| *** pdanek <pdanek!~orech@87-198-38-168.ptr.magnet.ie> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 00:12 | |
| *** silver_hook <silver_hook!~hook@unaffiliated/silver-hook/x-2625033> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 00:16 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!~Marc1@193.138.219.233> has joined #jollamobile | 00:19 | |
| *** KaIRC <KaIRC!~robert@178-191-247-102.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 00:23 | |
| *** inte` <inte`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 00:24 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-139-107.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 00:26 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 00:27 | |
| *** blam__ <blam__!~blam@pa49-197-163-239.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 00:27 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-139-107.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 00:28 | |
| *** silver_hook <silver_hook!~hook@unaffiliated/silver-hook/x-2625033> has joined #jollamobile | 00:32 | |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 00:33 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 00:37 | |
| chem|st | J4ZZ: o/ | 00:45 |
|---|---|---|
| *** aloril <aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 00:46 | |
| *** aloril <aloril!~aloril@dsl-tkubrasgw2-54f81c-109.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 00:46 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@f053001238.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 00:55 | |
| J4ZZ | :) jup | 01:01 |
| *** ejjoman <ejjoman!~ejjoman@p54827DCD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 01:03 | |
| *** J4ZZ <J4ZZ!~J4ZZ@ip5b4282dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC () | 01:05 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@h-72-191.a163.priv.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Bouncers suck.) | 01:12 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~blizzz@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 01:21 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.55.39> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 01:26 | |
| *** n8fr8 <n8fr8!~quassel@209-6-147-165.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com> has joined #jollamobile | 01:33 | |
| *** ender| <ender|!krneki@2a01:260:4094:1:42:42:42:42> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 01:34 | |
| *** bef0rd <bef0rd!~bef0rd@unaffiliated/beford> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 01:47 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 01:48 | |
| *** ender| <ender|!krneki@foo.eternallybored.org> has joined #jollamobile | 01:50 | |
| *** pXd <pXd!~h4PPYC4T@p5DDF47D2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 01:51 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aaeo51.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 01:53 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 01:54 | |
| *** h4PPYC4T <h4PPYC4T!~h4PPYC4T@p5DDF46A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 01:54 | |
| *** uvatvmw <uvatvmw!~yuvraaj@208.91.2.2> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 01:58 | |
| *** uvatvmw <uvatvmw!~yuvraaj@208.91.2.1> has joined #jollamobile | 02:04 | |
| *** msvb-lab <msvb-lab!~mschloh@e181072109.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 02:04 | |
| *** msvb-lab <msvb-lab!~mschloh@e181076172.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 02:13 | |
| *** TMavica <TMavica!~TMavica@1-36-24-241.static.netvigator.com> has joined #jollamobile | 02:15 | |
| *** Eismann <Eismann!~quassel@82.158.21.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 02:18 | |
| *** Eismann <Eismann!~quassel@82.158.21.247.dyn.user.ono.com> has joined #jollamobile | 02:19 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!~Marc1@193.138.219.233> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 02:22 | |
| *** n8fr8 <n8fr8!~quassel@209-6-147-165.c3-0.bkl-ubr1.sbo-bkl.ma.cable.rcn.com> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 02:26 | |
| *** bef0rd <bef0rd!~bef0rd@unaffiliated/beford> has joined #jollamobile | 02:29 | |
| *** Dag0b3rt` <Dag0b3rt`!~Dag0b3rt@119-246-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de> has joined #jollamobile | 02:36 | |
| *** Dag0b3rt <Dag0b3rt!~Dag0b3rt@156-245-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 02:38 | |
| *** ndvl <ndvl!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 02:49 | |
| *** raignarok <raignarok!~raignarok@p2003007F8F211F0002224DFFFEA7B6DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 03:03 | |
| *** raignarok <raignarok!~raignarok@p2003007F8F536C0002224DFFFEA7B6DC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 03:20 | |
| *** natunen <natunen!~nalle@78-27-110-27.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 03:33 | |
| *** gexc <gexc!~gexc@115.202.183.112> has joined #jollamobile | 03:37 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 03:37 | |
| *** phlixi_ <phlixi_!~phlixi@ppp-88-217-20-155.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has joined #jollamobile | 03:39 | |
| *** phlixi <phlixi!~phlixi@ppp-212-114-183-87.dynamic.mnet-online.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 03:40 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 03:42 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has joined #jollamobile | 03:59 | |
| *** Sidde <Sidde!sidde@shell.lokalen.org> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 04:20 | |
| *** msvb-lab <msvb-lab!~mschloh@e181076172.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Quit: msvb-lab) | 04:29 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 04:32 | |
| *** pinheiro_ <pinheiro_!~pinheiro@bl15-29-62.dsl.telepac.pt> has joined #jollamobile | 04:33 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B040E55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 04:33 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B040E55.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 04:33 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 04:33 | |
| *** inte` <inte`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 04:33 | |
| *** pinheiro <pinheiro!~pinheiro@bl15-1-222.dsl.telepac.pt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 04:36 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 04:36 | |
| *** protem <protem!~protem@unaffiliated/protem> has joined #jollamobile | 05:00 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@193.179.215.102> has joined #jollamobile | 05:00 | |
| *** Sidde <Sidde!sidde@shell.lokalen.org> has joined #jollamobile | 05:05 | |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 05:13 | |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 05:13 | |
| *** natunen <natunen!~nalle@78-27-110-27.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: nalle lntyst takaisin luolan perlle ja palaa taas joskus) | 05:20 | |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@109.110.67.35> has joined #jollamobile | 05:25 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 05:26 | |
| *** Pat_o <Pat_o!~pat@rob92-9-88-161-114-92.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #jollamobile | 05:30 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 05:31 | |
| *** ahjolinna <ahjolinna!~netrunner@91-158-117-42.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 05:46 | |
| *** Joonaa <Joonaa!Joona@87-92-214-167.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 05:48 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has joined #jollamobile | 05:51 | |
| *** inte` <inte`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 05:58 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 05:58 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) | 06:02 | |
| *** PeperJohnny <PeperJohnny!~johnny@dslb-092-077-024-211.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #jollamobile | 06:10 | |
| *** radekp <radekp!~radek@82.113.39.213> has joined #jollamobile | 06:10 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B041841.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 06:21 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@p5B041841.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 06:21 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 06:21 | |
| Stskeeps | tbr: wow @ boogieboard, i thought it was locked down too | 06:22 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: they had published the protocol for the RIP board (IIRC it was USB), so I was hoping to see something, but example code for iOS, Android and Chrome was more than I expected... | 06:23 |
| Stskeeps | now i might have to get one.. so many paper sketches | 06:24 |
| tbr | :D | 06:24 |
| *** inte` <inte`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 06:24 | |
| Stskeeps | god damnit, my wallet hurts.. | 06:24 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 06:24 |
| tbr | what, just 400-500zetas ;) | 06:24 |
| Teemu | boogieboard? | 06:25 |
| Stskeeps | http://www.myboogieboard.com/ | 06:25 |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-internet-5d6a9b-168.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 06:26 | |
| tbr | http://www.myboogieboard.com/eu/products/boogie-board-sync-9.html | 06:26 |
| tbr | by looking at their sources it seems they are using fairly standard protocols (or emulating them on the client side?) | 06:26 |
| * tbr saw OBEX-FTP in there and they mentioned HID | 06:27 | |
| Stskeeps | that'd be nice | 06:27 |
| tbr | you can't port sailfish to it though. ;-þ | 06:27 |
| Stskeeps | doesn't matter, i'm thinking for solving my own purposes | 06:27 |
| sakustar | wtf http://www.noteslate.com/ , they removed everything from the website? :D | 06:31 |
| sakustar | all the information atleast | 06:31 |
| Teemu | obex-ftp? doesn't that sound a bit like 90s The New And Best Object Committee Designed Request Broker Thing coupled with a 60s File Transfer Protocol (from hell) | 06:32 |
| *** PeperJohnny <PeperJohnny!~johnny@dslb-092-077-024-211.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 06:32 | |
| Teemu | ? | 06:32 |
| Teemu | the video is not helpful and their site has no bearing on how i would transfer the great memos for me to read on anywhere else than the device | 06:33 |
| Teemu | or that if they are readable on the device... | 06:33 |
| locusf | https://github.com/jbedo/boogiesync-tablet | 06:35 |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 06:36 | |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 06:36 | |
| Teemu | on the sync bit there was something about bluetooth and evernote, neither of which are my favourites for anything | 06:36 |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-internet-5d6a9b-168.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 06:37 | |
| locusf | The Boogie Board Sync is compatible with any operating system that recognizes a USB storage device. | 06:38 |
| Stskeeps | sync was bluetooth too wasn't it | 06:38 |
| Teemu | how nice that the sdk is available for another tablet but not for "a real computer" :) | 06:39 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-abuvphfibyhyajzi> has joined #jollamobile | 06:40 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #jollamobile | 06:53 | |
| *** ecloud is now known as ecloud_wfh | 06:55 | |
| *** Andy80 <Andy80!~andy80@ubuntu/member/andy80> has quit IRC (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) | 07:05 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-abuvphfibyhyajzi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 07:06 | |
| *** ndvl <ndvl!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has joined #jollamobile | 07:11 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:13 | |
| *** bef0rd <bef0rd!~bef0rd@unaffiliated/beford> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 07:14 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 07:18 | |
| Stskeeps | new microsoft is .. strange: http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/02/25/microsoft-releases-android-keyboard-just-10-key-addicts-use-excel/ | 07:20 |
| Teemu | how nice to drop the unnecessary small words from sentences | 07:21 |
| *** dafox <dafox!~dafox@92.69.192.22> has joined #jollamobile | 07:21 | |
| Teemu | it's like english language doesn't need prepositions or postpositions for anything, they're there just for decorative purposes | 07:21 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ujvuzodyqxlhbzud> has joined #jollamobile | 07:26 | |
| tore_ | anyone know if ipv6/ipv4v6 support is planned for the next sailfish update? | 07:26 |
| Stskeeps | on what medium? wlan? mobile data? | 07:26 |
| tore_ | cellular | 07:27 |
| Stskeeps | you'd have to ask tigeli what stage of promotion his work is on | 07:27 |
| tore_ | so ipv6 and/or ipv4v6 pdp contexts | 07:27 |
| tore_ | tigeli: see above :) | 07:27 |
| tore_ | tigeli: oh, you're the one that fixed my dhcpv6 client issue too :) if I run across more issues like that (I tend to test everything ipv6 to death), would you like them submitted on together.jolla.com or directly in the github tracker? | 07:29 |
| tigeli | tore_: maybe tjc | 07:30 |
| * pp doesn't see a use until the national ipv6 launch day, but then it better work :P | 07:30 | |
| pp | so you still have a few months to give it love! | 07:30 |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #jollamobile | 07:30 | |
| tigeli | tore_: and ipv4v6/ipv6-middleware is included in 1.1.2.15/16 but if you want to testride it you need to configure ofono from the cli | 07:30 |
| tore_ | pp: cellular ipv6 is launched in norway, sweden, poland, slovenia, usa, maybe ireland and uk too | 07:31 |
| tigeli | the ui will be included when it's ready | 07:31 |
| tore_ | tigeli: I definitively would like to testride it | 07:31 |
| pp | yea, finland will join in june or so | 07:31 |
| tigeli | tore_: a sec.. | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | tore_: what vendors in poland? | 07:31 |
| tore_ | Stskeeps: Orange | 07:31 |
| Stskeeps | ah, i got rid of orange.. they were stalk-calling me on a regular basis | 07:31 |
| *** phdeswer_ <phdeswer_!~phdeswer@91-159-55-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:31 | |
| tore_ | Stskeeps: http://www.data.proidea.org.pl/plnog/12edycja/day2/track4/01_ipv6_implementation.pdf | 07:31 |
| tigeli | tore_: /bin/dbus-send --system --print-reply --dest=org.ofono /ril_0/context1 org.ofono.ConnectionContext.SetProperty string:"Protocol" variant:string:"ipv6" | 07:32 |
| tigeli | tore_: that makes ofono ipv6-only | 07:32 |
| tigeli | tore_: use "dual" for ipv4v6 and "ip" for ipv4-only | 07:32 |
| tigeli | tore_: the default is now "ip" | 07:32 |
| tore_ | very cool | 07:32 |
| tigeli | keep in mind that ipv4v6 might not work when roaming even if the home operator supports it | 07:33 |
| tigeli | as there are some buggy devices with operators ;) | 07:33 |
| tore_ | tigeli: this is your work? so if I tweet a screenshot of test-ipv6.com I should give you you a HT? | 07:33 |
| tore_ | tigeli: yeah, same with ipv6, but less common though | 07:33 |
| tigeli | tore_: well some of it is.. not all | 07:34 |
| tore_ | 2: rmnet0 inet6 2a02:2121:1:d5e1:9ff3:ebef:bca:b7bc/64 scope global dynamic | 07:36 |
| tore_ | awesome! | 07:37 |
| tigeli | tore_: also, the tethering-side is still ipv4-only.. there are no devices which would support prefix delegation on operator side and I'm still wondering if we should do proxy-nd/ipv6-nat to overcome this problem until pd is supported | 07:37 |
| tbr | that address doesn't answer to pings though, psh! | 07:37 |
| tore_ | hm, seems I have no DNS server | 07:37 |
| tore_ | browser can't resolve anything | 07:37 |
| *** phdeswer_ <phdeswer_!~phdeswer@91-159-55-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 07:37 | |
| tore_ | tigeli: you'd probably want 464XLAT (RFC6877) | 07:38 |
| tore_ | that gives an virtual ipv4 address that you can assign to a local interface | 07:38 |
| tore_ | tbr: think mobile provider telenor does statefull firewalling of all internet-inbound traffic | 07:39 |
| tigeli | tore_: yeah.. in case someone wants to do ipv4 over ipv6-only.. but I meant the case when people want to tether over ipv4v6 | 07:39 |
| tore_ | tigeli: aha | 07:39 |
| tigeli | or just plain ipv6 ;) | 07:39 |
| tore_ | RFC 7278 is what you should read | 07:40 |
| tigeli | tbr: dna allows full-traffic in/out still in beta-deployment | 07:40 |
| *** SfietKonstantin <SfietKonstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 07:40 | |
| pp | did they forget port 25 open :-) | 07:40 |
| tbr | tigeli: nice | 07:41 |
| tore_ | tigeli: yeah, there's definitively something not going right with provisioning the DNS servers here | 07:41 |
| tore_ | on ipv6-only pdp context | 07:41 |
| tore_ | I'll try ipv4v6 now | 07:41 |
| tigeli | tore_: both rdnss and dhvpv6 are supported though.. | 07:41 |
| tore_ | but on 3gpp networks the DNS server comes in PCO | 07:42 |
| tigeli | but could be a operator-side issue | 07:42 |
| tore_ | you have to ask the RIL about it somehow | 07:42 |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 07:42 | |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 07:42 | |
| tore_ | not that I'm an expert or anything | 07:42 |
| tigeli | tore_: can't tell.. I only know that autoconf is the only supported method ;) | 07:43 |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@109.110.67.35> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 07:43 | |
| tore_ | it seems to disconnect after a while, is that something it does by default because it detects no usable internet connection (i.e., no working dns)? | 07:43 |
| tigeli | tore_: no, it should not do that | 07:43 |
| Teemu | why does it try to detect connectivity? | 07:43 |
| tore_ | several implementations do that | 07:44 |
| Teemu | i'm having trouble with mine deciding "oh this is not a good network i want another" when i'm connected to a special private network | 07:44 |
| tore_ | including samsung smart TVs :D | 07:44 |
| Teemu | i hate it | 07:44 |
| *** blam__ <blam__!~blam@pa49-197-163-239.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 07:44 | |
| Teemu | i want to stay connected to this private one that has no connection to any other networks | 07:45 |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-139-107.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 07:45 | |
| tigeli | Teemu: it will try to check if the device is inside walled garden and if there is a captive portal | 07:46 |
| tigeli | Teemu: but it will not disconnect if the check fails | 07:46 |
| Teemu | currently mine goes on to hunt other wlans and 3g | 07:46 |
| tigeli | probably some other issue then | 07:46 |
| tigeli | can't tell without seeing logs | 07:47 |
| tore_ | tigeli: on ipv4v6 pdp context dns worked, but not v4 - I eventually got a link-local ipv4 address | 07:47 |
| Teemu | i'm not on the latest sailfishos | 07:47 |
| tore_ | tigeli: would be happy to give you access to this one now or whenever if you want to look into it | 07:47 |
| tigeli | Teemu: but we have never ever disconnected due that | 07:48 |
| Teemu | problem is, there is 3g and open wlans in the area | 07:48 |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-internet-5d6a9b-168.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 07:48 | |
| Teemu | so my phone connects to them | 07:48 |
| tore_ | tigeli: nevermind, I forgot to change apn name, sorry | 07:48 |
| tigeli | tore_: hehe :D | 07:49 |
| Teemu | it doesn't even ask me, it just goes on to connect to these even if i've selected my special network by hand | 07:49 |
| tigeli | tore_: and I was already typing debug instructions ;) | 07:49 |
| tore_ | so I was on the v6only apn | 07:49 |
| Teemu | i hate it | 07:49 |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@pa49-197-139-107.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 07:49 | |
| *** cxl000 <cxl000!~cxl000@c27-253-5-120.brodm4.vic.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 07:50 | |
| *** dafox <dafox!~dafox@92.69.192.22> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 07:50 | |
| tigeli | Teemu: ok.. if there are multiple available networks in the coverage of the device -> it currently behaves badly as the connman wants to connect the one which has the best signal level | 07:50 |
| tore_ | tigeli: got addresse but then it got torn down | 07:50 |
| tore_ | https://gist.github.com/toreanderson/1a62e6c9aae0250c42a6 | 07:51 |
| tore_ | addresse*s* (both v4 and v6) | 07:51 |
| Teemu | tigeli: must be something else too as this may happen when i'm pretty much next to my base station and further away from aalto open base stations | 07:51 |
| ShawnMcCool | has anyone built any interesting alternate input methods for jolla / sailfish? | 07:52 |
| tigeli | tore_: hmm.. strange and it does work on other devices? | 07:53 |
| tore_ | tigeli: I don't have any other 4G devices with ipv4v6 capability myself, but I know that telenor is using this apn for several other models | 07:54 |
| tore_ | tigeli: I can give you shell access to the phone right now if you'd like to poke around | 07:55 |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #jollamobile | 07:55 | |
| tigeli | tore_: I could have a look into it | 07:59 |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@9-133-241-92-ptp-stat.customer.blic.net> has joined #jollamobile | 07:59 | |
| tore_ | tigeli: ssh link in /msg, let me know if you want me to resize the terminal | 08:00 |
| tigeli | let's se.. | 08:01 |
| tore_ | tigeli: the ipv6-only apn is "telenor.mobil", the dual-stack one is "telenor.smart" (it supports all three pdp types) | 08:01 |
| tore_ | it's set up for the latter with ip-type dual now | 08:02 |
| tigeli | tore_: you could make the terminal little bit bigger :) | 08:02 |
| *** SfietKonstantin <SfietKonstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 08:02 | |
| tigeli | at least twice as wide :) | 08:02 |
| tigeli | thanks | 08:02 |
| tore_ | now mine is larger than yours I can tell :D | 08:02 |
| tore_ | new windows/tabs: C-b c, change between them with C-b 0/1/etc | 08:03 |
| tore_ | I can connect the wifi | 08:03 |
| tigeli | please do :) | 08:03 |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@213.160.158.74> has joined #jollamobile | 08:04 | |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~plfiorini@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Quit: Communi 3.2.0 - http://communi.github.com) | 08:04 | |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has joined #jollamobile | 08:05 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has joined #jollamobile | 08:05 | |
| *** gabriel9|work <gabriel9|work!~bojan@9-133-241-92-ptp-stat.customer.blic.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 08:06 | |
| zutto | out of curiosity, what does it mean when jollas status light rapidly flashes red light? | 08:06 |
| Yaniel | the UI crashed | 08:06 |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 08:06 | |
| zutto | i see | 08:06 |
| Yaniel | (lipstick tp be precise) | 08:06 |
| zutto | my jollas touch screen died yesterday after that | 08:06 |
| urs | see https://together.jolla.com/question/30230/wiki-meanings-of-notification-led-blink-codes/ | 08:06 |
| zutto | factory reset didnt help either | 08:06 |
| *** jmlich <jmlich!jmlich@nat/redhat/x-uoxahlrmvvriahsm> has joined #jollamobile | 08:07 | |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-internet-5d6a9b-168.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 08:13 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aael148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #jollamobile | 08:13 | |
| *** Venemo_j <Venemo_j!~venemo@fedora/Venemo> has joined #jollamobile | 08:14 | |
| *** Pilke <Pilke!~Pilke@37-33-248-110.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:22 | |
| tigeli | tore_: I know where the problem is.. ;) | 08:23 |
| tigeli | tore_: and it's my own stupid mistake :D | 08:23 |
| tore_ | :) | 08:24 |
| tore_ | that's for the auto-teardown when on ipv4v6? | 08:24 |
| tore_ | or the missing dns issue on ipv6? | 08:24 |
| *** dunp <dunp!~dunp@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa2e-245.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 08:24 | |
| tigeli | tore_: got confused about the updates.. the current update is still missing few patches. :) which are coming on the next public_update :D | 08:24 |
| *** jpetrell <jpetrell!~jpetrell@dsl-trebrasgw1-58c1f2-137.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:24 | |
| tigeli | tore_: but if you want, I can provide you with packages which work (if you want to play around).. without any official support ;) | 08:25 |
| tore_ | tigeli: I'd love that :) | 08:25 |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 08:32 | |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 08:32 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.42> has joined #jollamobile | 08:33 | |
| *** tanty_off is now known as tanty | 08:36 | |
| *** dunp <dunp!~dunp@dsl-tkubrasgw1-54fa2e-245.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 08:40 | |
| *** phdeswer <phdeswer!~phdeswer@2001:998:2a:dead:d0e2:ff0b:8db5:49ae> has joined #jollamobile | 08:43 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.42> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 08:43 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.42> has joined #jollamobile | 08:43 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~blizzz@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has joined #jollamobile | 08:46 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 08:47 | |
| *** Apteryx <Apteryx!~maxim@23.233.111.88> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 08:48 | |
| *** Apteryx <Apteryx!~maxim@23.233.111.88> has joined #jollamobile | 08:50 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@151.22.5.65> has joined #jollamobile | 08:53 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@natr.physik.hu-berlin.de> has joined #jollamobile | 08:55 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-58-165-85-102.qld.bigpond.net.au> has joined #jollamobile | 08:58 | |
| *** jjanvier_ <jjanvier_!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #jollamobile | 09:00 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 09:03 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@151.22.5.65> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 09:19 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has joined #jollamobile | 09:19 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 09:19 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has joined #jollamobile | 09:20 | |
| *** gexc <gexc!~gexc@115.202.183.112> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 09:26 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@c-207-95.eduroam.liu.se> has joined #jollamobile | 09:33 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 09:44 | |
| *** Venemo <Venemo!~venemo@fedora/Venemo> has joined #jollamobile | 09:48 | |
| *** Venemo_j <Venemo_j!~venemo@fedora/Venemo> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 09:48 | |
| *** cityoflights2 <cityoflights2!~nivw@bzq-218-29-26.cablep.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 09:50 | |
| *** cityoflights2 <cityoflights2!~nivw@bzq-218-29-26.cablep.bezeqint.net> has joined #jollamobile | 09:55 | |
| *** pcfe <pcfe!~pcfe@redhat/pcfe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 09:57 | |
| *** mjones <mjones!~mjones@pa49-197-163-239.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 10:02 | |
| *** pcfe <pcfe!~pcfe@ip5b403160.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #jollamobile | 10:04 | |
| *** pcfe <pcfe!~pcfe@ip5b403160.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 10:04 | |
| *** pcfe <pcfe!~pcfe@redhat/pcfe> has joined #jollamobile | 10:04 | |
| *** mkollaro <mkollaro!~mkollaro@91-145-85-115.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 10:06 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has joined #jollamobile | 10:06 | |
| *** TMavica <TMavica!~TMavica@1-36-24-241.static.netvigator.com> has quit IRC () | 10:16 | |
| *** inte <inte!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 10:20 | |
| *** trt` <trt`!~trt@ip70-174-22-208.hr.hr.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 10:21 | |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@mtg95-10-78-219-27-149.fbx.proxad.net> has joined #jollamobile | 10:23 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #jollamobile | 10:24 | |
| *** japa-fi <japa-fi!~jani@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50dc54-11.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 10:29 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 10:32 | |
| *** Venemo <Venemo!~venemo@fedora/Venemo> has quit IRC (Quit: Communi 3.4.0 - http://communi.github.com) | 10:33 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 10:37 | |
| *** mjones <mjones!~mjones@124-148-54-15.dyn.iinet.net.au> has joined #jollamobile | 10:42 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 10:49 | |
| *** inte_away <inte_away!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 10:51 | |
| *** inte_away is now known as inte | 10:51 | |
| *** inte is now known as inte_away | 10:51 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #jollamobile | 10:55 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@c-207-95.eduroam.liu.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Bouncers suck.) | 10:56 | |
| *** KaIRC <KaIRC!~robert@178-189-199-25.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #jollamobile | 10:58 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 10:59 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:00 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aael148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 11:01 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@p5B0404BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:02 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@p5B0404BC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 11:02 | |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 11:02 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 11:03 | |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 11:04 | |
| *** inte_away <inte_away!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 11:04 | |
| *** goroboro <goroboro!~ro@dsl-217-155-19-70.zen.co.uk> has joined #jollamobile | 11:04 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:06 | |
| *** appelgriebsch <appelgriebsch!~appelgrie@p5489495B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:09 | |
| *** eanderalx <eanderalx!~eanderalx@unaffiliated/eanderalx> has joined #jollamobile | 11:19 | |
| cityoflights2 | A while back in FOSDEM QT introduced their cellular phone. | 11:19 |
| Stskeeps | greenphone? | 11:20 |
| cityoflights2 | right | 11:20 |
| cityoflights2 | how is itdiffrent from current jolla? | 11:20 |
| Stskeeps | well, time travel as a start | 11:21 |
| tbr | that was Qtopia | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenphone | 11:21 |
| tbr | I actually turned down a greenphone back then. Mostly because it had big binary blobs all over it | 11:22 |
| tbr | including kernel modules | 11:22 |
| tbr | had already hands full with one such device, the PMA430 | 11:23 |
| *** meskal <meskal!~quassel@2a01:238:42b0:db00::1> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 11:23 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ujvuzodyqxlhbzud> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 11:25 | |
| *** meskal <meskal!~quassel@booty.meskalero.de> has joined #jollamobile | 11:25 | |
| *** lildeimos <lildeimos!~MBavagnol@host88-15-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #jollamobile | 11:25 | |
| cityoflights2 | how much of the openmoko software still lives in jolla? | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | probably close to zero | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | we never based off openmoko | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | openmoko made me want to throw the freerunner across the wall when i got it | 11:28 |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~Shinryuu@85-76-162-128-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 11:28 | |
| chem|st | cityoflights2: maemo~>meego~>mer->sailfish | 11:28 |
| tbr | they used the open source fork of qtopia, didn't they? opie2 or such? | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: and debian-> | 11:29 |
| chem|st | of course | 11:29 |
| chem|st | that is the starting base | 11:29 |
| tbr | and moblin | 11:29 |
| tbr | and | 11:29 |
| tbr | and | 11:29 |
| cityoflights2 | yet sailfish UI is based on QT as openmoko - right? | 11:29 |
| chem|st | lol | 11:29 |
| Stskeeps | openmoko was some E crap orginally wans't it | 11:29 |
| tbr | Qt is a technology | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | i forgot | 11:30 |
| tbr | Qt is one possible ingredient to cook a device soup | 11:30 |
| chem|st | cityoflights2: if you go that way KDE is based off of openmoko... | 11:30 |
| chem|st | ...not | 11:31 |
| cityoflights2 | again, I am just trying to understand how come so many engineers, which where aiming at the same goal, didn't "make it happen' | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | oh, you should see the fragmentation of mobile os'es.. | 11:32 |
| cityoflights2 | what was wrong in these two famous phones, that sailfish is doing right? | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | i did a talk on this at some point.. | 11:32 |
| j-doge | it takes so much more than just engineers | 11:32 |
| j-doge | you need to f.e. bring the correct engineers together | 11:32 |
| Stskeeps | https://archive.fosdem.org/2012/schedule/event/391/79_beyond.pdf | 11:33 |
| j-doge | and do all kinds of support stuff | 11:33 |
| cityoflights2 | and why is everyone discarding the work previously did? | 11:33 |
| *** wesbluemarine <wesbluemarine!~wesbluema@host21-52-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 11:33 | |
| *** wesbluemarine <wesbluemarine!~wesbluema@host21-52-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #jollamobile | 11:34 | |
| Kiranos | how easy is it to port tizen apps to sailfish? | 11:34 |
| Stskeeps | Kiranos: tizen has apps? | 11:34 |
| * Stskeeps runs | 11:34 | |
| Kiranos | heh dont know :) | 11:34 |
| phdeswer | cityoflights2: lots of reasons, it was badly done before, patents, no support, to heavy, too hard to adjust to new hw, ... | 11:35 |
| Kiranos | just read that its new mobile did well in the countries it was released in | 11:35 |
| *** japa-fi <japa-fi!~jani@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50dc54-11.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 11:37 | |
| cityoflights2 | "it was badly done before" - please explain | 11:37 |
| phdeswer | cityoflights2: you have never encountered badly written software that does not really do what it is supposed to do before? Those things happen in mobile too... | 11:38 |
| phdeswer | You can either waste time to fix it, or try again from scratch | 11:38 |
| cityoflights2 | I see that jolla did invent a plugin from the cellular audio to the pulse audio | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | not really, we built on nokia pulseaudio modules | 11:39 |
| cityoflights2 | this match should have ushered the cellular usage better then in the past | 11:39 |
| Stskeeps | which was open sourced in meego | 11:39 |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~Shinryuu@85-76-162-128-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 11:40 | |
| cityoflights2 | stskeeps. I like your presentation | 11:41 |
| cityoflights2 | should have gone to youe talk | 11:42 |
| cityoflights2 | your | 11:42 |
| chem|st | Kiranos: as tizen development (at least for the watch) is so painful I doubt it will start off faster than it took to bring it to the market... | 11:42 |
| Stskeeps | it was not very well attended or made in a good way, but it was very good prediciton | 11:42 |
| cityoflights2 | ok, and are we better now? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | a bit | 11:45 |
| cityoflights2 | now that jolla exist? | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | note ubuntu core for debian like stuff | 11:45 |
| Stskeeps | and their entry into iot | 11:45 |
| cityoflights2 | what is ubuntu core? | 11:46 |
| cityoflights2 | what is iot | 11:46 |
| cityoflights2 | IoT | 11:46 |
| cityoflights2 | o ok | 11:46 |
| *** HtheB <HtheB!57d3a04c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.211.160.76> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 11:49 | |
| *** FReaper-PC <FReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has joined #jollamobile | 11:49 | |
| *** spiiroin_ <spiiroin_!~spiiroin@2001:998:2a:dead:9857:a9fd:8c:449f> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 11:51 | |
| *** trt` <trt`!~trt@ip70-174-22-208.hr.hr.cox.net> has joined #jollamobile | 11:51 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-peegvdkvqsgtghdv> has joined #jollamobile | 11:53 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 11:53 | |
| *** MoritzJT <MoritzJT!~MoritzJT@89.204.139.211> has joined #jollamobile | 11:53 | |
| *** mkollaro <mkollaro!~mkollaro@91-145-85-115.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 11:53 | |
| *** MoritzJT <MoritzJT!~MoritzJT@89.204.139.211> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 11:55 | |
| *** spiiroin <spiiroin!~spiiroin@2001:998:2a:dead:781d:9bad:5f98:70db> has joined #jollamobile | 12:01 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 12:09 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 12:09 | |
| chem|st | Tofe: any results from your .path idea yet? | 12:11 |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@c-207-5.eduroam.liu.se> has joined #jollamobile | 12:12 | |
| chem|st | I doubt it works, aliendalvik.service does not get started for a while sometimes so the dealy of .path to trigger the service is sometimes huge, and you'd need to have it start within the 3ms of the end of bindmounting and starting chroot | 12:13 |
| *** inte_awa` <inte_awa`!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 12:20 | |
| *** bef0rd <bef0rd!~bef0rd@unaffiliated/beford> has joined #jollamobile | 12:21 | |
| *** inte_away <inte_away!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has joined #jollamobile | 12:23 | |
| *** bluboxthief <bluboxthief!~me@176.31.31.127> has joined #jollamobile | 12:28 | |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has joined #jollamobile | 12:34 | |
| *** bef0rd <bef0rd!~bef0rd@unaffiliated/beford> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 12:34 | |
| *** wesbluemarine_ <wesbluemarine_!~wesbluema@host44-202-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has joined #jollamobile | 12:34 | |
| *** wesbluemarine <wesbluemarine!~wesbluema@host21-52-dynamic.44-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 12:35 | |
| *** dazo_afk is now known as dazo | 12:38 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: no, didn't really have time to test it; anyway I doubt it will work fine, as it will either start the service after the current one is finished, or start it in a separate process (--> incertain result ) | 12:39 |
| Tofe | uncertain* | 12:39 |
| chem|st | yes, that is what I would guess | 12:43 |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-suzczwvyxrununtu> has joined #jollamobile | 12:43 | |
| *** korsakov <korsakov!~korsakov@unaffiliated/korsakov> has joined #jollamobile | 12:46 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@c-207-5.eduroam.liu.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Bouncers suck.) | 12:49 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: one thing I have not yet understood: why not mounting to *both* /data/media and /opt/alien/data/media? | 12:50 |
| Tofe | (after alien.sh has finished his job, of course) | 12:51 |
| Tofe | We certainly could overload aliendalvik.service so that it is not seen as finished as long as our mounts are done | 12:52 |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-suzczwvyxrununtu> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 12:52 | |
| *** ndvl <ndvl!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 12:52 | |
| chem|st | Tofe: if you mount to opt before the script opts you loose that mount | 12:53 |
| *** ndvl <ndvl!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has joined #jollamobile | 12:54 | |
| Tofe | chem|st: yes, but after alien.sh has finished, we're good | 12:54 |
| chem|st | nope after alien.sh is finished the folders get fused | 12:54 |
| *** bluboxthief <bluboxthief!~me@176.31.31.127> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 12:54 | |
| chem|st | there is no way to know when that gap in between is as it is not split into services but one script calling another | 12:55 |
| Tofe | ah wait, maybe I just switched alien.sh and start_alien.sh, I wanted to talk about the one doing the whole job | 12:56 |
| chem|st | and as the one script does not exit until the other script is ran through you cannot even know when it will start | 12:56 |
| Tofe | I don't want to insert it in-between the scripts, I would like to try to mount to both / and optified pathes after it's opt'ed and fused | 12:57 |
| chem|st | the fuseing happens somewhere within dalvik as the starter only checks if fuse-control is alive | 12:58 |
| Tofe | ah ! ok, that's the piece I didn't understand. f*ck. | 12:58 |
| chem|st | Tofe: and that is the problem, you cannot mount to the opt after it is opted as it will already be fused | 12:58 |
| *** lildeimos <lildeimos!~MBavagnol@host88-15-dynamic.24-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 12:59 | |
| chem|st | so either you put /data on the uSD completely or you change the bind to rbind | 12:59 |
| Tofe | I understand better now | 13:00 |
| chem|st | and as I do not want /data to be on the uSD I alter alien.sh | 13:00 |
| Tofe | yep | 13:00 |
| *** bluboxthief <bluboxthief!~me@80.169.158.34> has joined #jollamobile | 13:00 | |
| chem|st | there are already people complaining that /data/media is slow on their uSD, imagine we make them have the whole /data on uSD and even starting apps gets slower and slower.... | 13:01 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-peegvdkvqsgtghdv> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 13:01 | |
| Tofe | yes, I don't want that either, I'd like to find an elegant and non-intrusive solution, like before | 13:02 |
| chem|st | you actually want to have the preset folders of the new /data/media synced to your 1.1.1 android subvolume too | 13:03 |
| chem|st | but I could not be bothered less^^ | 13:03 |
| Tofe | :) | 13:03 |
| chem|st | we wont have the luck of non intrusive for now, if you want completely non-intrusive you need to wait for dalvik to be started and ten you stop all connected services, data-media.mount(or androidsdcard.service), aliendalvik.path and aliendalvik.service and you be good too | 13:05 |
| chem|st | there is no 3rd option I know of | 13:05 |
| chem|st | and as I am fine with altering the bind mounts... I go the less annoying way, as it is altering 8 characters in a file instead of a new service file | 13:06 |
| *** hge <hge!~hge@2001:2060:53:beef:58b9:b095:b815:ed8e> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 13:09 | |
| *** inte_away <inte_away!~inte@unaffiliated/-inte-/x-2391039> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 13:09 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.122> has joined #jollamobile | 13:14 | |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aael148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #jollamobile | 13:16 | |
| *** anandrkris <anandrkris!~anand@182.65.14.5> has joined #jollamobile | 13:17 | |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-bxaseqtndjhnmhmk> has joined #jollamobile | 13:18 | |
| *** Warnaud <Warnaud!~patatra@92.61.78.83.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 13:19 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 13:20 | |
| *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 13:20 | |
| *** jmlich <jmlich!jmlich@nat/redhat/x-uoxahlrmvvriahsm> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 13:21 | |
| *** crazy_imp <crazy_imp!~mj@unaffiliated/crazy-imp/x-8704303> has joined #jollamobile | 13:22 | |
| *** Warnaud <Warnaud!~patatra@92.61.78.83.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #jollamobile | 13:22 | |
| *** judu <judu!~judu@195-154-85-146.rev.poneytelecom.eu> has joined #jollamobile | 13:27 | |
| judu | Hi, is there a "Jolla phone shop code for combo perk" sending coming soon ? :D I'm growing impatient :p | 13:28 |
| Stskeeps | contact care perhaps | 13:29 |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has joined #jollamobile | 13:30 | |
| *** jmlich <jmlich!jmlich@nat/redhat/x-ormzbugananuisda> has joined #jollamobile | 13:30 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 13:31 | |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 13:33 | |
| *** wesbluemarine_ <wesbluemarine_!~wesbluema@host44-202-dynamic.3-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 13:33 | |
| *** radekp <radekp!~radek@82.113.39.213> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 13:34 | |
| *** anandrkris <anandrkris!~anand@182.65.14.5> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 13:36 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 13:41 | |
| Stskeeps | https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-hardware-adaptation-video-update/ | 13:48 |
| Yaniel | nice read | 13:48 |
| locusf | cool | 13:49 |
| SfietKonstantinW | thanks Stskeeps | 13:49 |
| *** japa-fi <japa-fi!~jani@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50dc54-11.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 13:50 | |
| Stskeeps | hopefully more amazing videos from mwc | 13:50 |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aael148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 13:51 | |
| Yaniel | Stskeeps: IMHO you should link that to indiegogo as well if you haven't already | 13:52 |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.122> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte) | 13:54 | |
| ShawnMcCool | ordered a phone off the store 2 days ago.. no details about when i might get it. take a while? | 13:54 |
| *** japa-fi <japa-fi!~jani@dsl-hkibrasgw4-50dc54-11.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 13:54 | |
| Ezko | what does it say? | 13:54 |
| Ezko | in the store | 13:54 |
| Ezko | i ordered mine on a saturday, i think it shipped on wednesday | 13:54 |
| ShawnMcCool | ah cool | 13:55 |
| politie | i ordered on a saturday shipped thursday, delivered wensday | 13:55 |
| *** trt` <trt`!~trt@ip70-174-22-208.hr.hr.cox.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 13:55 | |
| jaacoppi | took me 8 days | 13:56 |
| politie | fedex took the liberty to leave it lying around for 2 days straight | 13:56 |
| ShawnMcCool | plenty fine by me, i'm just used to being sent more information so i wasn't sure if it was like.. a lenovo process that takes 3 weeks | 13:56 |
| jaacoppi | yeah, having to wait is not nice | 13:57 |
| ShawnMcCool | doesn't help that i ordered the phone because my nexus is barely hanging on ^_^ but, i'm not complaining, just looking for information. so thanks all | 13:57 |
| politie | expect a message with tracking code tomorrow or something | 13:58 |
| *** trt` <trt`!~trt@ip70-174-22-208.hr.hr.cox.net> has joined #jollamobile | 13:58 | |
| *** hge <hge!~hge@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c0f8-118.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 13:58 | |
| jaacoppi | expect it any day now but don't be sad if it doesn't happen until next week | 13:59 |
| Ezko | mine basically moved from one end of the city i live in to the other | 13:59 |
| Ezko | so i got it in 1 day :P | 13:59 |
| *** SfietKonstantinW <SfietKonstantinW!c2623324@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.98.51.36> has quit IRC (Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client) | 14:00 | |
| Ezko | i think they handed it to the finnish post from the big dhl facility by the airport and then transported it to my local post office :P | 14:01 |
| *** SfietKonstantinW <SfietKonstantinW!c2623324@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.194.98.51.36> has joined #jollamobile | 14:01 | |
| *** jpetrell <jpetrell!~jpetrell@dsl-trebrasgw1-58c1f2-137.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 14:06 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 14:09 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 14:10 | |
| Morgawr | I just got my jolla phone, it's awesome, cheers | 14:10 |
| Stskeeps | excellent | 14:11 |
| Stskeeps | make sure to upgrade immediately to latest version and re-run the tutorial | 14:11 |
| Morgawr | Yes, I will, thanks | 14:11 |
| Nicd- | yeah, don't do anything before upgrading, except add your jolla account | 14:11 |
| Morgawr | I did that and enabled developer mode, upgrading now | 14:12 |
| Nicd- | though dunno what version of the OS new phones get | 14:12 |
| Nicd- | but it's usually best to upgrade first without doing anything else | 14:12 |
| Morgawr | I really like the whole interface and gestures, the keyboard is also very responsive | 14:12 |
| *** protem <protem!~protem@unaffiliated/protem> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 14:16 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-fgenmswecqbtrsnq> has joined #jollamobile | 14:17 | |
| *** eijk_ <eijk_!~eijk@e178199114.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 14:24 | |
| *** jpetrell <jpetrell!~jpetrell@2001:998:2a:dead:1cf6:f5eb:fa95:ad34> has joined #jollamobile | 14:24 | |
| *** spiiroin <spiiroin!~spiiroin@2001:998:2a:dead:781d:9bad:5f98:70db> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 14:25 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) | 14:27 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199091.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 14:27 | |
| *** alien_ <alien_!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 14:30 | |
| *** calderon_ is now known as Calderon | 14:33 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-fgenmswecqbtrsnq> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 14:33 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 14:34 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 14:35 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #jollamobile | 14:36 | |
| Morgawr | Yay, updated and the phone is now bricked on reboot loop :P I found how to fix it by telnetting into recovery mode but it'll have to wait until I get home | 14:39 |
| *** arcean <arcean!~arcean@aael148.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl> has joined #jollamobile | 14:40 | |
| tadzik | I wonder what drives people who name apps after the technology they're using | 14:41 |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: just factory reset, nothing else, upgrade immediately | 14:41 |
| tadzik | I guess it does matter to some gentoo users, who won't install anything that has a name starting with a K so they don't have to compile kdelibs, but why name sailfish apps qmlSomething? | 14:42 |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@c-207-5.eduroam.liu.se> has joined #jollamobile | 14:44 | |
| cityoflights2 | stskeeps: was there a video of that fosdem 2012 meeting you sent me the pdf for? | 14:45 |
| Stskeeps | no, the video crew screwed up afaik | 14:45 |
| *** appelgriebsch <appelgriebsch!~appelgrie@p5489495B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 14:46 | |
| *** FiSHBoY <FiSHBoY!~fishboy@pool-108-31-241-212.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has joined #jollamobile | 14:47 | |
| Morgawr | Stskeeps: I can't find a way to factory reset it without being in the device | 14:48 |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-internet-5d6a9b-168.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 14:48 | |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: telnet should have it | 14:48 |
| Stskeeps | over recovery | 14:49 |
| Morgawr | Ah okay, yeah I need to telnet sure | 14:49 |
| Stskeeps | this was for after that | 14:49 |
| Morgawr | so I'll have to wait until I get home | 14:49 |
| Morgawr | I thought there was some magical key combo to reset it but okay, no big deal | 14:49 |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.32> has joined #jollamobile | 14:55 | |
| *** Pilke <Pilke!~Pilke@37-33-248-110.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 14:56 | |
| *** appelgriebsch <appelgriebsch!~appelgrie@p5489495B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 15:00 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.32> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 15:01 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-zchjfbqzdomznrhm> has joined #jollamobile | 15:09 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.94> has joined #jollamobile | 15:14 | |
| *** gabriel9 <gabriel9!~bojan@fasecuremail.com> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 15:16 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 15:16 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@c-207-5.eduroam.liu.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Bouncers suck.) | 15:20 | |
| *** alexxy <alexxy!~alexxy@gentoo/developer/alexxy> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 15:21 | |
| cityoflights2 | what is the common way to add music to my jolla? | 15:23 |
| tadzik | I usually copy it over sshfs | 15:24 |
| *** ndvl <ndvl!~james@29.169.broadband10.iol.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 15:24 | |
| flux | I should be able to lock my phone with double-powerbutton-click if I have a security code configured, right? even if automatic lock is not in use? | 15:25 |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 15:25 | |
| flux | I mean code-lock | 15:25 |
| *** alexxy <alexxy!~alexxy@gentoo/developer/alexxy> has joined #jollamobile | 15:26 | |
| tadzik | last time I checked there was a bug that you could not | 15:26 |
| tadzik | I either reported it or upvoted on TJC | 15:26 |
| flux | I think it _used_ to work for me, but now it doesn't | 15:26 |
| tadzik | oh, here https://together.jolla.com/question/72646/double-click-to-lock-doesnt-work-when-automatic-locking-is-not-in-use/ | 15:26 |
| tadzik | please upvote :) | 15:26 |
| flux | maybe I had automatic locking enabled that time | 15:26 |
| flux | tadzik, I only have one upvote :( | 15:28 |
| tadzik | :( | 15:29 |
| *** korsakov <korsakov!~korsakov@unaffiliated/korsakov> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 15:29 | |
| tadzik | if you comment on it it will be sent back to front page, and maybe someone else will see it :) | 15:30 |
| *** BlackBox__ <BlackBox__!~FR@115.135.60.174> has joined #jollamobile | 15:30 | |
| *** cristi <cristi!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has joined #jollamobile | 15:31 | |
| *** appelgriebsch <appelgriebsch!~appelgrie@p5489495B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…) | 15:31 | |
| *** FReaper-PC <FReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 15:32 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-zchjfbqzdomznrhm> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 15:32 | |
| flux | I see, tactics is involved.. | 15:32 |
| tadzik | ya | 15:33 |
| tadzik | if we knew traffic timelines of TJC we could exploit it further | 15:33 |
| *** bluboxthief <bluboxthief!~me@80.169.158.34> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 15:34 | |
| tadzik | orelse if someone from Jolla looked through all 'bug' tagged questions... ;P | 15:34 |
| tadzik | (hint hint) | 15:34 |
| *** kjokinie <kjokinie!~kjokinie@217.69.216.110> has joined #jollamobile | 15:34 | |
| *** appelgriebsch <appelgriebsch!~appelgrie@p5489495B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 15:35 | |
| *** appelgriebsch <appelgriebsch!~appelgrie@p5489495B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 15:37 | |
| *** joered <joered!~pingus@93-58-161-247.ip159.fastwebnet.it> has joined #jollamobile | 15:38 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #jollamobile | 15:39 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.94> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 15:47 | |
| *** martyone_ <martyone_!~martyone@193.179.215.102> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 15:47 | |
| *** BlackBox__ <BlackBox__!~FR@115.135.60.174> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 15:52 | |
| *** ahjolinna <ahjolinna!~netrunner@91-158-117-42.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 15:53 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has joined #jollamobile | 15:53 | |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 15:56 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.42> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 15:58 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.70> has joined #jollamobile | 15:59 | |
| *** friese <friese!~anonfries@p5481983F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 16:00 | |
| *** FlameReaper-PC <FlameReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 16:06 | |
| *** FReaper-PC <FReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has joined #jollamobile | 16:07 | |
| *** PeperJohnny <PeperJohnny!~johnny@dslb-092-077-024-211.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #jollamobile | 16:12 | |
| *** korsakov <korsakov!~korsakov@unaffiliated/korsakov> has joined #jollamobile | 16:14 | |
| *** cityoflights2 <cityoflights2!~nivw@bzq-218-29-26.cablep.bezeqint.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 16:16 | |
| *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 16:19 | |
| *** Sailor11736 <Sailor11736!~sailfish@mobile-internet-5d6a9b-168.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 16:20 | |
| *** jmlich <jmlich!jmlich@nat/redhat/x-ormzbugananuisda> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 16:20 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-luieuurrowqkmfwf> has joined #jollamobile | 16:23 | |
| *** joered <joered!~pingus@93-58-161-247.ip159.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 16:23 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 16:23 | |
| *** ahjolinna <ahjolinna!~netrunner@91-158-117-42.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 16:26 | |
| *** ahjolinna <ahjolinna!~netrunner@91-158-117-42.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 16:26 | |
| *** cristi <cristi!~majeru@131.228.216.128> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 272 seconds) | 16:31 | |
| *** mjr <mjr!mjr@shadow.rauhala.org> has joined #jollamobile | 16:35 | |
| *** s5pik3 <s5pik3!~Spike@163.5.121.70> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte) | 16:36 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-luieuurrowqkmfwf> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 16:37 | |
| *** jjanvier__ <jjanvier__!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 16:38 | |
| *** jjanvier__ <jjanvier__!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 16:39 | |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 16:39 | |
| *** jjanvier_ <jjanvier_!~jjanvier@glo44-2-82-224-115-167.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 16:42 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@natr.physik.hu-berlin.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 16:47 | |
| *** kjokinie <kjokinie!~kjokinie@217.69.216.110> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 16:48 | |
| *** tanty is now known as tanty_off | 16:51 | |
| *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #jollamobile | 16:52 | |
| cryorat | /part | 17:01 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 17:09 | |
| *** joered <joered!~pingus@93-58-161-247.ip159.fastwebnet.it> has joined #jollamobile | 17:19 | |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has joined #jollamobile | 17:21 | |
| *** PeperJohnny <PeperJohnny!~johnny@dslb-092-077-024-211.092.077.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 17:21 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-fofbcysxypzpxccn> has joined #jollamobile | 17:23 | |
| *** ndvl <ndvl!~james@leto.fsv.cuni.cz> has joined #jollamobile | 17:24 | |
| *** blabber <blabber!~tobi@pD9E507C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 17:25 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #jollamobile | 17:32 | |
| *** fredrin <fredrin!~expology@cm-84.215.171.162.getinternet.no> has quit IRC (Quit: reboot kernel update, gah,) | 17:35 | |
| *** cb400f <cb400f!~cb400f@opensuse/member/Cb400f> has joined #jollamobile | 17:37 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-23-131-70.as13285.net> has joined #jollamobile | 17:38 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 17:43 | |
| *** _al_ <_al_!~antti@85-76-129-69-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 17:43 | |
| *** Blizzz <Blizzz!~blizzz@ubuntu/member/blizzz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 17:43 | |
| *** nomeata <nomeata!~jojo@nomeata.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Client exiting) | 17:50 | |
| *** trigpoint <trigpoint!~phil@82-69-104-40.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk> has joined #jollamobile | 17:56 | |
| trigpoint | ll | 17:56 |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~plfiorini@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #jollamobile | 17:57 | |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has joined #jollamobile | 17:58 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-1-52-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 18:00 | |
| *** tonyoy <tonyoy!~ay@134.117.39.62.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Ex-Chat) | 18:06 | |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~plfiorini@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 18:07 | |
| *** phdeswer_ <phdeswer_!~phdeswer@91-159-55-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 18:07 | |
| *** protem <protem!~protem@unaffiliated/protem> has joined #jollamobile | 18:09 | |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~communi@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #jollamobile | 18:09 | |
| *** qqK <qqK!~qqK@h-72-191.a163.priv.bahnhof.se> has joined #jollamobile | 18:10 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 18:12 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 18:12 | |
| *** BlackBox__ <BlackBox__!~FR@115.135.60.174> has joined #jollamobile | 18:14 | |
| *** FReaper-PC <FReaper-PC!~FR@115.135.60.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 18:17 | |
| *** phdeswer_ <phdeswer_!~phdeswer@91-159-55-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 256 seconds) | 18:19 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-1-52-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: hui) | 18:20 | |
| *** jua_ <jua_!~orange@xdsl-89-0-242-15.netcologne.de> has joined #jollamobile | 18:22 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-1-52-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 18:22 | |
| *** nib <nib!~nib@213.160.158.74> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 18:23 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 18:23 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 18:27 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 18:27 | |
| friese | hei guys, any of you going to cebit? | 18:30 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-fofbcysxypzpxccn> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 18:33 | |
| *** hge <hge!~hge@dsl-hkibrasgw3-58c0f8-118.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 18:35 | |
| *** phdeswer_ <phdeswer_!~phdeswer@91-159-55-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 18:36 | |
| *** _al_ <_al_!~antti@85-76-33-204-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 18:38 | |
| ShawnMcCool | is there a known maximum microsd size for the jolla? | 18:39 |
| ShawnMcCool | i guess i could probably search that | 18:39 |
| *** emaj <emaj!emaj@nat/indt/x-bxaseqtndjhnmhmk> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 18:40 | |
| ShawnMcCool | 32 ok | 18:40 |
| friese | well mine works fine with 64 | 18:41 |
| attah | ^same here | 18:42 |
| ShawnMcCool | btrfs? | 18:42 |
| friese | jup | 18:42 |
| ShawnMcCool | ok, thanks for the heads up | 18:42 |
| ShawnMcCool | 64 is crazy (awesome) | 18:42 |
| friese | i'm not entirely sure, but i think someone also got 128gb... | 18:42 |
| friese | don't have a card that big unfortunately | 18:43 |
| ShawnMcCool | do you primarily use that for a music collection, photos, or anything specific? | 18:43 |
| attah | Music in FLAC, yes | 18:43 |
| *** Behold <Behold!~behold@unaffiliated/beholdmyglory> has joined #jollamobile | 18:44 | |
| friese | humm, sometimes i take a few movies with me, the rest is mostly music, photos and occasional replacement for flashdrives | 18:44 |
| ShawnMcCool | movies for watching while being plugged into power, or for transferring to another device? | 18:45 |
| *** cityoflights2 <cityoflights2!~nivw@bzq-218-29-26.cablep.bezeqint.net> has joined #jollamobile | 18:45 | |
| friese | sometimes even without power (if it's not hd it lasts surprisingly long) | 18:45 |
| cityoflights2 | hi, Which app provides video conferencing? | 18:45 |
| *** protem <protem!~protem@unaffiliated/protem> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 18:48 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-epebhziagtiwwoil> has joined #jollamobile | 18:51 | |
| *** cloanta <cloanta!~sailfish@2a02:a03f:1462:bf00:5256:a8ff:fe01:18f9> has joined #jollamobile | 18:55 | |
| *** Dag0b3rt` is now known as Dag0b3rt | 18:55 | |
| *** ndvl <ndvl!~james@leto.fsv.cuni.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 18:56 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 18:57 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-1-52-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 19:01 | |
| Morgawr | mmm | 19:07 |
| Morgawr | I'm trying to reset my phone from telnet | 19:07 |
| Morgawr | it says that the recovery image is too old and can't be recovered | 19:07 |
| *** AlmAck <AlmAck!~AlmAck@191.68.198.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has joined #jollamobile | 19:07 | |
| Morgawr | I've tried looking online but all the links point to a guide from the support website which does not exist :/ | 19:07 |
| Morgawr | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202208763 This one | 19:08 |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: can you show me the commands the recover offers you? | 19:08 |
| Morgawr | https://together.jolla.com/question/22079/howto-all-computer-users-recover-or-reset-a-device-that-is-stuck-in-boot-loop/ It's the same as this page | 19:09 |
| Morgawr | after I do telnet 10.42.66.66 | 19:09 |
| Morgawr | (I'm on linux) | 19:09 |
| *** jjanvier <jjanvier!~jjanvier@5-49-102-58.hfc.dyn.abo.bbox.fr> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 19:09 | |
| Stskeeps | am i to presume you're not in tampere or helsinki? | 19:10 |
| Morgawr | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/204709607-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode- mm... this article says I need an SD card to recover the phone... I don't have one lying around, argh | 19:10 |
| Morgawr | Stskeeps: I'm in ireland, no :P | 19:10 |
| Teemu | Stskeeps: do you have a beer-operated helpdesk for telnetting into phones? | 19:11 |
| Morgawr | mmm.. I guess I need a microSD card... I wonder if the tesco store close by has them | 19:12 |
| Morgawr | but yeah, seems like with that I can fix it, nevermind. I'll head to the closest store hoping it's still open and get an SD card and report back ^^ | 19:14 |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: going to check your case.. give me a moment | 19:15 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@2a01:4f8:190:3484:1::ffb7> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 19:15 | |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: how good are you with linux? | 19:16 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-epebhziagtiwwoil> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 19:16 | |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: because i think you can pull this off with netcat. | 19:16 |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: i can guide you through this in /msg, should be a safe method | 19:17 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:22 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-109-175-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 19:23 | |
| Yaniel | cityoflights2: I don't think there is one yet | 19:24 |
| *** phdeswer_ <phdeswer_!~phdeswer@91-159-55-220.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 19:25 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@dsl-espbrasgw1-50de2e-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 19:25 | |
| *** xkr47 <xkr47!xkr47@2001:14b8:141:5926:5358:9793:2384:6264> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 19:26 | |
| *** motalc <motalc!~motalb@37.136.53.226> has joined #jollamobile | 19:31 | |
| *** spider-mario <spider-mario!~spidermar@mtg95-10-78-219-27-149.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 19:33 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-109-175-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 19:36 | |
| *** M4rtinK <M4rtinK!~M4rtinK@ip-37-188-142-119.eurotel.cz> has joined #jollamobile | 19:36 | |
| Morgawr | Stskeeps: Heh, I'm pretty good with Linux (I'm an SRE), and I figured I could hack something with netcat or xxd or something like that but I always wanted to have an extra miroSD card for my jolla anyway | 19:37 |
| Morgawr | so yeah... I just got back and found a random store selling an 8GB card anyway :P | 19:37 |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 19:38 | |
| Teemu | what's sre? | 19:38 |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 19:39 | |
| Yaniel | site reliability engineer | 19:39 |
| Yaniel | basically sysadmin | 19:39 |
| Teemu | ah okay | 19:39 |
| Morgawr | not quite sysadmin but yeah :P | 19:39 |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@p5DDBA338.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:40 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-avpmjzzhgbzfuabt> has joined #jollamobile | 19:43 | |
| Stskeeps | Morgawr: ah, ok | 19:45 |
| *** ejjoman <ejjoman!~ejjoman@p54827D6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:48 | |
| Morgawr | alright, successfully reset it to factory settings, now to do the re-setup again, it seems to be working :) | 19:49 |
| Stskeeps | upgrade immediately, no developer mode | 19:52 |
| *** Nightmare__ <Nightmare__!~Nightmare@HSI-KBW-046-005-173-198.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:52 | |
| Stskeeps | make sure to log in with jolla account in startup wizard | 19:52 |
| Morgawr | yeah | 19:52 |
| *** Sail0r <Sail0r!~Sailor@ipbcc243dc.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving...) | 19:52 | |
| *** omicron23 <omicron23!~AndChat14@dslb-084-057-134-229.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has joined #jollamobile | 19:53 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-avpmjzzhgbzfuabt> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 19:53 | |
| *** omicron23 <omicron23!~AndChat14@dslb-084-057-134-229.084.057.pools.vodafone-ip.de> has quit IRC (Client Quit) | 19:55 | |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 19:56 | |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~communi@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 19:56 | |
| *** HtheB <HtheB!57d3a04c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.211.160.76> has joined #jollamobile | 19:58 | |
| *** plfiorini <plfiorini!~communi@net-93-71-167-190.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #jollamobile | 19:58 | |
| Yaniel | it's about time we got new recovery images | 20:02 |
| *** pdanek <pdanek!~orech@87-198-38-168.ptr.magnet.ie> has joined #jollamobile | 20:02 | |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 20:02 | |
| Morgawr | If I were a casual user I'd be a bit annoyed by the fact that the phone got bricked by an update and I could't recover :P | 20:04 |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 20:04 | |
| Yaniel | also umm | 20:05 |
| HtheB | Morgawr: it happened to me :) | 20:05 |
| HtheB | I dd'ed my phone | 20:05 |
| Yaniel | is it possible to have the screen use the full brightness range when automatic brightness adjusting is on? | 20:05 |
| HtheB | it was the ONLY option to make my phone alive again | 20:06 |
| Morgawr | HtheB: Awesome | 20:06 |
| Morgawr | I mean, I'm sorr | 20:06 |
| Morgawr | but it's awesome that the phone is so open that you can do that :) | 20:06 |
| Morgawr | I'm still amazed I can run a real terminal with a real OS and real programs on my phone | 20:06 |
| HtheB | Morgawr: Jolla isn't the most open phone... I hope you do realize that | 20:07 |
| Yaniel | what is btw? and let's limit it to actually usable as a phone phones | 20:08 |
| r0kk3rz | ubuntu probably | 20:08 |
| tadzik | the one that *will* come out? :) | 20:08 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah something like that | 20:09 |
| r0kk3rz | fxos is also a candidate | 20:09 |
| tadzik | actually usable as phone, eh? :P | 20:09 |
| Yaniel | I fail to see how it would be more open given that it works about the same way as sailfish, possibly woth a more open ui | 20:09 |
| Yaniel | with libhybris etc | 20:09 |
| tadzik | well, I know people that used openmoko | 20:09 |
| tadzik | so there's that | 20:09 |
| HtheB | Android is more open.... | 20:10 |
| HtheB | sad, but it's true | 20:10 |
| tadzik | as an OS, yes | 20:10 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-yzmjahgbjqeoaxgi> has joined #jollamobile | 20:10 | |
| M4rtinK | I really hate it that I can't really argue with the "Sailfish OS is half closed proprietary shit" people | 20:10 |
| M4rtinK | because they are basically right | 20:10 |
| Morgawr | HtheB: Well it's definitely more open than my samsung galaxy :P | 20:10 |
| tadzik | well, I never said it's shit :) | 20:10 |
| HtheB | yeah | 20:10 |
| HtheB | Morgawr: Samsung is always open... | 20:11 |
| HtheB | they don't lock their bootloaders | 20:11 |
| r0kk3rz | half closed? not even 1/8th closed | 20:11 |
| Teemu | actually usable as phone, that someone has already bought and used and you could theoretically buy yourself should you want to? | 20:11 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: in that context, how's your component stuff so we can rewrite message ui and dialer? | 20:11 |
| Morgawr | if you want to run exploits and get root access and jump through hoops and uninstall all their crap that they install on your phone, sure it's very open | 20:11 |
| M4rtinK | and Firefox OS and Ubuntu touch *are* fully open as stuff they develop goes (not counting driver blobs) | 20:11 |
| Morgawr | so far my jolla seems a thousand times more open than whatever other samsung phone I've used | 20:11 |
| HtheB | Morgawr: That is not the true android | 20:11 |
| Morgawr | Well, I said samsung, not android | 20:11 |
| HtheB | you should know the difference between the Branded versions of android and true android | 20:11 |
| Morgawr | I do :) | 20:12 |
| HtheB | ok then :p | 20:12 |
| Yaniel | >exploits to get root access | 20:12 |
| Yaniel | there is no part about this that isn't wrong that | 20:12 |
| Yaniel | -that | 20:12 |
| M4rtinK | that the Firefox OS code especially and even the hacked together Ubuntu Touch code is almost useless is another thing | 20:12 |
| tadzik | well, that's about android distros | 20:12 |
| M4rtinK | also the behing closed doors Ubuntu devel | 20:12 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: however true android is losing development to proprietary google bits | 20:12 |
| HtheB | I still dont know why Jolla hasn't opened the sailfish launcher | 20:13 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: investors is my guess | 20:13 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: what exactly do you mean? | 20:13 |
| HtheB | (i meant the development part) | 20:13 |
| r0kk3rz | google is the main developer of AOSP, and they're dropping development on AOSP in favour of their own things | 20:13 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: progressing - I've cut down the last remaining dependencies on modRana (styles) last weekend | 20:13 |
| r0kk3rz | like chrome, hangouts .etc | 20:13 |
| HtheB | hmm | 20:14 |
| HtheB | we'll see what the future brings up | 20:14 |
| HtheB | us* | 20:14 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: but have not been able to get a usable Nemo VM running yet | 20:14 |
| HtheB | byt he way, you sure? investors? | 20:14 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: might try with my N950 this weekend, time permitting | 20:14 |
| HtheB | what does that has to do with not opening a launcher? | 20:14 |
| r0kk3rz | well jolla as a company is surviving on angel investors | 20:14 |
| tbr | M4rtinK: someone had a nemo vm build and put it on images. | 20:14 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: I tried with the Nemo guys last week | 20:15 |
| HtheB | I wish we had more launchers to pick from :) | 20:15 |
| tbr | http://images.devaamo.fi/nemo/vm/ ? | 20:15 |
| M4rtinK | tbr: got it running but it was ignoring mouse input | 20:15 |
| r0kk3rz | now, if you were an investor with lots of money, you'd want some kind of assurance that you would get some return on your investment | 20:15 |
| tbr | ah | 20:15 |
| r0kk3rz | having a fully open source product that someone can fork all your hard work away, doesnt sound like a particularly great investment | 20:16 |
| r0kk3rz | more philanthropy | 20:16 |
| M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: don't forget GPL | 20:16 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: depends on your business model | 20:16 |
| M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: also properly forking a distro/OS is not easy at all | 20:16 |
| M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: much cheaper to pay the authors to make the changes/support it for you | 20:16 |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-140-185-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 20:17 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-140-185-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 20:17 | |
| M4rtinK | also trademarks | 20:17 |
| r0kk3rz | whilst I agree, im sure that *some* investors would be put off by a fully open source everything | 20:17 |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-140-185-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 20:17 | |
| r0kk3rz | maybe not all, but I think thats part of it | 20:17 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: android is fully open | 20:18 |
| M4rtinK | any quite some contributors and users are put of by it being not fully open source | 20:18 |
| HtheB | how did they manage to get it to this stage? :) | 20:18 |
| M4rtinK | *and | 20:18 |
| HtheB | investors sounds BS to me | 20:18 |
| *** electrolux <electrolux!~Adium@62-78-217-43.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 20:18 | |
| tbr | you can also go down the poison pill route and play the GPLv3 game | 20:19 |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #jollamobile | 20:19 | |
| tbr | that's what canonical is doing with Ubuntu Touch | 20:19 |
| tbr | as a bonus, they own all relevant code and can relicense it under a commercial license AFAIU | 20:19 |
| M4rtinK | GPLv3 FTW! ;-) | 20:19 |
| HtheB | yeah | 20:20 |
| HtheB | so, what is Jolla using? | 20:20 |
| *** BitEvil <BitEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 20:20 | |
| *** SpeedEvil is now known as Guest220 | 20:20 | |
| tbr | proprietary license | 20:20 |
| Stskeeps | i think i'm just going to grab my bottle of bailey's and move backwards slowly from this conversation.. | 20:20 |
| *** Guest220 <Guest220!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 20:20 | |
| tbr | Stskeeps: yup, no way to win, only move is not to play | 20:21 |
| attah | oh.. i was just about to get popcorn :D | 20:21 |
| r0kk3rz | HtheB: BS it may be, because its pure speculation on my part | 20:21 |
| *** blabber <blabber!~tobi@pD9E507C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: leaving) | 20:21 | |
| * Stskeeps goes to sleep instead | 20:21 | |
| r0kk3rz | android only went anywhere because google picked it up | 20:21 |
| HtheB | :( | 20:22 |
| M4rtinK | lets just replace all closed Jolla stuff with Nemo and be done with it :) | 20:22 |
| M4rtinK | lof of wasted effort in the closed stuff but whatever :) | 20:22 |
| tbr | :) | 20:22 |
| HtheB | M4rtinK: there was a different launcher right? | 20:23 |
| HtheB | but, afaik, it's still experimental | 20:23 |
| M4rtinK | (working on a "normal" Linux distro really makes one considering anything other than a fully open flawed) | 20:23 |
| M4rtinK | HtheB: some sort of a Nemo launcher, yes | 20:24 |
| HtheB | yeah | 20:24 |
| r0kk3rz | i was thinking I could probably help do some UI work for Nemo | 20:24 |
| HtheB | hey what happened to Glacier? | 20:24 |
| tbr | r0kk3rz: do iiiiit! | 20:24 |
| HtheB | come to think of it | 20:24 |
| HtheB | it looked VERY great, but somehow, I never saw it alive | 20:24 |
| r0kk3rz | tbr: kinda hard to know where to start | 20:24 |
| M4rtinK | IIRc is should be more or less done ? | 20:25 |
| M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: #nemomobile :) | 20:25 |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-153-245.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 20:25 | |
| *** Dag0b3rt <Dag0b3rt!~Dag0b3rt@119-246-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 20:26 | |
| *** BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil | 20:26 | |
| attah | BTW.. i have the same issue with TJC visibility over and over again.. i wish there was a "seen by sailors and went to the bottom of the pile" just so i can move on | 20:26 |
| *** Dag0b3rt <Dag0b3rt!~Dag0b3rt@179-152-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de> has joined #jollamobile | 20:26 | |
| attah | specifically https://together.jolla.com/question/71883/percent-encoded-tel-links-broken-becomes-2/ this time | 20:26 |
| attah | it's *one* line, and i feel bad for bumping | 20:27 |
| M4rtinK | HtheB: I talked to qwazix on FOSDEM and he told me Glacier should be more or less be ready for use | 20:27 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 20:27 | |
| HtheB | he was at FOSDEM? | 20:27 |
| HtheB | hmm | 20:27 |
| HtheB | I really wish there was a Jolla stand at FOSDEM :/ | 20:27 |
| Cal-Drone | meow | 20:28 |
| M4rtinK | also there are some issues with the staled Mer & Nemo midleware merge | 20:28 |
| M4rtinK | yep | 20:28 |
| M4rtinK | from how I understand it until the merge is complete | 20:28 |
| M4rtinK | the Nemo project is also kinda stalled at least partially | 20:28 |
| HtheB | meow | 20:28 |
| M4rtinK | and only Jolla can complete it | 20:29 |
| M4rtinK | but it is taking longer than expected for some reason | 20:29 |
| HtheB | guys, I want to buy some screenprotectors for the Jolla | 20:29 |
| HtheB | I found 2 different brands, dont know if that matters though | 20:29 |
| HtheB | but, any idea which one looks better? | 20:29 |
| HtheB | EZguardz or Spartan Shieldz? | 20:29 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-yzmjahgbjqeoaxgi> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 20:29 | |
| r0kk3rz | ive used 3m vikuiti ones | 20:29 |
| attah | unpopular opinion: screen protectors are snake oil | 20:30 |
| Cal-Drone | ass, tits, meow | 20:30 |
| r0kk3rz | looked good, did the job | 20:30 |
| HtheB | http://www.ebay.com/itm/6X-EZguardz-NEW-Screen-Protector-Skin-Shield-HD-6X-For-Jolla-Jolla-Ultra-Clear-/331211181728 | 20:30 |
| HtheB | http://www.ebay.com/itm/6X-Spartan-Shields-Premium-HD-Screen-Protector-Skin-Cover-For-Jolla-Jolla-6X-/331211188598 | 20:30 |
| r0kk3rz | tbh i dont really like the feel of screen protectors, its easier to keep glass not feeling oily all the time | 20:31 |
| Cal-Drone | why do you even want those? | 20:31 |
| kimmoli | http://protectionfilms24.com/article/3x-vikuiti-screen-protector-dqct130-jolla-jolla-1509825.html | 20:31 |
| kimmoli | i'm happy with these | 20:31 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah thats what i got kimmoli | 20:32 |
| HtheB | Easily removable << is that good??? | 20:33 |
| HtheB | :D | 20:33 |
| kimmoli | should test ARMR220 next time, when summer and sun comes | 20:33 |
| kimmoli | my has been on for 7 months without problems | 20:33 |
| HtheB | ok, I'm going to try out those EZGuardz | 20:34 |
| HtheB | 6 protectors for 3$ | 20:34 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont understand why people get the cheapest screen protectors they can find | 20:35 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: why pay more? | 20:36 |
| r0kk3rz | why do you assume that you're getting the same product for less? | 20:36 |
| r0kk3rz | and not a lesser product for less | 20:36 |
| HtheB | as long as it protects from scratches, i'm fine with it | 20:36 |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 20:37 | |
| r0kk3rz | optical properties are also important, ive seen some ugly ugly screen protectors | 20:37 |
| HtheB | and expensive doesnt mean better | 20:37 |
| *** cloanta <cloanta!~sailfish@2a02:a03f:1462:bf00:5256:a8ff:fe01:18f9> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 20:37 | |
| r0kk3rz | and ease of application, seen too many phones with lots of bubbles | 20:38 |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 20:38 | |
| HtheB | i remember those very expensive V Shields | 20:38 |
| HtheB | Orange peel effect :/ | 20:38 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: that means they can't place a screenprotector on :P | 20:38 |
| HtheB | I placed a lot of screenprotectors on phones and tablets (when I worked at Vodafone) | 20:38 |
| r0kk3rz | those 3m ones are quite thick, and really easy to put on | 20:39 |
| r0kk3rz | the only way you can muck it up is by having things dirty, or being a complete retard | 20:39 |
| kimmoli | oneplusone protector had nice alignment stickers with it | 20:39 |
| HtheB | r0kk3rz: ill tell you once the protectors arrived | 20:40 |
| kimmoli | i hate my brother on this case, he just sticks the damn thing on the display. and then it is misaligned, full of big bubbles etc | 20:40 |
| r0kk3rz | i dont really care, ive given up with screen protectors | 20:40 |
| HtheB | i will even make a video if you like :P | 20:41 |
| HtheB | How I put on the screenprotector on Jolla xD | 20:41 |
| Teemu | kimmoli: i bet he didn't put the plastic cover on his schoolbooks by himself | 20:42 |
| kimmoli | iirc there was no cover on his books. he had 5 plastic-bags, one for each school-day | 20:42 |
| HtheB | Teemu: aarrgh, placing paper covers on schoolbooks.... brings back (bad) memories :D | 20:42 |
| *** M4rtinK <M4rtinK!~M4rtinK@ip-37-188-142-119.eurotel.cz> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 20:43 | |
| kimmoli | did that few months ago | 20:43 |
| Teemu | HtheB: we used self-gluing transparent plastic | 20:44 |
| Teemu | my mom used paper | 20:44 |
| Teemu | for hers i mean | 20:44 |
| HtheB | aha | 20:45 |
| Teemu | first few years she did mine and then i started applying it on my own | 20:45 |
| r0kk3rz | cut up game magazines and clear plastic | 20:45 |
| Teemu | the screen protectors are a lot easier to put on bubbleless | 20:45 |
| *** dazo is now known as dazo_afk | 20:45 | |
| r0kk3rz | for sure, less surface area too | 20:45 |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ktgqiqegjmncjqdl> has joined #jollamobile | 20:45 | |
| Teemu | the surface is also smoother and straighter and the film thicker | 20:46 |
| HtheB | the "screen protector" that the phone came didnt last long now :( | 20:48 |
| HtheB | i will give you guys a review on the "cheap" screen protectors :P | 20:49 |
| *** xkr47 <xkr47!xkr47@2001:14b8:141:5926:5358:9793:2384:6264> has joined #jollamobile | 20:54 | |
| *** Nightmare__ <Nightmare__!~Nightmare@HSI-KBW-046-005-173-198.hsi8.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC () | 20:55 | |
| Tegu | it will last longer if you cut the small part from which the cover is supposed to be taken off | 20:55 |
| *** cristi <cristi!~majeru@cable-86-56-95-36.cust.telecolumbus.net> has joined #jollamobile | 20:55 | |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 20:57 | |
| *** gogeta <gogeta!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has joined #jollamobile | 20:58 | |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-153-245.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 20:59 | |
| *** Plnt <Plnt!~someone@rhea.freble.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 21:06 | |
| *** attah <attah!~attah@h-176-10-249-228.na.cust.bahnhof.se> has quit IRC (Quit: BORK BORK BORK) | 21:07 | |
| Morgawr | Is it possible/viable to change the default username from 'nemo' to something else without breaking everything? | 21:10 |
| *** samikshan is now known as samikshan|afk | 21:10 | |
| Morgawr | not a big deal in any case, just wondering | 21:10 |
| *** samikshan|afk is now known as samikshan | 21:10 | |
| Stskeeps | not really possible | 21:10 |
| Morgawr | Alright, fair enough | 21:10 |
| *** jpetrell <jpetrell!~jpetrell@2001:998:2a:dead:1cf6:f5eb:fa95:ad34> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 21:10 | |
| HtheB | Tegu: no shit sherlock? :p | 21:12 |
| *** Plnt <Plnt!~someone@rhea.freble.net> has joined #jollamobile | 21:13 | |
| Stskeeps | meanwhile, http://crypto.stanford.edu/gyrophone/files/gyromic.pdf is my scary goodnight reading | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | Gyrophone: Recognizing Speech From Gyroscope Signals | 21:14 |
| *** Joonaa <Joonaa!Joona@87-92-214-167.bb.dnainternet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: So far, so good, so what!) | 21:16 | |
| HtheB | good night ^^ :D | 21:16 |
| *** M4rtinK <M4rtinK!~M4rtinK@mail.melf.eu> has joined #jollamobile | 21:18 | |
| *** friese <friese!~anonfries@p5481983F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 21:19 | |
| *** cvp_ <cvp_!~cvp@p5DDBA338.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Verlassend) | 21:20 | |
| *** Sequenced <Sequenced!~Sequenced@dsl-espbrasgw1-50de2e-133.dhcp.inet.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 21:22 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #jollamobile | 21:23 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-ktgqiqegjmncjqdl> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 240 seconds) | 21:25 | |
| *** cb400f <cb400f!~cb400f@opensuse/member/Cb400f> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 21:31 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin <SfietKonstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 21:35 | |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: i dont see how thats a major gain though | 21:35 |
| r0kk3rz | if you have access to the device, you have access to the mic | 21:35 |
| *** rZr <rZr!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has quit IRC (Excess Flood) | 21:37 | |
| *** RzR <RzR!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has joined #jollamobile | 21:39 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.42> has joined #jollamobile | 21:42 | |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-153-245.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 21:42 | |
| *** fredrin <fredrin!~expology@cm-84.215.171.162.getinternet.no> has joined #jollamobile | 21:42 | |
| *** gogeta is now known as dr_gogeta86 | 21:43 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@net-188-217-76-5.cust.vodafonedsl.it> has quit IRC (Changing host) | 21:43 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has joined #jollamobile | 21:43 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 is now known as gogeta86 | 21:43 | |
| *** gogeta86 is now known as gogeta | 21:43 | |
| *** gogeta is now known as dr_gogeta86 | 21:43 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 21:45 | |
| *** cristi <cristi!~majeru@cable-86-56-95-36.cust.telecolumbus.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 21:48 | |
| *** pdanek <pdanek!~orech@87-198-38-168.ptr.magnet.ie> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving.) | 21:51 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.42> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 21:52 | |
| *** sameo <sameo!~samuel@192.55.54.42> has joined #jollamobile | 21:52 | |
| Morgawr | does anybody know how I can change an ambience text color? I created an ambience with a picture and it works fine but I can't find a way to change the text color | 21:53 |
| ikarus | Morgawr: it's derived from the picture | 21:54 |
| Morgawr | ikarus: there a way to influence it? | 21:54 |
| ikarus | Morgawr: change the pixels it samples for it ? :) | 21:54 |
| ottulonen | Morgawr: it's coming in the update as far as I've understood, otherwise you can follow this: https://together.jolla.com/question/11783/how-to-fine-tune-ambiences-colors-used/?answer=12168#post-id-12168 | 21:55 |
| ikarus | there is some logic to it I remember | 21:55 |
| Morgawr | ottulonen: I don't have gconftool-2 on my phone, do I have to install something? | 21:55 |
| Morgawr | ikarus: Which ones? Do you have a reference I can look at? | 21:55 |
| ottulonen | sorry, that link wasn't quite enough, the link in that post is | 21:55 |
| ottulonen | Morgawr: not as far as I can remember | 21:57 |
| ottulonen | let me check if it still works just like that | 21:57 |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-37-49-88-185.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 22:01 | |
| *** mjones <mjones!~mjones@124-148-54-15.dyn.iinet.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 22:03 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 22:04 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-wplyulzudoyuhxqe> has joined #jollamobile | 22:04 | |
| Morgawr | mmm.. weird, I uploaded a picture to my Pictures directory and now the gallery app says "oops cannot display thumbnail", it does it with every .jpg or .png I put in the folder it seems | 22:06 |
| ottulonen | did you try clearing the tracker database? | 22:07 |
| *** beidl <beidl!~aneumayer@178-190-156-95.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #jollamobile | 22:08 | |
| ottulonen | in Settings>System>Utilities | 22:08 |
| Morgawr | alright that seems to have fixed it, thanks | 22:09 |
| r0kk3rz | one of these days, tracker will actually keep track of things | 22:09 |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-37-49-88-185.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 255 seconds) | 22:10 | |
| *** ortylp <ortylp!~ortylp@HSI-KBW-078-043-153-245.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 22:11 | |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-37-49-88-185.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has joined #jollamobile | 22:12 | |
| Morgawr | Still no luck with the font colors :( | 22:13 |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@159.175.24.109.rev.sfr.net> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 22:16 | |
| *** Porkepix <Porkepix!~Porkepix@159.175.24.109.rev.sfr.net> has joined #jollamobile | 22:16 | |
| *** tomcat_berlin <tomcat_berlin!~thomas@e179067241.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 22:17 | |
| ottulonen | Morgawr: yeah, seems like gconftool indeed is not used anymore - I'm browsing through the file system to locate the settings files :D | 22:18 |
| r0kk3rz | Morgawr: i would suggest waiting for the next update, which should be released proper soon | 22:18 |
| ottulonen | I found the default/TOH ambience files already, but not custom | 22:18 |
| r0kk3rz | then theres a menu for ambiance colours | 22:18 |
| *** FiSHBoY <FiSHBoY!~fishboy@pool-108-31-241-212.washdc.fios.verizon.net> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 22:20 | |
| Morgawr | r0kk3rz: I'm just playing around anyway, it's not a big deal but I'm stil interested into getting it to work :P | 22:22 |
| Morgawr | I'm looking forward to the update anyway | 22:22 |
| *** AlmAck <AlmAck!~AlmAck@191.68.198.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 22:22 | |
| r0kk3rz | its possible | 22:23 |
| r0kk3rz | theres a file somewhere with a hex encoded colour | 22:23 |
| r0kk3rz | i ended up just choosing an image with a decent derived colour | 22:24 |
| *** msava <msava!~mircea@nl112-156-14.student.uu.se> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 22:24 | |
| Morgawr | If only I could figure out how to make it derive a different color. I read a post saying you need 4 vertical pixels but I don't understand where or how... | 22:25 |
| Morgawr | http://reviewjolla.blogspot.ie/2014/02/howto-jolla-phone-ambience-text-color.html | 22:25 |
| Morgawr | And since I don't use windows nor PaintShopPro it's rather confusing | 22:26 |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~dr_gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has joined #jollamobile | 22:26 | |
| ottulonen | you can of course edit the image with whatever program you like, just make sure it's in the correct spot (I imagine that's why they said to use PSP - it is automatically in the middle) | 22:28 |
| *** msava <msava!~mircea@nl112-156-14.student.uu.se> has joined #jollamobile | 22:28 | |
| Morgawr | ottulonen: Yeah, I need to figure out where the spot is, though. | 22:29 |
| ottulonen | http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-r0nhr9hIjug/UwNbrLpTNxI/AAAAAAAACME/Mz2cBkBf0n0/s1600/Jolla+Energy+Saver+The+First+One+by+Review+Jolla.jpg | 22:29 |
| ottulonen | zoom in around the middle, there's a spot | 22:29 |
| Morgawr | Oh | 22:29 |
| Morgawr | I missed it, it was too small | 22:29 |
| Morgawr | I thought it'd be in the corner | 22:29 |
| Morgawr | thanks! | 22:29 |
| ottulonen | yup, one pixel only | 22:29 |
| ottulonen | yw | 22:30 |
| *** onurati <onurati!~onurati@HSI-KBW-37-49-88-185.hsi14.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 244 seconds) | 22:32 | |
| *** beidl <beidl!~aneumayer@178-190-156-95.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 250 seconds) | 22:33 | |
| *** mjones <mjones!~mjones@pa49-197-139-107.pa.qld.optusnet.com.au> has joined #jollamobile | 22:34 | |
| Morgawr | Doesn't seem to have worked | 22:34 |
| Morgawr | Yeah even using the example picture I always get "orange" color | 22:35 |
| Morgawr | must be somewhere else in the system | 22:37 |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has joined #jollamobile | 22:38 | |
| *** dr_gogeta86 <dr_gogeta86!~dr_gogeta@unaffiliated/dr-gogeta86/x-8885803> has quit IRC (Quit: IRC for Sailfish 0.9) | 22:43 | |
| *** Sfiet_Konstantin <Sfiet_Konstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has joined #jollamobile | 22:45 | |
| *** SfietKonstantin <SfietKonstantin!~sk@212-198-218-185.rev.numericable.fr> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 265 seconds) | 22:45 | |
| Morgawr | HA! I did it | 22:47 |
| Morgawr | I went into /usr/share/ambience and copied over the snowhite ambience directory | 22:47 |
| Morgawr | gave it a different name | 22:47 |
| Morgawr | moved my picture | 22:47 |
| Morgawr | and modified the settings and stuff | 22:48 |
| Morgawr | now I got my own ambience :D | 22:48 |
| Morgawr | also had to restart ambienced but that's ok | 22:48 |
| *** restless_being_ is now known as restless_being | 22:48 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-wplyulzudoyuhxqe> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) | 22:48 | |
| *** ahjolinna <ahjolinna!~netrunner@91-158-117-42.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 22:49 | |
| *** ahjolinna <ahjolinna!~netrunner@91-158-117-42.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 22:49 | |
| *** RzR <RzR!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has quit IRC (Excess Flood) | 22:51 | |
| *** RzR <RzR!~RzR@82.236.136.171> has joined #jollamobile | 22:53 | |
| *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-153-238-129.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: Leaving) | 22:55 | |
| *** varikonniemi <varikonniemi!~q@a91-153-238-129.elisa-laajakaista.fi> has joined #jollamobile | 22:56 | |
| *** r0kk3rz <r0kk3rz!~chatzilla@host-92-23-131-70.as13285.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 252 seconds) | 23:02 | |
| *** Pat_o <Pat_o!~pat@rob92-9-88-161-114-92.fbx.proxad.net> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 23:03 | |
| *** Marc1 <Marc1!Marc1@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-zvdkxryujmwexmnc> has joined #jollamobile | 23:06 | |
| *** beidl <beidl!~aneumayer@188-22-89-18.adsl.highway.telekom.at> has joined #jollamobile | 23:08 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199114.adsl.alicedsl.de> has joined #jollamobile | 23:12 | |
| *** pdanek <pdanek!~orech@87-198-38-168.ptr.magnet.ie> has joined #jollamobile | 23:12 | |
| pdanek | Hello citizens, | 23:13 |
| *** eijk_ <eijk_!~eijk@e178199114.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 23:13 | |
| pdanek | Is there a chance of Jolla 2 being announced on MWC? | 23:13 |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has quit IRC (Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.) | 23:19 | |
| HtheB | pdanek: no, it's just the tablet | 23:20 |
| *** SpeedEvil <SpeedEvil!~quassel@tor/regular/SpeedEvil> has joined #jollamobile | 23:20 | |
| pdanek | HtheB: :( | 23:22 |
| HtheB | pdanek: :( :( | 23:22 |
| *** BlackBox__ <BlackBox__!~FR@115.135.60.174> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) | 23:22 | |
| *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has quit IRC (Quit: Quitte) | 23:25 | |
| *** Nc_ <Nc_!~nc@91.177.12.159> has quit IRC (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) | 23:26 | |
| *** ced117 <ced117!~ced117@opensuse/member/ced117> has joined #jollamobile | 23:30 | |
| *** ejjoman <ejjoman!~ejjoman@p54827D6A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> has quit IRC (Quit: Konversation terminated!) | 23:31 | |
| *** eijk <eijk!~eijk@e178199114.adsl.alicedsl.de> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 23:35 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-58-165-85-102.qld.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Remote host closed the connection) | 23:38 | |
| *** joered <joered!~pingus@93-58-161-247.ip159.fastwebnet.it> has quit IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer) | 23:38 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-58-165-85-102.qld.bigpond.net.au> has joined #jollamobile | 23:39 | |
| *** Shinryuu <Shinryuu!~shn@85-76-140-185-nat.elisa-mobile.fi> has quit IRC (Quit: soft benis) | 23:41 | |
| *** blam_ <blam_!~blam@CPE-58-165-85-102.qld.bigpond.net.au> has quit IRC (Ping timeout: 246 seconds) | 23:43 | |
| *** M4rtinK <M4rtinK!~M4rtinK@mail.melf.eu> has quit IRC (Quit: Odcházím) | 23:44 | |
| *** FireFly <FireFly!~firefly@oftn/member/FireFly> has quit IRC (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0) | 23:53 | |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.17.1 by Marius Gedminas - find it at https://mg.pov.lt/irclog2html/!
