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sledgesmarc is up!13:08
sledgeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cx2FXYNzsrM13:08
sledgesthose who missed: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=cx2FXYNzsrM#t=807413:10
sledges:)13:10
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Mikaeladoes anyone have any idea on running unbound or dnsmasq on Jolla?13:22
MikaelaOr how do I see what DNS servers it thinks it's using and how would I go changing those?13:22
Sail0rit's done by connman13:23
Sail0rconnman is running as a local dns proxy13:24
falfait's a trap!13:24
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Mikaelaconnman feels a little like trap as many WLAN networks are broken and I think it has something to do with the DNS servers those try to use13:26
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ppthe opt-in has a bug if there's only one dns server AFAIK13:32
Sail0r    Nameservers = [ 2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::2222 192.168.0.242 ]13:32
Sail0r;)13:33
Mikaelawhich file has that?13:33
Sail0ryou need to install connman-test and run  /usr/lib/connman/test/get-services | grep Nameservers13:33
Mikaelachecking13:34
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chem|stpp: if the AP provides one dns... it is the APs fault13:37
Sail0rone dns is normal for home env13:38
chem|stSail0r: ehrm, untouched routers get two dns from the provider end...13:39
Sail0rbut most only broadcast themself to the connected devices13:39
Sail0rso one is shown on the devices13:39
ppya, could be only cellular that's affected tho: https://together.jolla.com/question/82147/bug-no-data-connection-after-update-rc-11215/13:39
Mikaelathese appear to be network specific. How would I enforce some nameservers to every network?13:40
Mikaelaand put the unbound what I am putting everywhere there13:40
Sail0rhttps://together.jolla.com/question/82147/bug-no-data-connection-after-update-rc-11215/13:41
Sail0rfor every network in /var/lib/connman set a static nameserver13:41
Sail0ror in the default.profile13:41
MikaelaI mean for every network at the same time, not per-network13:42
Sail0rwhich i would not recommend13:42
Sail0rI cannot recommend setting a static dns for everything13:42
Sail0rmaybe some providers block DNS to other servers then themself13:42
chem|sthow do I list nameservers that connman sees?13:42
Mikaelahow about GUI-option where I can set specific DNS servers to networks that don't work13:42
Sail0rchem|st: 14:33:42 Sail0r: you need to install connman-test and run  /usr/lib/connman/test/get-services | grep Nameservers13:42
Sail0rMikaela: there is a gui but only to specify everything manual13:43
Sail0rbecause it's very uncommon that IP is provided with DHCP but nameservers not13:44
Mikaelaexamples of networks that don't work: Pasaati Free, POHJOLAN_LIIKENNE, Forum Free13:44
MikaelaI don't know if anything is surely wrong with those networks, but I think at least one laptop user successfully used POHJOLAN_LIIKENNE and my Jolla shouldn't be having any weird WLAN issues as HUSGUEST worked (I was in air place mode, but I don't think that affects anything)13:44
Sail0ryou need to get an debug output13:44
Sail0rwhy nameservers are not set13:45
Sail0reverything else is only a workaround which could lead to even more problems then it solves13:45
Mikaelaoh and Kamppi Free didn't work either, but these networks are about ~200 KM away from me so I cannot test and home network with everything manual works13:45
MikaelaPasaati Free is in this city, but not so near and I wouldn't have any reason to go there now13:46
Sail0rinstall connman-tracing13:46
Sail0rand see what it spits out on event of fail13:46
Mikaelahow do I use that? I also probably won't be in area of those networks in near future13:47
Sail0rit will log to journalctl13:49
Sail0ryou can search the logs afterwards13:49
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MikaelaI see13:49
Mikaelais connman DNSSEC aware?13:52
Sail0rdon't know and don't really care ^^13:52
locusfdon't you need the additional software package for dnssec, at least in openwrt one does need it13:56
locusf?13:56
locusf(I've got dnscrypt in my router)13:56
locusfso I guess were talking about different things now13:56
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ursIs there any way to silence calendar notifications, if you missed the initial dialogue for them?14:35
ursLike, I set a calender notification, it notifies me, I reflexively press the wakeup button on the phone, it goes away unconfirmed14:35
ursand then bothers me again after 5 minutes14:35
fluxwell, you can remove the calendar entry itself I think 8-)14:36
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Joonaaurs: that has to be some of the worst functionality after the "unlock phone after ive locked it" when adding/removing headphones16:57
Joonaai always press it because the screen doesnt wake up first16:57
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xkr47interesting, my phone is showing a pulley menu in the lock screen with an option to "Close All"18:26
xkr47I guess I might have accidentally activated the "close apps" mode and then left the phone long enough for it to lock18:26
xkr47will try to reproduce and will file a bug if my guess was right18:27
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intejust got a notification for a new update20:02
inteis it safe? (early access)20:02
HtheByes20:02
Mikaelano issues here20:02
HtheBcheck out the release notes20:02
inte1.2.1620:02
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inteit only says itll enhance stability:)20:03
chem|stinte: mail login fix and mobile-data dns patch20:03
inteoh sorry just saw there is a more complete note:)20:04
intecool thx!!20:04
inteno need zo unpatch patchmanager patches then, i presume20:04
Sceltinte: better unpatch them20:05
Teguand they might not work in the new version20:05
inteok i will20:05
inteas always:)20:05
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inteinstalled!20:19
inteall patch seem to work as well:)20:19
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intethe update includes a bugfix for jolla keyboard20:20
intei hope this will fix the vk-still-active-but-not-visible issue20:21
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stephginte: I think I just saw that just before the update21:12
stephgcover gestures work, as do swipes but can't do anything in-app?21:12
inteyes exactely21:12
inteput it on tjc a couple of days ago21:13
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intemh. are there issues with cut and paste with the most recent update?21:26
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Mikaelawere OS changelogs visible somewhere in Jolla itself without opening web browser?21:30
Mikaelaand this one doesn't want to remove that notice on update being available even if I just installed it21:30
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intethe update notification is gone21:39
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intecutn paste is broken for me now, though21:40
intedon't know if it's related21:40
j-dogeinte: how is it broken?21:40
intedoesn't take new copies once it got one in21:41
intei did the first cnp21:41
inteworked fine21:41
intehowever, i can still paste the content now21:42
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intebut i can't replace it with sth. else21:42
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j-dogewell that does sound a bit bad :/21:42
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inteno problems for you after you installed the update?21:43
j-dogeinte: can you empty the clipboard?21:43
intehow do i do that?21:43
j-dogetap and hold the clipboard icon, slide your finger over 'Empty clipboard' when it pops up21:44
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inteah, that worked21:44
intewell ok21:45
inteno it didn't21:45
inteclipboard is gone after erase21:46
kimmoliclipboard gets occassionally broken. and sometimes it just also gets back working21:46
kimmolilipstick restart helps21:46
intebut when trying to refill it it still has the old content again21:46
intekimmoli ah thank so no relation to the current release21:47
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intedoes home refresh work as well?21:47
j-dogeI'll just poke somebody about it tomorrow...21:47
integreat thing thanks!21:47
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kimmolihttps://together.jolla.com/question/24697/regression-copy-and-paste-broken/21:48
kimmoliat least21:48
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inteyeah works again after home refresh:)21:50
kimmoliwhat you mean with home refreeh?21:50
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intei inatalled the home refresh app21:53
intevery usefull since my keyboard frequently crash21:53
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intekimmoli: https://together.jolla.com/question/80738/jolla-screen-becomes-unresponsive-in-various-scenarious/21:55
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intekimmoli: https://openrepos.net/content/schturman/homescreen-refresher22:01
kimmoliyes, that seems to restart lipstick22:02
kimmolihttp://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=9248722:02
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inteah cool22:03
inteso restarting lipstick will also close all open apps?22:04
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inteyeah it does:)22:07
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kimmolidunno is the bug in lipstick handling clipboard, or in QGuiApplication::clipboard() which it uses22:21
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LinnakAre there any jolla tablet review videos on the internet?22:40
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J4ZZHi sailors, I could need some help with troubleshooting my /home/nemo/android_storage fuse mount... I already consultated chemist over at tjc but we couldn't fix it...23:46
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