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ursWhat do I have to do if a .ogg file appears in the Media App, but is not selectable as a ringtone?00:05
urs(it is in the ~/Music folder)00:05
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Stskeepstbr: i think the current idea is steak06:23
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tbrStskeeps: sounds nice, we need to make reservations though to avoid problems.06:32
Stskeepsnod06:33
Stskeepslbt has business card at least06:33
* Stskeeps is a bit hungover after his 1 day postponed newyears eve06:34
Stskeepsdecided to get vaccinations for various asian diseases on 31st and the moment needle went in, they said no alcohol for 24 hours..06:35
tbrugh06:45
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Stskeepswhich made for a pretty dry new years eve :)06:49
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pp_re finnish bars & cigs, not all sell them, it's not financially worthwhile (but makes customers happy, sure)06:57
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lbtmornings all - yes, I phoned about a reservation and then emailed details as requested - not heard back yet10:46
lbtI'm asking about numbers and price options - the default group thing is €50 iirc so it may be nice to have a lower priced selection10:47
phdeswerlbt: ping me if you need some help with it (if language is an issue for example)10:49
lbtty10:49
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locusflbt: if its not too late, maybe ask about the accessibility :) ?10:58
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lbtlocusf: will do - from recollection it was good11:06
locusflbt: ok thanks :)11:06
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faenilcan anyone confirm this? https://twitter.com/faenil/status/55099221788068659212:31
gogetafaenil, not for me12:31
faenil?12:31
gogetawith u9 i need to switch manually with wpa2 aps12:31
faenilok, so you confirm12:31
gogetawith u10 no problem12:31
faenilah12:31
faenilno, wait, I mean things like12:32
gogetavodafone station 2 and asus12:32
faenilyou get into wifi range, phone in your pocket12:32
gogetawhere tested12:32
gogetawith u10 like a sharm12:32
faeniland it autoconnects12:32
faenilwithout doubletapping12:32
gogetaI've got also faster auth12:32
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gogetaworksforme12:32
faenilI don't mean that it you have to connect manually, I mean that you have to switch the display on for it to autoconnect12:33
faenil-it12:33
gogetain my pocket12:33
faenili.e. if you keep it in your pocket it won't autoconnect12:33
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gogetaworks for me12:33
TemeVfaenil, it seems to me that it connects when I unlock the phone for the first time, but I haven't checked if it is just UI that's updated with delay or does it actually connect just after unlock12:33
TemeV*first time after arriving wifi range12:33
faenilTemeV: ok, so you confirm my opinion12:33
TemeVyeah12:34
faenilyes, that's what I see as well TemeV12:34
gogetafaenil, at my house in sicly wifi works into the parking lots12:34
gogetabut not on stairs ...12:34
TemeVIf I remember I can check today when I go home when does the phone actually connect12:34
gogetai got wifi in auto12:35
faenilit always connects when I switch the display on, in my case12:35
gogetanot in mine12:35
gogetabut logging is required12:35
gogeta to be sure12:35
TemeVhow long does the phone have to be in my pocket to go deepest sleep mode?12:36
TemeVor is there even different sleep modes?12:36
faenilI think a couple of mins12:36
TemeVok12:37
faenilnot sure though12:38
faenilreal tests are better :P12:38
faenilmaybe lpotter can will tell us more when he's back from holidays in a few days12:38
TemeVI was just thinking if should not using for ircing during my bus trip home, to make sure the phone is sleeping12:38
faenils/cab//12:39
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faenilTemeV: I don't have a data plan at the moment, fwiw, so mobile data is disabled12:39
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TemeVI do, so I haven't really bothered on checking when it connects. If it's not in the wifi its connected to mobile data12:41
TemeVbut at least chaning from wifi to mobile data works better12:41
TemeVcouple of updates back I couldn't keep wifi enabled because quite often it didn't connect to either when I left home12:42
gogetaTemeV, i think if you got some android service and dataplan ... phone neversleeps12:46
TemeVI have whatsapp and telegram running all the time, but at least the phone only consumes like 5% of battery during the night so I'd guess it sleeps quite well12:48
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faenilTemeV: same here, whatsapp and telegram12:50
faenilwant to talk about whatsapp? It's broken since Update10 XD12:50
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faenildo you also have to close and reopen it to get new messages?12:50
faenilevery few minutes12:51
TemeVworks fine for me12:52
TemeVwell... as fine as before that is12:52
faenilyeah...I found another user on facebook's group with same problem as mine12:53
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faenilwhatsapp stops receiving messages (and it fails to send new ones) until you close/open it again12:53
TemeVoh, strange12:53
faenil(so, I'm not making these issues up :D )12:53
faenilI wonder if it's again related to not having a data plan12:53
TemeVhave you tried reinstalling, restarting dalvik etc usual tricks?12:54
faenilnot reinstalling, restarting for sure, I've had this issue since update112:54
faenil1012:54
gogetafaenil, me too12:55
gogetabut is not only a u10 problem12:55
faenilgogeta: you have the whatsapp issue?12:55
gogetayep12:55
faenilu10 only here...12:55
gogetabut wasn't comeout with u1012:55
gogetabut u10 + whatsupp upgrade12:55
faenilsure, that could be as well, though I don't think I have updated whatsapp since u1012:56
TemeVand you have up to date version of whatsapp?12:56
faenilnope12:56
faenilI have 2.11.42812:56
faenilI didn't update it to be sure to be able to reproduce this bug12:57
faeniluntil a sailor listens to what I have to say XD12:57
faenil(worst case: it could be that this particular whatsapp version triggers a bug in aliendalvik's connection handling or something)12:58
gogetafaenil, someone of myriad need to stay on togheter12:59
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gogetabut have native is the way to go12:59
gogetathats all12:59
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gogetauntill mitakulu works ... i got battery drain but no problems at all13:00
gogetanow with13:00
gogetatelegram + whatsapp + google servicies always on13:00
gogetaif i need another android service13:01
gogetai think to stop use jolla as main phone13:01
gogetaI'm fighting to port nemomobile on my gwatch13:01
gogetafor this reason13:01
gogetathe need to attract more devs13:02
TemeVI hate having separate apps for every im anyway, no matter if its native or android13:02
TemeVtelepathy ftw13:02
gogetai'm ?13:03
r0kk3rzpfft telepathy, this matrix thing is looking pretty good13:03
lachs0rI have to rely on skype for work… set up bitlbee so I can use an IRC client because IRC clients have usable UIs figured out13:03
r0kk3rzopen protocol, open federated servers13:03
TemeVgogeta: im = instan messenger, or what do you mean?13:03
TemeV*instant13:03
r0kk3rzdesigned for lossy mobile connections unlike xmpp13:04
lachs0ronly problem is that skype’s dbus api is buggy as hell and doesn’t send the first message in any chat window13:04
gogetaTemeV, i write it wrong13:04
gogetasorry13:04
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gogetabut everything feels like alien13:04
gogetai need installed13:05
gogeta5 android apps13:05
gogetaand 1 year ago just 313:05
gogetahangout or some google contacts are avaiable via xmpp13:05
gogetafacebook via xmpp was unreliable ( i erased my facebook account )13:06
gogetatelegram no one since yesterday created a valid client for sailfish13:06
gogetawhatsapp for their antibot antiunofficialclient polic13:06
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gogetaskype for working reasons ...13:07
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gogetamore time will pass  more the situation gets worse, especially when the services keep you tied to beside closed apis13:08
lachs0rand here I’m thinking about uninstalling aliendalvik because I don’t actually need any android apps13:09
TemeVwhatsapp telegram and maps, thats what I use from android13:09
gogetahere maps and waze ... sorry i missed that :-D13:10
gogetai still remember waze on n913:10
faenilbasically all the most used apps xD13:11
gogetaulgy like no other but work and was native13:11
gogetafaenil, waze is google13:11
gogetathey made wp version due popular and microsoft demand13:11
gogetainstagram same thing13:11
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gogetainstagram for wp is 6tag rebranded as instagram13:12
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TemeVfaenil: I just came home, didn't touch my phone and now it shows up in the DHCP client list15:05
TemeVand glance screen also shows its connected15:06
TemeVso atleast this time it did connect in my pocket :)15:06
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the_mgtgood evening18:43
Stskeepsevening18:44
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the_mgtanybody tried the hardware adaption kit with a Motorola Atrix 4G?18:44
Stskeepsprobably more of a #sailfishos-porters question18:44
the_mgtah, ok. thanks18:45
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