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| Ponchale | hi | 02:42 |
| HtheB | hi | 02:45 |
| Ponchale | good night or good morning while I contact a user carsten.munk@jolla.com to discuss an alliance with Jolla and as yet have received no answer would know how the topic | 02:50 |
| illusionz | Ponchale, Stskeeps is the man you want | 03:11 |
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| Yaniel | Ponchale: patience, it is just 07:50 in Finland | 05:50 |
| Ezko | Ponchale: finland is gmt+2 and normal office hours are 8-16 | 05:52 |
| Ponchale | ok thanks :) | 05:52 |
| Ponchale | our interest is high so our insistence | 05:52 |
| Yaniel | good :) | 05:54 |
| Unbreakable | Ponchale, what is the name of your company | 05:55 |
| Ponchale | EasyLabs | 05:56 |
| Ponchale | http://easylabs.org | 05:56 |
| Ponchale | https://www.facebook.com/easylabs | 05:56 |
| Stskeeps | Ponchale: you sent an e-mail to carsten.munk@jolla.com ? i haven't received anything? | 05:57 |
| Ponchale | you would send the same day | 05:58 |
| Ponchale | el subject is Alliance From Colombia | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | ah, now i see it, was in spam folder | 05:59 |
| Stskeeps | i'll put it in my e-mail processing of today | 05:59 |
| Ponchale | excellent | 06:00 |
| Ponchale | we are already seeing the documentation to migrate applications we have in Android and IOS for Sailfish | 06:03 |
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| Ponchale | Stskeeps thanks for the info I expect a prompt response | 07:27 |
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| inte` | morning | 07:44 |
| inte` | were there to different "best mobile tablets" awards at MWC? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | sure | 07:45 |
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| Stskeeps | this one was by trustedreviews.com | 07:45 |
| inte` | or how does this: http://www.winbeta.org/news/mwc-2015-microsoft-surface-pro-3-wins-gsma-award-best-mobile-tablet go together with that: http://tablet-news.com/2015/03/05/mwc-2015-jolla-tablet-wins-best-tablet-of-mobile-world-congress-2015-award/ | 07:45 |
| inte` | what is trusted reviews? | 07:45 |
| Stskeeps | some other awards are by GSMA (organisers), where you have to pay to particupate | 07:45 |
| inte` | ah | 07:45 |
| inte` | i see | 07:46 |
| Stskeeps | which is rather ironic :) | 07:46 |
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| inte` | Stskeeps: but if you get awarded by that you get a logo which you can put on you site | 07:46 |
| inte` | :) | 07:46 |
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| Stskeeps | i personally prefer an award by a good site | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 07:47 |
| inte` | so, trusted reviews is a online magazin comparable to e.g. zdnet I guess | 07:47 |
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| inte` | or is there some more "trust" in trusted reviews? | 07:47 |
| Stskeeps | yes | 07:48 |
| inte` | i read on trusted reviews once in a while but i can't say if this site is particularly good | 07:48 |
| Stskeeps | it's a big one from UK supposedly | 07:48 |
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| inte` | and they live from ads | 07:49 |
| Stskeeps | don't we all.. :P | 07:49 |
| inte` | so its rather cool to have jolla winning their award since jolla doesnt spent too much on marketing | 07:49 |
| inte` | :) | 07:49 |
| inte` | damned with my adblock in charge i cant really see who is sponsoring that site :-P | 07:50 |
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| stephg | trustedreviews isn't small no | 08:06 |
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| cityoflights2 | hi, I managed to run the intel project for miracast on a beaglebone | 08:45 |
| cityoflights2 | I now want to run this on my jolla | 08:45 |
| cityoflights2 | first question, does jolla support wifi direct (p2p) ? | 08:45 |
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| cityoflights2 | dis anyone installed wpa_suppliact from source on the phone? | 08:46 |
| cityoflights2 | is there a gcc that runs on the jolla | 08:46 |
| cityoflights2 | ? | 08:46 |
| flux | afaik no support for wifi direct, but maybe it's enough that the other endpoint supports it. maybe. | 08:46 |
| cityoflights2 | https://github.com/01org/wysiwidi | 08:47 |
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| cityoflights2 | it does seem easy: build new connman , new wpa_suppliacat, install gstreamer 1.0 then install wysiwidi | 08:48 |
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| Sail0r | https://together.jolla.com/question/86235/keira-black-update-010/ ! | 08:49 |
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| tadzik | oh look, a free keira background :D | 09:02 |
| Sail0r | use google search ^^ | 09:05 |
| Sail0r | you found it everywhere before :P | 09:05 |
| tadzik | I wasn't looking ;) | 09:05 |
| tadzik | I'm content with the stock grass image | 09:06 |
| Sail0r | well I bought it even when i found it elsewhere to support jolla ^^ | 09:06 |
| Sail0r | but now it looks ugly :x | 09:06 |
| Lieke | i didn't even notice a difference | 09:06 |
| Sail0r | you have to have a good monitor | 09:06 |
| Sail0r | the bottom one is much brighter and more grey | 09:06 |
| Sail0r | and so everything becomes grey on jolla | 09:06 |
| Lieke | yes, on the monitor i can see the diff | 09:06 |
| Lieke | but not so much on my jolla | 09:07 |
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| Sail0r | the appcovers are much brighter now | 09:10 |
| Sail0r | that sucks | 09:10 |
| Lieke | i mean, i've been using lime and just checked keira when the update came to see what changed, so i don't have the old keira fresh in my mind | 09:12 |
| Lieke | but it looks fine to me | 09:12 |
| Sail0r | If you used the old one before as daily one | 09:13 |
| Sail0r | you notice the difference | 09:13 |
| Sail0r | I don't know why they play with the ambiences in that way | 09:13 |
| Sail0r | I think there are more important things and why changing something that people bought "as is" | 09:14 |
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| Sail0r | it's like repainting my car after 3 months because $vendor thinks the blue is not bright enough ^^ | 09:15 |
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| Armadillo | Sail0r haha, great comparison :D | 09:29 |
| coderus | imho they just updated highlight colors of ambiences, no? or backgrounds have been changed also? | 09:32 |
| Armadillo | just compare the two images I posted in the thread | 09:33 |
| Sail0r | the new background image is brighter | 09:34 |
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| flux | isn't there some new general color adjustement feature for ambiences? maybe it's interacting with this. | 09:39 |
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| ggabriel | i wonder if i'll have to get a new jolla soonish... i've got a few more cracks :S | 10:13 |
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| cityoflights2 | can anyone run this on the jolla: | 10:44 |
| cityoflights2 | sudo iw list | 10:44 |
| cityoflights2 | do you see any P2P? | 10:44 |
| cityoflights2 | it does support P2P-GO | 10:45 |
| ninnnu | http://ninnnu.kuism.at/iw-jolla.txt | 10:46 |
| cityoflights2 | ok have wpa_supplicant v2.2, we need 2.3 for miracast | 10:47 |
| cityoflights2 | no connmanctl - odd, but the version is 1.2, we need 1.28 | 10:48 |
| cityoflights2 | any idea which versions are in sailfish 2.0? | 10:49 |
| the_mgt | what's the markete penetration of miracast? | 10:49 |
| the_mgt | on the reception side, I mean | 10:49 |
| cityoflights2 | I use it | 10:49 |
| cityoflights2 | and will soon use it at the office now that I can with my linux laptop | 10:50 |
| cityoflights2 | useful feature | 10:50 |
| cityoflights2 | guess I have to learn how to build a package for the jolla on my laptop now | 10:50 |
| cityoflights2 | does jolla have a gcc package? | 10:50 |
| the_mgt | I only read about chromecast sticks and airplay features, I have yet to find a device in a store that festures miracast | 10:50 |
| cityoflights2 | easier to build on the jolla - no? | 10:51 |
| the_mgt | cityoflights2: use the SDK? | 10:51 |
| cityoflights2 | the_mgt: lots of them on amazon | 10:51 |
| cityoflights2 | yep - the SDK | 10:51 |
| the_mgt | yeah, there are dongles, but I meant TV sets, beamers or av receivers | 10:53 |
| Nicd- | afaik you can run gcc on the phone itself but it's extremely slow | 10:53 |
| cityoflights2 | assume sailfish upgrade gstreamer ->1.0 and connman and wpa_sup, it would be easy to run miracast | 10:55 |
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| pancake | hey | 10:58 |
| henk | Anyone here who knows or can do something about »H=mailer.jolla.com [54.229.79.85] F=<no-reply@jolla.com> rejected after DATA: syntax error in 'Reply-To:' header when scanning for sender: domain missing or malformed in "welcome-tveyd8aw4wl7u@"«? | 10:58 |
| Stskeeps | tigeli: ^ | 10:58 |
| pancake | is there any sf2 img for n950? | 10:58 |
| coderus | pancake: sure, but you need time machine to get it | 10:59 |
| henk | Stskeeps: thanks, and hi (I think I "know" you from somewhere) | 10:59 |
| Stskeeps | henk: of course you do | 11:00 |
| henk | Stskeeps: ah, yes, unrealircd (: | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | hehe | 11:01 |
| Stskeeps | so long ago :P | 11:01 |
| pancake | coderus: this means no :P | 11:02 |
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| cityoflights2 | ninnnu: thanks | 11:10 |
| pancake | http://images.formeego.org/n950/sailfish/ | 11:10 |
| pancake | so this is the latest thing i can use in n950? | 11:10 |
| pancake | or do i have to throw it to the trash? | 11:10 |
| cityoflights2 | sell me your n950 | 11:12 |
| pancake | the sim slot is broken | 11:13 |
| pancake | and i was willing to use it for something, thats why im asking for an updated OS | 11:13 |
| cityoflights2 | ok, I will discount the price | 11:13 |
| ln- | yeah, the value of a working n950 is about 1000€, surely a broken sim slot makes it worth nothing. | 11:14 |
| henk | Stskeeps: Yep, it’s been a while. I’m surprised that you do seem to remember me, though. | 11:14 |
| pancake | 1000e? lol | 11:14 |
| Stskeeps | henk: rings a bell | 11:16 |
| henk | (: | 11:17 |
| leinir | Oh, if someone wants to pay me a thousand euromonies for it, i've got a fully functioning n950 sat here in a box | 11:18 |
| fennekki | neat | 11:19 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | Stskeeps, but multiview support any time soon ? | 11:31 |
| Stskeeps | what? | 11:31 |
| dr_gogeta86 | split screen | 11:31 |
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| coderus | leinir: nice to see somebody have fully functioning n950 in a box while many developers havent got developer devices when harmattan started ;) | 11:38 |
| leinir | Well, it was my phone for some time, and i helped in distributing a fair amount of N9s around to people inside KDE :) | 11:40 |
| pp | hopefully tohkbd will make it completely obsolete and we can just move on | 11:41 |
| pp | I saw one once, and loved it, mind you :-) | 11:42 |
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| leinir | They are astonishingly pretty devices :) | 11:46 |
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| kennae | heya | 11:55 |
| kennae | I got a jolla phone some time ago from a friend but I can't get it to update past 1.0.2.5 | 11:55 |
| kennae | tried to reset the phone few times and I get the 1.0.2.5 update and it updates fine | 11:56 |
| kennae | after that I just get "up to date" after checking updates | 11:56 |
| kennae | I can install stuff from the shop but updates for some apps are stalling | 11:56 |
| kennae | my jolla account works fine and I have tried to reset it, no change | 11:57 |
| kennae | using a stable connection etc. | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | kennae: factory reset, add jolla account, then upgrade upgrade upgrade | 11:57 |
| Nicd- | don't touch dev mode, don't install apps, don't do anything else | 11:57 |
| kennae | I just did that a moment ago | 11:57 |
| kennae | didn't even put in my sim card | 11:57 |
| kennae | tried all the how-tos I could find | 11:58 |
| Nicd- | and you're sure you did nothing else but add your jolla account and then try upgrading? | 11:59 |
| Nicd- | after resetting the phone | 12:00 |
| kennae | yes, very sure | 12:00 |
| kennae | since I just did it for the second time a few hours ago | 12:00 |
| kennae | I can try again if there is nothing else to try | 12:00 |
| coderus | kennae: you on 1.0.2.5 now? | 12:00 |
| kennae | yes coderus | 12:00 |
| coderus | show output of ssu re, ssu fl, ssu domain | 12:01 |
| kennae | from? | 12:01 |
| coderus | terminal | 12:01 |
| kennae | sec | 12:01 |
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| kennae | ssu re: device release is currently: 1.0.2.5, fl: dev flavour: release, domain: dev domain is: sales | 12:03 |
| coderus | seems good, well, you can try to upgrade manually to 1.0.3.8, hope you will get automatic update after that version | 12:03 |
| kennae | that is what I wanted to know | 12:04 |
| coderus | do: ssu re 1.0.3.8; version --dup | 12:04 |
| kennae | how can I do manual update | 12:04 |
| kennae | thanks! | 12:04 |
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| cityoflights2 | pancake: well, just remember my offer | 12:35 |
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| cityoflights2 | I just installed the SDK for the first time I see the QT creater | 12:42 |
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| cityoflights2 | how to compile wpa_supplicant 2.3 in the SDK? | 12:42 |
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| Armadillo | chem|st thanks ;) | 12:50 |
| chem|st | Armadillo: you are welcome | 12:50 |
| chem|st | need any help? | 12:50 |
| chem|st | or is that what you were looking for? | 12:50 |
| Armadillo | yes and no | 12:50 |
| chem|st | just ask! | 12:51 |
| Armadillo | it brings back the old version of keira black, but it will remain as old package in the store | 12:51 |
| Armadillo | so no "update all" is possible | 12:51 |
| Armadillo | well it's ossible, but you know what I mean ;) | 12:51 |
| chem|st | ah, you are doing it wrong ;) | 12:51 |
| Armadillo | possible | 12:51 |
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| Armadillo | oh | 12:51 |
| chem|st | download the package | 12:51 |
| Armadillo | done | 12:51 |
| Armadillo | instaled it via pkcon install-local | 12:51 |
| chem|st | extract the picture, overwrite the one in /usr/share/ambience/ambience-black/ | 12:52 |
| chem|st | don't install the old package^^ | 12:52 |
| Armadillo | hm | 12:52 |
| Armadillo | not a bad idea indeed | 12:52 |
| Armadillo | :) | 12:52 |
| chem|st | hehe | 12:53 |
| chem|st | that is what I did with all the other updated pictures so far | 12:54 |
| Armadillo | hehe | 12:54 |
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| Armadillo | thanks again :) | 12:55 |
| chem|st | I have a folder in $HOME, ambiences with a .nomedia file in it so it does not get into trackerDB, there I store all iterations, so I can roll back to any previous setup | 12:55 |
| pancake | cityoflights2: there's a sticker that sales NOT FOR SALE | 12:57 |
| chem|st | pancake: but get the simslot repaired! | 12:59 |
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| pancake | why | 13:01 |
| pancake | if i cant do anything with it | 13:02 |
| pancake | nokia will not fix it, and this will require soldering and delicate unmounting and such, i have 20 other phones i would use before this one as a <phone> | 13:03 |
| chem|st | no sailfish? | 13:03 |
| pancake | i have meego in here | 13:03 |
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| pancake | i would be happy to use it to test/develop for sailfish2 | 13:03 |
| pancake | but there's no such thing | 13:03 |
| chem|st | you wont get a baked sfos2 on there (ever) | 13:04 |
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| tigeli | henk: your mailservers rejects mails from mailer.jolla.com? | 13:14 |
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| henk | tigeli: My mailserver rejects broken mail. | 13:16 |
| henk | tigeli: If mailer.jolla.com only sends broken mail, then your statement is correct as well (; | 13:17 |
| henk | err, then the answer to your question is "yes", I mean. Sorry. | 13:18 |
| tigeli | henk: well the mailer.jolla.com is just smtp-server delivering mail from clients ;) | 13:19 |
| tigeli | now I would have to find what sends those broken emails :D | 13:20 |
| tigeli | henk: can I get the email-address in which that mail was sent to? | 13:21 |
| henk | tigeli: Can I /query you the full logs (3 lines)? | 13:21 |
| tigeli | henk: sure | 13:22 |
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| mariod | Hello everyone :) | 16:21 |
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| mariod | hmmm ... trying for a reboot | 16:22 |
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| flux | hmm, I noticed that after the latest upgrade call recorder doesn't anymore get the phone number to the file name | 17:01 |
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| stephg | hey what do all the updated ambience package changes er change? | 17:45 |
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| ShadowJK | I wish jolla would do changelogs :) | 18:03 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | for it's apps? | 18:03 |
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| messerting | Hi, anyone knows where the Jolla Store caches its .apk files? I'd like to backup an Android app. | 18:14 |
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| junnuvi | installed apps are in /opt/alien/data/app | 18:16 |
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| Stskeeps | Enlightened: http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/enlightened/8795/79 | 18:19 |
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| Ponchale | Stskeeps Hi | 18:20 |
| Stskeeps | hi | 18:21 |
| Ponchale | how are you | 18:21 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm good, happy after a long work day | 18:21 |
| Ponchale | that such a day? | 18:22 |
| Stskeeps | hehe, at jolla even long days are good days :) | 18:22 |
| Ponchale | than answers gave you my email? | 18:22 |
| Ponchale | if we want to be part also | 18:23 |
| Stskeeps | Ponchale: yeah, i've forwarded it to the right person, he'll take hand around it | 18:23 |
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| Ponchale | did not understand that last | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | Ponchale: as in, i forwarded the mail to another person in jolla who'll handle it | 18:26 |
| Ponchale | aaa OK | 18:29 |
| Ponchale | excellent Stskeeps | 18:29 |
| Ponchale | thanks | 18:29 |
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| messerting | junnuvi: Thanks! Found my app there :) | 19:12 |
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| Stskeeps | i think my evening is going to be spent reading all the comments on http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/enlightened/8795/1 - about EFL | 20:38 |
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| scottc | this is amazing | 20:43 |
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| Stskeeps | .. still reading. so amazing. | 20:57 |
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| r0kk3rz | to think tizen is geared towards EFL | 21:00 |
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| svuorela | r0kk3rz: they have hired both people able to hack on EFL to work on tizen. | 21:17 |
| r0kk3rz | by the sounds of it, EFL isnt worth saving | 21:18 |
| r0kk3rz | broken by design comes to mind | 21:18 |
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| the_mgt | I used enlightenment17 (using efl) since it was in it's earliest stages. only stopped using it because I bought a mac. still, I find that enlightenment is the only low footprint desktop I can use without my eyes bleeding from all the nerd porn present in linux window managers | 21:37 |
| the_mgt | qt might be easier to program, but if you used it without the full kde environment, applications using it were buttugly and getting a nice theme to work was hell of a job. | 21:40 |
| phlixi | i can not read the comments on the posting, wow, what a f*cked up system | 21:42 |
| phlixi | seems to repeat everything arbitrary once you unfold answers to one posting | 21:42 |
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| the_mgt | I stopped reading the posting | 21:46 |
| the_mgt | On the Cebit 2011, when the enlightenment guys were there, I saw rasterman showing of a phone using efl. it was f**king fast and performant, even in software rendering mode | 21:48 |
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| the_mgt | I'd still like to get my hands on a tizen phone, just to see how much the marketing deparment buttraped it | 21:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | it'll be interesting to see | 21:54 |
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| Elleo | I did a bit of dev with EFL back when OpenMoko was using it; didn't find it too bad, kind of verbose and a bit tricky to get started with at first, but not unbearable | 22:46 |
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| Elleo | Qt and QML are much nicer though | 22:47 |
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| HtheB | are there any people here from china? | 22:50 |
| HtheB | or hongkong | 22:50 |
| falfa | no | 22:54 |
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| lazy_bum | Hi. | 22:56 |
| lazy_bum | Is there some easy way to delete emails? | 22:56 |
| fennekki | ? | 22:57 |
| fennekki | like | 22:57 |
| fennekki | more than one at a time? | 22:57 |
| lazy_bum | Yes, like 500 at a time. | 22:57 |
| lazy_bum | Without the tap tap tap tap tap... | 22:57 |
| fennekki | probably not | 22:57 |
| fennekki | but idk | 22:57 |
| fennekki | I haven't found a way, anyway | 22:57 |
| lazy_bum | An automagic BCC and mass delete would be awesome. | 22:58 |
| lazy_bum | I wonder if "rm (a lot of files)" in mail dir would be bad idea or very bad idea. ;) | 22:59 |
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| phlixi | lazy_bum: I assume your mailbox is not accessable via IMAP and you do not have a full pc, because the obious way then would be to not do it on the phone... | 23:33 |
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