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| juiceme | TMavica, ping | 08:04 |
| TMavica | Yes | 08:04 |
| juiceme | TMavica, still have not received the TOH's... I have no idea where thy have gone :( | 08:05 |
| TMavica | I check the site, it is nil stock | 08:05 |
| TMavica | Maybe ask post office? | 08:05 |
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| juiceme | I guess I have to email Jolla and ask about the package. Went to company mailroom yesterday and asked if there's anything that I have received that they maybe have misplaced but no... | 08:06 |
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| juiceme | I ordered them to my company address, so they should come in mailroom and from there to my office | 08:06 |
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| juiceme | I guess I was able to order before they went out-of-stock since the shop status shows "dispatched" | 08:07 |
| TMavica | but you paid | 08:07 |
| TMavica | ? | 08:07 |
| juiceme | yes I paid :( | 08:07 |
| TMavica | U ordered how many? | 08:07 |
| juiceme | one of each | 08:08 |
| juiceme | just for you :) | 08:08 |
| TMavica | Email to jolla ask about it? | 08:08 |
| TMavica | I think it misplaced | 08:08 |
| juiceme | I'll do that now | 08:08 |
| TMavica | 2 weeks still not receive is impossible | 08:09 |
| juiceme | now am looking at the order in jolla shop: | 08:09 |
| juiceme | 600000032 1/21/2015 Jussi Ohenoja €58.00 Shipped | 08:10 |
| TMavica | Now is 10/2. Lol | 08:10 |
| juiceme | it says "shipped" so at least the shop thinks they have sent them :( | 08:10 |
| juiceme | yes | 08:10 |
| TMavica | Maybe someone get it. Lol | 08:11 |
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| Mikaela | TMavica: did I understand correctly that you haven't received some TOH you ordered from jolla.com? I ordered the pink one around two weeks ago and they said that they shipped it, but I never got it either | 08:14 |
| TMavica | Yes. Juiceme is that situation | 08:15 |
| TMavica | He ordered at 21/1, and few days later shipped, but now still havent receive | 08:15 |
| Mikaela | it's three weeks actually, I am trying to find the email on shipping, but now I found the receipt. 2015-01-21 16:45:06+0200 | 08:15 |
| juiceme | Mikaela, I ordered 2 TOH's, and am going to ship them to TMavica when I get them... | 08:15 |
| TMavica | LOL | 08:16 |
| juiceme | Mikaela, I ordered 21.1 and they told me 26.1 that they have shipped the package.... | 08:17 |
| Mikaela | shipping confirmation, "itella lettter, 3-7 days", email received 2015-01-26 | 08:17 |
| TMavica | juiceme: my toholed ship to Hong Kong from Finland is faster than that. Lol | 08:17 |
| juiceme | it has been 2 weeks now from the shipping date... I wonder where did they send them to ? | 08:17 |
| Mikaela | "for questions, contact Post customer service", ok | 08:17 |
| Mikaela | and the post customer service link is 404 http://www.posti.fi/postipalvelee/asiakaspalvelu/ | 08:18 |
| TMavica | Mikaela: have you got the answer yet? | 08:18 |
| Mikaela | answer to what? | 08:18 |
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| TMavica | U still havent receive u said | 08:18 |
| Mikaela | no, I haven't, but I haven't asked anything and didn't think about until I noticed you talking about it | 08:19 |
| Mikaela | according to that estimated time I should have received exactly week ago at maximum | 08:19 |
| Pawky | Ehh... did I miss the jolla tablet 3.5G perc option, or has it never been publicised? | 08:19 |
| Mikaela | I haven't heard anything about Jolla tablet with 3G, as far as I am aware, it's WLAN-only | 08:20 |
| juiceme | Just sent a request to zendesk about the shipment. Let's see what they answer? | 08:20 |
| Mikaela | ah, our Post office identification page is unreachable | 08:21 |
| TMavica | juiceme: my toholed is faster than those. :P | 08:21 |
| juiceme | TMavica yes, kimmoli uses fast horses to deliver :) | 08:21 |
| kimmoli | :) | 08:22 |
| Mikaela | asiakaspalvelu@posti.com according to http://posti.fi/henkiloasiakkaat/postipalvelee/kysyverkossa/ | 08:22 |
| Pawky | Mikaela: thats what I thought as well.. but reading the back log of jolla.com it states there has been one perc for it.. | 08:22 |
| juiceme | Morning kimmo :) | 08:22 |
| TMavica | It is so fit! | 08:22 |
| Pawky | it would be outrageous if I missed it, as this is really one main feature to have if wanting to be truly mobile | 08:22 |
| TMavica | Much more tight than official one | 08:22 |
| anYc | I also think it was never an option. but it was on the wishlist | 08:22 |
| Pawky | anYc: aha, thats what I thought as well... and a bit weird it was rated lower than split screen, i would rather have 3g than split screen. My current Samsung can do split screen, but i never use it... | 08:23 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: shipped as letter can mean it can take aslong as 3 weeks even on regular routes, if it exceeds that time, contact both Jolla and your local post office | 08:24 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: it's a sort of 19th century quirk in the postal system | 08:24 |
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| anYc | Pawky: I don't remember if it was an official statement but I heard it makes production a lot harder due to needed certifications and stuff | 08:24 |
| Mikaela | ikarus: both me and Jolla are supposed to be in Finland and I am contacting the Post office | 08:24 |
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| Pawky | anYc: true... | 08:25 |
| Pawky | still, using it with the phone will drain both units, which might not be ideal... | 08:25 |
| Pawky | is there a separate tablet chat by the way? | 08:25 |
| ikarus | *facepalm* a US site is refusing to accept dots in the firstname field | 08:25 |
| ikarus | and legally just my actual firstname + lastname is not my full name and incorrect to refer to me by in official documentation | 08:26 |
| ikarus | so I guess they want me to write all my names full out.... | 08:26 |
| anYc | Pawky: ah, 3.5g was a strech goal at $2.5m | 08:27 |
| Pawky | anYc: so, they never put a perc out right? | 08:27 |
| Mikaela | ikarus: how long is your full name? | 08:27 |
| Mikaela | mine is 35 characters including the spaces and all official places always cut my name at some point :( | 08:27 |
| ikarus | 28, slightly easier | 08:28 |
| Pawky | Mikaela: could it be due to finnish being amongst the longest character based languages to date? ;-) | 08:29 |
| ikarus | On most websites I actually do stuff like order things I just enter my initials as a firstname, even if that makes the site look ridiculous | 08:29 |
| ikarus | it atleast makes orders 100% reliable | 08:29 |
| Mikaela | possible | 08:29 |
| Mikaela | I don't usually put my middle names anywhere unless they are especially asked and required | 08:29 |
| ikarus | it doesn't help that the name I am addressed to as conventionally is a variation of my second name | 08:30 |
| ikarus | and my mailbox lists my initials | 08:30 |
| anYc | Pawky: no, in an update on indiegogo they said $1.8m were raised | 08:30 |
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| ikarus | I've had packages fail because I used that name, gg | 08:30 |
| Mikaela | I see, mine aren't variations | 08:30 |
| Pawky | damn, that stretch would have been really usefull.. | 08:30 |
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| ikarus | Mikaela: it's very uh, Dutch | 08:31 |
| * Mikaela started wondering would IRC accept her full name into that USER command or is it too long | 08:32 | |
| Mikaela | Mikaela Henriikka Maini Suomalainen | 08:32 |
| Mikaela | and the only places which uses it where you see it is Microsoft Lync at school for some weird reason | 08:32 |
| tbr | out of curiosity, are you using SIPe to connect to lync? | 08:33 |
| Mikaela | the official client on Windows if you mean me | 08:33 |
| ikarus | I've written systems here, you need to keep track of the common name, firstnames and lastname as three seperate fields and both first and lastname are optional (but not both obviously) and some other fun quirks, like capitalising anything is not done and firstnames joined by dashes are handled special, etc | 08:33 |
| ikarus | it's a headache of fun | 08:33 |
| ikarus | the USA is boringly simple with firstname, lastname and perhaps middle names | 08:35 |
| juiceme | Mikaela, think about it you could well be called "Laura Jenna Ellinoora Alexandra Camilla Jurvanen" :) | 08:36 |
| ikarus | juiceme: "Thanks mom" is the correct response to too many names | 08:36 |
| juiceme | ikarus, only 2 firstnames okay in the USA? | 08:36 |
| Mikaela | famous name that no one would forget | 08:36 |
| ikarus | juiceme: only a single firstname | 08:36 |
| ikarus | juiceme: middlenames are not names for most purposes in the USA | 08:37 |
| Mikaela | but doesn't law allow only three middle names? | 08:37 |
| Mikaela | wait, two | 08:37 |
| tbr | Mikaela: ok, was just wondering, as I am peripheraly involved in the open source client work for Lync | 08:37 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: I hope not, that would be ridiculous | 08:37 |
| inz | Mikaela, yes, finnish law allows only "3 first names" | 08:37 |
| juiceme | but people there being from all over da globe you'd suppose they gave their offspring all manner of names? | 08:37 |
| Mikaela | I see | 08:37 |
| Mikaela | :) | 08:37 |
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| ikarus | juiceme: I think the only Dutch limit is "reasonable" (ie, you must have a reason for having many) and all of them must be sensible, fair names for the kid | 08:38 |
| Mikaela | I was given three first names only because my mother doesn't have middle names and decided to give us all allowed three | 08:38 |
| Mikaela | and when I changed my name I didn't know about that reason and took these instead of being just Mikaela | 08:38 |
| ikarus | the rest, free for all | 08:38 |
| juiceme | well yes in finland you are allowed just 3 names, but the manner of the language is combinatory so you fairly well can stack up something like "Laurajenna Ellinoora-alexandra Camillasirpa" :) | 08:39 |
| Mikaela | :D | 08:39 |
| juiceme | ikarus, I somehow thought that especially the Dutch av *insensible* names | 08:40 |
| ikarus | I wish Jolla would ship a bit more cheaply for just TOHs | 08:40 |
| Mikaela | free shipping for that pink TOH here | 08:40 |
| ikarus | juiceme: we don't have lists of names like Denmark, so some oddities do slip through | 08:40 |
| ikarus | juiceme: but I mean we have a star mathematician called Ionica | 08:40 |
| ikarus | so yeah, there is some leeway | 08:41 |
| juiceme | since sometima last few centuries when people had only firstnames, they passed a law that people needed surnames too, and some were so pissed they took *very* strange names indeed as a protest | 08:41 |
| ikarus | juiceme: oh, yes, that, but that is historical, also not so much out of protest as much as out of "damn, I need a name" | 08:41 |
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| ikarus | before that we had patronyms and matronyms like Iceland still has | 08:42 |
| inz | Mikaela, juiceme, note to earlier, combination names are counted as one name, so "Laura-Jenna Ellinoora-Alexandra Camilla Jurvanen" should be legit | 08:42 |
| juiceme | at least I was told this once by a dutchman, unless he was pulling me badly :) | 08:42 |
| Mikaela | there weren't spaces in the original one | 08:42 |
| juiceme | juiceme> at least I was told this once by a dutchman, unless he was pulling me badly :) | 08:42 |
| inz | oh, sorry, juiceme already pointed that out | 08:42 |
| Mikaela | s/spaces/dashes/ | 08:42 |
| inz | nevermind then | 08:42 |
| ikarus | juiceme: well, we do have lastnames like Naakgeboren, (born naked) and other such oddities | 08:43 |
| inz | Mikaela, how do you know, it's a song ;) | 08:43 |
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| juiceme | Mikaela, you are correct, I just typed the names with spaces by mistake... | 08:43 |
| Mikaela | I mean the first line from juiceme | 08:43 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: meh, the pink one is already sold out, although I'd really would love a purple or red one instead *crosses fingers* | 08:43 |
| juiceme | ikarus, exactly | 08:43 |
| Mikaela | purple would be nice ♥ | 08:43 |
| Mikaela | I have red one | 08:43 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: oh, pooh | 08:44 |
| Mikaela | ikarus: your nick colour is purple here by the way | 08:44 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: heh | 08:44 |
| ikarus | fits me, favourite colour probably | 08:44 |
| Mikaela | same | 08:44 |
| juiceme | mine favourite gould be green, and since it is not available my TOHOLED is green :) | 08:44 |
| Mikaela | I like red and pink too though and blue is mostly also ok | 08:44 |
| ikarus | http://www.curbsideclassic.com/wp-content/comment-image/183469.jpg my old car (well, not that one, but the colour at least) | 08:45 |
| Mikaela | :) | 08:45 |
| * juiceme has to go, daily kanban starting. | 08:45 | |
| ikarus | Mikaela: I could do with red, perhaps a lightish blue or pink, but meh, I keep missing out on stuff in the shop | 08:45 |
| Mikaela | there was together thread on that | 08:46 |
| Mikaela | bye | 08:46 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: I just don't visit sites like that often enough :( | 08:46 |
| Mikaela | ikarus: https://together.jolla.com/question/65796/shop-provide-pre-order-possibility-as-other-halfes-and-accessories-are-out-of-stock/ | 08:46 |
| Mikaela | there are also links to other places which have those in stock | 08:47 |
| ikarus | I see the poppy red one, but they haven't done a bright red one yet ? | 08:48 |
| Mikaela | I am not aware of any other red than poppy red | 08:48 |
| ikarus | and no blues other then the Aloe (which isn't quite blue) it seems | 08:49 |
| * ikarus whips out a Finnish secret decoder ring | 08:49 | |
| ikarus | guess I could try mailing http://www.huoltoaava.fi/tuote-avainsana/jolla-other-half/ as I can't see an obvious international order option, that red kind of grows on me, even though I really want a purple | 08:52 |
| ikarus | might end up spray painting my white cover :) | 08:53 |
| ikarus | (also have a keira black to fall back on) | 08:53 |
| pp | tohkbd <3 | 08:53 |
| urs | sooon! | 08:54 |
| Mikaela | I don't see anything anywhere on where they ship | 08:54 |
| ikarus | pp: heh, ordered that one in alumite | 08:54 |
| ikarus | as alumite is really nice | 08:54 |
| * pp has a black wireless charging funkytoh that has cracked quite a bit :( | 08:55 | |
| ikarus | but I might use a transparent paint over alumite to make it look nicer | 08:55 |
| pp | oh well, fall back to first one while waiting for the keyboard :-) | 08:55 |
| ikarus | I've done that before with shapeways alumide (sorry, d, not t) | 08:55 |
| ikarus | it looks gorgeous | 08:55 |
| ikarus | dark purple, slightly sparkly | 08:55 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: often companies are more then willing to if you just contact them | 08:57 |
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| Mikaela | probably. I think they mentioned info@ somewhere | 08:59 |
| ikarus | yup, so I'll poke them, see if I can get a "red" one and then later order, I guess the pink from Jolla, unless they suddenly decide to make a purple one, I want some variation when not using TOHKBD | 09:00 |
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| Mikaela | soon Jolla eats most of my money if they start making all TOHs that I like | 09:00 |
| ikarus | heh | 09:01 |
| ikarus | I am hoping to get in touch with Dirk soon to see how work it is to swap cases on TOHKBDs, because I might want another one aswell, know the files will be/are public, but no idea how hard swapping around really is | 09:02 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: I think I'd stop with a red, purple/pink and a light blue | 09:03 |
| ikarus | perhaps if they release a pure red | 09:03 |
| Mikaela | I think I would be happy with popey red, pink (when it arrives) and purple (if it's released) | 09:03 |
| ikarus | Mikaela: shall we pressure jolla into a proper purple one :P | 09:04 |
| Yaniel | quite some "redheads" you are | 09:05 |
| Mikaela | sure | 09:05 |
| Mikaela | but I don't ever remember which people were in jolla unless it's voting at together | 09:05 |
| Mikaela | I think that my red haircolour is already leaving as I have only had it once | 09:05 |
| ikarus | currently sporting dark blue (almost purpleish, coincidence, I think not) | 09:06 |
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| ikarus | I mean I have bootloaders that will validate a RSA signature and use XTEA to decrypt the firmware | 09:07 |
| ikarus | (as a overkill example project, I wouldn't dare unleash that on the worlld) | 09:07 |
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| * SK_work looks at the jobs offers @ Jolla and found: | 11:41 | |
| SK_work | python, d3, backbone, marionette, linux kernel, gcc, scratchbox, Dota 2, sauerbraten are regarded as an advantage | 11:41 |
| SK_work | DOTA 2 ? | 11:41 |
| SK_work | :D | 11:41 |
| tadzik | hahaa | 11:42 |
| tadzik | "use and like technically driven JFDI or similar methodologies" | 11:43 |
| ninnnu | SK_work: Sauerbraten isn't exactly a..tool, either. | 11:45 |
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| chem|st | SK_work: I make an excellent sauerbraten, have a backbone, d3 and dota 2 - so I have all softskills needed, right? | 11:45 |
| tadzik | I wonder how big of a plus competitive experience is :P | 11:48 |
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| ikarus | ninnnu: erm, I have seen more joblistings including the office games | 12:00 |
| ikarus | Minecraft is a popular one | 12:00 |
| j-doge | 4k+ MMR or don't bother applying | 12:01 |
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| jaacoppi | so that's why new updates always take so long, wednesdays and fridays are DotA tournament days? | 12:12 |
| jaacoppi | talka about casual friday | 12:13 |
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| j-doge | no, friday is no-pants-day, dota is tuesdays and thursdays, doom is on mondays | 12:18 |
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| flux | when will someone port doom to jolla, btw? | 12:27 |
| flux | it should work decently with tohkbd ;-), at least if it tolerates any keys pressed at the same time | 12:27 |
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| Hartzi | Duke Nukem 3D would be also nice | 13:00 |
| Hartzi | worked fine on N900 | 13:01 |
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| SK_work | chem|st: :) | 13:04 |
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| cityoflights2 | hi, is there now and official way to buy a second battery? | 13:19 |
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| anYc | there was an official sale a few weeks ago but it's sold out | 13:29 |
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| SK_work | http://www.pcworld.com/article/2881152/ddos-malware-for-linux-systems-comes-with-sophisticated-custombuilt-rootkit.html?sf7361556=1 | 14:24 |
| SK_work | maybe disable SSH password access on Jolla ? | 14:24 |
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| Nicd- | or don't have a lousy password | 14:26 |
| lainwir3d | +1 :P | 14:26 |
| lainwir3d | or install fail2ban (or something similar) | 14:27 |
| Nicd- | https://howsecureismypassword.net/ | 14:27 |
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| lainwir3d | 3 tentatives or banned for 2hours | 14:27 |
| Nicd- | you can use that to calculate how long it would take to bruteforce. except it was only 60000 per 24h which is nothing | 14:27 |
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| SK_work | Nicd-: nice website :) | 14:28 |
| lainwir3d | yes and no | 14:28 |
| lainwir3d | I may be paranoid | 14:29 |
| lainwir3d | but I won't enter my password there | 14:29 |
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| Nicd- | I don't either | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | but enter something similar | 14:29 |
| Teemu | :D | 14:29 |
| Nicd- | of similar length | 14:29 |
| lainwir3d | knowing they will have my ip with my ssh server using this password | 14:29 |
| the_mgt | text passwords suck like hell on non physical keybaards | 14:29 |
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| lainwir3d | "This site could be stealing your password... it's not, but it easily could be. Be careful where you type your password." | 14:30 |
| lainwir3d | hahaha | 14:30 |
| the_mgt | yet another legacy train wreck. I can not type a 30+ character password without errors on a virtual keyboard | 14:30 |
| Teemu | the_mgt: don't use virtual keyboreds | 14:30 |
| Nicd- | the_mgt: tohkbd will save us! | 14:30 |
| Teemu | get physical | 14:30 |
| lainwir3d | \o/ | 14:30 |
| the_mgt | yesterday, I ordered a textblade | 14:30 |
| the_mgt | but wireless keyboards are yet another source of angst | 14:31 |
| the_mgt | and I like my Lastu Case for my Jolla so much, I did not order a TOHKBD | 14:31 |
| Teemu | who said anything about not beinr wired? | 14:31 |
| SK_work | lainwir3d: I entered siomething ressembling my pw | 14:31 |
| the_mgt | Teemu: https://waytools.com/products/textblade/1/trailer this is wireless | 14:32 |
| Nicd- | the_mgt: but the TOHKBD has a lastu back... :) | 14:32 |
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| the_mgt | Nicd-: but if it had the card storage leather thing, it would be one hell of a brick to carry | 14:32 |
| the_mgt | http://lastucase.com/product/lastu-wallet-case-for-jolla-lompakko-wallet-case-cover-suojakuori/ i have one of those | 14:33 |
| Nicd- | I've been thinking about a lastu cover for my laptop... it would look so awesome | 14:34 |
| the_mgt | although I am not really satisfied with the build quality. at least it should be easy to repair. I hope the tablet wrap is a bit tougher | 14:34 |
| the_mgt | logging into the jolla's ssh with rsa key is disabled by default? | 14:36 |
| Nicd- | don't remember but you'd have to add the keys anyway | 14:39 |
| the_mgt | I did and it does not work | 14:40 |
| the_mgt | need to check the config | 14:40 |
| Nicd- | check permissions | 14:40 |
| Nicd- | of authorized_keys | 14:40 |
| Nicd- | needs to be -rw------- | 14:41 |
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| the_mgt | atm, I get connection refused. will try again later | 14:44 |
| Nicd- | check journalctl, it'll have the reason | 14:45 |
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| the_mgt | Nicd-: sshd got killed somehow | 14:52 |
| the_mgt | and yes, it was a permission thing, thanks | 14:52 |
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| cityoflights2 | thanks anYc | 14:58 |
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| ballock | I intend to extend the built-in btrfs with an sdcard | 17:02 |
| ballock | I know.this makes the sd non-detachable | 17:02 |
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| ballock | but I am wondering if it will boot (is the sd initialized early enough during boot) and if theres no bugs in the device kernel | 17:04 |
| Stskeeps | it takes a bit too long and you'd need to convince the initrd | 17:04 |
| ballock | oh, you tried that? | 17:05 |
| ballock | rootwait ? | 17:05 |
| ballock | or the driver is in initrd? | 17:05 |
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| ballock | anyway, I was going to ask about recovery mode | 17:08 |
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| ballock | cause I.didn't want to unlock the bootloader just in case | 17:09 |
| ballock | all of it is in initrd and I should be possible to unl8ck it even with borked btrfs? | 17:09 |
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| ballock | ping? | 17:23 |
| Stskeeps | it's in the initrd the mounting happens nowadays afaik | 17:23 |
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| coderus | hello, can i somehow create online bank account in finland if i'm not from finland? | 18:15 |
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| mdxth | coderus, http://www.suomenpankki.fi/en/suomen_pankki/faq/pages/muut_asiat.aspx | 18:19 |
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| Miski | oh, it's a typo in that faq. I spent a while staring at "The Federation of Finnish Services" and thinking it's a really odd translation of "Finanssialan keskusliitto", but the correct translation is "The Federation of Finnish Financial Services" | 18:23 |
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| coderus | mdxth: okay thanks. i have nothing of requires stuff to do it :D | 18:33 |
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| mdxth | coderus, you can always ask :) | 18:35 |
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| pp | it's probably very very difficult if not impossible | 19:37 |
| pp | online banking account -> strong authentication -> they need to see you and your passport (not even drivers license) | 19:38 |
| pp | and there's actually a lot of noise that banks don't want to give the accounts to people with financial problems (despite them being pretty much mandatory for getting stuff done like filing your taxes online) | 19:38 |
| pp | so that probably applies to foreigners as well | 19:39 |
| Mikaela | identity card should probably also work, but I have no idea if those exist outside of Finland | 19:39 |
| Mikaela | I just know that the Finnish identity card is mostly accepted in EU | 19:39 |
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| Aard | coderus: with a russian passport you won't be able to get an _online_ banking account in finland | 20:01 |
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| Aard | you'd need a residence permit here, then you could get a finnish id card for foreigners, and that'd be accepted by the bank | 20:02 |
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| Mikaela | https://www.poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/pages/F082D8AB29097DB5C2256C29002BA66C?opendocument or more specifically https://www.poliisi.fi/poliisi/home.nsf/pages/513603EA7EF737BEC2256C29002BD52D?opendocument on those foreigner ones | 20:03 |
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| Aard | id cards or passports of other EU states meeting the security requirements will work as well (sometimes with additional nudging), but the russian passports don't meet those standards (same for a lot of other passports, like US) | 20:04 |
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| coderus | Aard: expected, thanks | 20:23 |
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| Morgawr | Heyho, I pledged to the indiegogo campaign for a tablet + phone, how do I redeem my phone? | 21:22 |
| Stskeeps | if you don't get an answer from here, contact care at jolla.zendesk.com :) | 21:25 |
| svuorela | how do I redeem my tablet? :) | 21:27 |
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| Morgawr | Stskeeps: thanks | 21:35 |
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