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| M4rtinK | so I like the LVM way better - for stuff like thin pools you have internally a metadata volume and a data volume | 00:00 |
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| kelvan | had similar problems with btrfs on my desktop system too a while ago, wasn't nice to fix :/ | 00:00 |
| M4rtinK | and you can monitor exhaustion of both separately & increase size if needed | 00:00 |
| chem|st | lvm, right... | 00:01 |
| chem|st | kelvan: should be fine yes | 00:01 |
| M4rtinK | lvm can accomplish most of what btrfs can do these days | 00:01 |
| kelvan | chem|st: yep, should ... same thing happend when installing last upgrade | 00:01 |
| M4rtinK | without eating your data in the process | 00:01 |
| fennekki | isn't lvm a partition management system moreso than a partition | 00:02 |
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| M4rtinK | fennekki: sure, it works on the block layer more or less | 00:02 |
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| chem|st | fennekki: works like btrfs subvolumes, also across physical volumes | 00:02 |
| M4rtinK | fennekki: you still need to put a filesystem on top of it | 00:02 |
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| chem|st | M4rtinK: and that is in our case a shortcoming | 00:03 |
| M4rtinK | but with LVM thin pool & filesystem with discard support, you can get similar snapshot capabilities btrfs has | 00:04 |
| chem|st | also performance on emmc is an issue iirc | 00:04 |
| M4rtinK | well, no idea how that would be performance wise | 00:04 |
| M4rtinK | but LVM & EXT4/XFS is generally very fast | 00:05 |
| chem|st | with 16GB ram zfs is very fast too^^ | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | does btrfs has some flash/emmc optimizations ? | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | isn't 8 GB of ram the minimum for ZFS ? :) | 00:05 |
| M4rtinK | I remember reading that somewhere :) | 00:06 |
| chem|st | seemingly it is the perfect fs for non-rotating devices | 00:06 |
| chem|st | you can have zfs with 4gb of ram but that is a pita... | 00:06 |
| M4rtinK | well, it btrfs is perfect in almost every aspect - on paper :P | 00:06 |
| kelvan | chem|st: removing a few hundred MB of data does not make any difference, not sure what fills up all the space | 00:06 |
| chem|st | if you want really fast performance you have a 64GB pcie ssd with 32GB RAM and zfs... | 00:07 |
| chem|st | kelvan: how do you recognize that you are out of space? | 00:08 |
| chem|st | you got 2GB left so something is odd | 00:09 |
| chem|st | doe we have a root-byte? | 00:09 |
| kelvan | basicly everthing shouting no space left on device to me | 00:09 |
| chem|st | ehrm so you are completely unable to write to the FS? | 00:09 |
| chem|st | but you may delete stuff? | 00:10 |
| kelvan | i can create files | 00:10 |
| chem|st | ok | 00:10 |
| chem|st | can you create files with some mb? | 00:10 |
| chem|st | could be that the FS-tables work but you cannot assign blocks | 00:11 |
| chem|st | don't know if they are cached or flushed directly | 00:11 |
| kelvan | creating 10mb worked | 00:11 |
| chem|st | ok | 00:11 |
| chem|st | why is your device full anyway... | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | I had similar symptoms | 00:12 |
| M4rtinK | I could do touch blah | 00:12 |
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| M4rtinK | even create small files | 00:12 |
| chem|st | I had the same symptoms with 8GB free and the next day the whole system got stuck... | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | but rsyncing ~100 files made about 50% of the transfers fail | 00:13 |
| kelvan | just dd 100M of zero | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | also could not take pictures with the camera sometimes | 00:13 |
| kelvan | whats an easy way to create many small files | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | only tracked it down to space exhaustion much later | 00:13 |
| M4rtinK | copy the Silica sources somewhere :D | 00:14 |
| chem|st | git clone firefox | 00:14 |
| M4rtinK | or that | 00:14 |
| kelvan | tried to copy old vcard folder | 00:14 |
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| kelvan | no space left on the first one | 00:15 |
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| chem|st | iirc it is svn but still | 00:15 |
| kelvan | removed the bigger test files | 00:15 |
| chem|st | kelvan: we do not get anywhere... what did you put 6GB files to? | 00:15 |
| chem|st | kelvan: do you have an sdcard? | 00:16 |
| kelvan | yes | 00:16 |
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| chem|st | are those 6gb maptiles? | 00:16 |
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| chem|st | mp3 and pictures you can just store in normal folders on the sdcard... android stuff gets tricky | 00:17 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: indeed | 00:17 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: I have about everything on SD card but OsmAnd insisted on storing 3GB of map data in internal storage... | 00:18 |
| kelvan | where are the maptiles stored? | 00:18 |
| chem|st | if you are familiar with shell you may follow my guide to share your sdcard with android and get all those bloat stuff off your device | 00:18 |
| M4rtinK | kelvan: which ones ? | 00:18 |
| kelvan | ok i have asmand installed | 00:19 |
| kelvan | and maep | 00:19 |
| chem|st | M4rtinK: you too... use the power of btrfs^^ | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Gotchas :) | 00:19 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: nice stuff :) | 00:20 |
| kelvan | so there is a 16gb flash in the device but everything goes boom if it is used? | 00:20 |
| chem|st | ok insane people... why would I run btrfs on a server? | 00:21 |
| chem|st | kelvan: no, it goes boom if filled up just like any other system | 00:21 |
| M4rtinK | I would argue the btrfs kind of "boom" is rather more chaotic than more traditional filesystems :) | 00:23 |
| chem|st | have you tried android 4.x on a 4GB device ever? it is usable for about a day, sometimes even a week but the caches fill up and _boom_ | 00:23 |
| kelvan | define "filled up" thre is more than 2GB space left | 00:23 |
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| kelvan | more like run out of inode foo | 00:24 |
| louisdk | How much does an LCD repair for the Jolla Phone cost. A fr | 00:24 |
| chem|st | kelvan: that is something I do not understand - as I thought the metadata is for all subvolumes of that device but it reads like those 4 subvolumes have each 500MB | 00:25 |
| M4rtinK | apparently even a LVM thin pool behaves in interesting ways once it fills up - but you can actually fill it up, unlike btrfs :) | 00:25 |
| louisdk | *A frien of mine dropped his Jolla. | 00:25 |
| chem|st | louisdk: there is a thread about repaircosts on tjc | 00:25 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: my simplified theory is that at start there is a single 500 MB metadata chunk and a single 1 GB data chunk | 00:26 |
| kelvan | yeah btrfs df isn't really helpful, it just prints some fantasy numbers | 00:26 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: so when you say copy 6 GB of big files, btrfs will allocate more and more data blocks until no unallocated space is left | 00:27 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: then when you delete the big data files, it does not dealocate the data blocks back (there might still be some pieces of "live" data ?) | 00:27 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: and then when you copy in/create during usage many small files, the initial 500 MB available for metadata fill up | 00:28 |
| chem|st | ehrm no | 00:29 |
| M4rtinK | chem|st: and there is nowhere to allocate another metadata chunk and btrfs goes "boom" | 00:29 |
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| chem|st | it might be related to that version that fragmentation + metadatachunks make boom but I doubt it | 00:29 |
| M4rtinK | sure, it might be more complicated | 00:30 |
| chem|st | it sounds like subvolumes have their own metadatachunk | 00:30 |
| kelvan | is there any other filesystem where something like this is possible? "rm: cannot remove `.local/share/maep/OpenCycleMap/12/2234/1420.png': No space left on device" | 00:30 |
| chem|st | so 4 volumes have each 500MB | 00:30 |
| M4rtinK | any idea how big is the chunk size on Jolla ? | 00:30 |
| chem|st | where two of those volumes do not need that size of chunks | 00:30 |
| M4rtinK | the default (IIRC) 500 MB meta & 1 GB data ? | 00:30 |
| kelvan | well removing files crashes lipstick | 00:31 |
| chem|st | they started accidentially with 1GB iirc | 00:31 |
| M4rtinK | uh | 00:31 |
| M4rtinK | not wise on 16 GB total | 00:31 |
| M4rtinK | especially if subvolumes have one each | 00:31 |
| chem|st | 500MB should be fine for the whole partition | 00:32 |
| chem|st | I don't think subvolumes should have one... | 00:32 |
| M4rtinK | it also depends what all counts to metadata | 00:32 |
| chem|st | just from the numbers adding up it sounds like 2.5GB 4subvolumes + 1 main | 00:33 |
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| chem|st | let me get my device together before I go to bed and I will check som things on mine | 00:33 |
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| chem|st | I think it might be that no data chunks are left to allocate | 00:42 |
| chem|st | and the massive amount of small files allocates more real bytes than bytes shown | 00:43 |
| chem|st | M4rtinK: kelvan both of you would do good using your sdcard for your android stuff - how-to is on tjc | 00:44 |
| chem|st | and again I feel that it was a good idea to upgrade the tab to 64gb | 00:45 |
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| M4rtinK | you can never have enough storage :) | 01:01 |
| M4rtinK | well, I'm not using that much of the Android stuff | 01:01 |
| M4rtinK | OsmAnd was the only one consuming significant amount of space | 01:02 |
| M4rtinK | and I've since then cleared it after FOSDEM (used is as a backup to modRana on N900 for navigation around Brussels) | 01:03 |
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| Nickleu | i kinda like this bug lol | 03:09 |
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| Tegu | humm, for some reason jolla fdoes not show contact name in the sms list if the phone number contains only characters | 10:06 |
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| Nicd- | what kind of a phone number is that? | 10:07 |
| Tegu | that's what I wondered as well. but googling shows that it actually is possible | 10:08 |
| Tegu | it sends some ads | 10:08 |
| flux | some services send me such messages at times | 10:08 |
| ln- | yes, the sender of sms doesn't need to be a phonenumber, it can be text. | 10:08 |
| Nicd- | ah, SMS | 10:08 |
| flux | I haven't added them to contacts, so it could very well be that the phonebook hasn't taken them into account | 10:08 |
| Nicd- | dunno why you would save that number though | 10:09 |
| flux | well, why not?-) | 10:09 |
| Tegu | I'd like to mark it as spam but jolla keeps showing the text | 10:09 |
| flux | an SMS filter would be great. my mobile phone operator sometimes sends me spam. I wonder if it can be implemented without further APIs from Jolla.. | 10:09 |
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| Tegu | or actually, it shows the contact name until reboot | 10:15 |
| Tegu | after that I should recreate the contact.. | 10:15 |
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| ejjoman | heyho | 10:36 |
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| Mikaela | hi | 10:44 |
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| ikarus | morning | 10:57 |
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| ikarus | hrm, does Jolla have a newsletter with new stuff in the store and such ? | 10:59 |
| ikarus | so I can finally stop missing out on TOHs | 10:59 |
| Mikaela | hi | 11:01 |
| Mikaela | I am not sure, but I received email about that Angry Birds Jolla | 11:01 |
| Mikaela | I think it's "news about Jolla" on bottom right corner https://jolla.com/ | 11:01 |
| ikarus | I think I am on that list already, hmmm | 11:01 |
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| sjtoik | ikarus: there are also http://www.jollausers.com/ and http://jollatides.com/ | 11:10 |
| sjtoik | a bit more stuff on the subject | 11:10 |
| sjtoik | personaly, i prefer the first one | 11:10 |
| * Mikaela adds those to her rss feed spam channel | 11:12 | |
| Mikaela | I have only read JollaSuomi | 11:13 |
| sjtoik | but that is encrypted in some odd local dialect which nobody speaks in the real world | 11:14 |
| sjtoik | mutta toimii sekin | 11:14 |
| Mikaela | :) | 11:14 |
| kro | Any recent experiences how long orders from shop.jolla.com take? my order just went to "In Picking", but I wonder how long it takes from here to be actually shipped | 11:15 |
| Mikaela | kro: mine was expected to ship last tuesday and yesterday I wrote email and they replied that there was delivery error and resent it | 11:16 |
| kro | Mikaela: hum, hope I won't have that "luck" once it actually is shipped | 11:16 |
| kro | (right, what date is today? what could possibly go wrong?!) | 11:16 |
| Mikaela | kro: I already had email about it being shipped weeks ago "and for questions contact Post" | 11:17 |
| Mikaela | 2015-02-13T13:17:36+0200 | 11:17 |
| Mikaela | oh, it's Friday and 13th | 11:17 |
| Mikaela | Fri Feb 13 13:17:53 EET 2015 | 11:17 |
| Mikaela | ISO 8601 doesn't care about names of week days so much | 11:18 |
| kro | oh, in this case I'm lucky, took 10 days from order to get into "picking" | 11:21 |
| Stskeeps | if any issues, contact care | 11:21 |
| kro | I'll just wait, even though I have to admin I'm impatient :) | 11:22 |
| ikarus | sjtoik: yeah, my secret decoder ring is broken sadly | 11:30 |
| ikarus | Although Finnish is one of the few European languages I wouldn't mind adding to my collection | 11:31 |
| Scelt | ikarus: once you learn to shout the PERKELE right, there is no turning back. | 11:34 |
| ikarus | Scelt: will exposure to enough Finnish metal do the trick for that ? | 11:37 |
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| Scelt | ikarus: that is a carefully selected start, indeed | 11:38 |
| Mikaela | I am not sure if I would recommend Finnish | 11:39 |
| TemeV | yeah, Finnish is quite obsolete language. It is only used in Finland and in here you'll do fine with English | 11:41 |
| entil | finnish is the lisp of spoken languages | 11:41 |
| entil | you learn it because it blows your mind and opens you to new ways of thinking | 11:42 |
| Mikaela | the only sane reason that I have heard yet is sane pronouns | 11:42 |
| ln- | TemeV: you are obviously trolling, but nevertheless, Finnish is also used in Sweden and Russia, at least. | 11:43 |
| entil | nice composability, and the lack of prepositions is interesting | 11:43 |
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| Mikaela | minä sinä hän me te he (se) | 11:43 |
| Mikaela | I you he/she/they you (plural), they, it | 11:43 |
| Mikaela | and no one uses hän, it's always "se" about everyone | 11:43 |
| Mikaela | hmm, why did I put se to brackets while I inteded to put hän into brackets… | 11:44 |
| entil | I'd actually say that the 3rd person neutrality is a bug that should be fixed... not because of gender chauvinism but because it makes writing about people with different genders hard | 11:44 |
| TemeV | ln-: of course there is minorities in neighbouring countries, but doesn't make it any more useful language | 11:45 |
| entil | but prepositions... you see those lists online of words in finnish and how hard they are, and you go "lol @ .fi" | 11:45 |
| entil | but then you realize how limiting the english prepositions actually are and how ridiculously difficult it is for finns to pick them up | 11:45 |
| ln- | TemeV: english is missing some essential words that finnish has. | 11:46 |
| TemeV | sure, and the other way around also | 11:46 |
| entil | so sure, you can "get by" with english here because everyone "knows" english, as long as you put up with bad pronounciation, transferred syntax and misplaced prepositions ;P | 11:47 |
| Mikaela | I would see 3rd person being gendered being issue | 11:47 |
| Mikaela | and I cannot think of any case that I have encountered in Finnish while not having gendered third person has been issue | 11:47 |
| TemeV | lack of gender neutral 3rd person pronoun is annouying in most languages | 11:47 |
| entil | Mikaela: write a sex scene in english and in finnish | 11:48 |
| entil | it's not an insurmountable issue, but you'll see the difficulty | 11:48 |
| Mikaela | I am not interested in sex or writing about it | 11:48 |
| entil | the second-hardest is any longer interaction | 11:48 |
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| entil | who did what to whom; in finnish you basically resort to repeating names and stuff like that instead of going he/she | 11:49 |
| Mikaela | do I understand correctly that sex scenes are more important to you than people being able to be themselves, either trans, or entirely out the binary without being always anxious about being gendered? | 11:50 |
| Mikaela | there is also issue with IRC, "most of people at IRC are male, females don't exist at IRC, my IRC is gender neutral, you aren't going to gender it etc.". | 11:50 |
| ln- | Mikaela: the lack of gendered 3rd person is mostly and exclusively a problem when directly translating some foreign language movie dialogue where they play with genders... i.e. "he escaped through the window - how do you know the thief was a man?" | 11:50 |
| Mikaela | in this case I would simply take singular they | 11:51 |
| entil | Mikaela: whoah, no idea where you're coming from now, I just picked the hardest challenge as an example here :D | 11:51 |
| entil | this has nothing to do with identities per se, it's a linguistic challenge | 11:52 |
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| Mikaela | I am asexual if that is what you are wondering | 11:52 |
| entil | ok | 11:52 |
| joonahoi | entil: that can't be an issue | 11:53 |
| joonahoi | you'll encounter the same problems when writing a group sex / gay sex scene :D | 11:53 |
| entil | https://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg | 11:53 |
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| Scelt | haha | 11:54 |
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| ln- | entil: nice that someone has re-captured that one from the new blu-ray release, it's better than the old one. | 11:54 |
| entil | absolutely | 11:55 |
| Scelt | this was a nice chat | 11:56 |
| Scelt | ikarus skipped a launch of a new TOH and we ended up talking about asexuals, gay sex and blu-rays | 11:57 |
| Mikaela | :D | 11:58 |
| joonahoi | bolting that together, blu-ray recording of asexual gay sex would be morally questionable. rape scene i think. | 12:00 |
| joonahoi | btw, how can you tell it's friday? | 12:00 |
| joonahoi | i'll get my coat | 12:01 |
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| virtuald | [Mbt6 | 12:20 |
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| kro | FYI, there's a new ("valentine day") discount for 199 Jolla phones out there - if anybody missed the fosdem code and hasn't got the mail yet | 13:04 |
| Nicd- | yeah, I got the email three times :D | 13:05 |
| Nicd- | once to my jolla account's email, second to my jolla account's previous email, third to my tablet campaign email | 13:05 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | geez | 13:10 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | so much marketing | 13:10 |
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| ejjoman | much email. very marketing. wow. | 13:12 |
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| sebsebseb | ka | 13:19 |
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| sebsebseb | kro: fosdem code? | 13:20 |
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| kro | sebsebseb: there was a special discount code announced at fosdem (fosdem.org), that was valid from feb 1-8th roughly that had the same effect (-50) | 13:23 |
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| sebsebseb | kro: oh well already got one since the tablet crowd funding | 13:24 |
| kro | yep, if you want/need a tablet that one is better value... "unfortunately" I don't see any need to have a tablet for me :) | 13:24 |
| sebsebseb | kro: which one is better value? | 13:26 |
| kro | sebsebseb: tablet + phone bundle | 13:27 |
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| sebsebseb | kro: the fosdem one or the crowd funding perk that there was? | 13:27 |
| kro | sebsebseb: the crowdfunding combo perk (fosdem code was phone-only) | 13:28 |
| sebsebseb | should be getting my Jolla tablet in May to since yes I did the crowd fundinng | 13:29 |
| sebsebseb | kro: I am not so keen on tablets myself since being a touch tpeist but why dont you want one? | 13:30 |
| coderus | Patch: add Sneak Peak to Display settings https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-add-sneak-peak-display-settings | 13:31 |
| kro | sebsebseb: I need a notebook with a real keyboard, that I can throw around, connect to a beamer, maybe hardware-upgrade, install with whatever system I like (and I like bleeding edges), ... | 13:34 |
| anandrkris | coderus: https://together.jolla.com/question/937/glance-screen/ this? | 13:35 |
| coderus | anandrkris: yes | 13:35 |
| anandrkris | Coderus: cool | 13:36 |
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| anandrkris | coderus: https://together.jolla.com/question/73023/native-app-request-daily-comic-strip-viewer-xkcd-chetc/ | 13:36 |
| anandrkris | Have a look at this...see if this interests you...someone already showed interest although looks like may take some time :) | 13:37 |
| coderus | not reading xkcd :) | 13:38 |
| kro | anandrkris: sounds more like a job for a RSS-Reader | 13:38 |
| anandrkris | Coderus: hmm...no comics at all? | 13:38 |
| kro | (don't have my Jolla yet, but on the N9 the inbuilt RSS-Reader can do that) | 13:38 |
| coderus | anandrkris: yep | 13:38 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | coderus: please, no xkcd ? | 13:38 |
| anandrkris | kro: probably should check tidings | 13:38 |
| coderus | Sfiet_Konstantin: yep | 13:39 |
| anandrkris | let me check if rss feed can handle | 13:40 |
| kro | anandrkris: also the tt-rss client if you have (access to) a tt-rss server does display cartoons inline... there's a plugin for dilbert for example to crawl the strip and display it inline as well (although I think it stopped working recently) | 13:40 |
| anandrkris | kro: will check itn out thanks... | 13:41 |
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| Guest50569 | hello | 14:55 |
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| aloumpe | http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=89216 | 14:55 |
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| aloumpe | which path i drop the roms on my phone | 14:55 |
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| Nicd- | isn't it an rpm? | 14:56 |
| aloumpe | yes | 14:56 |
| aloumpe | bou game roms? | 14:56 |
| aloumpe | but | 14:56 |
| Nicd- | don't know, ask in that thread? | 14:57 |
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| Nicd- | but it says on the first page you run `mupen64plus /path/to/rom` | 14:57 |
| Nicd- | so you can put them anywhere you like | 14:57 |
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| aloumpe | ok i try | 14:59 |
| aloumpe | ty | 14:59 |
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| aloumpe | so i type mupen64plus/downloads/to/mariokart64.n64 ? | 15:09 |
| Nicd- | no | 15:10 |
| Nicd- | where is your rom file? | 15:10 |
| aloumpe | i put the roms on downloads | 15:10 |
| Nicd- | so it would be mupen64plus ~/Downloads/mariokart64.n64 | 15:11 |
| Nicd- | note the space | 15:11 |
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| aloumpe | with ~ | 15:11 |
| Nicd- | yes | 15:12 |
| ahjolinna | Linus Torvalds - VOTE for the next kernel number https://plus.google.com/+LinusTorvalds/posts/jmtzzLiiejc | 15:12 |
| Nicd- | or you can type mupen64plus /home/nemo/Downloads/mariokart64.n64 | 15:12 |
| Nicd- | if you think that is easier | 15:12 |
| aloumpe | error could not open re rom | 15:17 |
| aloumpe | i rename the roms on | 15:17 |
| aloumpe | mk.n64 | 15:17 |
| Nicd- | did you type correctly? | 15:17 |
| aloumpe | its that the prob? | 15:18 |
| Nicd- | you should give the correct name of course | 15:18 |
| aloumpe | i think its just the .n64 | 15:18 |
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| ejjoman | please vote for https://together.jolla.com/question/81336/request-limit-max-characterslines-of-question-title-in-askbot/ | 15:20 |
| aloumpe | error could no open rom file forreading | 15:25 |
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| Yaniel | no early access update this week :( | 15:51 |
| Mikaela | :( | 15:52 |
| Scelt | Aard: you honey badget! | 15:52 |
| Scelt | badger | 15:52 |
| Scelt | gadget, inspector | 15:52 |
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| Mikaela | I got pink TOH! :D | 16:09 |
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| Mikaela | nicer than popey red and the sounds are nice (some popey red ones were horrible) :) | 16:16 |
| Yaniel | it seems the sounds are inversely proportional to looks | 16:21 |
| Mikaela | I am not sure what you mean | 16:23 |
| Mikaela | Popey red alarm clock was also somewhat scary | 16:23 |
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| Yaniel | keira black looks nice but I find the soundscape terrible | 16:24 |
| Mikaela | ghost music? | 16:25 |
| Yaniel | and the ones that have nicer sounds tend to look borin :D | 16:25 |
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| Morpog_PC | Yaniel, keira black sounds were awesome :D | 16:33 |
| Morpog_PC | just copy the sounds over and you can use them in any ambiance | 16:33 |
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| tadzik | eh, pff | 18:48 |
| tadzik | tried making an app that uses an Sqlite database, gives me "Out of memory" when trying to open it | 18:49 |
| tadzik | that's better than few months ago, when it gave no errors and just didn't work :P | 18:49 |
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| tadzik | I don't see how a 40K sqlite DB would cause OOM in Qt | 18:58 |
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| tadzik | oh, of course. In QtSqlish, "out of memory" means "the file is readonly for me, but I wanted it readwrite" | 19:11 |
| tadzik | truly a miracle of modern technology | 19:11 |
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| klopsi-u3 | hehe | 19:42 |
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| tadzik | *dum dum dum* coming from the authors of DogeNow, something useful this time: http://imgur.com/a/MCnim (if you play D&D at least) | 21:50 |
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| klopsi-u3 | heh nice | 21:56 |
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