikaela | was there some brightness sensor that was used or something? I always have it as 0 | 17:14 |
| Ponchale | or SSL | 17:14 |
| mariod | i didn't do anything | 17:14 |
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| mariod | brb - phone call | 17:15 |
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| Stskeeps | chem|st: You don't have permission to access / on this server. | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: see quite often | 17:58 |
| Stskeeps | Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) Server at talk.maemo.org Port 80 | 17:58 |
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| Morpog_PC | mariod, to have a difference disable automatic light sensor | 18:08 |
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| mariod | brb again ... reboot | 18:17 |
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| Gordon` | hi | 18:49 |
| Gordon` | Due to a sceen failure, I replaced my 1-year-old Jolla with a new one three months ago. With the first one, I had very frequent crashes, (at those moments, the phone crashed again immediately after SIM activasion, after the reboot) | 18:50 |
| Gordon` | since 5 days, I have this syndrom back, on the (complete) new phone | 18:51 |
| Gordon` | it could be linked to the fact that, since 5 days, I own a bluetooth headset, and since that day, the battery goes down much faster | 18:52 |
| Gordon` | and the reboots occurs at the end of days (battery is near 50-60%) | 18:52 |
| Gordon` | but when a crash occurs, if I plug the phone to a power source, it seems that the crashes stop | 18:54 |
| Gordon` | do anyone has encountered that (very annoying) problem? | 18:54 |
| Gordon` | TMO seems quieter about reboots | 18:54 |
| r0kk3rz | Gordon`: sounds like the clean battery terminals treatment is what you need | 18:54 |
| Gordon` | TJC* not TMO | 18:54 |
| r0kk3rz | TJC is quiet because we know what causes it, and we cant do anything to fix it | 18:55 |
| Gordon` | r0kk3rz: I did that for my old phone, and it fixed that… for a short time | 18:55 |
| r0kk3rz | other than temp fix | 18:55 |
| r0kk3rz | you could probably permafix it by modifying the battery terminals, but that would void your warranty for sure | 18:56 |
| Gordon` | can I visually see if my connectors are oxidized (or anything else)? | 18:56 |
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| Gordon` | and does the problem come from a factory default on the battery? Does it concern every phone? | 18:58 |
| r0kk3rz | it appears to be the result of materials/design flaw | 18:59 |
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| r0kk3rz | it could also be an issue with upower, and how it calculates how much battery is remaining | 19:00 |
| r0kk3rz | but it seems to come to all jolla phones at some point, some sooner, some later | 19:01 |
| Gordon` | since you mention it… when it reboots, the screen shows the “plz human, can I haz power?” logo | 19:01 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 19:01 |
| r0kk3rz | clean terminals | 19:02 |
| r0kk3rz | is the only real advice anyone will give you | 19:02 |
| Gordon` | is there a video or something showing how to do it properly? | 19:03 |
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| TemeV | use something soft that doesnt destroy the coating of the terminals | 19:39 |
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| TemeV | it think someone said pencil eraser works fine | 19:39 |
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| Teemu | some erasers are abrasive but most are okay | 19:41 |
| Teemu | ... from general experience of fixing things for decades | 19:41 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: that is not a bug that is our blacklist | 19:45 |
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| pavi | I feelmy jolla has been discharging more after update 11 ! I remember seeing an issue in TJC | 19:56 |
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| chem|st | pavi: mine startet to discharging ever since I put the battery in and I cannot get it to stop... and when I use it, it is discharging even faster... | 20:00 |
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| pavi | chem|st: lol good one . :P I am talking about rate of discharges when you compare update 9 vs Update 11 . Update 11 is sucking more juice ! | 20:02 |
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| chem|st | pavi: without you knowing the date you last charged you cannot tell if it is any faster | 20:03 |
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| chem|st | look for processes hogging the cpu more than usual is all you can do, if there is nothing to see then it is probably just a feeling (I also have the feeling that it is going down faster but I guess using a phone will drain its battery... but we are still way better than those 2 days you get out of an android 4.2 device) | 20:06 |
| kimmoli | powertop might be better than regular top for hunting down friends eating your battery | 20:08 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: you need no powertop to see that lipstick is hung >14% cpu usage | 20:09 |
| kimmoli | yes, not for that | 20:09 |
| chem|st | pavi: so yeah "out of the usual" is anything above 2-3% when idle | 20:10 |
| pavi | kimmoli: powertop is a good idea . The reason I know that its relatively discharging was because of my use case. I rarely do much with phone it lies around | 20:10 |
| pavi | Its just connected to Wifi which drains the battery . I keep checking some android apps but I make sure that android apps are killed | 20:10 |
| kimmoli | so , is it considered as heavy use if one gets battery empty during one day? | 20:11 |
| chem|st | pavi: I have one without sim in my drawer... 92% battery after a day 86% after two, 82% after three, then I used it for 5 minutes and it got punched down to 72% | 20:11 |
| Nicd- | you should also kill alien dalvik | 20:11 |
| Teemu | is there an app for that? | 20:11 |
| kimmoli | that saves a lot | 20:11 |
| Teemu | or shortcut or whatever | 20:12 |
| kimmoli | killdroid, or sailfish utilities | 20:12 |
| pavi | Nicd-: yeah I kill alien dalvik and yes there is an app for it Teemu | 20:12 |
| chem|st | Teemu: systemctl stop aliendalvik.path; systemctl stop aliendalvik.service | 20:12 |
| chem|st | sailfish utilities got an update, lets hope it does stop the .path | 20:13 |
| chem|st | it has not done so before | 20:13 |
| kimmoli | ah. hmm. | 20:13 |
| TheParanoid | Hy sorry to crash your party. I am new to Sailfish OS and considering to buy tablet and mobile. How secure is sailfish in terns of permissions for Android? Thx | 20:13 |
| kimmoli | i need to merge update to my fork | 20:13 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: sailfish doesnt have app permissions yet . so its not secure :P | 20:14 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: it is getting more and more sorted out to have vailable data available, it does not have access to the cores system though | 20:14 |
| chem|st | pavi: lol | 20:14 |
| TheParanoid | Can i restrict access to certain functions? | 20:15 |
| chem|st | pavi: if you believe that is what makes android secure you are very wrong | 20:15 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: you can definitely restrict the android apps to not access much of sailfish os | 20:15 |
| TheParanoid | Like uids and stuff? | 20:15 |
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| pavi | TheParanoid: Some of the good sailfish apps come with source code hosted at github , so you can trust them. They are available at open source repository called warehouse. | 20:16 |
| chem|st | pavi: the repo is called openrepos | 20:17 |
| pavi | chem|st: I know I am wrong :P I was waiting for some replies :D | 20:17 |
| chem|st | or actually that is only a repo distribution system | 20:17 |
| ortylp | chem|st: can you explain what are the preconditions to android seeing btrfs formatted sdcard mounted under /home/nemo/sdcard or /home/nemo/android_storage/sdcard. I had already working setup after last system update, but after reboot it does not work any more. sdcard is mounted where I specified it in /etc/fstab, but android apps have no access to it | 20:18 |
| TheParanoid | I read that Android Apps are sandboxed, but If they need access to pictures or contacts, what is it good for? | 20:18 |
| chem|st | ortylp: fstab? | 20:18 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: what did i do now.. :P | 20:18 |
| chem|st | ortylp: fstab is created dynamically in sailfish... | 20:18 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: no idea, some TOR proxies are blacklisted... some mobile NAT IPs, it is a BOFH blacklist as we have issues with china and korea trying to hijack accounts | 20:19 |
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| Stskeeps | hmm | 20:19 |
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| chem|st | but it is either not working well or overdoing it as I now get both, complains about login attempts and people running into the filter | 20:20 |
| TheParanoid | pavi: Can I hide close to everything from Apks and only give certain rights, like acess to the web,, but not to IMEI or location? Can I define that in a script/ as a rule or as a group/ user permissi… | 20:20 |
| TheParanoid | …on? | 20:20 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: sandboxing keeps androids grubby fingers away from the core system, accounts, networking etc | 20:21 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: even I would like that . But I am not sure if such fain grained permissions are possible app by app. But I am somehow curious and optimistic that it could be done to the alien dalvika s awhole | 20:22 |
| chem|st | the sandboxing should actually already take care of that | 20:22 |
| pavi | alien dalvik is android on sailfishos | 20:22 |
| ortylp | chem|st: not really, the contents of /etc/fstab are as I left them before reboot | 20:22 |
| ortylp | chem|st: fstab:/dev/mmcblk1p1 /home/nemo/android_storage/sdcard btrfs noatime,user 0 0 | 20:23 |
| chem|st | ortylp: as I do not know what you did or how you did it I can only advice to what I already wrote in the how-to | 20:23 |
| ortylp | chem|st: mount: /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /home/nemo/android_storage/sdcard type btrfs (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,noatime,thread_pool=4,ssd,noacl,space_cache,user) | 20:23 |
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| chem|st | ortylp: oh that is wrong from the start... | 20:23 |
| ortylp | chem|st: I see, now I need to understand what is wrong | 20:24 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: chem|st there was also some discussion at https://together.jolla.com/question/44703/deny-specific-permissions-to-android-apps/ | 20:24 |
| TheParanoid | pavi: i understand that, but switching from a custom Android Rom to Sailfish needs to give me some opportunities. As far as I can see atm there is none, which i couldn't handle with root permissions a… | 20:24 |
| TheParanoid | …nd firewalling/ iptables and such. Am I wrong? I hope so! Saw the Jolla tablet at MWC and liked it a lot! | 20:24 |
| chem|st | ortylp: you are about the normal sdcard and not about the android storage right? | 20:24 |
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| ortylp | chem|st: therefore before I start poking around I wanted to know the "why" | 20:25 |
| ortylp | chem|st: I am talking about the external sdcard | 20:25 |
| chem|st | ortylp: do you have your sdcard split into subvolumes? | 20:25 |
| chem|st | ortylp: sure external sdcard | 20:25 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: But there is Iptables installed by default on my jolla phone | 20:25 |
| ortylp | chem|st: no, only /dev/mmcblk1p1 | 20:25 |
| ortylp | chem|st: or should I do it on raw device: /dev/mmcblk1 | 20:26 |
| chem|st | ortylp: hehe... ok then revert all cahnges you did so far! | 20:26 |
| TheParanoid | pavi: =) i also read here fstab and htop, sounds like a full fledged Linux to me, which i like! | 20:27 |
| chem|st | ortylp: you screwd up the mount, you mounted to a place that is no more available after alien started | 20:27 |
| ortylp | chem|st: the only change would be remove the fstab line, or you mean something else | 20:27 |
| chem|st | ortylp: if the fstab entry is all you did, yes | 20:27 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: believe it or not , while you were talking with me. I am on my laptop. I opened a SSH shell connection and have just installed powertop using "pkcon install powertop" and I am checking out how my phone is discharging | 20:27 |
| ortylp | chem|st: after formating to btrfs, yes | 20:28 |
| chem|st | you don't have any systemd services or stuff? | 20:28 |
| ortylp | chem|st: no, no systemd, I do not touch things, I do not understand :P | 20:29 |
| chem|st | ortylp: ok then remove the fstab entry first | 20:29 |
| ortylp | chem|st: done | 20:29 |
| ortylp | chem|st: reboot now? | 20:29 |
| chem|st | if you want to have the sdcard available from within the sandbox you need to add the bindmount, | 20:30 |
| TheParanoid | So you want to make me believe, that you can compileclose to any linix software to run on sailfish? | 20:30 |
| chem|st | no don't reboot | 20:30 |
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| pavi | TheParanoid: Yeah . go to https://openrepos.net/ and select sailfish os and you can see the list of apps in the repos. you can see many familiar linux apps. | 20:31 |
| chem|st | ortylp: in /opt/alien/system/scrips/alien.sh you need to add "media" to the indexing line and to the -rbind funktion | 20:31 |
| TheParanoid | Would i be able to get libreOffice working on sailfish? Thunderbird? | 20:32 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: nginx,vim,iptables,openssl and lot more ;) | 20:32 |
| TheParanoid | Well vi is unlike LibreOffice =) | 20:32 |
| ortylp | chem|st: .. I am analysing /opt/alien/system/scrips/alien.sh ... work in progress... | 20:33 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: no libre office or thunderbird yet . But you can help port them .It needs to be rewritten in QML | 20:33 |
| pavi | ^ And its a lot of work :P | 20:33 |
| TheParanoid | I amnot that proficient :( | 20:33 |
| chem|st | ortylp: webpad it somewhere and I show you | 20:33 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: check this proposal to port Koffice https://together.jolla.com/question/65413/port-calligra-gemini-to-sailfishos-as-native-office-suite/ | 20:33 |
| chem|st | pavi: libr office, thunderbird? this is no desktop^^ | 20:34 |
| pavi | chem|st: did you use N900 :P I come from there :D | 20:34 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: how about latex and vi, that is even more powerful than libreoffice... | 20:34 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: here is another request for thunderbird https://together.jolla.com/question/67173/request-jolla-tablet-please-port-thunderbird/ | 20:34 |
| chem|st | pavi: lol you are seriously referring to debian running on an 4" screen slow as hell with desktop versions of programs?! | 20:35 |
| chem|st | pavi: buy a netbook! | 20:35 |
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| TheParanoid | Latex is great, but i receive a lot of office documents. So i need a viewer and often also to edit the doc | 20:36 |
| pavi | chem|st: forget the phone users , what about tablet ? Doesn't it need an office suite or a decent email program like thunderbird ? | 20:36 |
| ortylp | chem|st: no idea what "webpad" is... I am trying to correlate your description from TJC with my alien.sh | 20:36 |
| chem|st | pavi: thunderbird is bare BS just like firefox, both unbareable bloatware now with builtin stuff that makes me wonder if the NSA is behind it | 20:36 |
| chem|st | ortylp: etherpad | 20:36 |
| chem|st | ortylp: the tjc is "move" data from bind to rbind, you want to add "media" | 20:37 |
| pavi | chem|st: ok lets assume they are bad , what about kmail ? | 20:37 |
| TheParanoid | chem|st: what is the alternative? | 20:37 |
| pavi | or koffice | 20:37 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: alternative to thunderbird? what functionality? email? emailclient is there | 20:38 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: all I could say is as more people get the tablet I am sure those two things would be ported. | 20:38 |
| pavi | chem|st: yeah the email client on the phone really needs a lot of patch up. | 20:38 |
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| TheParanoid | I need some serious office stuff on the Jolla Tablet. | 20:38 |
| chem|st | and if you think you get all functionality of thunderbird just by porting it you are wrong, all missing backend things like mime and pgp will not work on thunderbird either | 20:39 |
| pavi | I just now replied to the PGP thread https://together.jolla.com/question/80737/cryptmee-port-to-sailfish-for-gpg-support/ | 20:39 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: jolla-office is opensource! | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | well, all the native jolla apps are going to want working over for the tablet | 20:39 |
| chem|st | pavi: cryptmee is no solution it is a disease | 20:39 |
| pavi | chem|st: Jolla office is just a document viewer. | 20:39 |
| TheParanoid | And i need exchange functionality with some good filtering. Any good email client with gnupg support will do. | 20:40 |
| chem|st | pavi: what didn't you understand in "it is opensource"? | 20:40 |
| pavi | chem|st: that it could be improved, agreed and noted :) | 20:40 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: for now you need to find the android solution for that as all requests now +14 months old did not get us anywhere | 20:41 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: there is an exchange app by Jolla if you are interested. I didnt try it out. | 20:41 |
| pavi | I mean the app was named outlook ? | 20:41 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: MSexchange should work, filtering not, but calendar and contacts should work | 20:42 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: I agree with chem|st these are long standing issues and they are going no where atleast for now. There is some hackish solutions coming around and I am kind of happy with it ;) | 20:42 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: I am waiting for GPG and SIP since I got the phone and I am in the first 1k users | 20:43 |
| TheParanoid | I would bare with it all, if i could be sure, to keep advertisers, the nsa and others away from my data. | 20:44 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: basically you are in control over the device, but mistakes may happen, do you have friends? | 20:44 |
| TheParanoid | But i can not stop using PGP, nor will I sacrifice office functions. Can sailfish deliver? Now? | 20:45 |
| chem|st | I have friends using whatsapp, hike.in, google accounts, microsoft whatever stuff... uploading MY data everywhere without thinking about it, you cannot protect your privacy if you got friends not respecting your privacy | 20:45 |
| TheParanoid | I have friends, they use Facebook and share my data °° | 20:45 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: no it cannot if you do not have an android solution for it | 20:46 |
| rigo | chem|st: hm, in that case give them misinformation to distribute, that's a cute distraction | 20:46 |
| TheParanoid | But i can protect most of my stuff and u do not want to switch os for a worse experience that wont be better than before. | 20:47 |
| chem|st | we all hope that the Sailfish Security announcement will bring "enterprise" and "encryption" to our devices | 20:47 |
| rigo | TheParanoid: depends on you. Try to get kontact.mobile running on your device. I had it running on my N9, but it was not every usable | 20:48 |
| TheParanoid | I am quite happy with slimrom, a firewall and an adblocker. All w/o google. | 20:48 |
| r0kk3rz | i cant see them running a sailfish fork for extra security | 20:48 |
| chem|st | rigo: right I give my friends a wrong phone number and they do not know my birthday... or where I live | 20:48 |
| rigo | chem|st: and that you're an Apple afficionado and ... | 20:49 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: well, there is no google or samsung BS shipping with alien-dalvik, | 20:49 |
| r0kk3rz | but the branding is wrong, just like you cant have an iphone 6+ without an iphone6- | 20:49 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: no google accounts/settings (no idea what it is called) | 20:49 |
| r0kk3rz | you cant have a sailfish secure without a sailfish insecure | 20:49 |
| rigo | I bet you can ruin your privacy with a jolla too by installing all the spies if you want to | 20:49 |
| chem|st | rigo: I though about rebuilding all my networking programs myself and give them all apple IDs... | 20:49 |
| rigo | but I also see that you don't have to. And that's the difference, choice | 20:50 |
| TheParanoid | Just to make my point: i even store contacts in a encrypted excel sheet. Very important persons are only written down in a moleskine. I take privacy pretty serious! | 20:50 |
| rigo | no, you're just paranoid :) | 20:50 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: your name has it... | 20:50 |
| rigo | privacy =/= secrecy | 20:51 |
| chem|st | do you see a doctor? | 20:51 |
| chem|st | why are you considering modern technology? write letters! | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | TheParanoid: and your friends has your number uploaded to whatsapp and others can create whatever you have in your sheet out from there.. | 20:51 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 20:51 |
| rigo | Security in the times of the ligne maginot | 20:52 |
| TheParanoid | I am not using these chats. Anyways: i need a secure platform, can sailfish deliver? | 20:52 |
| chem|st | facebook could make you a full blown account page, right after you signed up... just from knowing your email | 20:52 |
| rigo | TheParanoid: depends on you. after all it's just a linux box | 20:52 |
| rigo | on mobile phone hardware | 20:52 |
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| TheParanoid | You can mock me, but i get by very well. Email, btw is only encrypted and hosted in my own server. | 20:53 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: I consider it more secure than android, in terms of paranoia | 20:53 |
| TheParanoid | What makes sailfish mire secure than Android? | 20:54 |
| chem|st | not being google | 20:54 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: rest assured you will get more than you wished for ;) | 20:54 |
| TheParanoid | ... not being google could mean being Spoke... | 20:54 |
| TheParanoid | Ah Apple | 20:55 |
| chem|st | well my exp is from an samsung tab2, that was calling home, if you consider everythign outside home | 20:55 |
| r0kk3rz | TheParanoid: its creator doesnt have a vested interest in data gathering | 20:56 |
| chem|st | now that firefox starts to frequently multicast to the network, ubuntu has its desktiop search hooked up to amazon... I consider a system where I can choose what to install and what not, secure | 20:56 |
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| TheParanoid | I am pondering: a platform a lot of good people are working on (sailfish) or a maybe 8insecure platform being made secure and assesst by even a lot more (Android)? | 20:57 |
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| rigo | TheParanoid: on having your own email server etc: https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_400w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2013/10/30/Local/Images/GOOGLE-CLOUD-EXPLOITATION1383148810.jpg?uuid=X09V1kF8EeOwKN6SLXo_Rw | 20:58 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: it is a linux system that comes with just that when you unpack... nothing is preinstalled apart of core things, like on the phone there is contacts and the phone and messaging for sms and stuff... everything else is your choice | 20:58 |
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| rigo | chem|st: but I agree with TheParanoid that a real jolla enterprise security package is still missing | 20:59 |
| TheParanoid | chem|st: i do not have enough time to invest in learning from scratch. How easy is Hector port some apps? | 20:59 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: if you can live with having to bypass some stuff, most android apps just work | 20:59 |
| rigo | on the other half, a jolla2 is missing too :) | 20:59 |
| r0kk3rz | the whole partnership with ssh is surely a step in the right direction | 20:59 |
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| chem|st | some quirks about connectivity and other HW and being unable to read from the "real" system but thats about it... | 21:00 |
| TheParanoid | Thanks a lot guys. | 21:00 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: yes, makes hope | 21:00 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: but the browser still can't switch off javascript. | 21:00 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: and there is no Opera yet for sailfishOS | 21:00 |
| TheParanoid | So pavi PGP works on Jolla? Is there an OTR-client? | 21:00 |
| chem|st | rigo: they announced to work on that a week ago... don't think that GOV grade security will come to jolla within the next 12 months | 21:01 |
| TheParanoid | Opera? Stay away from it! | 21:01 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: thats operas job, and its gecko engine so it should be able to switch off js | 21:01 |
| TheParanoid | They operate their own data mining company. They are ain't that good, fly would think | 21:02 |
| chem|st | rigo: opera is even worse, I stopped using opera mobile when you probably not even knew that there are smartphones | 21:02 |
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| chem|st | TheParanoid: +1 | 21:02 |
| chem|st | they are gooperator | 21:02 |
| chem|st | I have to admit, 13 years ago, opera was my primary browser... | 21:03 |
| chem|st | on my phone and on my desktop | 21:03 |
| TheParanoid | Check data traffic from firefox and opera: both phone home. Firefox ALWAYS sends your location. You cant do anything about it!! | 21:04 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: since the last update it is talking to EVERYTHING | 21:04 |
| TheParanoid | chem|st: mine too. Didn't know until three weeks ago. Shocking! | 21:04 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: by the way if you are geeky enough in linux :P you can always run PGP with Mutt mail client on konsole :D | 21:04 |
| TheParanoid | Haha, i considered that, but no! | 21:05 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: Mutt is my primary mailclient... | 21:05 |
| TheParanoid | pavi: on mobile? | 21:05 |
| TheParanoid | On a Smartphone? | 21:05 |
| ortylp | pavi: unfortunately for mutt you need to have stable connection, it is perfect on desktop, miserable on mobile connection | 21:06 |
| chem|st | everywhere, I use the builtin client to email pictures otf but thats about it | 21:06 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: yes on mobile . There is a solution at https://together.jolla.com/question/887/gpg-for-email-and-other-stuff/ | 21:06 |
| TheParanoid | chem|st: Mutt? For desktop maybe but on mobile? | 21:06 |
| pavi | mutt is in the openrepos | 21:06 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: lol, one thing about Sailfish... it comes with fingerterm, I ssh to a remote screen with irssi centerim and mutt... | 21:07 |
| TheParanoid | Talking about geek stuff... | 21:07 |
| pavi | chem|st: yeah thats a good idea. By the way I hate fingerterm :P arent there better console clients for sailfish os ? | 21:08 |
| chem|st | you need to get used to the controls though but with the tablet... I will just have ssh sessions open | 21:08 |
| chem|st | pavi: I don't know a better touch client for any other OS... | 21:08 |
| ortylp | chem|st: with external keyboard I would maybe try it, but wit on screen one... forget it | 21:08 |
| chem|st | at least the 10 clients for android I tried are all BS | 21:08 |
| pavi | ortylp: yeah even me am of same opinion . The other half keyboard is something everyone is waiting for ;) | 21:09 |
| kennae | weechat/irssi + bitlbee takes care of all my chat needs | 21:09 |
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| TheParanoid | I am pondering to use alpine on sailfish =) | 21:09 |
| chem|st | ortylp: you need to get used to it but yes I'd like to ahve a x-folding triple pro! | 21:09 |
| kennae | got my jolla few weeks ago and almost gave up since I coudn't fetch any updates | 21:09 |
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| kennae | now I got it to update and really loving the whole system | 21:09 |
| TheParanoid | chem|st: even k9 mail? | 21:09 |
| Tegu | i kinda like alpine more than mutt | 21:09 |
| TheParanoid | Tegu: Me too | 21:10 |
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| chem|st | TheParanoid: I am no android user... I sell a tab2 if someone wants it... | 21:10 |
| ortylp | at the moment I use K9 on Jolla and GalaxyNote2, and thunderbird/enigmail on Desktop | 21:10 |
| TheParanoid | Can I pair any bt keyboard?according to the webpage it should be a nobrainer. | 21:11 |
| TheParanoid | chem|st: Bah! | 21:11 |
| ortylp | TheParanoid: last time I checked it worked with native apps, did no with Android, but maybe it is already fixed | 21:11 |
| Tegu | nowadays, yeas (at least some keyboards? maybe all bu dunno) | 21:11 |
| chem|st | Tegu: what is the difference? | 21:12 |
| chem|st | Tegu: apart from other shortcuts? | 21:12 |
| kennae | I lost my note 3 and replaced with a friends jolla and woudn't change back now | 21:12 |
| Tegu | but it might be jus because i've got used to it or haven't bothered to config mutt :P | 21:12 |
| kennae | I really wish that back cover keyboard thing would get real | 21:12 |
| kennae | this would last me as long as my n900 | 21:12 |
| chem|st | kennae: that is real! | 21:13 |
| kennae | oh? I just read about it somewhere | 21:13 |
| kennae | how is it in action? | 21:13 |
| ortylp | kennae: I want wacom stylus for Jolla and Jolla Tablet, otherwise I have no chance for selling it to my wife | 21:13 |
| chem|st | kennae: no idea | 21:13 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: how is the keyboard? | 21:13 |
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| pavi | TheParanoid: my simple advice in summary , ditch the android ecosystem and come back to GNU/Linux on phone via sailfish os :) | 21:14 |
| kimmoli | chem|st: ? fine, waiting for the improved keymat | 21:15 |
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| kennae | does it slide out like in n900? I would like to see some images if someone remembers the url | 21:15 |
| kimmoli | too much muscle-memory-effect now | 21:15 |
| TheParanoid | pavi: i am tempted. | 21:15 |
| pavi | kennae: its is hold together by magnets but the reviews are too good | 21:15 |
| kennae | I got nothing against magnets, quite the contrary | 21:16 |
| TheParanoid | A sliding keyboard with sailfish os | 21:16 |
| TheParanoid | ? | 21:16 |
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| chem|st | you can put it in another pocket if not needed... | 21:16 |
| kimmoli | http://www.jollaes.com/2015/03/mwc15-dia-2-other-half/ | 21:16 |
| kennae | TheParanoid: you can get fancy replacements for your jollas back cover | 21:16 |
| kennae | ie. one that has physical keyboard in it | 21:16 |
| kimmoli | some videos, spanish, fresh from MWC | 21:16 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: now we got you, close your mouth please... | 21:17 |
| kennae | damn that looks awesome | 21:17 |
| pavi | kennae: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1aEzY_nvQc | 21:17 |
| ortylp | chem|st: sdcard still not working, /dev/mmcblk1p1 on /media/sdcard/d20a95f0-24f5-4f95-be7e-6d5862b54f0d, I'll get back to it on weekend... | 21:17 |
| toerb | kennae: http://funkyotherhalf.com/tohkbdconfigurator/ | 21:17 |
| chem|st | ortylp: the /opt/alien/media is -rbind too? | 21:18 |
| TheParanoid | Hehe, i have been there, they didn't show me! | 21:18 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: yes the keyboard is extra addon designed by community project called Funky other half check them out at http://funkyotherhalf.com/ | 21:18 |
| TheParanoid | chem|st: well, there is the ububtu phone as well. | 21:18 |
| chem|st | TheParanoid: seen it, puked, thank you | 21:19 |
| TheParanoid | But the deep Facebook and instagram integration scares me. | 21:19 |
| chem|st | ubuntu is off my radar for years for my private use, they do things I would not even do to my enemies | 21:20 |
| kennae | I want void/arch phone ;x | 21:20 |
| TheParanoid | What things? | 21:20 |
| pavi | dash search ? | 21:20 |
| TheParanoid | I am on linux mint, should i switch? | 21:20 |
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| chem|st | install a desktop search engine that is hooked up to amazon.com | 21:20 |
| kennae | ubuntu is cancerous to the whole linux community | 21:20 |
| chem|st | just an example | 21:21 |
| pavi | kennae: +1 ubuntu just lives on debian | 21:21 |
| TheParanoid | They started this crap with the ubuntucloud. | 21:22 |
| ortylp | chem|st: [ubuntu] I just maintain a list of packages that I "apt-get purge" after each fresh install | 21:22 |
| chem|st | not only that it lives off debian, it lives off debian and breaks debian rules to make a "better" system | 21:22 |
| pavi | +1 to chem|st | 21:22 |
| TheParanoid | Well then its off the table. | 21:23 |
| chem|st | ortylp: you see, I do not have to maintain such a list as I dio not use ubuntu | 21:23 |
| TheParanoid | What is the right distro then? | 21:23 |
| pavi | Today I was hearing some argument on how ubuntu server is better than debian because it has all new packages and PPA s | 21:23 |
| kennae | arch | 21:23 |
| chem|st | one of the core distros the others live off | 21:23 |
| pavi | I couldnt stop lauging :D | 21:24 |
| ortylp | chem|st: during last 18 years I went through slakware,redhat,debian,gentoo and ubuntu | 21:24 |
| chem|st | arch, redhat, debian, slack | 21:24 |
| kennae | such a simple and pure distro with every package being the latest | 21:24 |
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| ortylp | chem|st: the "ubuntu" one was the first one, that was "just works" with all my thinkpads | 21:24 |
| pavi | me RH, fedora , ubuntu ( for 3 months) , debian .. flirted with gentoo for a bit . | 21:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | i dont think ubuntu has ever JustWorkedTM | 21:25 |
| chem|st | ortylp: lol, debian devel is all or was all thinkpads, that is the only hardware it runs from right from the beginning^^ | 21:25 |
| TheParanoid | Tried slackware, but well, we couldn't get along | 21:25 |
| * rigo has given up on ubuntu and is back to the most boring 'just works' german distro | 21:25 | |
| kennae | r0kk3rz: for many it has and that was their selling point years back | 21:25 |
| chem|st | slacking is a slack job^^ | 21:25 |
| kennae | now every distro just works if you know what you are doing | 21:25 |
| pavi | rigo: is it kanotix ? or opensuse ? | 21:25 |
| r0kk3rz | i remember having to faff around with wpa supplicants and other such just to get wifi working | 21:26 |
| chem|st | rigo: knoppix? | 21:26 |
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| TheParanoid | r0kk3rz: must be years past. | 21:26 |
| rigo | pavi: I use KDE since version 1.1, so the only distro that really works with KDE is opensuse :) | 21:26 |
| r0kk3rz | its been some time since i used ubuntu to be fair | 21:26 |
| chem|st | well I'd consider debian german too by now | 21:26 |
| r0kk3rz | i had a thought "why dont i just use debian" and never looked back | 21:27 |
| pavi | rigo: I am running debian wheezy with KDE and I was a happy user atleast for past 2 years. I dunno what systemd would do to jessie though | 21:27 |
| TheParanoid | Never been a fan if kde, loved gnome .but that's just taste. | 21:27 |
| chem|st | rigo: and suse will never cross my doorstep ever | 21:27 |
| ortylp | rigo: suse survived on my hdd maybe a few hours, but it was about 2001 then | 21:27 |
| rigo | chem|st: debian is for servers and if you use linux as a basis for emacs | 21:27 |
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| kennae | r0kk3rz: thats how I changed also from the first ubuntu release, then I heard about arch linux and tried it and never looked back | 21:27 |
| rigo | ortylp: yes, it was ugly back then. But now it works, even with systemd. Mine boots in less than 40sec | 21:28 |
| kennae | now im using void and I really like it a lot | 21:28 |
| chem|st | rigo: really? I am using debian-testing/sid for 10 years as desktop and notebook solution | 21:28 |
| ortylp | rigo: "debian unstable" is a very stable desktop distro taken you have hardware supported by open source drivers | 21:28 |
| TheParanoid | So, on sailfish, should i buy it? | 21:28 |
| kennae | I would never use debian on a desktop | 21:28 |
| chem|st | ortylp: nice one :) | 21:28 |
| TheParanoid | =) | 21:28 |
| pavi | ortylp: +1 I had a broadcom chip while running unstable on a netbook , it was an awesome experience :D | 21:28 |
| chem|st | ortylp: most closed drivers are available too | 21:29 |
| kennae | so damn old packages and the system is a mess compared to more bsd-like distros | 21:29 |
| Lieke | i've also been using debian sid on my desktop for years now, works fine | 21:29 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: get lost , we said enough :P | 21:29 |
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| * rigo used debian unstable for years, discovered with ubuntu what "could" work on a laptop and with opensuse that updates don't have to break your system so you have to fix it for 2 days | 21:29 | |
| r0kk3rz | TheParanoid: Yes! No! Maybe! if you want? | 21:29 |
| kennae | TheParanoid: im a newcomer to jolla/sailfish and I could really get behind this | 21:29 |
| chem|st | kennae: damn old packages? currently there is a freeze on testing but usually the packages are not older than a few weeks | 21:29 |
| ortylp | chem|st: I switched to gentoo in around 2006... | 21:29 |
| kennae | if you like a simple system that is very nice to handle and has all linux tools, go for it | 21:29 |
| chem|st | kennae: I am not talking about debian-stable | 21:30 |
| kennae | I know you are not | 21:30 |
| chem|st | I would not use a LTS on non-server systems... | 21:30 |
| kennae | but even unstable has some old packages | 21:30 |
| kennae | atleast used to have | 21:30 |
| chem|st | kennae: so what? | 21:30 |
| kennae | I like my updates | 21:30 |
| TheParanoid | Can someone point me old to the vbox image of sailfish? I search could try it live. If all works i get the combo right away. | 21:30 |
| rigo | windows is better anyway :) | 21:30 |
| * rigo waits for the blow | 21:31 | |
| r0kk3rz | if i need bleeding edge stuff i just compile it myself | 21:31 |
| Tegu | yea, just use windows 10 | 21:31 |
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| chem|st | what do I need everything always bleeding edge? some things come so bleeding that I'd rather have a hotfix yesterday as it made my machine an open cadavre over night | 21:31 |
| kennae | windows is just fine for most of the stuff people use computers for | 21:31 |
| chem|st | r0kk3rz: +1 | 21:31 |
| TheParanoid | r0kk3rz: lol, +1 | 21:31 |
| chem|st | oh now windows too? | 21:31 |
| chem|st | kennae: you are out | 21:31 |
| kennae | chem|st: maybe you don't like bleeding edge but I do, thats why I said _I_ would never use it on a desktop | 21:31 |
| kennae | I can see the appeal for some people | 21:32 |
| chem|st | I value semi stable over being the first one to try a bug | 21:32 |
| rigo | hm, why can't jolla run metro-apps? =:-) | 21:32 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: VM is horrible looking :P you wont get a good experience . but yeah download the SDK it might give some idea . https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/ | 21:32 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: what metro apps? | 21:32 |
| TheParanoid | Someone wanna heart bleed? Bleeding stuff as well | 21:32 |
| Tegu | we nees windows phone wm tobjolla | 21:32 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: windows, you could simulate a lumia | 21:33 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: asyou download the SDK also write a nice app for sailfish os :) | 21:33 |
| chem|st | *bless you* | 21:33 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: yes i know what metro apps are, i was making a joke that there arent any worth running | 21:33 |
| TheParanoid | pavi: lil, don't expect too much, i am a beginner. | 21:34 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: ok, so the other way around. Run sailfishOS on lumia hardware and simulate a N9 | 21:34 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: that would be hard I think | 21:35 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: QML is not so heard if you have some time and creative ideas. | 21:35 |
| r0kk3rz | qml is really easy | 21:36 |
| ortylp | chem|st: [sdcard] I see /dev/mmcblk1p1 mounted under /media/sdcard/UUID and /opt/alien/media/sdcard/UUID, now I need to rename UUID to something shorter and try to see these directories from android... but now I going to sleep | 21:36 |
| pavi | *hard TheParanoid check https://sailfishos.org/develop/sdk-overview/develop-firstapp-article/ | 21:36 |
| rigo | r0kk3rz: btw, not entirely true re metro apps. MS has the best pim software of all vendors, shared calendar, meeting planning etc | 21:36 |
| TheParanoid | One last question: on the tablet was a sails from rightvto left, that brought up a partner app. On mwc it was deezer. What exactly are these partner Apps designed for? | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | rigo: arent they releasing office for android and iphone? | 21:36 |
| r0kk3rz | or was that just iphone | 21:36 |
| rigo | i think just iphone | 21:37 |
| rigo | android is office online (with EU roaming ON :) | 21:37 |
| TheParanoid | pavi: yeah, i like that the ask relies on Qt and qml | 21:37 |
| kennae | is there any estaminate when sailfish 2.0 is coming and what are the big changes that will get me excited? | 21:37 |
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| r0kk3rz | TheParanoid: nobody knows about partner apps and such, they arent on the phone yet | 21:38 |
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| TheParanoid | rigo: best pim office? U r kidding! | 21:38 |
| TheParanoid | kennae: according to the roadmap its may 15 | 21:38 |
| TheParanoid | R0 | 21:39 |
| TheParanoid | r0kk3rz: so they were only showcasing. Understood | 21:39 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: so when are you buying your jolla ? ;) | 21:39 |
| kennae | soon I bet :) | 21:39 |
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| TheParanoid | pavi: stop asking obvious questions. LOL | 21:40 |
| r0kk3rz | obviously that is classified information | 21:40 |
| pavi | TheParanoid: we need guys like you .. more paranoid :P we could help build a secure sailfish os :) | 21:41 |
| r0kk3rz | if we knew the answer we could hack the jolla store and findout who TheParanoid is | 21:41 |
| TheParanoid | r0kk3rz: They showed it at MWC. | 21:41 |
| TheParanoid | Start by looking up my ip stress. | 21:42 |
| TheParanoid | Stress = Adress | 21:42 |
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| TheParanoid2 | You all still there. Its so quiet. | 21:47 |
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| kennae | I wish we could get full disk encryption and still be able to update your phone without a hassle | 21:50 |
| TheParanoid | Is there any encryption at all on sailfish? | 21:51 |
| kennae | not for the OS I imagine but you can work with encrypted containers etc. from the command line | 21:53 |
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| kennae | cool, firefox nightly now uses shumway for flash so there is no need for adobe stuff | 21:56 |
| the_mgt | there is no need for flash at all | 21:56 |
| TheParanoid | There is no needcfir firefox either. | 21:56 |
| the_mgt | ack | 21:57 |
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| kennae | the_mgt: that is not true for the majority of people | 21:57 |
| the_mgt | I deleted flash from the notebook recently, encountered 2 instances of "missing plugin" for irrelevant stuff so far | 21:57 |
| the_mgt | kennae: there is no need for the majority of people | 21:57 |
| kennae | true | 21:57 |
| the_mgt | my mom needs flash | 21:58 |
| the_mgt | for greeting cards | 21:58 |
| TheParanoid | the_mgt: lol, | 21:58 |
| the_mgt | not funny. at all | 21:58 |
| kennae | but there is no denying that shumway is a great feat from FF devs | 21:58 |
| the_mgt | I'd rather have Vivaldi on my jolla | 21:58 |
| TheParanoid | What's with red feed readers for Sailfish? Anything usable? | 21:59 |
| TheParanoid | the_mgt: i think the majority is overrated. Wouldn't laugh about your mum. | 22:00 |
| TheParanoid | Rss feed reader | 22:00 |
| TheParanoid | Damn autocorrection | 22:00 |
| kennae | yeah there is a fine one | 22:00 |
| TheParanoid | Podcasting as well? | 22:01 |
| kennae | and you can always use software from androids ecosystem if there is no good sailfish alternative | 22:01 |
| kro | TheParanoid: tt-rss does the job for me (but I have a self-hosted tt-rss instance, so YMMV) | 22:01 |
| kennae | haven't tried podcasts but I would imagine they are so popular that there has to be a good tool for them | 22:01 |
| kro | TheParanoid: gpodder | 22:02 |
| TheParanoid | kro: gpodder makes me puke, but right, there comes the Android joker. | 22:02 |
| TheParanoid | So i am all set, | 22:03 |
| the_mgt | TheParanoid: no worries. I meant that it is not funny at all that my mom uses that crap | 22:03 |
| the_mgt | but moms tend to do | 22:03 |
| TheParanoid | kro: i want something to check automatically and delete old stuff,like news podcasts, to keep only the latest and such. | 22:04 |
| the_mgt | the only reason she is not running linux is that the day after I installed it, she'd call and need some stupid software to create a photobook at aldi | 22:04 |
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| the_mgt | or anything else that is win only | 22:04 |
| TheParanoid | If you don't tell anybody: i bought my mum an ipad. Saves me time... | 22:04 |
| kro | TheParanoid: I'm not a very professional poscast user... jsut like 2-3 podcasts where I listen for time to time... for that gpodder is ok | 22:05 |
| kennae | my mom loves her ipad | 22:05 |
| TheParanoid | Best investment ever! | 22:05 |
| the_mgt | yeah, mine wants a tablet too, I might give her our "old" ipad4 in order to get a new ipad air | 22:05 |
| kennae | she never used computers before and found a new world from the web | 22:05 |
| kennae | ios is pretty great if you just check the weather and use browser | 22:06 |
| TheParanoid | kro: sure gpodder isn't bad at all, but lacks management functions | 22:06 |
| the_mgt | also. moms and the whole concept of "files" do not go well together | 22:06 |
| ikarus | gpodder's UI needs a lot of work | 22:07 |
| TheParanoid | Apple is astonishingly good with privacy. If fly exclude security agencies | 22:07 |
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| sharpneli | I find that amusing :D | 22:08 |
| TheParanoid | kennae: and no, its also very good with podcasts and movies | 22:08 |
| sharpneli | "They are really good with privacy, if we ignore all their breaches of privacy" | 22:08 |
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| TheParanoid | sharpneli: check this out, explains a https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/03/10/ispy-cia-campaign-steal-apples-secrets/: | 22:09 |
| TheParanoid | They aren't so bad. | 22:10 |
| the_mgt | moms and privacy is yet another thing that does not go well together on the internet | 22:10 |
| the_mgt | posting pics of the kids all over the place, etc | 22:10 |
| TheParanoid | ..ncompared to google or Microsoft | 22:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | TheParanoid: I think there might be some celebrities who might beg to differ, something about nude pictures getting leaked | 22:10 |
| TheParanoid | the_mgt: yep, a biiiiiig problem. They don't understand at alk | 22:11 |
| the_mgt | kennae: still, I do not see why full disk encryption and updates would be a trouble | 22:11 |
| TheParanoid | r0kk3rz: they are celebrities its just a pr stunt, lol | 22:11 |
| the_mgt | in most cases, you'd need an extra partition for such things, but it should work fairly well. my macbook air updated flawless from 10.7 until recent 10.10, using filevault from day one | 22:12 |
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| the_mgt | i use full disk encryption on linux desktops too. of course, the /boot partition is unencrypted and a possible attack vector | 22:12 |
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| the_mgt | but I only want full encryption in order to not worry about my data in case a computer gets stolen/lost. if someone would want to eavesdrop on my and has access to my home/computer, I'd be screwed no matter how good the encryption method | 22:14 |
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| TheParanoid | r0kk3rz: i am only talking about the data traffic coming from a mobile. With how its a lot less. Mainly going to apple. For the masses much better than anythingelsee. But yes, not good either. | 22:14 |
| kennae | the_mgt: I don't know why but on android you had to decrypt your whole partition before upgrade and then re-encrypt it again | 22:15 |
| kennae | that is the problem I was talking about and if jolla people make it work like on linux, it would be great | 22:15 |
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| the_mgt | kennae: that's odd. if you hace a rescue partition which is able to fire up cryptsetup, I can see not hard problem | 22:17 |
| the_mgt | entering a safe passphrase with 20+ letters blindly on a touchscreen is the hardest part, I guess | 22:18 |
| kennae | yeah, no idea why android makes it so hard | 22:18 |
| kennae | why blindly? | 22:19 |
| kennae | and you can always ssh onto your phone since we are the future! | 22:19 |
| kennae | erm, maybe you can't ssh before encrypting and booting up, lol | 22:19 |
| the_mgt | yeah, why blindly, exactly. I wish there was a "show password" button on every field where I input a password | 22:20 |
| the_mgt | I misspell a lot on touchscren. large fingers | 22:20 |
| the_mgt | oh, ssh'ing to the rescue partition should be possible. but inconvenient | 22:20 |
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| the_mgt | could all be done from a ramdisk | 22:21 |
| kennae | I fukken love my ramdisks on desktop linux | 22:21 |
| kennae | I run my browser from a ramdisk that I load on boot and it flys | 22:22 |
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| TheParanoid | Well guys, thanks for having me. I will be around soon, maybe even with a small Linux in my pocket ;-) | 22:23 |
| the_mgt | we hope so | 22:24 |
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| kennae | off to bed also, need some sleep before I start to study the insides of sailfish :) | 22:29 |
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| the_mgt | going to bed too, good night | 22:31 |
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| Sailor6738_ | Hi, #JollaMobile | 23:19 |
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| Sailor6738_ | join | 23:20 |
| Jettis | hi | 23:20 |
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| Sailor6738_ | #join JollaMobile | 23:21 |
| Sailor6738_ | Hi | 23:21 |
| Sailor6738_ | searching how this client eorks on jolla phone... | 23:21 |
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| Sailor11048_ | hi Sailor6738_ you already joined #jollamobile :) | 23:21 |
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| Sailor6738_ | used x-chat some centuries ago... | 23:22 |
| Sailor6738_ | thank you Sailor11048 | 23:23 |
| phlixi | :-) | 23:23 |
| Sailor6738_ | just wondering if i can have it to work | 23:24 |
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| phlixi | as you can see, it already works | 23:24 |
| Sailor6738_ | ;) | 23:25 |
| phlixi | you have to prefix your commands with / | 23:25 |
| Sailor6738_ | ok | 23:25 |
| Sailor6738_ | thanks | 23:25 |
| phlixi | instead of join #jollamobile use /join #jollamobile | 23:25 |
| Sailor6738_ | i seen | 23:25 |
| Sailor6738_ | i see | 23:25 |
| Sailor6738_ | thank you once again | 23:26 |
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| Kabouik | Hey there. I just received an AEE MD10 action camera, which has wifi function that connects to an Android application. Unfortunately that does not work on my Jolla because the wifi connection has problems (the icon has the escamation mark inside) | 23:26 |
| Kabouik | Is there a limitation in Sailfish that prevents such kind of wifi connections? | 23:26 |
| phlixi_mobile | youre welcome :) | 23:26 |
| Sailor6738_ | interesting question | 23:28 |
| Sailor6738_ | cool phlixi | 23:28 |
| Sailor6738_ | :-) | 23:29 |
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| Kabouik | Crap, I guess there is no workaround. I paid 200€ for this little cam and hoped I could control it from the phone. :[ | 23:33 |
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| Sailor6738_ | Kabouik... why don't you try to send a question to trade35@aee.com? | 23:46 |
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| Sailor6738_ | it could be interesting for any jolla user | 23:47 |
| Sailor6738_ | to have some infos related to this sort of product | 23:48 |
| Sailor6738_ | and of ciurse for many developers out there | 23:50 |
| Sailor6738_ | i've to go | 23:51 |
| Sailor6738_ | hi | 23:51 |
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