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| HtheB | guys, somehow my new Jolla is bricked | 00:28 |
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| HtheB | it was downloading the essential apps, while it was also downloading the firmware upgrade | 00:28 |
| HtheB | but it kept me giving "Jolla Store errors" | 00:29 |
| coderus | jolla store errors doesnt mean bricked :D | 00:29 |
| HtheB | so, I rebooted, and now it shows me the Jolla logo, then a black screen. It looks like the device IS on, because when I try to turn the phone back on again, it actually turns itself off (red led) | 00:29 |
| coderus | ah, bricked :D | 00:30 |
| HtheB | coderus: if you get a blackscreen, and it doesnt do anything anymore: that is kinda like a brick dont you think> :) | 00:30 |
| HtheB | heheh | 00:30 |
| coderus | fill bug about bricked if downloading the essential apps, while it was also downloading the firmware upgrade | 00:30 |
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| HtheB | https://together.jolla.com/question/77668/bug-brand-new-jolla-bricked-while-downloading-essential-apps-and-fw-upgrade/ | 00:36 |
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| HtheB | coderus: any idea if there is some way to flash the phone? :/ | 00:37 |
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| coderus | HtheB: recovery not working? | 00:39 |
| HtheB | how to enter recovery mode? | 00:39 |
| HtheB | i pressed up, and power on: it vibrates | 00:39 |
| HtheB | then nothing happens | 00:39 |
| coderus | https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202208763-How-do-I-use-the-Recovery-Mode- | 00:39 |
| HtheB | pressing down and power button: will show jolla logo only | 00:39 |
| HtheB | ah ok | 00:40 |
| HtheB | let me check it | 00:40 |
| coderus | read article first | 00:40 |
| coderus | you need to telnet to device when in recovery mode | 00:40 |
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| HtheB | LOL! Google Galaxy Nexuys ADB Interface ... | 00:42 |
| HtheB | Nexus* | 00:42 |
| coderus | LOL | 00:43 |
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| HtheB | oh f*ck my life | 00:45 |
| HtheB | this sht doesn't work on XP :( ? | 00:45 |
| coderus | install https://coderus.openrepos.net/flasher/Nokia%20EthernetRNDIS%20based%20Device/ | 00:46 |
| coderus | probably it will help | 00:46 |
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| coderus | but yeah, you will need to connect to telnet to fix your phone | 00:46 |
| coderus | using linux live cd/usb is best option | 00:46 |
| HtheB | putty works but the drivers was the problem | 00:46 |
| HtheB | let me try your flasher | 00:46 |
| coderus | its not my flasher | 00:47 |
| coderus | its just drivers for ethernet device | 00:47 |
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| HtheB | nope, doesnt work | 00:47 |
| HtheB | :( | 00:47 |
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| HtheB | oh wait | 00:48 |
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| HtheB | i have a jolla driver for xp laying somewhere | 00:48 |
| HtheB | hmm this is weird, I remember that this driver worked for me before | 00:50 |
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| HtheB | lucky i still have my half broken win8 laptop laying around :p | 00:59 |
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| HtheB | coderus: flashed recovery image is too old and does not support phone clearing. | 01:04 |
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| HtheB | no luck | 01:38 |
| HtheB | even after chaning the recovery mode file | 01:38 |
| HtheB | STILL the same error | 01:39 |
| HtheB | Yeah I already tried, it gives me the following error: Flashed recovery image is too old and does not support phone clearing. I already followed this: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/202208763#31 But still the same problem. I just find out that this guy had the same problem like me but there is no solution on it :( https://together.jolla.com/question/74278/black-screen-after-switching-on/ HtheB (13 mins ago)edit | 01:39 |
| HtheB | (oops, wrong paste) | 01:39 |
| HtheB | Flashed recovery image is too old and does not support phone clearing. <<< correct paste :p | 01:39 |
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| Mikaela | ebook adventures: I didn't find where to change FBReader's directory to sdcard easily, so I made symlink from there to my books directory and that worked. | 08:39 |
| Mikaela | The hardware volume keys don't work to change the page unlike settings say, but page is changed by clicking the part of screen where you want to move. I think I will survive with this and I think it said that it's alpha version or something. | 08:39 |
| Mikaela | now if I will find bookmarks somewhere, I am happy | 08:40 |
| * Stskeeps studies http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/castar-augmented-reality,3742-3.html | 08:41 | |
| Mikaela | it remembers the page though | 08:41 |
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| tbr | hmm, no native fbreader yet? | 08:46 |
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| Mikaela | there is alpha or something | 08:51 |
| Mikaela | http://fbreader.org/content/jolla | 08:51 |
| Mikaela | (which I am actually talking about) | 08:51 |
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| tbr | ah, somehow I thought you were talking about the android version. probably because of the buttons | 08:53 |
| Mikaela | I was complaining the Android version yesterday | 08:53 |
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| sebsebseb | hi | 08:58 |
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| Mikaela | hi | 09:00 |
| sebsebseb | Mikaela: hi | 09:00 |
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| LordChavez83 | hello | 10:16 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 10:17 |
| LordChavez83 | does someone know when toh keyboard will be available for those who couldnt back the funding? | 10:21 |
| sebsebseb | no, but I would like one of those :) | 10:22 |
| Nicd- | no info, also could be never | 10:22 |
| tbr | LordChavez83: there was some small quantity on sale | 10:22 |
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| tbr | but if those ran out, tough luck | 10:22 |
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| cybette | http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/TOHKBD2-PRE-ORDER/p/42141285/category=9141090 | 10:23 |
| LordChavez83 | tbr: okay need to check on thaz | 10:23 |
| cybette | 165 available | 10:23 |
| LordChavez83 | awesome ty | 10:23 |
| tbr | be quick! | 10:23 |
| sebsebseb | oh keyboards available :) | 10:23 |
| Nicd- | ooh, they have added new it seems | 10:23 |
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| sebsebseb | the keyboard | 10:26 |
| sebsebseb | is also the case? | 10:26 |
| * sebsebseb only got Jolla phone recently so... | 10:26 | |
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| sebsebseb | tbr: what's the backplate and | 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | yeah | 10:27 |
| zutto | is the estimated delivery still in feb? | 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | what does it mean by backplate | 10:27 |
| sebsebseb | on that link? | 10:27 |
| Nicd- | zutto: it never was in february I think. should be april/may | 10:27 |
| zutto | hmh | 10:28 |
| zutto | i wonder where i remember that february from | 10:28 |
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| tbr | sebsebseb: the tohkbd2 is a back-cover with exposed contacts and a separate keyboard unit that latches on through magnets. the keyboard itself has a backside that can be chosen. | 10:29 |
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| sebsebseb | what's the backplate on the link? the back of the thing? | 10:29 |
| tbr | there is this combination choser thing, where you can try how the combinations look like | 10:29 |
| Nicd- | http://funkyotherhalf.com/ | 10:30 |
| Nicd- | colour picker for tohkbd | 10:30 |
| Nicd- | sebsebseb: ^ | 10:30 |
| tbr | yes, use that | 10:30 |
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| sebsebseb | uh slow stuff on computer, but wil be on that soon | 10:33 |
| sebsebseb | known about keyboard for a whie, but yes I need one for sure as a touch typist :) | 10:36 |
| mornfall | as if touchtyping had anything with anything :P | 10:37 |
| sebsebseb | mornfall: what do you mean? | 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | and it's so slow to use a touch screen for messages I find | 10:39 |
| mornfall | the phone keyboard is thumbs-operated | 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | 16 years or so touch typing experience | 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | mornfall: oh | 10:39 |
| mornfall | obviously | 10:39 |
| sebsebseb | oh it' not like a real keyboard then | 10:39 |
| tbr | sebsebseb: did you ever use a device this size with a keyboard? | 10:40 |
| mornfall | good luck fitting 10 fingers onto a ~4" device | 10:40 |
| sebsebseb | ,but using thumbs on a keyboard would probably still be better than just on the screen with fingers | 10:40 |
| tbr | sebsebseb: I'm a touch typist myself, but it's a very different experience and you won't get all the 2x4 fingers on the thing, etc | 10:40 |
| LordChavez83 | i did on my old Motorola, and i kinda miss thst keyboard. | 10:40 |
| tbr | still it's a very nice and tactile thing to have a keyboard | 10:41 |
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| * tbr looks at his 9300, N900, N950 and tohkbd2-proto | 10:41 | |
| tbr | ah, look who's here on cue | 10:41 |
| sebsebseb | I thought it was just some attachment thing that would give a small, but more real keyboard | 10:42 |
| LordChavez83 | it is | 10:42 |
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| sebsebseb | yeah, but not like a computer keyboard? | 10:42 |
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| LordChavez83 | in terms of size it isnt. but you got all the important keys as well as up,down,left,right keys. | 10:45 |
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| LordChavez83 | it will make my life a way easier.. even tho it'll make my jolla thicker and heavier | 10:46 |
| LordChavez83 | but you still can connect some of those tablet keyboards via bluetooth i suppose | 10:46 |
| LordChavez83 | tbr: do you experience higher battery drain whilr using the proto? | 10:47 |
| tbr | sebsebseb: it has a very similar layout, but if you never used a keyboard that's smaller than a PC keyboard, then it's hard to explain | 10:47 |
| tbr | LordChavez83: nothing noticeable, also the keyboard is most of the time detached, so the only possible drain would be in the level shifter and I doubt that | 10:48 |
| Nicd- | sebsebseb: did you even look at the pictures? :D | 10:48 |
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| lordchavez83-bas | checkin | 10:50 |
| LordChavez83 | ill switch to my computer | 10:50 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, huhu :) do you find a bit of time to check the icq part ? :) | 12:06 |
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| coderus | cvp_: no | 12:11 |
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| cvp_ | coderus, ok :( | 12:16 |
| coderus | very busy after arriving to home | 12:16 |
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| dr_gogeta86 | hi guys | 12:56 |
| sebsebseb | dr_gogeta86: hi | 12:56 |
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| LordChavez83Base | hi | 12:58 |
| sebsebseb | LordChavez83Base: hi | 12:59 |
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| tadzik | hm, Wesnoth for android is quite well done and runs quite well | 14:08 |
| tadzik | I wonder what would it take to have it natively, perhaps another gsoc project :) | 14:08 |
| sebsebseb | tadzik: what's Wesnotch? | 14:09 |
| Acce | sebsebseb: a nice turn based strategy game | 14:10 |
| sebsebseb | oh ok | 14:10 |
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| chem|st | eleroux: you did replace call-ui tag with call-app tag? | 14:25 |
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| chem|st | eleroux: I just point to phone-app for now this seems to be messed up completly | 14:28 |
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| eleroux | chem|st: I didn't touch this tag, let me check | 14:32 |
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| eleroux | chem|st: https://together.jolla.com/questions/77726/revisions/ you retagged? | 14:35 |
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| eleroux | chem|st: call-ui tag is authorized so you should be able to use it | 14:36 |
| chem|st | yes, as it is the only post with call-ui | 14:37 |
| chem|st | all other call-ui posts are not tagged with call-ui, but some are call-app (there is no such thing as call-app) | 14:37 |
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| chem|st | eleroux: so this is gonna be about naming conventions... | 14:40 |
| eleroux | chem|st: indeed. If you just have a search with call for tags it's obvious we should clean-up ;) | 14:42 |
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| eleroux | chem|st: see https://together.jolla.com/question/17364/cleaning-up-together-please-join/ | 14:43 |
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| chem|st | eleroux: well I know about these, but I am not willing to spend ours of retagging again, without bulk editing this is hours of work | 14:44 |
| eleroux | chem|st: a little at a time is pretty manageable ;) | 14:45 |
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| chem|st | eleroux: yes, I stick to the first 3 pages at most^^ | 14:52 |
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| Mikaela | it also seems that fbreader doesn't keep screen open while not in charget so I must probably find the setting somewhere else or I cannot even finish current page | 17:07 |
| Mikaela | oh, that was easy. Settings --> Display --> Power off the display in 15 seconds. I will test minute. | 17:07 |
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| coderus | New SailfishOS Browser Nightly build is on OpenRepos! https://openrepos.net/content/sailfishbrowsernightly/sailfish-browser-nightly | 18:10 |
| Scelt | coderus: is that an official nighlty? | 18:11 |
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| coderus | Scelt: read description | 18:16 |
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| coderus | I added some rootkits and malware | 18:17 |
| coderus | also it steals all your passwords and send to my virtual server in china | 18:17 |
| Scelt | I thought more about stability | 18:18 |
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| coderus | no idea how much it stable | 18:18 |
| coderus | but imho it's more stable than current :) | 18:19 |
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| coderus | because of new engine :) | 18:19 |
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| faenil | coderus, new engine? they moved away from gecko31? | 18:20 |
| coderus | faenil: 31 now | 18:22 |
| faenil | update9 and 10 was already 31 wasn't it | 18:22 |
| coderus | sure | 18:22 |
| faenil | ok | 18:22 |
| coderus | engine is not only gecko | 18:23 |
| coderus | its qtmozembed also :) | 18:23 |
| coderus | situ have xulrunner 35 if you want to be on the edge :D | 18:23 |
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| faenil | ok ;) | 18:30 |
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| faenil | no I was curious about gecko as there were compilation issues with gcc4.8 on gecko31 ;) | 18:30 |
| faenil | got to go, cya | 18:30 |
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| Mikaela | the browser didn't feel so nice, so I could probably try that | 19:05 |
| Mikaela | nice, no need to find it from warehouse, because it's on top | 19:06 |
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| Mikaela | the browser doesn't seem to start after installing that. I will try rebooting. | 19:12 |
| coderus | yeah it might require rebooting or /sbin/ldconfig | 19:12 |
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| Mikaela | now it started | 19:15 |
| coderus | cool :) | 19:15 |
| Mikaela | I think my new homepage is http://ekami.fi/opiskelijalle/lounaslista (school lunch list) as I must probably use something as homepage and I don't like the animation starting playing on jolla.com always when I open browser. | 19:17 |
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| keithzg | Mikaela: Could always make your homepage something local, so you could make it as barebones as you want (<html><head></head><body>Hi!</body></html>) and it'd load pretty instantaneously ;) | 20:01 |
| Mikaela | but captive portals so it must be something remote :( | 20:01 |
| Mikaela | or how does jolla check if there is captive portal? | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | it contacts ipv4/ipv6.jolla.com | 20:02 |
| Mikaela | does it even perform the check without me having to wonder about it and I can use local one? | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | outside browser | 20:02 |
| Mikaela | ah nice, then I can probably do local one. | 20:02 |
| Mikaela | do I need to install some httpd or does it understand file:///? | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | should understand file:/// | 20:02 |
| Stskeeps | it's gecko engine | 20:02 |
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| Mikaela | ok | 20:04 |
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| kimmoli | iekku: ping, first now in QA-queue... if there is questions, tester can ping/query me here (preferred if possible?) | 20:45 |
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| HtheB | yo all | 21:00 |
| Mr_K__ | hi | 21:00 |
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| HtheB | coderus, you around? | 21:01 |
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| HtheB | I have an idea about multitasking witih android apps | 21:03 |
| coderus | HtheB: sure | 21:03 |
| HtheB | as you know, when you minimize android apps, it will freeze it | 21:04 |
| Mr_K__ | my first one reboot every five seconds. Any idea ? | 21:04 |
| HtheB | but if you open event view, it wont pause or freeze the app. Even if you go into a sub menu from the eventviewer | 21:05 |
| HtheB | So technically, it should be possible to run android apps in the background | 21:05 |
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| coderus | probably | 21:06 |
| HtheB | this is handy for apps like Youtube, playing in the background, or youtube continue playing when you lcok the screen (handy for music) | 21:06 |
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| HtheB | just wanted to know if such thing could actually be possible or not | 21:07 |
| coderus | no idea :) | 21:07 |
| HtheB | well, you're one of the biggest sailfish os gurus... | 21:08 |
| HtheB | if you don't know, then who would? :( | 21:08 |
| HtheB | who will * | 21:08 |
| coderus | i'm just busy now | 21:08 |
| coderus | need to watch som tv shows with my gf | 21:08 |
| coderus | and then i can check it :D | 21:08 |
| HtheB | oh hahhah :D | 21:09 |
| HtheB | no prob! | 21:09 |
| HtheB | say hi to her :) | 21:09 |
| HtheB | which show is it anyway? :p | 21:09 |
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| coderus | The Flash :D | 21:09 |
| HtheB | ugh, dont mention anything about the word "Flash" :D :D : D:D | 21:10 |
| HtheB | got a trauma since last night :D | 21:10 |
| coderus | via DC Comics | 21:10 |
| HtheB | yeah, it's a good one :) | 21:11 |
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| keithzg | Heh finally doing the Jolla Tablet UX questionnaire, didn't read the examples for "What are the top 5 local applications and services for you?" at first and so I was thinking "hmm, I guess bash, wget, python..." | 22:28 |
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| r0kk3rz | keithzg: yeah but you're already going to get all of that | 22:30 |
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| r0kk3rz | so you say things that maybe you wont get, or arent already available | 22:31 |
| keithzg | r0kk3rz: Oh, yeah, I know. Hence why I've listed "Environment Canada weather", because honestly any other weather service is kindof uselessly inaccurate where I live (reminds me I need to buckle down and actually write a plugin for MeeCast for Environment Canada one of these days) | 22:33 |
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| r0kk3rz | keithzg: by the time you get the tablet jolla might have their own weather thingie | 22:34 |
| r0kk3rz | they mentioned it in their iteration planning announcement | 22:34 |
| keithzg | r0kk3rz: They were saying Forca, right? I seem to remember something about that in the 2015 plan | 22:34 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah | 22:34 |
| keithzg | I dunno I have a soft spot for OMWeather/MeeCast. | 22:35 |
| keithzg | I hope they have it so arbitrary apps can plug in as the providers. | 22:35 |
| r0kk3rz | would be silly if they didnt | 22:35 |
| r0kk3rz | but meecast works pretty well tbh | 22:35 |
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| keithzg | Yeah, as an app I really like it, I just need to write the Canada provider for it so it's a tad more accurate for me personally. I loved how it was able to replace the dumb AccuWeather widget on the N9. | 22:36 |
| keithzg | The provider behind AccuWeather was, ironically, *really* not accurate. | 22:38 |
| keithzg | And as a bearded hippie I hated the ads ;) | 22:38 |
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| keithzg | The whole active-covers thing does make MeeCast already pretty simple to glance at, but yeah, I hope the sailors find it as obvious as we do to make sure the upcoming lockscreen widget can be run from other apps! (hint hint!) | 22:40 |
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| HtheB | coderus: how was it?:D | 22:47 |
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| coderus | HtheB: cool :D | 22:56 |
| HtheB | DC comics <3 :) | 22:56 |
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| HtheB | yo dirkvl | 22:56 |
| HtheB | dirkvl_: | 22:57 |
| HtheB | coderus: do you have any android app on your jolla? | 22:57 |
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| dirkvl_ | hello? | 23:04 |
| dirkvl_ | HtheB: | 23:04 |
| HtheB | sup | 23:04 |
| dirkvl_ | que pasa | 23:04 |
| dirkvl_ | or resolved already? | 23:05 |
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| HtheB | yeah | 23:05 |
| HtheB | the files were just located at /usr/share/ambiance/ | 23:06 |
| HtheB | copied all mp3 | 23:06 |
| HtheB | mp3's* to /usr/share/sounds/stereo/ | 23:06 |
| HtheB | now i can mix my ringtones with different OH's :p | 23:06 |
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| coderus | HtheB: a lot | 23:12 |
| HtheB | have you tried out my method already to see whats happening? | 23:13 |
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| HtheB | soon we will have dirkvl____________________ | 23:16 |
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| coderus | no, i'm busy fighting with windows in virtualbox :D | 23:22 |
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| coderus | installed qtcreator to compile my test project for windows, accidentaly clicked on designer button and everything exploded :D | 23:25 |
| coderus | it looks like this now: | 23:25 |
| coderus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/9826372 | 23:25 |
| coderus | and both vm and virtualbox manage not responding anymore :D | 23:25 |
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| HtheB | auch | 23:27 |
| coderus | saving all critical data and will reboot then | 23:28 |
| coderus | and will move to vmware now :D | 23:28 |
| HtheB | vmware <3 | 23:28 |
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| dunp | how about kvm? | 23:36 |
| lachs0r | so why does the SDK insist on running a VM instead of letting me specify any host to connect to? | 23:36 |
| dunp | qemu+kvm<3 | 23:37 |
| lachs0r | I’d use kvm or lxc if it would let me | 23:37 |
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| lachs0r | or rather: why is it not using libvirt | 23:38 |
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