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| cityoflights2 | was there any exciting news at FOSDEM? | 09:52 |
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| tadzik | jolla-related? Not really | 11:36 |
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| Stskeeps | there was a code and i think that was it | 11:38 |
| tbr | I found the roundtables interesting, other parts were much less nice | 11:40 |
| Stskeeps | ah, yes | 11:41 |
| * Stskeeps is having a real bad amnesia day | 11:41 | |
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| tadzik | argh. I sent one SMS to both of my parents, and now when I get a message from either Messages opens the group chat window, which makes me reply to both | 11:50 |
| tadzik | stupid | 11:50 |
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| Pawky | does anyone else have the same issue, its not possible to choose another language on your keyboard? I have Swedish and English, but even if I choose English, it sticks with Swedish... | 12:04 |
| tadzik | hmm, it switches nicely for me | 12:05 |
| Pawky | (its the latest official firmware 1.1.1.27) | 12:05 |
| tadzik | I would like if I could swipe the keyboard left/right to change languages rather than holding space | 12:05 |
| flux | I wonder if that's patented :) | 12:09 |
| Pawky | not even when deselecting the swedish keyboard as an option (only keeping the english) it will change to English | 12:09 |
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| Pawky | and it doesnt work if manually choosing active keyboard... its still Swedish.... (luckily) | 12:10 |
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| Morgawr | mmm.. I pledged for the campaign 3 days ago and still no phone code (or whatever) to order it... where do I get it? is this normal? | 12:20 |
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| joonahoi_ | Morgawr: you pledged for a combo? | 12:24 |
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| Morgawr | joonahoi: yes | 12:27 |
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| joonahoi | I think being half way through day 3 (in business days) fits well in to the promise "In a few business days after your contribution..." | 12:30 |
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| Morgawr | joonahoi: alright, if it's normal then it's good :) I was just worried the order was lost somewhere or whatnot | 12:32 |
| Morgawr | I'll keep eagerly waiting then | 12:32 |
| cityoflights2 | joonahoi: which pledge is it? | 12:33 |
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| vakkov | Developer Taixzo needs a Jolla phone to port his Google now-like client Saera to Sailfish. Help him at - https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/supporting-the-development-of-saera-on-sailfishos | 12:44 |
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| tadzik | hmm, more like Siri-like :) | 12:49 |
| tadzik | maybe it evolved since I last saw it on N900 | 12:49 |
| Nicd- | even using copyrighted apple graphics it seems... | 12:51 |
| Shinryuu | that's random | 12:56 |
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| teve | 0 | 13:22 |
| Nicd- | 1 | 13:22 |
| the_mgt | 01 | 13:22 |
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| jaacoppi | anandrkris: didn't get my jolla yet. It should arrive today, but I'm away for work. I'll probably have time to start using it on monday | 14:09 |
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| anandrkris | anandrkris: cool :) | 14:10 |
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| anandrkris | Hi - Current 'Edit' Mobile data option, why can it not be shown as next page? | 14:12 |
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| anandrkris | Current option is not discoverable as per few posts i have seen... | 14:13 |
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| anandrkris | or it could be under Pulley | 14:27 |
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| anandrkris | https://together.jolla.com/question/81017/setting-mobile-data-edit-easily-discoverable/ filed here :) | 14:40 |
| Nicd- | ooooh there's an edit there | 14:41 |
| Nicd- | would have never guessed it | 14:41 |
| anandrkris | Seriously, there is lot of inconsistencies in UI | 14:42 |
| anandrkris | other day i was demo'ing my phone to bro and he was asking why pulley at times and why button at times... | 14:42 |
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| anandrkris | Set an Ambience as favorite is through star'ing it...why not pulley? It allows 4 options :) | 14:43 |
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| Nicd- | yeah, there are some inconsistencies | 14:44 |
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| j-doge | just out of curiosity: does anybody use themselves or know somebody that uses Yahoo! services like mail and/or calendar? | 14:46 |
| anandrkris | Nicd- : Mobile data - Edit is an Easter egg i suppose ;) | 14:46 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | 17:20 |
| Stskeeps | moo | 17:20 |
| sebsebseb | anyone bought an Ubuntu Phon today? :d | 17:21 |
| sebsebseb | heh heh | 17:21 |
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| javispedro | oh, anyone indeed? ;P | 17:27 |
| javispedro | anyone knows of any minimally technical review of it? do they use mir? | 17:28 |
| sebsebseb | javispedro: yeah did you? | 17:28 |
| sebsebseb | you maen Ubunu PHone? | 17:28 |
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| javispedro | no I didn't buy it, and yes, the ubuntu phone | 17:28 |
| sebsebseb | I was going to buy one today, and yes I already got a Jolla | 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | however I guess it wasn't meant to be me buying an Ubuntu Phone today | 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | since wanted to check money first etc, and then yeah sold out | 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | however there should be another flash sale next week | 17:29 |
| javispedro | the price is interesting, but mediatek? :vomit: | 17:29 |
| javispedro | (albeit I guess that's just me...) | 17:29 |
| sebsebseb | what do you mean mediatek ? | 17:30 |
| sebsebseb | what's mediatek? | 17:30 |
| sebsebseb | it shoudn't be that much realy, it's on a phone that's already a year old | 17:30 |
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| sebsebseb | that's been on ale with Android | 17:30 |
| javispedro | main chip | 17:30 |
| sebsebseb | so just over 100 pounds seems ok to me | 17:30 |
| javispedro | the price looks to me like a hint they're going to go serious with `ecosystem' (stores, etc.) despite what they're saying now | 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | javispedro: apparnatly sold out in 6 minutes each time or whatever | 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | with 12000 orders per minute hmm | 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | what do you mean ecosystem? | 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | getting it out in real shops? | 17:31 |
| sebsebseb | javispedro: I guess when it has the convergene feature sure | 17:31 |
| javispedro | no, putting out program, music, or whatever stores | 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | and same for the other company | 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | did anyone buy that Angry Birds Jolla phone? | 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | that seemed so ponitless to me | 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | why buy a whole new Jolla phone for that | 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | if it was just a cover fine, but nope | 17:32 |
| sebsebseb | cover the other half | 17:33 |
| Mikaela | the other half looks nice though | 17:33 |
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| sebsebseb | I did get to see a speical other get used, by a Jolla staff wink wink that :d | 17:33 |
| sebsebseb | other half | 17:34 |
| sebsebseb | had access to some addiotnal stuff | 17:34 |
| sebsebseb | Jolla phone :) | 17:34 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu Phone soon I guess | 17:34 |
| sebsebseb | March or whatever | 17:34 |
| sebsebseb | Jolla tablet May :) | 17:35 |
| sebsebseb | just need something with FirefoxOS to in a way really :d | 17:35 |
| Mikaela | I think I am happy with Jolla and I don't have immediate need to move. Ubuntu phone is interesting though as from what I understood, it's the same Ubuntu you run on desktop | 17:35 |
| sebsebseb | Mikaela: no not quite | 17:35 |
| sebsebseb | it's | 17:35 |
| sebsebseb | a bit diffenret | 17:36 |
| Mikaela | a bit as in different CPU type? | 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | ,but later on should be able to connct it to a screen and monitor a Ubuntu Phone device I mean and turn it into yep a standard Ubuntu computer | 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | Mikaela: no the OS that's run on Ubuntu Phone is a bit differnet to I think | 17:36 |
| sebsebseb | from the desktop one | 17:36 |
| Mikaela | how much different, I wonder | 17:37 |
| sebsebseb | Jolla lost some people to it | 17:38 |
| Mikaela | oh and I also remember that now s this weeka nd with luck there is that early access available | 17:38 |
| sebsebseb | that would have otherwisused Jolla | 17:38 |
| sebsebseb | Mikaela: what was that just now? | 17:38 |
| Mikaela | no updates yet | 17:38 |
| Mikaela | *now is this week and with... | 17:39 |
| Mikaela | my typing has been bad for days | 17:39 |
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| sebsebseb | soon I'll be able to use my Jolla as a phone to :D | 17:39 |
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| sebsebseb | since I am about to switch network | 17:39 |
| sebsebseb | and then I can use the microsim in it to and yeah :) | 17:39 |
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| the_mgt | I am wondering about all this "use it as a real computer" stuff. cpu doesnt get faster only because you attach a 27" monitor to the device | 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | the_mgt: true | 17:40 |
| sebsebseb | ,but | 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | Ubuntu shoudn't need really powrful hardware to run anyway | 17:41 |
| sebsebseb | sinc it's a Linux distro :) | 17:41 |
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| sebsebseb | a bit like the Jolla phone, the harware is a year or so old, not majorly powerful but good enough to ru the OS,since it's a LInux distro :) | 17:41 |
| the_mgt | I could imagine the Jolla Tablet to be slightly useful, when connected to a tv and using it with a bluetooth keyboard | 17:42 |
| sebsebseb | yeah Jolla tablet will be nice to get :) | 17:43 |
| the_mgt | but it is still only an advanced typewriter | 17:43 |
| SQUelcher | yay, my jolla is on the way back to me.. properly fixed this time, i hope... | 17:43 |
| the_mgt | javispedro: thanks for your work on the pebbel app, btw | 17:44 |
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| javispedro | the_mgt: yw | 17:51 |
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| javispedro | http://www.tizenexperts.com/2015/02/russian-federation-help-tizen-sailfish-battle-android-ios/ heh. | 17:58 |
| trt` | yep | 17:59 |
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| trt` | I wish the Chinese do that too | 17:59 |
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| trt` | ..and India | 17:59 |
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| sebsebseb | javispedro: yes I read something about that | 18:05 |
| sebsebseb | what you think of RUssia giving money for that? | 18:05 |
| RavenholmDX | the_mgt, what pebble app? | 18:07 |
| javispedro | i suspect someone's talking out of his ass there, mostly :) | 18:07 |
| trt` | yeah.. it's all propaganda with Russia | 18:08 |
| trt` | new bombs, new ways.. scaring the west.. | 18:08 |
| RavenholmDX | I'm surprised Russia would promote anything Finnish | 18:08 |
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| the_mgt | RavenholmDX: the one from warehouse, by smoku | 18:09 |
| the_mgt | with a lot of love added by javispedro | 18:09 |
| RavenholmDX | Ah, yeah, that's what I'm using | 18:09 |
| the_mgt | javispedro: do you use your bluetooth LE stuff in combination with the pebble? does it help save battery life? | 18:10 |
| RavenholmDX | In that case, thanks javispedro | 18:10 |
| trt` | RavenholmDX, Russia almost had their gas pipe South Stream goes through Turkey | 18:10 |
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| trt` | In the name of a cause you'd pick your lesser enemies as supporters | 18:12 |
| RavenholmDX | Yeah I guess | 18:12 |
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| javispedro | the_mgt: the pebble doesn't use LE | 18:19 |
| javispedro | so.. no =) | 18:20 |
| javispedro | of all the watches I know only the MW actually uses LE as main protocol | 18:20 |
| javispedro | and the results there are .. mixed | 18:20 |
| javispedro | there is some battery improvement on the phone side, but not much on the watch side | 18:21 |
| javispedro | the big difference is latency | 18:21 |
| javispedro | LE has much lower latency when pairing or even when resuming from low power mode (because it doesn't need one) | 18:21 |
| javispedro | also bandwidth, it is really ridiculous | 18:22 |
| javispedro | ridiculously low that is. which is probably the reason most protocols use LE for discovery but fall back to BDR+RFCOMM / 2.1 for normal operation | 18:23 |
| javispedro | (that seems to be the case for both the gear2 and the androidWear) | 18:23 |
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| javispedro | ... aaand I got carried away again :) | 18:24 |
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| the_mgt | ah, I see. I had expected that it would only increase battery lifetime on the phone | 18:24 |
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| javispedro | btw Stskeeps, moo. testing the bluez2 at the moment | 18:25 |
| the_mgt | I saw that there was an LE entry for my pebble on my ipad, but it might just be for discovery, as you say | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: how is it? | 18:25 |
| Stskeeps | tell me all about it :) | 18:25 |
| javispedro | well... "one size fits all" | 18:25 |
| javispedro | I assume I have larger-than-average head | 18:25 |
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| javispedro | so most of the pressure on my head seems to come from the batteries, not the actual speakers.. | 18:25 |
| javispedro | and it leaks _a lot_ | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | interesting, considering they're saying it has reduced | 18:26 |
| Stskeeps | did you test it by a microphone by chance, to see what it actually leaks? | 18:27 |
| javispedro | the_mgt: they also use LE for the "Apple Notification Center Service" on iPad/iPhone, but for normal communication they talk a propietary bluetooth "made for ipod" protocol | 18:27 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: I only have my laptop's builtin mic around right now, may try later | 18:28 |
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| Stskeeps | ok | 18:29 |
| the_mgt | Stskeeps: one for your gadget collection: http://www.necomimi.com Brainwave Cat Ears... | 18:29 |
| Stskeeps | javispedro: how about bluetooth capabilities? | 18:29 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: I wonder... is it normal that if you put those over your ears, I can actually listen with more volume | 18:29 |
| javispedro | than if I put them around the 'cheekbone' area? | 18:29 |
| javispedro | I mean, that's how loud they leak. | 18:30 |
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| javispedro | also funny: putting them inside a cardboard box | 18:32 |
| javispedro | plenty of "the surprisingly-loud speaking cardboard box" jokes today :) | 18:32 |
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| Stskeeps | javispedro: O_o | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | well, it's probably not nice to put those vibrations right there | 18:35 |
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| Stskeeps | it takes a bit of adjustment, i'm ok with a little in front of my ears | 18:35 |
| Stskeeps | does your have a f**king annoying blue led too? | 18:35 |
| javispedro | no leds at all while on | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | i had to tape mine up | 18:36 |
| Stskeeps | it was doing it every 10 seconds | 18:36 |
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| javispedro | heh | 18:36 |
| the_mgt | are you fooling around with bone conductive headsets? | 18:36 |
| javispedro | more or less | 18:36 |
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| Stskeeps | the_mgt: i like obscure technology | 18:38 |
| javispedro | Stskeeps: re bluetooth... it seems to curiously support RFC-2250/MPEG2 audio | 18:39 |
| javispedro | no apt-X nor AAC | 18:39 |
| javispedro | and obviously SBC (standard) | 18:39 |
| javispedro | dunno about MPEG2, but it's probably no better than SBC. | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:40 |
| Stskeeps | so i probably did the right thing to get wired, for experiments | 18:40 |
| javispedro | yeah | 18:40 |
| javispedro | it does pair with the jolla without a problem | 18:40 |
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| Stskeeps | good | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | a2dp? | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | i presume | 18:41 |
| javispedro | yep | 18:41 |
| javispedro | hm | 18:41 |
| Stskeeps | any other services on the thing? :P | 18:41 |
| javispedro | yeah, handsfree | 18:42 |
| javispedro | hm | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | ok | 18:42 |
| javispedro | this deserves more experiemntation though | 18:42 |
| javispedro | it might actually handle mp3 | 18:42 |
| javispedro | that's surprising, but so is the mpeg2 entry.. | 18:42 |
| Stskeeps | i really wonder why dual direction a2dp isn't a thing | 18:43 |
| javispedro | bandwidth prob | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | like, high quality microphone input, and output | 18:43 |
| Stskeeps | but even so, high quality audio out, and low quality input, would be nice | 18:43 |
| javispedro | hm, seems that android is actually capable of doing Mp3 streams | 18:44 |
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| * javispedro adds another entry to the "crazy items" list | 18:46 | |
| javispedro | *crazy projects | 18:46 |
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| javispedro | lamemp3 is quite transparent these days, quite certainly better than sbc | 18:47 |
| javispedro | dunno about the latency, though | 18:47 |
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| ShadowJK | voice codecs seem to accidentally works as noise filters too | 18:50 |
| ShadowJK | as a side effect of being able to encode voices well but other sounds poorly | 18:51 |
| javispedro | yeah, I often use a similar trick to hide scanner noise in jpeg images =) | 18:52 |
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| javispedro | if I leave the headset in pairing one ends up looking like robocop (blue/red flashing light and VISOR-like device in head) | 18:59 |
| Nicd- | I uploaded my GPS speedometer to openrepos: https://openrepos.net/content/nicd/pitot | 19:00 |
| Nicd- | my first openrepos app, yay | 19:00 |
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| javispedro | at some point, I ponder if a static library with a QtPositioning-like API that would directly call gypsy's D-Bus API would be a good way to workaround insane harbour policies | 19:05 |
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| cvp_ | Cant Connect with GoPro Hero 4 Black - https://together.jolla.com/question/44075/anyone-tried-the-android-app-for-gopro-wifi-cameras/?answer=81031#post-id-81031 | 19:07 |
| Nicd- | javispedro: I'm hoping they will allow it this spring, would probably take longer to make a library that masquerades the issue | 19:08 |
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| Azog | does someone have the accounthelper.apk from https://together.jolla.com/question/40308/how-to-add-google-account-for-android-apps/ ? download is not working anymore | 20:30 |
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| * sebsebseb Giffgaff here I come tommorow, assuming things go all to plan :) | 21:23 | |
| sebsebseb | and then dum de dum | 21:23 |
| sebsebseb | since I got a microsim for that yep | 21:23 |
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| sebsebseb | I can actasully start using my Jolla phone as well a phone :D | 21:23 |
| sebsebseb | awesome! :) | 21:23 |
| trt` | :) | 21:23 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: yep :) | 21:24 |
| trt` | what kinda phone have you been using as a phone so far sebsebseb | 21:24 |
| sebsebseb | well old pones years ago, old Nokia ones, but the one I been using for just over two years now | 21:24 |
| sebsebseb | well | 21:24 |
| sebsebseb | one I didn't really want to buy as such, but well Nexus 4 was sold out at the time so | 21:25 |
| sebsebseb | and it was a popuar enough one etc, Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini | 21:25 |
| trt` | i see | 21:25 |
| sebsebseb | I won't retire it completly it's a nice pocket sizzed phone :d | 21:25 |
| sebsebseb | Jolla is a bit big | 21:25 |
| the_mgt | buy pants with bigger pockets | 21:26 |
| the_mgt | I did that | 21:26 |
| trt` | wouldn't you miss apps if you mainly use your jolla? | 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | what Android apps? | 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | nah | 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | well | 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | 1. to many of htem really | 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | so only tried out a few anyway on that phone and some on a cheap tablet to | 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | 2. I can run mot Andorid apps on Jolla anyway it turns out :D awesome :) | 21:26 |
| sebsebseb | or so it seems :) | 21:26 |
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| trt` | brb gotta take dogs out.. | 21:27 |
| sebsebseb | 3. well there are native Jolla apps to play around with to :) | 21:27 |
| sebsebseb | SalifishOS apps | 21:27 |
| trt` | got more to say on the topic | 21:27 |
| the_mgt | I am only missing Torque | 21:27 |
| sebsebseb | also I coudn't buy one today since when I Was going to already sold out | 21:27 |
| sebsebseb | ,but yes | 21:27 |
| sebsebseb | I am going to buy an Ubuntu Phone to :) | 21:27 |
| sebsebseb | then just need something with FirefoxOS on it to heh heh, and maybe webos I read that it's on something now :d | 21:28 |
| Teemu | webos as in the thing 3com made after palmos? | 21:29 |
| sebsebseb | yeah palmos made it | 21:31 |
| sebsebseb | and sold it to someone | 21:31 |
| sebsebseb | there was something at CES with it on I think from what I read don't remember what now though | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | Palm and then HP made webOS | 21:31 |
| trt` | :) | 21:31 |
| Morgawr | How well does google music play on Jolla? I have yet to get my phone | 21:31 |
| M4rtinK | for the Pre phones and the TouchPad tablet | 21:31 |
| the_mgt | LG uses webos on TVs, iirc | 21:32 |
| trt` | See, I have a Galaxy S5 9size doesn't bother me) but my concern is.. if I get a Jolla i don't know if all the apps will run | 21:32 |
| trt` | especially banking ones | 21:32 |
| Teemu | here is a sailfish native youtube player | 21:33 |
| Teemu | works nicely | 21:33 |
| trt` | I'd love to play with them all... See how they are - Firefox OS, Sailfish, RIM | 21:33 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: yes difent OS's are phone | 21:34 |
| M4rtinK | the cheap Firefox OS make for a good advanced dumbphone | 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | OS's are fun :d | 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | differnet ones | 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | iOS may not be that phone, but hmm I actsaully gave in | 21:34 |
| M4rtinK | has a decent browser, wifi APP, some basic apps | 21:34 |
| sebsebseb | the other wek and bought my first Apple product but at quite a discounted price for one :d | 21:35 |
| sebsebseb | iOS may not be that fun, above that was meant to say | 21:35 |
| M4rtinK | you just need to keep the alarm clock application focused or it won't wake you up in the morning :) | 21:35 |
| trt` | :) | 21:37 |
| trt` | what do you mean focused? | 21:37 |
| M4rtinK | if you switch to another app | 21:38 |
| M4rtinK | or to desktop | 21:38 |
| trt` | like on? | 21:38 |
| M4rtinK | the alarm will not sound on the Firefox OS device :) | 21:38 |
| trt` | oh wow | 21:38 |
| M4rtinK | a friend of mine managed to sleep in like this once :) | 21:39 |
| sebsebseb | M4rtinK: have you got a FIrfoxOS device? | 21:39 |
| M4rtinK | so it is kinda basic | 21:39 |
| M4rtinK | yeah | 21:39 |
| M4rtinK | the Alcatel one | 21:39 |
| sebsebseb | M4rtinK: whre did you buy one from? | 21:39 |
| M4rtinK | some random guy in Poland :) | 21:39 |
| trt` | :) | 21:39 |
| trt` | M4rtinK, you in Polland? | 21:39 |
| M4rtinK | cos me about 35€ | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | *cost | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | Czech Republic | 21:40 |
| sebsebseb | M4rtinK: what from Ebay or something? | 21:40 |
| trt` | oh ok | 21:40 |
| trt` | I heard Windows Phone is big in Polland | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | it was about ~900 Czech Crowns | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | which is pretty cheep for a decent dumbphone/smartphone hybrid | 21:40 |
| trt` | how is WP doing in Czech Republic | 21:40 |
| M4rtinK | you can see it sometimes but not very often | 21:41 |
| M4rtinK | mostly android | 21:41 |
| the_mgt | trt`: I have one banking app and it works nice. It is possibly easier and more trustworthy if you get them via play store | 21:41 |
| trt` | I see | 21:41 |
| M4rtinK | or dumbphones or still symbian nokias :) | 21:41 |
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| trt` | the_mgt, where you at? | 21:42 |
| the_mgt | germany | 21:42 |
| * sebsebseb thinks he should do phon stuff tonight really, then wait for number to be moved over and :d | 21:42 | |
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| the_mgt | and wrt ios devices, the integration is so bloody nice. airplay with apple tv really rocks, using itunes to manage music on devices, syncing contacts/calendars without the cloud | 21:43 |
| * sebsebseb thinks buying EU to UK adapters whilst on the way back from Belgium, was a clever move acauly, since yes other chargers can be used, but turns out Ubuntu Phone gets sent with a EU one to not UK it seems | 21:43 | |
| sebsebseb | yes can use another charge or USB | 21:44 |
| sebsebseb | ,but now not complety useless | 21:44 |
| the_mgt | android sucks so much in this regard | 21:44 |
| trt` | the_mgt, im in the US and here we mostly get paid with paychecks. No direct deposits and all | 21:44 |
| trt` | and with banking apps you deposit your paychecks by just taking a picture | 21:45 |
| the_mgt | trt`: haha, that is so backwards... | 21:45 |
| trt` | :) | 21:45 |
| trt` | well... it is what it is ;) | 21:45 |
| the_mgt | here, everything works with wire transfer | 21:45 |
| trt` | anyway, I thought, since it has to use the camera UI of the Jolla phone.. it might get complicated... I don't know | 21:46 |
| the_mgt | and we distrust banking cards, credit cards even more | 21:46 |
| the_mgt | android can easily use the jolla camera | 21:46 |
| trt` | ok | 21:47 |
| sebsebseb | the_mgt: so your saying iOS is good? | 21:47 |
| sebsebseb | the_mgt: well I just over a week ago I bought a Ipad Air at quite a discounted price, altough admitedly nt taken out of the box just yet, becaues of certain reasons etc | 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | ,but soon :) | 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | let's see what the hype is really about | 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | or not about :d | 21:48 |
| trt` | iOS runs fast | 21:48 |
| trt` | not customizable tho | 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: do you know pounds? | 21:48 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: can't remember the euros price now for that Ipad Air 1st generation, but in pounds it would be like £211 seemed like a deal to me :d | 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | heh I looked at Argos a popualr thing in UK for stuff | 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | and yeah they sell for like £150 more | 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | £356 uh | 21:49 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: yeah some peole whine about hat it not being customisable | 21:50 |
| sebsebseb | ,but I suppouse the Apple brand is the brand, and the look is the look, and well that's Apple | 21:50 |
| sebsebseb | for both hardware and software | 21:50 |
| sebsebseb | heh heh the Windows 7 Starter Editiont that came on this net book isn't really comstiable or as such either, can't change background, wel I guess there's a way to hack it, but you know actauly it's not so bad for Windows that starter editon | 21:51 |
| trt` | hm | 21:51 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: why hmm? | 21:53 |
| the_mgt | sebsebseb: the apple devices are kind of expensive, i don't know if they are overprized though. my gf still uses a macbook from 2006. gbit lan, wifi class g. it gets loud and hot when she watches youtube videos. the rest works flawless | 21:53 |
| trt` | I'm just dropping a line while I'm reading back what was said | 21:53 |
| trt` | so you see that i'm paying attention ;) | 21:53 |
| sebsebseb | the_mgt: indeed they are expesive, but I got one for like £150 less than the UK price :D | 21:53 |
| trt` | kidding | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | £256 Argos and I got for like £211 | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | no no | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | that's | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | £356 Argos | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | and I ggot for like £211 | 21:54 |
| trt` | I can't really say if that's a lot.. after all I never wanted an iPad | 21:54 |
| trt` | and cared for one | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: no I din't really either as such | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | well a part of me did a little | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | wel wanting some sort of Apple product | 21:54 |
| the_mgt | also, they have a resell value. most windows boxes and android phones don't | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | despite the amount of Apple dislikers I know on IRC and so on | 21:54 |
| trt` | But I got myself a Surface more than a year ago for $200 | 21:54 |
| sebsebseb | I guess the Apple fan boys | 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | or fan boy at my speaking group got at me a bit | 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | yeah got some right Apple fan boys in my public speaking group uh | 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | peopel who think Apple is so great, but actaully these people also arne't exactly technical | 21:55 |
| sebsebseb | anyway I'l have osme interesting devices that could show people and compare to each other a bit even :D | 21:56 |
| sebsebseb | and talk about :d. Jolla phone :) | 21:56 |
| sebsebseb | Samsuing Glaxy S3 Mini no no not that, that's boring now, and old | 21:56 |
| the_mgt | gotta go to sleep now, good night | 21:56 |
| sebsebseb | cheap Android tablet I got, no not that iether, with Jelly Bean. Ubuntu Phone? yah I guess :) Jolla tablet once got sure :) | 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | and then can be like and yeah that's ipad, but.... look | 21:57 |
| trt` | I don't really like tablets much | 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | and this is about | 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | .... | 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: yeah same | 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | I am a touch typist | 21:57 |
| trt` | next tech device im buying is a all-in-one computer | 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | 16 years or so, and I mean look above, you can see I type fast and a lot :d | 21:57 |
| sebsebseb | yes on a net boo keyboard right now so fast :) | 21:58 |
| sebsebseb | on a phone or tablet touch screen, well that's not me really, and that's ages for me to do messages | 21:58 |
| sebsebseb | takes ages above | 21:58 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: the Mint box the new one that will be sold in Spring | 21:59 |
| sebsebseb | that seems interesing to | 21:59 |
| sebsebseb | a small desktop comuter it seems' for reaosnably cheap, conidering buying that to :d | 21:59 |
| sebsebseb | also that Intel stick seems intersing to, but I think that was a only sold in USA for now thing so eh | 21:59 |
| trt` | sebsebseb i have ubuntu on my laptop | 22:00 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: I mean this for the Mint one: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/01/linux-mintbox-mini-specs-pc-price | 22:00 |
| sebsebseb | and seems the isreali company behind it has someting simiilar for sale at the moment | 22:00 |
| trt` | it's missing some stuff | 22:00 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: Mageia is my distributon of choice for uhmm yeah the begning rally :) | 22:01 |
| trt` | I can't even apply for some jobs, cuz I have an Ubuntu | 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: plus been to eents, meet contributers etc | 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | did that again the other weekend, fun :) | 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: oh you know something about Mageia? | 22:01 |
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| trt` | nothing | 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: ok well I'l link you to a video then taken at the event the other weekend :) | 22:01 |
| trt` | I mean as a whole Linux has a lot of software missing | 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | lasts a few minutes | 22:01 |
| trt` | ok :) | 22:01 |
| sebsebseb | ,but explaisn nicely what Mageia is about etc :) | 22:01 |
| trt` | I'f love to learn tho | 22:02 |
| trt` | away now tho.. | 22:02 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: well for later then | 22:04 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDLNbA6kERI&feature=youtu.be | 22:04 |
| sebsebseb | trt`: I used to run Ubuntu for yaers as my deksotp LInux distribution of choie scond relae in 2005 to 2009, but yeah not anymore | 22:04 |
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| sebsebseb | oh yeah and started with Fedora 2 and 4, ,but oudn't use online at the time since... Desktop LInux since 2004 yeah :) | 22:05 |
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