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| pdanek | Hey guys, | 10:40 |
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| pdanek | Have any of you tried the new Ubuntu Phone already? | 10:40 |
| pdanek | How do you like it? | 10:40 |
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| ortylp | I did not look for it, I do not need Ubuntu Phone, I need a phone, where I can install and boot Debian :P | 10:42 |
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| cityoflights2 | well in Israel is a working day, so here I am | 10:43 |
| pdanek | ortylp: Why would you need Debian on your phone? | 10:43 |
| ortylp | pdanek: Phone is a computer with one special application, so it could also be debian wit one more app... | 10:44 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek: i had a quick look at it on my old android phone | 11:03 |
| r0kk3rz | took me 10min to figure out how to unlock it | 11:03 |
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| r0kk3rz | its a Right to Left swipe, with zero onscreen clues | 11:04 |
| r0kk3rz | the whole jumpy bar from the left is a nice touch though, means you get a lot more apps on quick access before opening the full app drawer | 11:05 |
| pdanek | r0kk3rz: Jolla isn't exactly intuitive for first time user either | 11:05 |
| r0kk3rz | there was a bit of a learning curve | 11:05 |
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| r0kk3rz | but at least the screen jumps to say "hey swipe this way to unlock me" | 11:06 |
| r0kk3rz | rather than me running an experimental port and going "is this even working???" | 11:06 |
| pdanek | :D | 11:06 |
| r0kk3rz | i think the biggest learning for sfos is the whole gestures thing, and the cover actions | 11:07 |
| r0kk3rz | they look like little buttons | 11:07 |
| r0kk3rz | so you try and press them | 11:07 |
| r0kk3rz | now i pick up an android phone and go "WTF you mean i have to push buttons for everything.... this feels so 1991" | 11:08 |
| DrainBamaged | I don't miss buttons either, r0kk3rz | 11:08 |
| r0kk3rz | but i should put ubuntu back on my android phone and have a further play | 11:09 |
| ortylp | my wife still has issues navigating my Jolla, and it is pretty unusual for an PhD Eng. working with various computer systems in daily job | 11:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | got distracted by compiling hybris and sfos for it | 11:09 |
| Stskeeps | ortylp: did she go through the tutorial? | 11:09 |
| ortylp | never had patience to do that | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | :nod: | 11:10 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, but there are some new concepts in there | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.asktog.com/papers/raskinintuit.html | 11:10 |
| r0kk3rz | that unless you understand the concept... you're not going to know what to do | 11:10 |
| Stskeeps | my 1 1/2 year old son swipes and interacts with the interface happily :P | 11:11 |
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| Sail0r | my mom was able to use my jolla immediatly but with here windows phone she's still trying ^^ | 11:11 |
| Sail0r | maybe I should buy her a jolla for birthday | 11:11 |
| r0kk3rz | well, your 1 1/2 year old son doesnt have 15-20 years worth of old computing paradigms in his head | 11:11 |
| Stskeeps | it's really a damned funny issue with people though -- many don't realize but the iphone introduction was one big tutorial how to really use the device | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | + massive amount of 30 second commercials from apple | 11:12 |
| Stskeeps | in tv and media subsequently | 11:12 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, what people really mean when they say something is 'intuitive', what they really mean is 'it works like everything else' | 11:13 |
| r0kk3rz | which if you expect sfos to work like android, you're going to be a bit lost | 11:13 |
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| ortylp | Stskeeps: I would like to have the ability of the 1 1/2 year old for learning on top of my current knowledge... actually my own learning skill as I was 15 would still be enough, but it is long gone | 11:18 |
| Stskeeps | ortylp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity | 11:19 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah | 11:20 |
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| r0kk3rz | the trick is to never stop learning | 11:20 |
| r0kk3rz | ever | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | that said, you guys should read http://www.amazon.com/The-Shallows-Internet-Doing-Brains/dp/0393339750 | 11:20 |
| Teemu | learning rules | 11:20 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: i make a point of staying away from simple entertainment on the internet | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: ah.. this goes so much deeper | 11:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah i would imagine it does | 11:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | where we dont remember things, we remember how to google them | 11:22 |
| Stskeeps | which is ironic given how good our memory is at spatial stuff | 11:22 |
| r0kk3rz | but i see too many people, the second they have a spare moment, whip out a buzzfeed list article, or a daily funnys page or something mentally idle | 11:23 |
| r0kk3rz | i swear that cant be good for your mind | 11:23 |
| Stskeeps | i have reddit as muscle memory.. | 11:24 |
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| r0kk3rz | pdanek: my bad, its not a RIght to Left swipe, its a From Edge Right to Left Swipe | 11:26 |
| ortylp | Stskeeps: but all that navigation software is destroying it instead of aiding... It would be enough to display the map always north-up, but no, it must wildly rotate, so that you have absolutely no reference to absolute geographic directions | 11:26 |
| r0kk3rz | with zero onscreen prompting | 11:26 |
| Stskeeps | ortylp: there has to be a study about that and the london cabbies.. | 11:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | ortylp: its kinda funny, us westerners hear japan as this technological wonderland | 11:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | but the cabby had a street atlas, and would refer to it whilst waiting at the lights | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | well, the japanese streets are like really screwed, from recollection | 11:28 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah they are | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | "http://www.amazon.com/The-Shallows-Internet-Doing-Brains/dp/0393339750" | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | err.. | 11:29 |
| r0kk3rz | but it was one of my first impressions of tokyo | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.todayifoundout.com/index.php/2012/04/most-japanese-streets-dont-have-names/ | 11:29 |
| r0kk3rz | was this cabby with a street atlas | 11:29 |
| r0kk3rz | when im used to all cabbies having satnavs these days | 11:29 |
| r0kk3rz | and not knowing where anything is | 11:29 |
| Teemu | Stskeeps: why name streets if blocks and buildings have numbers and possibly names? | 11:32 |
| ortylp | one thing I noticed about addressing using zip code is that in Germany you can have one zip code for a whole (small) city or a suburb, in Poland (Gdańsk/Gdynia) there were many ZIP codes on the same street... | 11:33 |
| r0kk3rz | uk is like that | 11:33 |
| r0kk3rz | post code has maybe 15-20 dwellings each | 11:34 |
| r0kk3rz | so a block of flats would have its own post code | 11:34 |
| r0kk3rz | but in australia we have 4 digit post codes, that cover entire suburbs | 11:34 |
| ortylp | Germany/Poland has 5 digit ZIP code | 11:35 |
| ortylp | my experience with UK addressing suggests, that ZIP code and recipients name would be enough to deliver | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | usually its just code and number | 11:36 |
| r0kk3rz | i think that kinda defeats the purpose of a post code, which is to get the post to the right distribution centre | 11:38 |
| r0kk3rz | but i guess they just ignore the last 3 characters | 11:38 |
| Teemu | but why do the english world put street number before street? | 11:38 |
| r0kk3rz | Teemu: i agree it is a little backwards | 11:39 |
| ortylp | AFAIK UK was one of the first countries with organized postal system, isn't it? | 11:39 |
| tbr | In germany there used to be sub codes when it was still 4 digits | 11:39 |
| tbr | but then Rolf came around ;) | 11:39 |
| r0kk3rz | number > street > suburb > town > city | 11:39 |
| r0kk3rz | rather than city > town > street > suburb > number | 11:40 |
| pdanek | UK system seems cool to me, you put a postcode in g.maps and you always get exact buiding | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | its useful for satnavving thats for sure | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | punch in 6 characters | 11:40 |
| r0kk3rz | and you get to where you're going | 11:40 |
| ortylp | but somebody had to free the UK zip codes first... it was/is proprietary data | 11:40 |
| pdanek | unlike no postcodes in Ireland | 11:41 |
| pdanek | horrible | 11:41 |
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| Teemu | do they give out distances to three castles so that you then calculate the circle intersections? | 11:41 |
| pdanek | :D | 11:42 |
| ortylp | well... a I was in Ireland I noticed, that Ireland consists of Dublin and countryside (full of sheeps :) | 11:42 |
| Teemu | when i get to be dictator for life i'll make sure to make lots of changes to these things so that the more thoughtprovoking ones will stay hidden under the veil of public annoyance | 11:43 |
| ln- | *the plural of sheep is sheep | 11:43 |
| ortylp | ln-: thanks ;) | 11:44 |
| r0kk3rz | yes, because the english language is retarded | 11:44 |
| ortylp | r0kk3rz: you really do not want to learn Polish as foreign language... English is really easy in comparison | 11:45 |
| r0kk3rz | i have heard that polish is difficult | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | as is finnish | 11:46 |
| ortylp | r0kk3rz: and German is English with other words and a bit of grammar on top | 11:46 |
| r0kk3rz | the biggest thing learning german from an english perspective is the gendered words | 11:47 |
| r0kk3rz | that theres 3 different words for 'the' | 11:47 |
| r0kk3rz | and theres no real rhyme or reason as to which one you use where | 11:48 |
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| ortylp | r0kk3rz: the "rhyme" comes with experience, but I still make errors in almost every sentence after that many years living in this country | 11:50 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah obviously its like all the exceptions to the rules in english | 11:50 |
| r0kk3rz | you just learn them over time | 11:51 |
| Teemu | everybody drives on right side of street, the addressing system will change and bad beer will be forbidden | 11:51 |
| r0kk3rz | wrong side of the street more like Teemu :P | 11:51 |
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| Teemu | it's supposed to harmonise the world and also have enough change for everyone to complain | 11:52 |
| ortylp | I thought everything is already forbidden in UK, inclusive free thinking, not mentioning free speech | 11:52 |
| r0kk3rz | ortylp: pretty much, the english do like their rules... | 11:52 |
| Teemu | bad beer is everywhere so just banning that will create uproar | 11:53 |
| r0kk3rz | some bad beer is worse though | 11:53 |
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| Teemu | english is easy as foreign language mostly because it is everywhere | 11:53 |
| r0kk3rz | the bad australian beer is better than some of the best beer here in the uk | 11:53 |
| Teemu | its historical layers are pretty unintuitive from any viewpoint | 11:54 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Still no one who knows how to pair bluetooth through CLI? :D | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | Teemu: considering most native speakers dont master the language probably doesnt help either | 11:54 |
| Teemu | i like finnish though, (dunno about it as foreign language but at least we're mostly consistent | 11:54 |
| r0kk3rz | finnish sounds awesome, i have no idea what any of it meanss | 11:55 |
| Teemu | r0kk3rz: that makes for lots of bad learning material | 11:55 |
| r0kk3rz | but it sounds good | 11:55 |
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| Teemu | when visiting finland in summer you need only two words: | 11:55 |
| Teemu | mäyräkoira: 12-pack of beer | 11:56 |
| r0kk3rz | i got pretty far with just moi and kittos | 11:56 |
| ortylp | AmadeusXNet_: is there TJC question on it? | 11:56 |
| Teemu | hääyöaie: an intent to spend a wedding night | 11:56 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Teemu: kossu olis hyvä :D | 11:56 |
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| r0kk3rz | and olut | 11:56 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | ortylp: As far as I've been searching, i've went through the whole Google :) | 11:57 |
| Teemu | AmadeusXNet_: i'll also ban kossu and other types of nontasting strong alcohols that aren't strong enough for fuel or cleaning purposes | 11:57 |
| Teemu | drunkards better learn to like single malt and rum | 11:57 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Teemu: haha okey :D | 11:57 |
| r0kk3rz | i would say moi to people in shops, then they would spew this massive finnish sentence at me, and its at that point that I have to explain to them that im australian and didnt understand a word they said | 11:57 |
| Teemu | r0kk3rz :) super | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | r0kk3rz: just do it the only correct finnish way.. no communication whatsoever | 11:58 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | :D | 11:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 11:58 |
| Teemu | hahahaha | 11:58 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah so im told | 11:58 |
| r0kk3rz | im white and blond, so I can pass as a finn | 11:58 |
| urs | Actually, there are the communication levels of finns: | 11:59 |
| Teemu | accidental vision contact is okay if you make it clear that eye contact wasn't there and most of all it was purely nonintentional | 11:59 |
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| urs | The type 1 finn is the normal finn during the week, who is not drunk, doesn't talk, follows all the laws and regulations | 11:59 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | I'm swedishfinnish and the finns doesn't really like us. Some of them :) | 11:59 |
| urs | The type 2 finn is the drunk finn on the weekend, who talks alot, is mostly friendly but sometimes gets into fights with stranges for no apparent reason, and walks over red traffic lights if no car is coming | 12:00 |
| urs | and the type 3 finn you'll only encounter after an icehockey game of finnland against sweden or russia... | 12:00 |
| urs | ... very drunk, very rude, walks over red traffic lights on purpose and punches the hoods of cars that honk at them... :) | 12:00 |
| Teemu | that makes me nonfinnish :) | 12:01 |
| r0kk3rz | finns communicate with me just fine | 12:04 |
| r0kk3rz | but thats probably because im not finnish | 12:04 |
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| Mikaela | people online often think me as swedish or swedishfinn for some reason, but I am bad in swedish and it's one language I should learn properly | 12:17 |
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| Teemu | well it would be nice to read moonintales in the original language | 12:20 |
| Mikaela | no idea what those are | 12:21 |
| Teemu | where else would you need swedish language? :) finnswedes know finnish and everybody knows english | 12:21 |
| Mikaela | sweden also seems like good direction where to escape this country | 12:21 |
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| Teemu | ...moomintales... | 12:21 |
| Teemu | ahh | 12:21 |
| Teemu | that | 12:21 |
| Teemu | it seems a nice place | 12:21 |
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| Mikaela | moomin says a little more than moonin | 12:21 |
| Teemu | they used to make nice cars that are pretty easy to keep up | 12:22 |
| Teemu | i'm also known as ytpomastah 3000 | 12:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | Mikaela: i thought the swedes didnt really like the finns (and vice versa) | 12:24 |
| r0kk3rz | finland is EU, you can go anywhere | 12:24 |
| Mikaela | I personally have no opinion, but I am somewhat isolated from everyone | 12:25 |
| Teemu | r0kk3rz: finns had the audacity to lose themselves as part of russia when they had been for centuries a good place for sweden to draft soldiers | 12:26 |
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| Teemu | then the damn russian czar made it so that finnish language was official in administrative documents so that it looked like russian rule was more gentle than swedish rule | 12:27 |
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| r0kk3rz | yeah well im sure that part of finnish history is something that nobody really likes | 12:28 |
| Teemu | dunno | 12:28 |
| r0kk3rz | but i suppose there is a minority population of russians living in finland | 12:29 |
| Teemu | being autonomous under russian rule made a new thought surface: these ugric hoods are not part of sweden and not really part of russia so why not get independent and join as a nationstate | 12:29 |
| Teemu | there is | 12:29 |
| Teemu | and for the most part, russian rule was better for finns than anything before that | 12:29 |
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| cityoflights2 | how do you set a reminder in jolla? | 13:52 |
| ortylp | short time reminder, or logn time reminder?\ | 13:53 |
| ortylp | I use clock/timer for short time reminder | 13:53 |
| cityoflights2 | remind me when I am home to feed the cat | 13:53 |
| ortylp | and calendar, "create new event" for long time | 13:53 |
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| ortylp | for that you need "situations" | 13:54 |
| ortylp | You can trigger actions based on time and location | 13:54 |
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| attah | Is it just me.. or does "jjaone" and "Bowmore" have the same avatar on TJC? | 15:59 |
| r0kk3rz | haha | 16:00 |
| r0kk3rz | their little war is a bit amusing | 16:00 |
| Mikaela | what kind of little war? | 16:01 |
| r0kk3rz | but i guess it was inevitable when you give everyone mod powers | 16:01 |
| attah | imo both could do with a fair few chill pills | 16:01 |
| r0kk3rz | agreed | 16:01 |
| r0kk3rz | Mikaela: its an edit war mostly I think | 16:01 |
| attah | https://together.jolla.com/question/83702/bug-massive-amount-of-thumbnails-remain-in-phone-memory/ | 16:01 |
| Mikaela | edit war? | 16:02 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah, as in they're fighting over the content of the original post, and then arguing about the editing in the commentss | 16:03 |
| Mikaela | why? | 16:03 |
| r0kk3rz | who knows... | 16:03 |
| meklu|fdf | because they're silly | 16:03 |
| attah | public forums tend to attract people that get off on that :) | 16:03 |
| Mikaela | I see | 16:04 |
| r0kk3rz | we got to the bottom of the issue some time ago, that thumbnails werent being removed when pictures were deleted from the gallery | 16:04 |
| Mikaela | I never learned to use forums, IRC is more for me | 16:04 |
| attah | lucky you.. | 16:04 |
| r0kk3rz | honestly I wish there was a way to unfollow a TJC item | 16:04 |
| r0kk3rz | just because ive commented on something doesnt mean i care every time someone edits or posts | 16:05 |
| attah | i remember looking for that.. so it wasn't just PEBKAC | 16:05 |
| r0kk3rz | or mutual pebkac | 16:05 |
| Mikaela | r0kk3rz: there is unfollow somewhere in top right, I think | 16:05 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats different | 16:06 |
| attah | Mikaela: indeed the following turns into unfollow when hovered over | 16:07 |
| r0kk3rz | mine says 'follow' | 16:07 |
| attah | but r0kk3rz, you are saying it doesn't quite do it? | 16:07 |
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| Mikaela | you get notifications without following? | 16:08 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 16:08 |
| r0kk3rz | you do if you post | 16:08 |
| r0kk3rz | maybe that a bug in askbot | 16:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | ah i see now, bowmore has changed his avatar to jjaones | 16:10 |
| r0kk3rz | because jjaone made the mistake of feeding a troll | 16:10 |
| attah | don't quit follow the logic in that.. | 16:11 |
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| attah | +e | 16:11 |
| Mikaela | same | 16:12 |
| r0kk3rz | yes well, there are a lot of people out there who seem to gain enjoyment from posting inflammatory statements on internet forums | 16:14 |
| attah | that part i do know.. it's just the avatar bit i don't get :) | 16:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | i can only assume its an attempt to antagonise jjaone further | 16:17 |
| r0kk3rz | im surprised he didnt register a new user with the name jja0ne or something similar | 16:17 |
| attah | now don't go giving him any ideas here ;) | 16:18 |
| attah | anyway.. i should stop giving a toss and fix up some burgers | 16:19 |
| Mikaela | burgers would be welcome here too, I seem to be getting hungry again | 16:19 |
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| attah | i have some to spare but id assume you are in .fi so that wouldn't work | 16:21 |
| Teemu | seitan is great | 16:22 |
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| tbr | r0kk3rz: if it gets out of hand poke me. I still have mod rights there. | 16:24 |
| Mikaela | yes, I am in Finland | 16:24 |
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| Nicd- | Teemu: https://i.imgur.com/2l2KD1Q.gif | 16:38 |
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| Teemu | :) | 16:42 |
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| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: http://spritesmods.com/?art=hddhack&page=1 << some scary bedtime reading for you | 16:44 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | <-- in Hanko :) | 16:46 |
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| Mikaela | 2015-03-01 18:55:18+0200 <@Dysforia> 2015-03-01 16:25:52 - together - Official complaint and report on offenses, abuse, threats and other potentially illegal actions by user @Bowmore against me (@jjaone) and other Jolla Together forum members. - | 16:58 |
| Mikaela | https://together.jolla.com/question/84141/official-complaint-and-report-on-offenses-abuse-threats-and-other-potentially-illegal-actions-by-user-bowmore-against-me-jjaone-and-other-jolla/ | 16:58 |
| tbr | *sigh* | 17:00 |
| Tegu | oh well, TJC drama.. | 17:01 |
| tigeli | uu | 17:02 |
| r0kk3rz | wow... | 17:02 |
| * tbr leaves that to Jolla-the-company employees | 17:02 | |
| r0kk3rz | thats probably for the best tbr | 17:03 |
| * tbr doesn't get paid for getting involved with drama queens | 17:03 | |
| r0kk3rz | ping cybette | 17:03 |
| * tigeli thinks he is not going to read the thing before Monday.. | 17:07 | |
| tiwake | when is jolla doing their presentation thing at MWC? | 17:08 |
| tiwake | at least I'm guessing thats how it works | 17:09 |
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| r0kk3rz | tiwake: i thought it was more a convention centre type thing where everyone has a spot to pimp their wares | 17:12 |
| tiwake | oh ok | 17:13 |
| r0kk3rz | but i suppose there might also be a central stage type thing | 17:13 |
| tiwake | I was guessing it was more about panels and stuff, where the vendors showing off shinies as a side thing | 17:15 |
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| r0kk3rz | [16:30]Nokiusanyone knows the time Jolla has the press event tomorrow? | 17:19 |
| r0kk3rz | [16:32]Nokiusfound it --> March 2, 10am Porta Fira Hotel | 17:19 |
| r0kk3rz | is what nokius just posted in #sailfishos | 17:19 |
| tiwake | oh hey | 17:19 |
| tiwake | *heh | 17:19 |
| r0kk3rz | so one would think, if they have any big news, thats when we're likely to hear about it | 17:20 |
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| Sail0r | wtf https://together.jolla.com/question/84141/official-complaint-and-report-on-offenses-abuse-threats-and-other-potentially-illegal-actions-by-user-bowmore-against-me-jjaone-and-other-jolla/ | 17:50 |
| Yaniel | oh the dramaa | 17:50 |
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| ortylp | Sail0r: it is not worth the time, forget it | 17:51 |
| Sail0r | strange things happen in communities all the time | 17:51 |
| Yaniel | well I'd rather keep my drama in movies and RPGs | 17:52 |
| Yaniel | no need for it irl | 17:52 |
| Mikaela | my drama is everywhere, a lot at irc too | 17:53 |
| Mikaela | something else would be a nice change | 17:53 |
| r0kk3rz | some people live for drama, others forcibly remove it from their lives | 17:54 |
| r0kk3rz | but i agree, i usually outsource my drama to tv series | 17:55 |
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| Mikaela | how do you remove it from your life? | 17:57 |
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| ortylp | Mikaela: Just ignore and move forward | 17:59 |
| Mikaela | I cannot :( | 18:00 |
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| r0kk3rz | well, step 1 is stop creating it | 18:03 |
| r0kk3rz | then step2 is stop associating with people that create it | 18:03 |
| ortylp | Mikaela: If you get insulted verbally every second day, you simply start ignoring it or get suicidal. as the second option is of no use to noone, just think about the future, not the past | 18:03 |
| ortylp | r0kk3rz: I do second your opinion | 18:04 |
| Mikaela | get suicidal and avoid that place and get all kinds of piling issues seems to be what I am doing | 18:04 |
| r0kk3rz | of course thats a lot easier said than done at times | 18:04 |
| ortylp | Mikaela: I am talking from my personal experience. Look FORWARD, avoid direct confrontation, focus on things that you enjoy and can do best | 18:06 |
| Mikaela | there is just nothing | 18:06 |
| Mikaela | and #suicidewatch could probably be more appropiate place for this | 18:06 |
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| Mikaela | night | 18:34 |
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| r0kk3rz | http://science.slashdot.org/story/15/03/01/1323222/research-suggests-that-saunas-help-you-live-longer << just in case anyone needed further reason to go to the sauna at every opportunity | 18:38 |
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| * ryukafalz has not been to one | 18:43 | |
| r0kk3rz | ryukafalz: you should | 18:44 |
| ryukafalz | it sounds relaxing | 18:44 |
| r0kk3rz | it is | 18:45 |
| r0kk3rz | and not at all as weird as i thought it was going to be, as a non-finn | 18:45 |
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| ryukafalz | heh | 18:45 |
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| r0kk3rz | but you do get quite light headed jumping into the lake straight after | 18:46 |
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| ryukafalz | haha, I can't swim so that's out XD | 18:52 |
| ryukafalz | despite growing up next to the ocean | 18:52 |
| r0kk3rz | im australian, so not learning to swim was never an option | 18:53 |
| ryukafalz | hasn't caused a problem for me, though it does mean that I have very good life vests when I'm out on the water heh | 18:54 |
| Nicd- | oh man, now I want to go to our sauna | 18:55 |
| Nicd- | but it's too late :( | 18:55 |
| ryukafalz | oh it's night time over in Finland, right | 18:55 |
| ryukafalz | it's early afternoon here haha | 18:55 |
| lpotter | thats because when its -20C outside, a little warmth is nice | 18:56 |
| * svuorela haven't been in a sauna since chistmas | 18:56 | |
| * ryukafalz should hang out in this channel more often, seems to be the more community oriented channel | 18:58 | |
| lpotter | it's also the reason why sauna's are not very popular in Australia | 18:59 |
| Teemu | huh? | 19:02 |
| Teemu | finnish peacekeeper korps have built a sauna everywhere they go and it has always been pretty popular | 19:02 |
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| lpotter | when it's 40C outside, the last place you wanna be is in a sauna | 19:04 |
| ryukafalz | I mean you're practically in one already :P | 19:04 |
| Nicd- | well, after the sauna the air is gonna feel a lot cooler :P | 19:05 |
| r0kk3rz | lpotter: i think the tasmanians should get into the whole sauna thing | 19:06 |
| r0kk3rz | queenslanders not so much | 19:06 |
| lpotter | ya well, that's overseas :) | 19:06 |
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| coderus | Higest urgency! Do not use Aliendalvik Cleanup application on U11! https://together.jolla.com/question/84178/higest-urgency-do-not-use-aliendalvik-cleanup-by-schturman-on-112x-u11/ | 19:14 |
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| Teemu | lpotter: in syria (a loooooong time ago) the locals loved the sauna | 19:19 |
| Teemu | in syria 40C in summer is mild | 19:19 |
| lpotter | they also do not have 99% humidity either | 19:19 |
| Teemu | 40C and 99% humid? | 19:20 |
| Teemu | sounds pretty bad | 19:20 |
| zutto | that sounds like nightmare to be honest | 19:20 |
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| lpotter | coastal queensland is like that | 19:20 |
| Teemu | anyway a big point of the whole sauna thing is that it is so damned hot your lizard brain cannot do anything else than think oh shit hothothothothothothothothottttt | 19:21 |
| zutto | my biggest nemesis in finland is those hot +25°c - +30°c weathers | 19:21 |
| Teemu | and then you get out and youre _relieved_ and relaxed like nothing else | 19:21 |
| r0kk3rz | sounds like singapore | 19:22 |
| zutto | sg isnt bad as that | 19:22 |
| Teemu | even if you escape the sauna to 40C lots of humidity it is way less hot than the sauna, so you're saved, you're free, you're alive | 19:22 |
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| r0kk3rz | i could barely function in parts of the day in singapore | 19:23 |
| r0kk3rz | too hot, too humid | 19:23 |
| r0kk3rz | my fault for being outside at 3pm, but anyway... | 19:23 |
| zutto | thank god for the aircons! | 19:24 |
| Ezko | indeed, thank you dog | 19:24 |
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| Almindor | does TED work for anyone lately? | 19:50 |
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| Almindor | at first landscape mode didn't work for me and now I get "you need to get google play services" error. Is it completely unusable on jolla now? | 19:50 |
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| Almindor | hm the one from aptoide is broken | 19:55 |
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| Almindor | yandex one works (with the landscape bug) | 19:55 |
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| ortylp | Almindor: I subscribe TED as podcast. Never used any TED app. | 20:18 |
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| Almindor | ortylp, how does that work? How do you watch the presentations then? | 20:21 |
| ortylp | I listen to audio (in 1.5x realtime), if the contents is interesting enough I visit youtube or TED website and watch the presentation. | 20:23 |
| ortylp | Alternatively you can subscribe to TED video and watch video (as video podcast) | 20:23 |
| ortylp | I find it really annoying when appstore is filled with content specific apps as an app for each podcast and radio station. You need only one podcast player/manager and radio stream player (if that is not included already in the podcast player) | 20:25 |
| Almindor | makes sense I guess | 20:25 |
| ortylp | there is gpodder (by thp), but it does not support audio playback speeds, otherwise It would be my podcast player of choice | 20:27 |
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| ortylp | Almindor: http://gpodder.org/ http://gpodder.org/downloads | 20:30 |
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| ortylp | Almindor: and that thing about "google play services" report to the TED app developers, because this app will not work on any google-free device | 20:37 |
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| cvp_ | Have someone a GoPro working with Jolla ? | 20:42 |
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| Nicd- | I bought a Nokia device this week | 21:16 |
| Nicd- | felt nostalgic, just like old times | 21:16 |
| Nicd- | until I read Microsoft's name from the packaging :/ | 21:17 |
| Nicd- | good thing it was only a microusb charger :) | 21:17 |
| ahjolinna | well I can't wait for Nokia N1 tablet...I OC bought the Jolla tablet :P | 21:19 |
| ortylp | Nicd-: I bough Nokia 515 dualsim, model year 2013, still with Symbian S40. It is most probably the last real "Nokia" smartphone after N9.... | 21:19 |
| Tegu | s40, smartphone? | 21:19 |
| ortylp | the alternative would be Jolla with TripleSim | 21:20 |
| Tegu | also s40 is not symbian at all | 21:20 |
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| ninnnu | I got an old N810 a few weeks ago to play around with...Got strong "what it could've been"-feelings :P | 21:20 |
| ortylp | For me Nokia 6110 was smartphone, it had enough "smart" for my needs | 21:20 |
| Tegu | but yea, I've got a nokia c2-01 candybar and it's just fine :) | 21:21 |
| sakustar | if only someone soldered the usb ports on the n900s with permanent connections | 21:21 |
| sakustar | :( | 21:21 |
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| ahjolinna | I still love my Nokia N9 and N900 phones | 21:21 |
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| kimmoli | kinky | 21:22 |
| ortylp | sakustar: I had never had problems with USB on N900, but I got it in January 2010, so a few months after everybode else... | 21:22 |
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| sakustar | ortylp: you are the chosen one | 21:23 |
| sakustar | i bought 3 or 4 after factory replacement finally came back as e7 | 21:23 |
| sakustar | all of them broke off too :p | 21:24 |
| sakustar | anyone need n900 internals? | 21:24 |
| ortylp | sakustar: only battery, that would last for at least 16 hours instead of 5-6 (as the original one did).... I had to carry two spares in my pocket :D | 21:27 |
| * tbr still has a stack N900 and N950 batteries | 21:29 | |
| tbr | and boy I made use of those | 21:29 |
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| tiwake | Nicd-: lol | 22:43 |
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| HtheB | AmadeusXNet_: arrrg | 23:19 |
| HtheB | >.< | 23:19 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Good evening HtheB :) | 23:19 |
| HtheB | good evening :D | 23:20 |
| HtheB | pff, I just got back :( | 23:20 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Long day at work? | 23:20 |
| HtheB | yeah | 23:20 |
| AmadeusXNet_ | Damn :D | 23:20 |
| Morgawr | b-b-but it's sunday | 23:23 |
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| AmadeusXNet_ | :D | 23:24 |
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| HtheB | Morgawr: some people work at sundays ":p | 23:42 |
| HtheB | so that people can go shopping on mondays :D | 23:42 |
| Morgawr | HtheB: That's true, I used to work at a ticket booth for the stadium and I'd often had to work on sunday nights during the football matches... | 23:45 |
| HtheB | :D | 23:48 |
| HtheB | I work on sundays at a warehouse | 23:48 |
| HtheB | it's just 1 day a week | 23:48 |
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