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| coderus | Aliendalvik control plugin for Jolla Settings. Allow to start/stop aliendalvik by clicking toggle. https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/aliendalvik-toggle-jolla-settings | 08:43 |
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| cityoflights2 | I want a second battry | 08:53 |
| Stskeeps | i want a pony | 08:53 |
| Joonaa | i want a job | 08:54 |
| lainwir3d_ | I want to go to space | 08:54 |
| coderus | i want a summer | 08:54 |
| Yaniel | just a sun would be fine | 08:55 |
| Mikaela | +1 to summer | 08:55 |
| coderus | we have huge snowfall today, 10 March :D | 08:55 |
| jaacoppi | from those 5 things I'd choose going to space | 08:55 |
| Scelt | I want to be free | 08:55 |
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| TemeV | Yeah, sun would be nice for a change. Yesterday was nice and sunny day in Vaasa... and I spent it in a windowless lab... | 08:59 |
| kimmoli | Stskeeps: Joonaa: coderus: Combination of your needs; http://www.workaway.info/18279957924e-en.html | 09:03 |
| kimmoli | unfortunately nothing such in space :( | 09:03 |
| Joonaa | lol | 09:04 |
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| SfietKontantinW | poney in space \o/ | 09:09 |
| SfietKontantinW | that's a business to be considered | 09:09 |
| jaacoppi | that's animal cruelty | 09:09 |
| Joonaa | no, that's science | 09:11 |
| anYc | spring arrived in germany, I was outside with just a shirt yesterday \o/ | 09:13 |
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| Teemu | indeed | 09:19 |
| Teemu | i'm in fu-berlin at the moment | 09:19 |
| SfietKontantinW | we got summer in fr during the WE | 09:20 |
| SfietKontantinW | but now, winter is back | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | barcelona had 20 degrees. was awesome. | 09:20 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 09:20 |
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| Teemu | last evening walk from restaurant to hotel in just a shirt <3 | 09:31 |
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| Hannabash | Finland +3 | 09:51 |
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| uuhimhere | Mars +100 | 09:54 |
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| Hannabash | :) | 09:56 |
| MrSparrowFart | what is sparrow in finn? | 09:56 |
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| Scelt | varpunen | 09:58 |
| Scelt | "MrSparrowFart" would most naturally be "Herra Varpuspaska" | 09:59 |
| MrSparrowFart | interesting | 09:59 |
| Teme | varpuspieru to be precise | 09:59 |
| Scelt | which actually is "SparrowShit" | 09:59 |
| MrSparrowFart | Varpus thats a nice name for a phone | 10:01 |
| MrSparrowFart | is Herra bird? | 10:01 |
| Teme | Herra = Sir | 10:01 |
| Scelt | or mister aka mr | 10:02 |
| Hannabash | herra birra | 10:02 |
| Scelt | MrSparrowFart: varpunen is the basic from of the noun | 10:02 |
| Scelt | varpus is a twisted form :D | 10:02 |
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| juhaj | Jiihaa! Jolla finally sent me my voucher code – just 20 days after payment | 10:09 |
| politie | 😂 | 10:10 |
| MrSparrowFart | is j in finn the same as spanish? | 10:11 |
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| Jope | MrSparrowFart, no | 10:14 |
| Jope | but it's nearly the same j as in Swedish. :-) | 10:15 |
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| sakustar | Hannabash: +3 ?! time to get the shorts out | 10:24 |
| Nicd- | 6°C here, it's like summer already | 10:25 |
| Joonaa | raining here <* | 10:26 |
| Joonaa | ;(* | 10:26 |
| sakustar | 5.3 says mine :0 | 10:30 |
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| Joonaa | Can I change the (un)lock button functionality so it skips song instead of unlocking the screen if media player is playing music? | 10:55 |
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| tadzik | you can put musicplayer controls on lockscreen :) | 10:56 |
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| Joonaa | well, i cant really use the screen while its in my pocket, but i can hit the buttons :) | 10:57 |
| henk | How "stable" are patches? Is it risky using them, e.g. in the event of system upgrades, if one isn’t careful or do they Just Work™? | 10:58 |
| tadzik | oh, you mean the physical button | 10:58 |
| Joonaa | yeah | 10:58 |
| tadzik | henk: they disappear on system upgrades | 10:58 |
| tadzik | henk: in my experience they're less buggy than sailfish itself, quite often :P | 10:58 |
| Yaniel | if you are not careful you may end up bricking your phone though | 10:59 |
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| Joonaa | tadzik: any ideas? :) | 11:01 |
| tadzik | Joonaa: no, not really | 11:01 |
| Joonaa | darn | 11:01 |
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| Tuju | i missed a call again. answering with jolla is difficult. | 11:11 |
| Tuju | that wipe shit with incoming call is just stupid. | 11:12 |
| Tuju | never had the same problem with n950 nor n9. | 11:12 |
| SfietKontantinW | Tuju: you have two gestures on the N9 | 11:13 |
| SfietKontantinW | not really more practical | 11:13 |
| Tuju | i have a button on screen with n9. | 11:13 |
| tadzik | I don't see how doing a swipe is harder than a press | 11:14 |
| tadzik | I find it easier, you don't have to aim that well | 11:14 |
| Tuju | tadzik: i see, i miss calles. constantly. | 11:14 |
| tadzik | you can practice with alarms | 11:14 |
| Joonaa | To be fair, the delay on the screen is very annoying | 11:15 |
| Joonaa | i swipe before it can register it | 11:15 |
| Tuju | i can also imagine that other users would do. | 11:15 |
| Joonaa | and then my finger is already at the bottom of the screen | 11:15 |
| Tuju | tadzik: maybe end user device manufactured at 2014 has an issue if you need to "practice" a basic feature. | 11:15 |
| Tuju | maybe a seminar and user traning course about answering a call with jolla? | 11:16 |
| Tuju | i'd love to hear the seminar key note. | 11:16 |
| Tegu | in case you didn't know, you don't have to exactly hit the "answer call" in the pulley menu (unlike in other pulleys) | 11:17 |
| Tegu | iirc | 11:17 |
| Acce | I didn't need practise, nor I find it hard. It's as simple as buttons to me. But that probably doesn't comfort you at this point | 11:17 |
| Tuju | or maybe just admitting that sailfish is not a phone software, but a hex-calculator launching platform that tries to conquer smartphone market. | 11:17 |
| Joonaa | haha what? | 11:20 |
| Yaniel | Tuju: oh you didn't know? | 11:20 |
| Yaniel | it is in fact an elaborate plan to bring back punch cards | 11:20 |
| Joonaa | sailfish is by far the best phone os ive used so far | 11:20 |
| Nicd- | I haven't really had any problems with the answering except for the lag sometimes | 11:20 |
| Nicd- | I had a lot more problems answering calls with my N900 | 11:20 |
| Tuju | now i got the guy at the end of the line and had to stop the call and agree that i call him back with desktop phone because i could not understand what he's talking. | 11:20 |
| Tuju | and we don't have that issue with face-to-face. | 11:20 |
| Tuju | but hey, it's a great phone. | 11:21 |
| Joonaa | thats weird | 11:21 |
| Joonaa | i havent had any issues with calls like that | 11:21 |
| Joonaa | though, i do prefer using earbuds if i have them on me | 11:21 |
| Tuju | Joonaa: i use device's own speaker. | 11:21 |
| Joonaa | yeah ive used it too | 11:21 |
| henk | Yaniel: hm, that doesn’t sound good. How can that happen? Anything to watch out for? | 11:21 |
| Joonaa | you can adjust volume mid-call btw | 11:21 |
| Tuju | Joonaa: does it help to distrosion? | 11:22 |
| Tuju | maybe it breaks the sound if i have it too loud. | 11:22 |
| Yaniel | henk: just be careful to choose the right punch | 11:22 |
| Acce | henk: are you that famous cowboy? | 11:22 |
| Tegu | punched tape is so cute | 11:22 |
| Joonaa | Tuju yeah it might be too loud for you atm | 11:22 |
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| henk | Yaniel: punch? | 11:23 |
| Tuju | now i tried it again: The fact is that there is nothing on screen that you could tap when call comes in. | 11:24 |
| Tuju | everyone else got it right, at the time of call, you - surprise surprise, need to put a button on screen where to tap. | 11:24 |
| Tuju | guys, make a guess when jolla goes bankcrupt? | 11:25 |
| Yaniel | why do you feel a need to tap anything in the first place | 11:25 |
| Joonaa | i dont think that is a problem at all | 11:25 |
| Yaniel | except ass | 11:25 |
| Tegu | I haven't have problems with the swipe-to-answer | 11:25 |
| Tuju | Yaniel: indeed. you think about it. | 11:25 |
| Joonaa | my problem is that the phone starts ringing, then a second later the screen powers on, and then a bit later the touchscreen activates | 11:25 |
| xfade_ | Tuju: You know that you just need to put a finger on the screen an pull down. You can do that without looking | 11:25 |
| Joonaa | so you have to wait while the phone is ringing | 11:25 |
| Tuju | xfade_: yes, i know that. | 11:25 |
| henk | Acce: No, I don’t even know him, so he seems not to be that famous. | 11:26 |
| xfade_ | That is a lot easier than actually finding the button on the screen and tapping on it? | 11:26 |
| Tuju | xfade_: and that's a stupid UI-decision. | 11:26 |
| * _inte_ never had any problems answering a call with my Jolla as well | 11:26 | |
| xfade_ | I can even mute my alarm clock in my sleep ;) | 11:26 |
| Joonaa | i dont get it, how is that stupid? | 11:26 |
| Joonaa | is it stupid because its different than android? | 11:26 |
| Tegu | then again, I don't use the phone features much so maybe I haven't had enough repetition to make it annoying (like even small things get annoying if they happen frequently) | 11:26 |
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| Yaniel | if you want the easiest possible interaction, make the phone detect it is raised from the table or whatever and answer automatically | 11:27 |
| Tuju | Joonaa: the probability that everyone else does it so, because it's the most intutive way to do it, is high. | 11:27 |
| Joonaa | imo android feels more like its designed for phones with buttons and no touch screen | 11:27 |
| kjetilho | well, I have declined calls many times due to accidental key presses since I was using the phone just as the call came in | 11:27 |
| _inte_ | xfade_: there is math-in-alarms-patch against this habbit :-) | 11:27 |
| kjetilho | the accept call gesture is rare enough it's not done by accident | 11:27 |
| xfade_ | _inte_: hehe, yeah sometimes I need that ;) | 11:27 |
| _inte_ | :) | 11:27 |
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| Joonaa | xfade_: oh yeah, unlocking the screen when alarm starts doesnt actually unlock the screen, but snoozes instead | 11:28 |
| kjetilho | Yaniel: I don't want that, I want to see who is calling before I answer :) | 11:28 |
| Joonaa | worst behaviour EVER | 11:28 |
| Nicd- | Tuju: there's no button to press on iOS or my wife's old android phone | 11:28 |
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| _inte_ | I find that patch the probably most useful one in patchmanager :-) | 11:28 |
| Nicd- | it's similar sliding of the finger, just sideways | 11:28 |
| xfade_ | Joonaa: You can snooze and dismiss without unlocking | 11:28 |
| Nicd- | Tuju: have you thought maybe it's just you? :P | 11:28 |
| Tuju | when i bought this device, my local var said that it's the last shipment of those phones, there will be no more. | 11:28 |
| Joonaa | xfade_ i know, but my reaction is always to unlock the phone | 11:28 |
| Joonaa | so every morning i end up snoozing for 15mins at least | 11:29 |
| xfade_ | Joonaa: then you are already awake enough to enter the code? :) | 11:29 |
| Joonaa | i just use the default app | 11:29 |
| Tuju | and that shop was the only place to buy it in this country. so there will not be any other reseller anymore. | 11:29 |
| Joonaa | but maybe i do need to change my habits.. | 11:29 |
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| xfade_ | Joonaa: once you realize that you can also flip the phone over, then the real snoozing habbit starts ;) | 11:30 |
| Joonaa | oh no... | 11:30 |
| Joonaa | i think ive actually managed to mute the alarm a few times in my sleep :) | 11:31 |
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| tadzik | Tuju: I mentioned that (practicing), because you are the first person I've seen who has a problem with it :) | 11:34 |
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| Tuju | tadzik: that doesn't mean that others wouldn't. I'm just those rare ones who bring it up. | 11:55 |
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| tadzik | Tuju: yeah, perhaps | 11:58 |
| tadzik | Tuju: so the problem is that you're used to the button, so you "tap" and it accidentally swipes? | 11:58 |
| tadzik | or is swiping itself actually tricky | 11:58 |
| Tuju | incoming call is a short event, if you don't answer it, it goes away. | 11:59 |
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| Joonaa | ... short? | 11:59 |
| tadzik | sure it is, but what's your problem with not answering it? | 11:59 |
| tadzik | short as in less than 30 seconds, I imagine | 11:59 |
| Tuju | if there is nothing on display - i don't see the befenit of hiding the answer behind a pullable menu. | 11:59 |
| tadzik | but it's not like the gesture takes longer than... half? | 11:59 |
| Tuju | a) pull selection visible and aim to it, answer b) tap your finger to green button on screen | 12:00 |
| xfade_ | Tuju: you don't need to aim | 12:01 |
| tadzik | yeah, I guess there's no reason to not make the green image tappable | 12:01 |
| xfade_ | Just flick and release | 12:01 |
| Tuju | it's like a room's lightswitch would be behind a box cover you need to open. | 12:01 |
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| Nicd- | tadzik: accidental taps | 12:02 |
| tadzik | hm, maybe | 12:02 |
| Joonaa | Tuju: but you dont use the light switch as a keyboard :) | 12:02 |
| Tuju | Joonaa: it ends to be funny when sailfish dies like meego did. | 12:03 |
| Nicd- | maybe you should go troll somewhere else | 12:03 |
| Joonaa | i think we are doing quite well right now | 12:04 |
| Joonaa | and im super happy using this phone, even if it wasnt updated anymore | 12:04 |
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| tadzik | anyway, you still didn't say what's your problem with answering | 12:04 |
| tadzik | just expressed your dissatisfaction that it's "hidden" in a pulley | 12:05 |
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| Tuju | Joonaa: my local dealer is phasing out jolla from this country, it doesn't really sound "quite well" :) | 12:08 |
| Joonaa | well, check out the table kickstarter | 12:09 |
| Joonaa | im not sure how many times over they got the money they asked... but they got a lot | 12:09 |
| Tuju | Joonaa: is that R&D money or long term production money? | 12:10 |
| Joonaa | well, they are going to be shipping tablets with that money | 12:10 |
| ggabriel | it's to power the fusion reactor | 12:11 |
| Joonaa | haha | 12:11 |
| Nicd- | actually it's to build more pulleys so Tuju can be more annoyed | 12:11 |
| uuhimhere | so theyre pulling out of the phone ma4ket? | 12:11 |
| Tuju | sorry about my feedback, keep doing the all good work. | 12:12 |
| Tuju | wont happen again. | 12:12 |
| ggabriel | i don't think feedback is bad, it's just that there's been discussions over and over about the pulley menu | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | and there are topics in tjc | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | it can be better, sure | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | it's got disadvantages | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | but it's got huge advantages too | 12:13 |
| Nicd- | and you could be less aggressive | 12:13 |
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| uuhimhere | so is therr going to be a jolla watch? | 12:13 |
| ggabriel | one slightly good idea was to activate it with 2 fingers from whenever | 12:14 |
| ggabriel | but i'm not sure, there may be better ways | 12:14 |
| ggabriel | i personally found it annoying for the first time yesterday after scrolling a long list | 12:14 |
| Joonaa | uuhimhere i sure hope not | 12:14 |
| ggabriel | and i've had the phone since dec '13 | 12:14 |
| Joonaa | i dont see smart watches working out.. | 12:14 |
| uuhimhere | Joonaa: why? diversification = bad? | 12:14 |
| Tuju | Nicd-: i would have not guessed that you're so sensitive. | 12:14 |
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| ggabriel | uuhimhere: i'd be concerned about the limited resources they have | 12:15 |
| Joonaa | uuhimhere no, i just dont see smart watches working out | 12:15 |
| Joonaa | tldr waste of money | 12:15 |
| tadzik | in the age of big and clumsy phones, a phone remote is an interesting idea | 12:16 |
| uuhimhere | Joonaa: yeah i do think smartwatches are lame... | 12:16 |
| Joonaa | big and clumsy phones... | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | tadzik: like the htc? | 12:17 |
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| ggabriel | uhm... | 12:17 |
| uuhimhere | Joonaa: but they could still make watches... ala swatch | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | i'd fix the size of the phone :D | 12:17 |
| Joonaa | do you mean like back in 90s? | 12:17 |
| tadzik | I mean like back in the 2014 | 12:17 |
| tadzik | personally I find Jolla too big too, I'd rather have it smaller | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | +1 | 12:17 |
| ggabriel | n9 was the perfect size for me | 12:17 |
| Joonaa | really? | 12:18 |
| Joonaa | well, maybe it is a bit big... | 12:18 |
| Tuju | tadzik: agree, n9 is good size. | 12:18 |
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| ggabriel | and no clutter on the screen, it was as good as any sgs | 12:18 |
| tadzik | but it's still nothing compared to faplets, or how do they call this bullshit | 12:18 |
| uuhimhere | Joonaa: yes the 90s was awesome for watches GSHOCK! | 12:18 |
| Joonaa | i think the screen is fine, but overall the bezels are a bit too big | 12:18 |
| tadzik | Joonaa: I'd rather have it usable with just 1 hand | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | tadzik: phablets, you probably meant something else lol | 12:18 |
| tadzik | in the current size I can't comfortably reach all 4 corners of the screen with my thumk | 12:18 |
| tadzik | thumb* | 12:18 |
| Joonaa | tadzik yeah thats how it would be usable :) | 12:18 |
| uuhimhere | maybe make a tamagotchi toh XD | 12:18 |
| ggabriel | otoh, sailfish is a lot better at one handed operations than meego | 12:19 |
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| ggabriel | well, except for the lack of swype | 12:19 |
| ggabriel | that's a shame | 12:19 |
| kjetilho | why make a watch? make Pebble integration better first, IMHO | 12:20 |
| uuhimhere | tamagotchi... now theres an app for a smartwatch | 12:20 |
| uuhimhere | the hells a pebble? | 12:21 |
| kjetilho | are you serious? | 12:21 |
| uuhimhere | y | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | a smartwatch | 12:21 |
| urs | the best selling smartwatch of the last 3 years or so, too. | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | people keep asking for integration, i'm not sure what integration is | 12:21 |
| tadzik | is it 3 years old? Wow, time flies :) | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | time sync maybe | 12:21 |
| tadzik | kjetilho: what's it missing? | 12:21 |
| ggabriel | that should be easy | 12:21 |
| uuhimhere | smartwatvhes sell? i thiught it was just a thing of curiosity... like the segway | 12:22 |
| ggabriel | uuhimhere: lol | 12:22 |
| kjetilho | tadzik: actually I don't know :) I just got the Jolla, and my charger cable for my Pebble has gone missing... waiting for replacement | 12:22 |
| tadzik | uuhimhere: segway sells too :P | 12:22 |
| tadzik | kjetilho: oh, you fud-spreader, you :P | 12:22 |
| kjetilho | sorry! | 12:23 |
| tadzik | kjetilho: I ordered mine a few weeks ago after I heard that the intergration is pretty much perfect | 12:23 |
| uuhimhere | uhh last i heard it was flop... | 12:23 |
| kjetilho | woop woop, glad to hear | 12:23 |
| tadzik | so at least I'll report bugs :) | 12:23 |
| ggabriel | the email application has a bug | 12:24 |
| ggabriel | if you scroll down a long list of emails and start deleting copiously | 12:24 |
| ggabriel | it crashes | 12:24 |
| ggabriel | hard to reproduce | 12:24 |
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| uuhimhere | so tgese smary watches, are they arm baased? | 12:25 |
| mjr | wrist, rather | 12:25 |
| mjr | eh eh | 12:25 |
| uuhimhere | ha | 12:25 |
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| uuhimhere | funny | 12:25 |
| mjr | but iirc yes at least most of them | 12:26 |
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| uuhimhere | so u could run pcsxrearmed on them? xd\ | 12:27 |
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| tadzik | kekek | 12:27 |
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| cityoflights2 | is the wifi chip in my jolla allows wifi-direct ? | 12:32 |
| cityoflights2 | wireless p2p | 12:32 |
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| toerb | does somebody know how long its takes till one gets the coupon for the jolla smartphone when perking for a tablet and a smartphone? | 12:45 |
| Joonaa | i think someone this morning said he got it after 20 days | 12:47 |
| toerb | not bad, just waiting for 8 days now | 12:48 |
| MrSparrowFart | so the tablet does it also have a powervr soc | 12:49 |
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| phdeswer | MrSparrowFart: nope. Specs are there, just go read them, no powervr | 12:58 |
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| TMavica | I found 4 official ambiences got update, whats the changelog? | 13:25 |
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| xfade_ | TMavica: Some localization fixes and black got a fix for cover color afaik. | 13:28 |
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| TMavica | Thx. Just found black got have different | 13:28 |
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| Joonaa | hmm, was the pink cover supposed to have some sort of theme with it? | 13:31 |
| Joonaa | i think the first time i put it on it gave me some sort of menu but i hit the screen while putting it on | 13:31 |
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| xfade_ | Joonaa: each TOH has its own ambience | 13:34 |
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| Joonaa | so yes.. | 13:34 |
| Joonaa | how do i get it? | 13:34 |
| xfade_ | Connect your toh? | 13:34 |
| Joonaa | i just took it off and put it on again but nothing happened | 13:34 |
| xfade_ | Connect another one and then switch back the pink one? | 13:35 |
| xfade_ | Or check in gallery to see if it is listed there already? | 13:35 |
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| Joonaa | nope, not there | 13:36 |
| Joonaa | but i guess ill check it out once i get home | 13:36 |
| Joonaa | thanks | 13:36 |
| Nicd- | the ambience also has to be favorited to activate when you connect the OH | 13:36 |
| xfade_ | It might be that it needs another toh to recheck again.. | 13:36 |
| xfade_ | As afaik it remembers which toh you had on last, so it doesn't do popups all the time | 13:37 |
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| reversepsych | is there a tamagotchi toh? | 13:39 |
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| Lieke | i wish jolla would use the changelog field in the store for their apps | 13:42 |
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| _inte_ | my all time favourite would still be a smartcardreader-toh | 13:44 |
| _inte_ | for gpg smarcards | 13:44 |
| _inte_ | but i guess i mentioned that before :-) | 13:44 |
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| _inte_ | btw: why does the recent warehous client always gives me timeouts while installing packages? | 13:47 |
| _inte_ | wasnt the case in earlier versions | 13:47 |
| schiggn | Hi! Someone knows what this means? "[W] contextFactory:108 - Could not create scene graph context for device 'customcontext' - check that plugins are installed correctly in /usr/lib/qt5/plugins" | 13:47 |
| _inte_ | and is there a way to automatically update all never packages from warehouse? | 13:48 |
| _inte_ | ah figured it out | 13:51 |
| schiggn | @inte: does pkcon update work for you (developer mode, terminal) | 13:51 |
| _inte_ | just by using zypper update :) | 13:51 |
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| _inte_ | schiggn: probably the same | 13:51 |
| _inte_ | but thx anyways | 13:51 |
| _inte_ | there should be a "update all" option in warehouse client | 13:51 |
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| _inte_ | or sth like "select package to upgrade" | 13:52 |
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| _inte_ | previously it wasnt too much a problem since one could select the next package to upgrade while another was in the process of updating, but since the recent version gives me so many timeouts its not possible to select another package while upgrading any longer | 13:54 |
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| schiggn | well. it's a beta. contact the author and pray ;) | 13:56 |
| Joonaa | pray or pay | 13:57 |
| schiggn | or both :D | 13:58 |
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| _inte_ | :) | 14:08 |
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| toerb | after two mails to the support I got my discount coupon :) | 14:11 |
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| HtheB | I have a serious battery problem. It shows 50%, but it's actually empty :/ | 14:12 |
| HtheB | It really bothers me | 14:12 |
| HtheB | Is there any way to calibrate it somehow? | 14:13 |
| schiggn | https://together.jolla.com/question/8562/battery-issue/ | 14:13 |
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| schiggn | there's much to read about... :) | 14:14 |
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| HtheB | schiggn: i've just read everything, there is nothing special over there | 14:15 |
| anandrkris | Hi - Just realized that Weather app has Settings under Setting > Apps...you have to scroll down till end :) | 14:15 |
| schiggn | there's mentioned sth about mobile network and other threads concerning your problem. I think it is not really fixed right now. | 14:16 |
| HtheB | schiggn: I think you didnt understand my problem | 14:16 |
| HtheB | my network here is just fine | 14:16 |
| HtheB | doesn't switch at all :) | 14:16 |
| HtheB | my battery shows 50%, but it's actually 0% | 14:17 |
| HtheB | it keeps on rebooting | 14:17 |
| HtheB | untill i plug it into the charger | 14:17 |
| HtheB | I made a little video about it some time ago, please take a look | 14:17 |
| schiggn | ok. now I understand your problem. | 14:17 |
| schiggn | its not refreshing battrery state below 50%. | 14:18 |
| HtheB | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLXcVzE2LE8 | 14:18 |
| HtheB | schiggn: not only 50%, on every state | 14:18 |
| HtheB | here, i plug in a charger, and suddenly i gained SO MUCH battery :/ | 14:18 |
| HtheB | thats not possible | 14:18 |
| schiggn | +1 for the parrot :D | 14:19 |
| HtheB | schiggn: xD | 14:19 |
| HtheB | something is really not right about this... | 14:23 |
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| ggabriel | HtheB: sounds like bad battery or something? i had similar situations when skiing and the temperature was very low (although I saw a temperature related warning) | 14:24 |
| ggabriel | or you have an advanced battery prototype | 14:25 |
| HtheB | yeah, advanced battery.... that gets rebooted everytime I want to answer a phonecall.. | 14:25 |
| ggabriel | well, it's a prototype | 14:25 |
| HtheB | because the % isn't showing correctly | 14:25 |
| HtheB | :D | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | i do see a small difference between reboots in the battery charge | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | which is expected, or at least i've seen it in all my devices | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | but yours is too much | 14:26 |
| HtheB | yes, small difference.. not like 50%!? | 14:26 |
| HtheB | :P | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | yours is more like 34% | 14:26 |
| ggabriel | erm, 35% | 14:27 |
| ggabriel | but yeah, bad battery maybe | 14:27 |
| HtheB | it differes every time | 14:27 |
| HtheB | damn | 14:27 |
| HtheB | now I need to contact the support AGAIN :( | 14:27 |
| HtheB | it's like the 4th time now that I sent my phone to them :( :( | 14:27 |
| schiggn | didn't find a solution too but there are many people sharing your tears;D | 14:27 |
| ggabriel | hopefully they can just send a battery? | 14:27 |
| schiggn | 4th time??? | 14:28 |
| HtheB | schiggn: yes, I have many bad luck with Jolla :( | 14:28 |
| schiggn | do NOT dry it in your microwave! | 14:28 |
| HtheB | everytime, a different problem | 14:28 |
| HtheB | like phone does not vibrate anymore | 14:28 |
| HtheB | screen got a lot of yellow spots | 14:28 |
| * Joonaa makes a mental note to not let HtheB touch his phone. | 14:29 | |
| HtheB | and again, yellow spots, even after repair :/ (seems like they didn't control it?) | 14:29 |
| schiggn | hm. I do not have any issues with jolla. some android apps sometimes crash. but I do not have google store or similar, so it's just handmade. | 14:29 |
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| HtheB | schiggn: the problems that I have are all hardware related | 14:29 |
| ggabriel | i'm not sure why companies don't have a policy of just giving you a brand new device when you report a 2nd failure | 14:30 |
| Joonaa | its expensive | 14:30 |
| Bawal | huh weird, i also noticed a yellow spot on my screen the other day. it doesn't seem to be quite permanent tho, it disappeared and appeared later again, it seems to come and go | 14:30 |
| illusionz | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/03/09/review_imagination_technologies_mips_creator_ci20_development_board/ | 14:30 |
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| Bawal | atm i think it has something to do with heating | 14:30 |
| ggabriel | Joonaa: yeah, but a) what's the probability of it happening b) you get a lot more from your customer that way | 14:31 |
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| HtheB | Bawal: go to "about:blank" in the browser | 14:31 |
| HtheB | its mostly noticeable on white pages | 14:31 |
| Joonaa | ggabriel thats true | 14:31 |
| Bawal | as it seems to appear when recharging and using some heavy-ish apps, video streaming android software (twitch.tv) and recharging was the first time i noticed it | 14:31 |
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| Bawal | HtheB: yeah and if you look at almost black screen from a very low angle you can see the anomaly in the screen | 14:32 |
| HtheB | yup | 14:32 |
| Bawal | ie. you pull down to lock the screen but don't let go, and then it's visible from a low angle | 14:32 |
| HtheB | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=93624 | 14:32 |
| Bawal | yeah, the one i have is a lot smaller, on the same border of the phone tho. right in the middle of the screen | 14:34 |
| Bawal | plus it's not quite permanent | 14:34 |
| HtheB | mine was | 14:34 |
| HtheB | cybette: ping? | 14:35 |
| cybette | HtheB: pong | 14:36 |
| HtheB | Is it possible to get a battery, and when I received, sent the old one back? :( | 14:36 |
| HtheB | (read above to see my problem) | 14:37 |
| schiggn | perhaps you may check battery temperature while on heavy load? I checked my phone right now for yellow spots but it seems like everything is ok... As I told before: pray and pay xD | 14:38 |
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| uuhimhere | did you know that forest gump was once the world no 1 ping pong player | 14:38 |
| HtheB | schiggn: its not heavy loaded at all... | 14:38 |
| tadzik | and an astronaut | 14:38 |
| tadzik | and a chessmaster | 14:38 |
| schiggn | Ah. Bawal mentioned heavy load then. | 14:39 |
| cybette | HtheB: you have to check with Jolla Care. I don't have all the access to e.g. battery stock and repair process. please make sure you give as much details as you can when you send your device in. | 14:40 |
| HtheB | thats the problem | 14:40 |
| HtheB | I dont want to be losing my phone AGIAN :( | 14:41 |
| HtheB | took about 2 weeks last time | 14:41 |
| politie | fedexed | 14:41 |
| Bawal | schiggn: yeah, i think the damage on my screen is not that severe yet, it might be going to the HtheB-level direction though eventually. not gonna do anything yet, gonna monitor if the situation changes | 14:41 |
| schiggn | perhaps you should buy a second one, so one for use and one for repair... | 14:41 |
| Bawal | HtheB: your screen, did it become worse gradually or everything at once? | 14:42 |
| schiggn | Bawal: perhaps you may have a look at sensor-outpouts while on heavy load? I think theres a sensors daemon in dbus. | 14:42 |
| inte | THAT is amazing | 14:44 |
| HtheB | aha | 14:44 |
| inte | ive just learned that its not only possible to put an app into shortcuts | 14:44 |
| inte | like torch | 14:44 |
| schiggn | congrats :D | 14:45 |
| inte | its also possible to go into the torch menu and add the trigger | 14:45 |
| HtheB | AHA! | 14:45 |
| inte | i always had the torch in the shortcuts | 14:45 |
| HtheB | I knew it! | 14:45 |
| inte | opened it and hit the trigger | 14:45 |
| HtheB | I just did a battery resistance test | 14:45 |
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| HtheB | it Failed | 14:45 |
| inte | but now its much more convenient, great!! :-) | 14:45 |
| inte | just added the dalvik switch from coderus and was wondering why i didnt have the trigger like he has in his screenshots | 14:46 |
| inte | :) | 14:46 |
| inte | amazing | 14:46 |
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| HtheB | www.HtheB.com/list/images/jollabattery.jpg | 14:49 |
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| kjetilho | inte: what is this "torch" and "trigger"? | 14:50 |
| inte | torch is (i gues) a torch-app (flashlight) through patchmanager | 14:50 |
| inte | its in the settings menu after installation | 14:51 |
| inte | when you open the torch-entry, you find the trigger to enable or disable the light | 14:51 |
| inte | i always had the menupoint in my shortcuts menu as i wasnt aware that its also possible to link the trigger directly | 14:52 |
| kjetilho | hmm, I don't have anything like that I think? running 1.1.2.16 | 14:52 |
| inte | https://openrepos.net/content/sfietkonstantin/torch-plugin-jolla-settings | 14:54 |
| kjetilho | aha. so I need to add another App store? | 14:55 |
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| inte | best to install the openrepos client called "warehouse" | 14:55 |
| coderus | inte: better install powermenu and activate torch by power button doubleclick :D | 14:55 |
| inte | coderus: nice :) | 14:56 |
| kjetilho | coderus: ehm, I don't think I want to risk turning on the flashlight by accident in my pocket :) | 14:56 |
| kjetilho | that happens all too often with a Samsung "feature phone" I use sometimes. | 14:56 |
| coderus | kjetilho: i never had accident press on any button in jolla, also doubleclick :D | 14:59 |
| inte | kjetilho: https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse-sailfishos | 14:59 |
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| kjetilho | so much to learn... | 15:00 |
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| SfietKontantinW | PSA: SailfishOS, open source, collaboration meeting starting on #mer-meeting | 15:00 |
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| HtheB | just made a new ticket again :( | 15:03 |
| inte | good luck | 15:04 |
| inte | replacement battery maybe | 15:04 |
| inte | btw | 15:04 |
| inte | HtheB: which charger are you using? | 15:04 |
| HtheB | inte: default one, why | 15:04 |
| inte | i had similar issues when using a N900 charger | 15:04 |
| HtheB | hmm | 15:05 |
| HtheB | I did charge my phone before with that charger | 15:05 |
| inte | i kept theese issues for a few cycles even after I reverted to the genuine charger | 15:05 |
| HtheB | but never had any issues | 15:05 |
| HtheB | i see | 15:05 |
| HtheB | we'll see what they say :) | 15:05 |
| uuhimhere | best way to rescusitate a desd bat is to hoo it up to a car batt and bring the emgine rpm up to 5krpm | 15:05 |
| inte | when was the last time you used the n900 one? | 15:05 |
| inte | is the mer-meeting open question? | 15:09 |
| uuhimhere | yes as in ask i brought chips who brought the dip | 15:11 |
| HtheB | inte: I dont remember it anymore | 15:13 |
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| thp | SfietKontantinW: is there a list of all patches for patch manager? | 16:29 |
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| flux | hmh, latest upgrade says it brought aacplus support to gstreamer (didn't it?) yet sailwave is unable to play such streams, tells me that gstreamer is missing a plugin | 16:34 |
| coderus | thp: i'm trying to update wiki every week: https://github.com/sailfishos-patches/patchmanager/wiki/Patches-list | 16:36 |
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| coderus | Battery Overlay - Simple colored line on top of everything to display bettery charge percentage. Have fun! :) https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/battery-overlay | 16:52 |
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| ikarus | coderus: interesting | 16:53 |
| ikarus | reminds me, I need to make something to show the wifi network picked in a swipe | 16:54 |
| ikarus | preferably, I'd also have a priority list | 16:54 |
| inte | any plans on bluetooth support for android applications running in dalvik? | 16:57 |
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| tadzik | coderus: oh, speaking of patches: Sneak Peak should probably be called Sneak Peek :) Sneak Peak is like Stealth Mountain | 17:04 |
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| schiggn | is there a signal one may get on minimizing apps to cover and back? | 17:13 |
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| coderus | tadzik: yes, but it's too late to rename everything :) | 17:24 |
| coderus | schiggn: yes, there is coverStatus signal on session dbus | 17:24 |
| tadzik | :) alright | 17:24 |
| coderus | schiggn: if you want it for your app you should use cover status property | 17:25 |
| schiggn | thanks! sometimes its that easy...and thinking that complicated :D | 17:25 |
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| ikarus | ah, that sounds like a solution for my non-Qt app to have a cover image atleast | 17:27 |
| coderus | schiggn: btw, #sailfishos is for developing, this one for any random questions about jolla company and devices | 17:27 |
| coderus | ikarus: lol | 17:27 |
| schiggn | coderus: ok. thank you. I'll join it :) | 17:27 |
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| ikarus | coderus: existing SDL code base, porting it is annoying | 17:28 |
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| Stskeeps | awesome: https://danielrapp.github.io/doppler/ | 18:27 |
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| M4rtinK | cool! | 18:32 |
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| lpotter | Stskeeps: MS did this 3 years ago... http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/redmond/groups/cue/SoundWave/ | 18:32 |
| Stskeeps | yeah | 18:32 |
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| lpotter | ahh, I see the readme mentions this :) | 18:34 |
| lpotter | that is one of the things i was just starting to research when nokia sold Qt/shut the Brissie office | 18:35 |
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| M4rtinK | who will be the first to do QML bindings for this ? :) | 18:39 |
| M4rtinK | I did QR code rendering QML bindings recently, so someone else needs to do that :) | 18:40 |
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| Teemu | oh dang, att goes to release software defined networks as something you can actually rent | 18:48 |
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| messerting | Hi, I can't figure out how to setup a XMPP account on my Jolla. | 18:58 |
| messerting | I've got a jabber.org account, and it worke in KDE telepathy | 18:59 |
| messerting | On the Jolla, I can't manage to get it online ("available") | 18:59 |
| messerting | (I don't want to "ignore SSL errors") | 18:59 |
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| chem|st | messerting: well then no jabber.org for you as ssl error is an unknown cert already (no idea if it is really that but I could not figure out how to get it working without ignoring ssl errors) | 19:02 |
| messerting | chem|st: ok, but in kde telepathy I have "require secure connection" ticked, and that works. Strange. | 19:02 |
| messerting | I also got an member.fsf.org account. would be surprised if that also has an invalid cert? | 19:03 |
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| messerting | chem|st: ok, now I think I understand what you mean: https://together.jolla.com/question/4998/xmpp-other-than-google-talk-does-not-work/ | 19:08 |
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| HarhaanJohtaja | anyone else got this if you are trying to search something with google by typing to adress bar in jolla browser: | 19:18 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | http://i.imgur.com/HQ8PtDL.png | 19:18 |
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| Morpog_PC__ | HarhaanJohtaja, works fine here | 19:21 |
| attah | HarhaanJohtaja: Being MITM'ed? | 19:23 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | firefox works fine | 19:26 |
| HarhaanJohtaja | and going to google and doing the search there | 19:26 |
| messerting | chem|st: Thanks - adding the cert and restarting made my jabber.member.fsf.org account work | 19:28 |
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| attah | Does anyone know how stuff makes it from TJC to the internal bug tracker? (i.e. why isn't there a "seen" tag on TJC?) | 19:33 |
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| attah | Or is it truly sufficient to tag stuff with "bug"? | 19:35 |
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| r0kk3rz | attah: thats what they say | 19:54 |
| r0kk3rz | any time we bring up the topic of a bug tracker they say that tagging things as bugs in TJC works for them | 19:54 |
| loicm_ | just want to say hello from my new phone... a jolla :) | 19:55 |
| Morpog_PC__ | hello :D | 19:55 |
| Morpog_PC__ | have fun with it | 19:55 |
| attah | r0kk3rz: okay :) hope it's true.. have a nagging feeling some might fly under the radar | 19:55 |
| r0kk3rz | attah: theres probably quite a bit that flies under the radar | 19:56 |
| loicm_ | Morpog_PC thanks :) | 19:56 |
| r0kk3rz | but they usually have a long list of fixed bugs every release, so progress is being made | 19:57 |
| attah | r0kk3rz: that's where the "seen" tag would help a bit | 19:57 |
| attah | definitely! not really complaining about the progress.. just the pre-fix feedback | 19:57 |
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| sakustar | oh my, i love these: http://www.amazon.com/eForCity-Universal-Anti-Slip-Compatible-Samsung/dp/B006EB6M2O (bought random ones) | 22:50 |
| sakustar | if it can hold a surface pro + type cover.. http://imgur.com/a/XjMbL | 22:50 |
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| fireglow | eyy scottc | 22:54 |
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| krt | hey there, is there a way to download a package from the jolla store / harbour? | 23:50 |
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| krt | let me rephrase that: i don't have a jolla device nor do i have an account for the store. however, i'd like to poke at the fdroid package that has been published there. | 23:51 |
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| silver_hook | If you need a Jolla account for that, I volunteer to help krt there. | 23:55 |
| silver_hook | So even the figuring out where the .apk downloaded from the Jolla Store are, would help us :) | 23:56 |
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