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| thp | salyavin: gpodder.net support is probably the next gap to be filled in the gpodder 4 feature list, next release will only have basic sleep timer and playlist support, though. | 07:04 |
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| salyavin | Hi thp, thank you so much. gpodder.net support is nice but can certainly wait. Lack of playlist drives me crazy that is what I really needed now. Thank you for working on it. | 07:21 |
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| ruskie | and mom's jolla ordered yay | 07:59 |
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| salyavin | Nice, hope she likes it. | 08:02 |
| ruskie | well she had like 2 worth of hands on time with mine a couple of days ago | 08:03 |
| ruskie | erm 2 hours | 08:03 |
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| japa-fi_ | Just got a second jolla (for my dad). His UI has differences which I don't even know that I've set. on my phone, pulling down from the lock screen there is only one option: "silence sounds". Oh his, there is setting, camera, phone, silence sounds | 08:33 |
| japa-fi_ | How can I get the extra items to my phone? | 08:33 |
| tadzik | it's enableable in settings somewhere | 08:34 |
| tadzik | since one of the last updates it's not the default, but it stays there if you used it before | 08:34 |
| Nicd- | settings -> system -> shortcuts | 08:35 |
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| japa-fi_ | Ok, thanks | 08:36 |
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| japa-fi_ | Any "must do" thinkgs for non-power user? Already updated the OS, added aptoide store + some basic apps. | 08:39 |
| Nicd- | backups | 08:39 |
| japa-fi_ | backups seem to require memory card. Need to purchase one... | 08:40 |
| japa-fi_ | Can they be scheduled or something. I don't trust my dad's memory | 08:40 |
| jcbjoe_ | what time is it in fineland ? | 08:40 |
| Nicd- | they don't require a memory card but of course it would be better to copy to external memory | 08:40 |
| Nicd- | jcbjoe_: 10:40 | 08:40 |
| jcbjoe_ | am ? | 08:41 |
| Nicd- | japa-fi_: can't be scheduled with the UI atm | 08:41 |
| Nicd- | jcbjoe_: of course, we use 24-hour clock :) | 08:41 |
| jcbjoe_ | wow you guys are husseling and busseling right now while the US is sleeping right ? | 08:41 |
| jcbjoe_ | i should be sleeping right now | 08:41 |
| japa-fi_ | Nicd-, bootmenu with N900 was excellent. I assume this backup just makes copy of the application data, not a backup to recover entire phne | 08:42 |
| Nicd- | jcbjoe_: at work, yeah | 08:42 |
| Nicd- | japa-fi_: afaik it's not a system level backup, just user data | 08:42 |
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| Miski | japa-fi_: https://jolla.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/201804906-How-do-I-make-a-backup-and-restore-it- lists the things included in the backup | 09:08 |
| Miski | there were a couple of things that surprised me, like for example it backs up MMS messages, but apparently not pictures/music/other media in the MMS messages | 09:09 |
| warfare | anyone here that can me help getting started with the sailfish-sdk on macosx? I'd like to rebuild gpodder from sources. | 09:09 |
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| warfare | Thanks, got it working. | 09:20 |
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| ruskie | hmm I've noticed i keep switching ambiances a lot on my jolla... just because I like all of them for some reason hehe | 09:53 |
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| Waitee | i rarely switch ambiances | 10:00 |
| Waitee | i mainly just use a sea view ambience i made in the summer | 10:01 |
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| chem|st | cybette: thanks for letting me know, something seemed off, just wanted to let you know | 10:06 |
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| cybette | chem|st: nod, it's a valid concern, thanks for pointing it out :) | 10:15 |
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| chem|st | well you already knew that the counter is buggy^^ | 10:25 |
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| chem|st | Miski: that sounds plain dumb... what do I need the text of an mms message... it is the media you send mms for in the first place | 10:38 |
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| Miski | chem|st: yeah, I agree | 11:07 |
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| Shihua_ | next moth will have update? | 12:06 |
| Nicd- | what do moths do with updates? | 12:06 |
| Shihua_ | sorry,month | 12:07 |
| Shihua_ | my | 12:07 |
| Nicd- | well, I sure hope it comes out next month | 12:07 |
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| Shihua_ | en,will have lance screen? | 12:09 |
| Nicd- | the phone already has glance screen | 12:09 |
| Nicd- | just has to be enabled on the command line | 12:10 |
| Nicd- | haven't heard that it would be getting an official setting in the next update | 12:10 |
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| Shihua_ | I know throught terminal.But I want offical's that | 12:11 |
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| Shihua_ | In China,so many functions is troublesome. | 12:13 |
| Shihua_ | So i hope jolla do something for chinese user. | 12:14 |
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| Shihua_ | input mrthod make me troublesome. | 12:16 |
| Shihua_ | just a little . | 12:16 |
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| Shihua_ | the lexison is incomplete | 12:19 |
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| chem|st | Nicd-: is LPM in any way reliable? I'd think it will cost a lot of battery | 13:00 |
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| Nicd- | it doesn't eat battery that much because it's not always on | 13:00 |
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| xehbit | LPM ? | 13:11 |
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| flux | hmm, I didn't remember enabling glance screen from command line | 13:13 |
| flux | (and Jolla doesn't have really a low-power-mode-capable display like n9 did) | 13:14 |
| flux | it was a great feature, even though quite underutilized :/ | 13:14 |
| Jope_ | you need oled for that.. | 13:15 |
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| flux | yep | 13:15 |
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| Jope | I'm not that excited about oled myself.. it looks nice when it's new but they suffer from burn in problems | 13:16 |
| flux | the only downside of the display as far as I can see was its pentile pixel arrangement.. possibly cost as well. | 13:16 |
| Jope | hated the low res pentile as well, yes | 13:16 |
| Jope | I want my pixels square :-D | 13:16 |
| flux | aren't there non-pentile oled displays for mobiles? | 13:16 |
| flux | with Memory In Pixel | 13:17 |
| Jope | I'm not sure.. but thinking about the more modern samsung devices, the dot pitch is so small that the pentile doesn't irritate me as much | 13:17 |
| Jope | my eyes are just too sharp for the n9 display | 13:17 |
| flux | I suppose pentile is great for natural images, less so for computer-generated | 13:17 |
| Jope | could be, yes.. | 13:17 |
| flux | it's like hardware-jpeg.. :-) | 13:17 |
| flux | or analogue jpeg | 13:18 |
| coderus | New RandomKeypad patch: http://pic.twitter.com/9easTji2Un | 13:25 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: again i did see that the girl has boner | 13:32 |
| Jope | quite a stainless steel one too | 13:32 |
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| Nicd- | xehbit: what we call LPM is the glance screen in jolla | 13:37 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: how do you disable that sneakpeek notice? | 13:42 |
| Nicd- | turn off the LPM mode | 13:43 |
| flux | "LPM" by virtue of having dim backlight and use it only for a short time.. not sure if I can agree with the term ;) | 13:43 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: ok so it is unfinishe^^ | 13:43 |
| Nicd- | chem|st: how so? | 13:43 |
| Nicd- | there's just no UI toggle for it | 13:43 |
| chem|st | Nicd-: no I mean the notice that I have to double tap... | 13:44 |
| Nicd- | oh that, I've never seen it | 13:44 |
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| Nicd- | so I guess it's autodisabled after a while like all other help notices | 13:44 |
| Nicd- | at least I don't remember seeing it but maybe it was there for a few times and I just don't remember | 13:45 |
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| chem|st | ah yeah it is gone after a couple of times... | 13:47 |
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| tadzik | coderus: that's a pretty cool idea | 13:50 |
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| kimmoli | Paint 0.6.6 fix in harbour-store. Just small fix to dave your day. | 13:51 |
| kimmoli | *s | 13:51 |
| coderus | kimmoli: yeah, thanks, it asked for update about hour ago :) | 13:52 |
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| kimmoli | i just noticed that it has been approved | 13:52 |
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| coderus | yeah, lack of email notifications in harbour s***s | 13:55 |
| tadzik | I wonder how mazelock will react to something like 45654 | 13:55 |
| coderus | why the hell this easy feature can't be implemented? | 13:55 |
| coderus | tadzik: normally | 13:56 |
| tadzik | cool | 13:56 |
| coderus | tadzik: it allow you to enter number twice, just not after same number | 13:56 |
| tadzik | fair enough :) | 13:56 |
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| TemeV | coderus: did you try making it a vkb, I mean entering letters | 13:57 |
| TemeV | afaik the backend supports any characters but the ui is lacking | 13:57 |
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| coderus | TemeV: and after removing patch you will get dummy device because you can't enter your code :D | 13:58 |
| tadzik | huh, patchmanager won't start | 13:58 |
| meklu | 157842639 | 13:58 |
| meklu | that's the maze I used to use on android | 13:58 |
| coderus | tadzik: wait for u10, after enabling alphanumeric input more cool lock methods will be available | 13:58 |
| TemeV | coderus: yeah that also crossed my mind, but I toucht it as a poc | 13:59 |
| coderus | meklu: you can go from 3 to 9 in android? | 13:59 |
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| meklu | coderus: yup | 13:59 |
| meklu | you can only use each orb once | 13:59 |
| coderus | TemeV: u10 WILL contain alphanumeric input, it was announced many times | 13:59 |
| tadzik | coderus: I think I am on u10 | 13:59 |
| tadzik | oh, that might be u9 :) | 13:59 |
| tadzik | its 1.1.0.39 | 13:59 |
| TemeV | coderus: oh, I missed that one then | 13:59 |
| coderus | tadzik 1.1.0.x is u9 | 14:00 |
| meklu | no wait, I think I put it there wrong | 14:00 |
| meklu | it was 248751639 | 14:00 |
| tadzik | 1.1.0 is u9: http://i.imgur.com/Un5F2vt.gif | 14:00 |
| coderus | 1.1.1.x will be u10 :) | 14:00 |
| j-doge | tadzik: the jump to 1.1.x.y for u9 was made because of QT version upgrade, even if it does sound a bit illogical :) | 14:01 |
| meklu | or will it be 42.1.720.7900? | 14:01 |
| meklu | you never know with version numbers | 14:01 |
| tadzik | coderus: hmm, how can I debug patchmanager not starting up? | 14:01 |
| * meklu really dislikes the Chrome versioning scheme | 14:01 | |
| tadzik | I tried it with devel-su from the terminal, it showed me some debug things that don't seem to be of significance? | 14:02 |
| meklu | bumping major every five minutes isn't too great | 14:02 |
| tadzik | s/\?$// | 14:02 |
| coderus | tadzik: we have 1.0.6 and 1.0.9 missed, so :) | 14:02 |
| coderus | tadzik: ask SK_work about patchmanager | 14:03 |
| tadzik | ah, right | 14:03 |
| j-doge | coderus: just to clarify, 1.0.6 was missed, 1.0.9 was skipped due to the aforementioned QT upgrade ;) | 14:03 |
| coderus | i'm not using patchmanager and have no patchmanager installed :) | 14:03 |
| coderus | j-doge: it doesnt matter | 14:03 |
| coderus | we just countimg releases | 14:03 |
| coderus | 1.0.0 is u1 | 14:03 |
| coderus | 1.1.1 is u10 | 14:03 |
| j-doge | coderus: I know, I just like arguing semantics :P | 14:03 |
| tadzik | unless you want to convert what you have to the u\d+ notation | 14:04 |
| tadzik | that's inconvenient | 14:04 |
| coderus | tadzik: why? | 14:05 |
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| tadzik | because you need a mapping :) | 14:06 |
| coderus | each release is new "u".++i | 14:06 |
| coderus | it just counting releases | 14:06 |
| coderus | nothing more :) | 14:06 |
| SK_work | tadzik: install jolla-settings-patchmanager as a workaround | 14:06 |
| tadzik | I look at 1.1.0.39, if I don't know what that maps to | 14:06 |
| tadzik | SK_work: oh cute! | 14:07 |
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| chem|st | SK_work: workaround? thought that will be it from now on? | 14:10 |
| tadzik | coderus: aww, the maze doesn't have 0 | 14:10 |
| tadzik | good that the longpress is still there :) | 14:10 |
| tadzik | I mean, the keypad | 14:11 |
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| tadzik | hmm, is there a way to lock device ondemand, if the locktime is set to >0 minutes? | 14:13 |
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| SK_work | chem|st: when I'm not lazily enough to fix the classic app | 14:14 |
| SK_work | that's all | 14:14 |
| tadzik | I like how it's in the settings | 14:14 |
| tadzik | seems like a fitting place | 14:14 |
| * SK_work likes settings plugins :) | 14:15 | |
| kimmoli | tadzik: yes there is | 14:15 |
| tadzik | kimmoli: how do I do that? | 14:15 |
| kimmoli | moment | 14:15 |
| kimmoli | dbus-send --system --type=method_call --dest=org.nemomobile.lipstick /devicelock org.nemomobile.lipstick.devicelock.setState int32:1 & dbus-send --system --dest=com.nokia.mce --print-reply --type="method_call" /com/nokia/mce/request com.nokia.mce.request.req_display_state_off | 14:17 |
| tadzik | :S | 14:17 |
| tadzik | I'll just set the delay to 0 minutes for a moment :P | 14:17 |
| tadzik | thanks though | 14:17 |
| kimmoli | there is also OR package for this; https://openrepos.net/content/htheb/lock-device | 14:18 |
| spiiroin | tadzik: kimmoli: after update10 you can also do: double power key press from display on -> display off + device lock on | 14:18 |
| kimmoli | spiiroin: ik | 14:18 |
| kimmoli | i still use that wip mce | 14:18 |
| tadzik | coderus: hmm. When I change device lock settings, it asks me for my maze for confirmation. Then I lock the device and it shows me the keypad, with long press not changing it into the maze | 14:19 |
| spiiroin | which reminds me, I | 14:19 |
| spiiroin | 've not tagged one pr | 14:19 |
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| coderus | tadzik: you can't change to maze when you switched to keypad, right | 14:22 |
| tadzik | coderus: so once you longpress to keypad it stays there forever, I see | 14:22 |
| tadzik | until the lipstick restart, at least :) | 14:22 |
| tadzik | is that something you can fix without reimplementing the keypad altogether? | 14:23 |
| coderus | tadzik: yeah, i dont want to touch keypad component just to make longtap to maze :) | 14:24 |
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| tadzik | understandable :) | 14:24 |
| tadzik | I'm okay with this, thanks for the patch :) | 14:25 |
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| coderus | currently RandomKeypad PoC patch is just only keypad qml changed. | 14:25 |
| coderus | maze patch have a lot of files changed | 14:25 |
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| tadzik | yeah, I looked at the diff, it's quite massive | 14:25 |
| coderus | of cource it's better to patch whole system and have options to select devicelock method you want | 14:26 |
| tadzik | in an ideal world... :) | 14:26 |
| tadzik | also, where are my pluggable keyboards:P | 14:26 |
| coderus | will thimk about complex devicelock patches for u10 | 14:26 |
| coderus | there are not much possibilities in u9 | 14:27 |
| tadzik | what's the showstopper? | 14:28 |
| coderus | 0-9 | 14:28 |
| tadzik | ah | 14:28 |
| Waitee | hmm, any idea why the notifications twitter crashes | 14:30 |
| Waitee | or how to fix without rebooting | 14:30 |
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| tadzik | hmm, my twitter stopped working a few weeks ago | 14:33 |
| tadzik | updating sign-in creds didn't help | 14:33 |
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| meklu | mine seems to still be working | 14:34 |
| Waitee | mine works fine after reboot | 14:36 |
| Waitee | when the problem occurs it doesnt accept any gestures | 14:36 |
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| Waitee | just shows the top of the list | 14:37 |
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| coderus | oops update10 here: https://together.jolla.com/question/71741/release-notes-software-version-11126-vaarainjarvi/ | 15:07 |
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| tadzik | :o | 15:08 |
| tadzik | what a day | 15:08 |
| Yaniel | wheeee | 15:09 |
| tadzik | oh, my favourite n900 features are back! | 15:09 |
| tadzik | now I can tell both people calling *and* the alarm clock to fuck off by flipping the phone :) | 15:09 |
| tadzik | copypaste is killer too | 15:10 |
| mcfrisk | to update or not, that is the question.. | 15:11 |
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| coderus | eh, need to update ny patches to u10 now :D | 15:14 |
| coderus | well, then i'll release randomkeypad to u10 only :D | 15:15 |
| Armadillo | anyone already got a download? | 15:15 |
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| tadzik | nah | 15:16 |
| tadzik | probably to The First Ones first | 15:16 |
| coderus | Armadillo: sure :D | 15:16 |
| Armadillo | :-/ | 15:16 |
| Armadillo | have a first one, no download yet | 15:16 |
| tadzik | "Moves handwriting engine to background thread to improve performance" | 15:17 |
| tadzik | ...moves what? | 15:17 |
| tadzik | there's a handwriting engine? | 15:17 |
| Stskeeps | yes, in chinese | 15:17 |
| tadzik | ah | 15:18 |
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| mcfrisk | I see the update, but known problems list was 'too short'.. to dare or not.. | 15:19 |
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| Teme | got the download with a first one toh \o/ | 15:24 |
| Tofe | oh, great, an update :) | 15:25 |
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| Scelt | update update update | 15:26 |
| Scelt | mushrooooom | 15:26 |
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| Tofe | I almost got the name contest right -- except the date, of course :p | 15:28 |
| tadzik | grr, after I click "show more bugs" I need to read them all over again, as they'ren mixed up | 15:29 |
| tadzik | or maybe they're just duplicates | 15:29 |
| xfade_ | tadzik: those are the u9 bugs | 15:31 |
| tadzik | ah | 15:31 |
| tadzik | thanks | 15:31 |
| xfade_ | which of course are also important if you come from u8 | 15:31 |
| tadzik | nah, I opted-in | 15:31 |
| Tofe | A question about btrfs and the updates: do you do a snapshot before each update ? If so, does it take more and more space each time ? | 15:31 |
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| Tofe | (because this time, well, it's 1,5Gb, so I'm interested :) ) | 15:32 |
| stephg | \o/ update | 15:32 |
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| phaeron | Tofe: no snapshots, but you should take backups and copy them to sdcard | 15:35 |
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| Tofe | ok, well I'll copy them to my pc, I don't have any sdcard :) | 15:36 |
| coderus | is recovery fixed in u10? | 15:37 |
| Tofe | coderus: was it broken ? I didn't follow the topic | 15:38 |
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| coderus | yeah, recovery options almost not working and/or even break your device more in previous releases | 15:41 |
| coderus | Stskeeps: ? | 15:41 |
| mcfrisk | first boot, ui feels laggy, switching apps and swiping has twiches on screen, jerky feel | 15:41 |
| phaeron | mcfrisk: aliendalvik dexopt | 15:43 |
| phaeron | will finish after a few mins depending on how many android apps you have | 15:43 |
| mcfrisk | phaeron: so goes away, ok. | 15:43 |
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| mcfrisk | ok, jolla stabilized. Now app startup times seem longer 'cos the busy icon is spinning... | 15:45 |
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| phdeswer | btrfs balance time? | 15:47 |
| mcfrisk | I hope I'll like the double power button to lock feature, lock button used to be a bit unreliable and I'm used to pressing it a few times if there's nothing on screen.. | 15:47 |
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| mcfrisk | and back to patching media player qml to provide sane song lists without playlists... | 15:49 |
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| ilpianista | "Up to date" liar!!!! 1.1.1.26 is out! | 15:49 |
| Tofe | ilpianista: yes, it has been so for many minutes now :) | 15:50 |
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| ilpianista | and still my jolla ignores it :-P | 15:50 |
| xfade_ | ilpianista: then you should have bought your Jolla earlier ;) | 15:51 |
| ilpianista | xfade_: good point | 15:51 |
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| Tofe | Anyway, thanks for the release of this update before christmas :) Now have some good vacations! | 15:54 |
| ilpianista | +1 | 15:54 |
| kimmoli | some bugs to hunt... | 15:56 |
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| disharmonic | hey | 15:56 |
| ilpianista | I guess the changelog includes stuff from update 9, is there a diff (just stuff introduced by u10)? | 15:57 |
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| disharmonic | Has the sailfish utilities app been pulled from the store? Even a search doesn't reveal it | 15:58 |
| xfade_ | ilpianista: that is only u10 | 15:58 |
| xfade_ | ilpianista: the more link goes to u9 | 15:58 |
| ilpianista | xfade_: can't be. See UI changes | 15:58 |
| xfade_ | I see a lot of things, don't make it not true ;) | 15:59 |
| xfade_ | *doesn't | 15:59 |
| ilpianista | disharmonic: I see them, you need u9 | 16:00 |
| xfade_ | disharmonic: which version of the OS are you running? | 16:00 |
| disharmonic | last non beta. i think thats u9 | 16:01 |
| VDVsx | no is u9 | 16:01 |
| ilpianista | last non beta is u8 | 16:01 |
| VDVsx | u8 | 16:01 |
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| coderus | you funny, double typo :D | 16:04 |
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| andybranson | are there any warehouse packages that should be removed before upgrading? i uninstalled zramcfg just to be safe | 16:07 |
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| TMavica | update! | 16:07 |
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| disharmonic | thx. wifi dropped | 16:12 |
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| * gexc-phone just plugged in charger and waiting for receiving update :D | 16:20 | |
| CoderCandy | hmmmm | 16:21 |
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| CoderCandy | update eh? | 16:21 |
| Yaniel | u10 finally | 16:21 |
| Lipevakala_ | Nice, update went smoothly :D | 16:21 |
| Yaniel | yupp | 16:21 |
| CoderCandy | no update for me :( | 16:21 |
| louisdk | Still waiting for the update. Have checked for update | 16:22 |
| gexc-phone | how to free up space :-o | 16:22 |
| Yaniel | are you one of the first ones? | 16:22 |
| * gexc-phone still waiting | 16:22 | |
| CoderCandy | ah, right, no | 16:22 |
| bennypr0fane | when I try to rsync into the Jolla, I often get this: "ssh: connect to host jolla port 22: No route to host", but sometimes it just works - I can't tell why. Ayn ideas? | 16:22 |
| Yaniel | gexc-phone: remove some files from the builtin storage | 16:22 |
| CoderCandy | Didn't have the money during first preorder batch | 16:22 |
| gexc-phone | lol | 16:22 |
| louisdk | bennypr0fane, are you on u10? | 16:22 |
| bennypr0fane | louisdk: no, still 8 | 16:23 |
| phdeswer | bennypr0fane: sometimes when Jolla is asleep things might time out. | 16:23 |
| CoderCandy | So I got mine in the free preorder thibg | 16:23 |
| gexc-phone | maybe I need to ssh into it first | 16:23 |
| CoderCandy | thing* | 16:23 |
| bennypr0fane | phdeswer: how can I make sure rsync server remains active? | 16:23 |
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| gexc-phone | keep the screen up? | 16:23 |
| louisdk | bennypr0fane, you might experience this bug: https://together.jolla.com/question/55992/development-mode-require-reboot-for-ssh-to-work/ which should be fixed on u10. | 16:24 |
| phdeswer | bennypr0fane: Keep the device awake by doing something with it. Not sure. | 16:24 |
| phdeswer | louisdk: that is only on activation of developer mode. | 16:24 |
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| bennypr0fane | phdeswer: ok, I woke it up and now it works | 16:24 |
| phdeswer | bennypr0fane: using usb usually avoids that issue too. (wifi sometimes sleeps quite deeply to save power) | 16:25 |
| bennypr0fane | anyhow, there should be a way to make this unnecessary, no? what about desktop pcs, do you ever have issues getting in while it's asleep? | 16:25 |
| phdeswer | they don't sleep that deeply. | 16:25 |
| bennypr0fane | phdeswer: you mean the connection used by ssh can be usb cable too? But that's not a network link, right? | 16:26 |
| phdeswer | you can compare the sleep with a suspended laptop almost, that will not react either on wifi or network most of the time. | 16:26 |
| phdeswer | bennypr0fane: it is a network link too. | 16:26 |
| phdeswer | Just a bit emulated. | 16:26 |
| bennypr0fane | but needs to be in pc-suite mode for that, right? | 16:27 |
| phdeswer | In use you will not see a difference. And no you need to choose developer mode for USB | 16:27 |
| phdeswer | Is installed when you activate developer mode. | 16:27 |
| bennypr0fane | aaah, I just love it when the photos transfer over smoothly with one simple command | 16:28 |
| bennypr0fane | does anyone else do that with rsync? | 16:28 |
| phdeswer | I just use the MTP with shotwell | 16:29 |
| bennypr0fane | phdeswer: so standard usb connection modes do not give you a network link, just developer mode, yes? | 16:30 |
| phdeswer | bennypr0fane: correct | 16:30 |
| bennypr0fane | thanks! | 16:30 |
| phdeswer | For windows you need to make sure it installs an RNDIS driver, Horndis on OSX, and it magically works in Linux ;) | 16:31 |
| bennypr0fane | Luckily I'm on the magical side of things :-) I guess I'm gonna delete a lot of pictures from phone memory now. I barely have enough space left for u10 | 16:32 |
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| * louisdk is still waiting for u10. Currently on u8 and my Jolla is wearing the first one toh. | 16:35 | |
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| bennypr0fane | Is anyone able to move user files from phone memory to sdcard on the pc, i.e. connected via usb? | 16:37 |
| TMavica | LOL...update auto shutdown. need reset | 16:39 |
| phaeron | bennypr0fane: it should work, but assuming you are using Linux if you have older libmtp it might not work | 16:39 |
| bennypr0fane | phaeron: ...meaning that it'S known to work on newer versions of libmtp? | 16:40 |
| phaeron | bennypr0fane: yes or try jmtpfs | 16:41 |
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| * bennypr0fane is trying to find out about his version of libmtp | 16:42 | |
| bennypr0fane | libmtp9 ver 1.1.6 | 16:43 |
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| phaeron | I have 1.1.8 on my fedora | 16:44 |
| phdeswer | bennypr0fane: or do the same rsync, scp, ... as you would do over wifi | 16:46 |
| bennypr0fane | phaeron: it works for you? | 16:47 |
| phaeron | bennypr0fane: yeah and gvfs-mtp too | 16:51 |
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| bennypr0fane | would you guys know if I can make rsync delete the files from source location if, and only if the transfer was successful? | 16:54 |
| flux | well, di.fm android app audio craps out, as warned by the release notes :/ | 16:55 |
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| stephg | bennypr0fane: do it twice? second time with --delete? | 16:57 |
| stephg | (and an && in there) | 16:57 |
| * bennypr0fane is reading man rsync... | 16:58 | |
| ln- | stephg: afaik rsync doesn't delete from source | 16:58 |
| bennypr0fane | ln-: not by default anyway | 16:59 |
| bennypr0fane | there's this option: --delete-after receiver deletes after transfer, not during | 16:59 |
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| ln- | i think that too means deleting from the destination | 17:00 |
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| bennypr0fane | stephg: --delete delete extraneous files from dest dirs this is not what I had in mind | 17:00 |
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| stephg | so you don't want src and dest to be identical, you want to nuke src if the sync completes successfully? | 17:01 |
| bennypr0fane | stephg: yes. | 17:04 |
| stephg | so && rm ${SRC}/* when it's done? | 17:04 |
| bennypr0fane | stephg: yup, i guess that'll have to do | 17:07 |
| bennypr0fane | you mean if I just append && rm that makes sure rm only starts after the transfer is complete? | 17:08 |
| stephg | well if rsync does sensible exit codes | 17:09 |
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| stephg | rsync <whatever you're syncing wherever> && rm -r ${src}/whatever will work | 17:10 |
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| bennypr0fane | for the first run I can just use mv, but If I'm gonna do the same later on, with lots of files already present at source, rsync is probably safer | 17:10 |
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| stephg | bennypr0fane: well mv is probably sensible yeah | 17:12 |
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| salyavin | oh update available on my 1st one | 17:18 |
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| Nicd- | WOOOO UPDATE TIME | 17:26 |
| Nicd- | \o///// | 17:26 |
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| knihti | ? | 17:26 |
| Nicd- | 1.1.1.26 | 17:27 |
| * Nicd- does the update dance | 17:27 | |
| flux | rsync has --removesomething for remov7ng local files after xfer | 17:27 |
| oku | --remove-source-files | 17:27 |
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| Nicd- | https://together.jolla.com/question/71741/release-notes-software-version-11126-vaarainjarvi/ | 17:32 |
| Tegu | :O | 17:32 |
| Tegu | wooooo | 17:32 |
| stephg | Tegu: where've you been :P | 17:33 |
| salyavin | in install phase of update now. I see tweet from thp about my longed for gpodder update too. Happy update day. | 17:33 |
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| Tegu | stephg: not checking updates nor jolla irc at least | 17:33 |
| FireFly | oh right, update | 17:33 |
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| louisdk | I got the update about 10 min ago too :) | 17:35 |
| stephg | :) | 17:35 |
| Tegu | blah, I cannot update yet :( | 17:36 |
| Nicd- | "On creating a new calendar event with reminder, the reminder time set is saved and used as default for the subsequent new calendar event entries" what | 17:36 |
| Toxip | should I disable patchmanager patches before update? | 17:36 |
| oku | i will at least | 17:37 |
| Tegu | probably it's the safest thing | 17:37 |
| Yaniel | Nicd-: I suppose that means time between reminder and event | 17:37 |
| Yaniel | not the actual time of the reminder | 17:37 |
| Tegu | let the pulley spam begin | 17:37 |
| Nicd- | yeah, but I hope it doesn't default reminder to on for the next one | 17:37 |
| Tegu | I hope it has customizable reminder time | 17:38 |
| Tegu | I mean, better | 17:38 |
| oku | update available, finally :) | 17:38 |
| Tegu | because the gap from 2 hours to one day is just crazy | 17:39 |
| oku | the changelog looks quite impressing :) | 17:39 |
| Tegu | can the reminders be tweaked from command line btw? | 17:39 |
| Tegu | or some patch? | 17:39 |
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| oku | ircc it can be done via command line | 17:41 |
| oku | iirc* | 17:41 |
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| Nicd- | "Attempting to open an app from Lock screen shortcuts while the device is locked now brings up the device lock keypad to allow unlocking the device and then opens the app to foreground" \o/ | 17:44 |
| Nicd- | yesss | 17:44 |
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| salyavin | didn't think to uninstall zram from openrepos first, hopefuly no problem uninstalling it later from openrepos. It's enabled by default now | 17:47 |
| Andy80 | hi | 17:47 |
| Andy80 | I don't know if it's related to this problem: About in Jolla shows me "Unknown Version", but my phone doesn't see the new OS update. Any idea? | 17:48 |
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| salyavin | Not sure the update is rolled out to everyone yet. They do tend to do it in stages probably to not overload their server. | 17:50 |
| Tegu | not everybody can update at the same time. I mean, I still can't see the update either. but I wonder what ist that Unknown Version | 17:50 |
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| attah | my favorite perk from being "the first one" :) | 17:53 |
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| attah | the loading animation on the covers sure is sexy :) | 17:55 |
| tiwake | heh | 17:56 |
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| SK_work | attah: yep really nice | 17:57 |
| * gexc-phone just got update :D | 17:57 | |
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| salyavin | took me a moment to figure out gpodder4 play que got it now. 良かった本当に | 17:59 |
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| SK_work | http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/12/bq-ubuntu-phone-launches-in-europe-this-february | 17:59 |
| SK_work | february ? | 17:59 |
| SK_work | maybe ? | 17:59 |
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| SK_work | nice specs, not outstanding though | 18:00 |
| tigeli | SK_work: it's like tizen.. ;) | 18:00 |
| SK_work | but the price tag is aggressive | 18:00 |
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| SK_work | compared to the jolla | 18:00 |
| SK_work | tigeli: yeah, indeed | 18:00 |
| SK_work | maybe out maybe not | 18:00 |
| attah | 1GB RAM is getting old.. or maybe i was in U9 too long for my own sanity | 18:01 |
| SK_work | attah: on U10 ATM | 18:02 |
| SK_work | I have to say, my ram is now free ! | 18:02 |
| oku | the ui feels pretty smooth in update10 after u9 | 18:02 |
| gexc-phone | ram is never enough :-P | 18:03 |
| oku | 64k should be enough for everybody ;) | 18:03 |
| tigeli | oku: yes, there was a reason why we did not release u9 for all :) | 18:03 |
| salyavin | I still have my Commodore 64 ^-^;; | 18:04 |
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| salyavin | zram is now enabled by default so you have more RAM now :P | 18:04 |
| oku | tigeli: yeah, it was a good decision and this is a good update. Thanks! | 18:04 |
| oku | salyavin: me too :) | 18:04 |
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| attah | SK_work: me too, but haven't experienced it much yet | 18:05 |
| salyavin | oku ahaha cool every play with GEOS? | 18:08 |
| oku | salyavin: not in C64, only with nokia 9110 ;) | 18:08 |
| salyavin | cool | 18:09 |
| r0kk3rz | i survived with a desktop pc with 1gb of ram for a long time | 18:09 |
| oku | it's a shame i don't have space for my C64 equipment in my apartment right now :( | 18:09 |
| r0kk3rz | 1gb should be heaps for a mobile phone | 18:09 |
| tigeli | ~3GB is enough | 18:10 |
| tigeli | ;) | 18:10 |
| oku | maybe when i move to bigger place i'll have some dedicated room for old school stuff :) | 18:10 |
| salyavin | biu a house :P I have my amiga 500 and 3000 at least as well | 18:10 |
| salyavin | buy | 18:10 |
| oku | that'd be awesome at least if nobody asks my girlfriend :D | 18:10 |
| r0kk3rz | still got my Archimedes A4 stashed at my parents house | 18:11 |
| oku | i will, but not just yet. until then i just keep the most valuable computers in a good safe | 18:11 |
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| japa-fi | I managed to mess up my opera install and i guess I messed it up even more by trying to remove related files with file browser. | 18:12 |
| Andy80 | I will try again tomorrow maybe | 18:12 |
| japa-fi | Installed it via amazon, which thinks it's still installed. Thus, can't reinstall | 18:13 |
| r0kk3rz | japa-fi: cant download the apk from somewhere? | 18:13 |
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| javispedro | hrmrm | 18:15 |
| javispedro | there's this weird bug where if you mount the sdcard (formatted as btrfs) several times with different btrfs subvolumes | 18:15 |
| javispedro | tracker will only see one of those mounts | 18:15 |
| japa-fi | r0kk3rz, easier said than done.. | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | is it on the gogglestore? | 18:16 |
| r0kk3rz | if it is then you can use an apk downloader | 18:16 |
| Nicd- | updated \o/ | 18:16 |
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| japa-fi | I've got mine from amazon store. | 18:17 |
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| r0kk3rz | doesnt matter | 18:17 |
| japa-fi | Trying from aptoid I get message that it's already installed with different signature and doesn't update/replace/insall | 18:17 |
| r0kk3rz | it'll be the same apk | 18:17 |
| japa-fi | Oh, now it installed something from aptoid.. | 18:18 |
| japa-fi | Differnt version of opera | 18:18 |
| japa-fi | how many operas there are... | 18:18 |
| Obi-Lan | buying house doesnt mean that you get all the space for your it junk | 18:20 |
| r0kk3rz | is there a u9->u10 changelist? | 18:26 |
| Obi-Lan | or maybe just didnt buy big enough | 18:26 |
| r0kk3rz | i assume the one on TJC is a u8->u10 | 18:26 |
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| japa-fi | anyone experienced with halftrail? | 18:34 |
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| Waitee | r0kk3rz: https://together.jolla.com/question/71741/release-notes-software-version-11126-vaarainjarvi/#71741-settingsaccounts | 18:34 |
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| Waitee | or actually that includes both a summary of update 9 and 10 | 18:34 |
| japa-fi | I tried to download a region, it certainly did something (counter went down from 700 units), but now that I set phone offline, there is no map to zoom to | 18:35 |
| Waitee | im annoyed by the fact that the changelog composer writes "a TOH" where the acronym "TOH" already includes article "the" | 18:36 |
| Waitee | a the other half | 18:36 |
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| Tofe | update went smooth, as usual. | 18:37 |
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| Obi-Lan | was this opt-in or stable update now | 18:38 |
| Tofe | stable | 18:38 |
| Obi-Lan | mine doesn't show any updates availabe | 18:39 |
| Waitee | try again | 18:40 |
| Tofe | wait a little bit, I just got it half an hour ago | 18:40 |
| r0kk3rz | its a bit update for those on u8 | 18:40 |
| r0kk3rz | so the staged roll out may take a while to get to everyone | 18:40 |
| r0kk3rz | *big | 18:40 |
| Obi-Lan | yes I'm on tahkalampi | 18:41 |
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| Obi-Lan | tons of fixes | 18:42 |
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| coderus | tahkalampi | 18:43 |
| coderus | fuuuuu | 18:43 |
| coderus | :D | 18:43 |
| Waitee | fuuu | 18:44 |
| Teme | Double 'click' on Power key when phone locked makes the lock dialog appear (if no lock in use then directly to home view) <3 thank you Santa | 18:44 |
| Waitee | nice! | 18:44 |
| Waitee | didnt even notice that part | 18:45 |
| Waitee | :D | 18:45 |
| Obi-Lan | doesn't that mean that I just the 1.5gbit of love | 18:45 |
| Toxip | I got an "update failed" message but now it says up-to-date... | 18:48 |
| Tofe | Didn't they say they added layers on Maps ? How do I get that functionality ? | 18:48 |
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| Obi-Lan | do they ever get offline maps | 18:53 |
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| japa-fi | someone mentioned offline maps... | 18:54 |
| r0kk3rz | the emergency call icon is fugly :( | 18:54 |
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| the_mgt | Tofe: look at the bottom of the screen for the layers | 18:55 |
| Toxip | It's not possible to just add offline maps. It requires a lot of work to get it done and there are more pressing issues to handle with. | 18:55 |
| the_mgt | I only found that out after watching a review by jollausers or jollatides blog | 18:56 |
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| Obi-Lan | good thing I grabbed that here drive beta | 18:58 |
| Obi-Lan | can play with it | 18:58 |
| javispedro | here is now public | 18:59 |
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| Obi-Lan | yes but it went to gapps store | 19:01 |
| Obi-Lan | and don't have intrests to hack gapps store into jolla | 19:02 |
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| Tofe | ah, weird, my Maps wasn't updated | 19:12 |
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| Tofe | ok, now it's fine | 19:14 |
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| r0kk3rz | hacking gapps is pretty easy though | 19:17 |
| r0kk3rz | download, unzip, copy, done | 19:17 |
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| Toxip | I'm kinda concerned whether the update actually worked... I got the "failed" thing and tried to follow the steps in TJC and try to check for the update again and it says I'm in latest update | 19:26 |
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| attah | I'm getting a really bad habit of hacking the qml on the phone... | 19:27 |
| attah | https://together.jolla.com/question/71883/percent-ecoded-callto-links-does-not-work/ | 19:27 |
| Toxip | I still get the "loading text" and not the busy animation... does that mean the update didn't go through 100%? | 19:29 |
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| meklu | oh neat, u10 | 19:31 |
| meklu | just broke the uptime record on the phone today | 19:31 |
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| meklu | ":D" | 19:31 |
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| salyavin | were you on u9 meklu? | 19:34 |
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| meklu | yup | 19:38 |
| Wnt | is there still no "find in page" feature in the browser? | 19:39 |
| Wnt | it was merged to the master branch 27 days ago https://github.com/sailfishos/sailfish-browser/commit/96f691d68448234d0c9732468b74531e6f29f530 | 19:39 |
| meklu | is the selection stuff in there yet? | 19:39 |
| Wnt | but I guess it didn't make it to the update 10? | 19:39 |
| meklu | or is there still just an unofficial patch? | 19:39 |
| Wnt | same thing for text selection & copy paste from browser | 19:41 |
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| Wnt | but I guess I can use the patches to get that functionality | 19:42 |
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| Wnt | coderus: is this compatible with update10 https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/patch-sailfish-browser-text-selection-patch ? | 19:43 |
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| yells | Hi, is there a builtin way to encrypt text files in sailfish? | 19:45 |
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| yells | Ideally via CLI | 19:45 |
| Toxip | where do backups get stored? | 19:45 |
| Wnt | yells: seems that at least I have a gpg2 binary on path | 19:46 |
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| Wnt | Toxip: /home/nemo/.vault | 19:47 |
| Wnt | and if you choose to export them to the sdcard then they are also there | 19:47 |
| Sidde | is there any issue of not getting the update? my phone does not find any new update | 19:47 |
| Sidde | i'm on 1.0.8 | 19:48 |
| Wnt | Toxip: as Backup.tar if I remember correctly | 19:48 |
| yells | Wnt: thank you! | 19:48 |
| Toxip | Wnt: thanks | 19:48 |
| Turski | Sidde: are you one The First Ones? | 19:48 |
| Turski | one of the* | 19:49 |
| Sidde | not what i know of | 19:49 |
| Sidde | from the name i'll guess a first batch, and in that case no | 19:49 |
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| Turski | updates are first published to the first ones | 19:49 |
| ln- | yes, https://twitter.com/JollaHQ/status/545597047500734464 | 19:50 |
| Sidde | Turski: it says nothing about that in the release note | 19:50 |
| Sidde | Turski: and i'm been pretty fast to update every release | 19:50 |
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| Turski | Sidde: check ln-'s link then | 19:50 |
| Sidde | i see now | 19:50 |
| Sidde | shouldn't that be in the release note too= | 19:51 |
| Tegu | still not getting the update :( maybe they see that I'm spamming with the pulley and delay me more on each check | 19:51 |
| Sidde | ? | 19:51 |
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| Turski | Sidde: it's probably releasing in few hours | 19:51 |
| Sidde | ok | 19:51 |
| Sidde | the information is poor as usual... | 19:51 |
| Turski | well, their server's wouldn't be able to server everyone at once... | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | we're looking into something, one of the reasons we do staging is to catch problems early on. | 19:52 |
| Stskeeps | or staggering, or what it is called.. | 19:52 |
| Sidde | but i'll sit quiet and wait then... | 19:52 |
| Obi-Lan | i think staging would be correct term | 19:53 |
| Sidde | i have no problem with staging at all. Just that it's a release note and no info about it | 19:53 |
| Turski | package 219 of 465 going on for me... :P | 19:53 |
| Sidde | so lots of people are like me throubleshooting | 19:53 |
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| salyavin | anything in particular you are looking into or need reproduced by people who have the update Stskeeps? | 19:56 |
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| Turski | salyavin: generayy problems most likely... for example that problem previously if bash was installed from warehouse | 19:57 |
| Turski | (i was the first to report that one :P ) | 19:58 |
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| Turski | it was quite nasty problem since it wasn't fixable without ssh or factory reset | 19:59 |
| salyavin | yikes Turski | 19:59 |
| salyavin | bash4 from edgley right? | 19:59 |
| salyavin | what did it do? | 19:59 |
| Turski | from nieldk | 19:59 |
| salyavin | wonder if he pulled it I see his bash-completion but not bash. | 19:59 |
| Turski | i don't remember anymore what was the particular problem with that | 20:00 |
| salyavin | sometimes I wonder if he does good testing | 20:00 |
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| Turski | salyavin: that was at update 4 or 5 i think | 20:00 |
| Turski | it's not possible to happen anymore | 20:00 |
| salyavin | oh good. | 20:01 |
| Turski | but i always keep ssh connection open while upgrading and monitor journal and pkmon | 20:01 |
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| salyavin | this upgrade went quite smoothly for me as usual. Only thing I forgot to do was remove zram from openreos first but removing it afterwards seems to have hurt nothing. | 20:01 |
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| salyavin | I open and close the browser a lot (tt-rss links) and felt like memory didn't all get released in u9. Will take me a while to see if that's better now. | 20:02 |
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| salyavin | zram helped and is enabled by default now too. | 20:03 |
| Armadillo | any spectecular changes? :) | 20:04 |
| oku | Armadillo: from update8 or 9? | 20:04 |
| Armadillo | 9 | 20:04 |
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| Waitee | oom handling got better | 20:05 |
| oku | well most important ones are that network works as it should, memory management seems to work now, ui works smoothly | 20:05 |
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| salyavin | Armadillo have you read https://together.jolla.com/question/71741/release-notes-software-version-11126-vaarainjarvi/ | 20:05 |
| Armadillo | sure | 20:05 |
| oku | only downside i find for now is that powermenu doesn't work atm :) | 20:05 |
| salyavin | memory is the biggest one IMHO. | 20:06 |
| Armadillo | I installed it already, but just wanted to know if I missed something ;) | 20:06 |
| salyavin | zram is enabled by default too | 20:06 |
| salyavin | read that together link | 20:06 |
| salyavin | Jollausers/jollafan club is doing a giveaway fun fun http://www.jollausers.com/2014/12/giveaway-jolla-fan-club-and-jollausers-christmas-giveaway/ | 20:06 |
| oku | nice christmas present :) i was already worried that they'd delay the update to be released after the holidays | 20:07 |
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| Turski | Snooze by flipping! <3 | 20:07 |
| oku | yeah, that's the one i've been missing from n900 | 20:07 |
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| Turski | same here | 20:07 |
| Turski | and n9 | 20:07 |
| oku | and silencing incoming call | 20:07 |
| salyavin | well oku if they rushed and released a mess and went on vacation people would be more upset I think ;P | 20:07 |
| attah | Turski: I wonder if it's activated by throwing too... | 20:07 |
| Turski | attah: maybe you need to try...? | 20:08 |
| attah | perhaps i do... | 20:08 |
| oku | salyavin: yeah i know. to correct my message, i was worried about the update not being ready before the holidays :) | 20:08 |
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| Morpog_PC | So when do we get update11? :D | 20:32 |
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| Yaniel | let's see about that in february | 20:32 |
| tigeli | Morpog_PC: real soon now | 20:33 |
| Morpog_PC | soon is always fine tigeli :D | 20:33 |
| salyavin | Staged release, I am on it now. | 20:34 |
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| salyavin | You should have got a first one Morpog_ ;p | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | salyavin, I was talking about U11, not U10 :D | 20:36 |
| Morpog_PC | I'm already on U10, first one here | 20:37 |
| Yaniel | same here | 20:37 |
| salyavin | Ah OK | 20:37 |
| Yaniel | I can finally type fast on fingerterm again :3 | 20:37 |
| Yaniel | u9 had problems with that | 20:37 |
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| Morpog_PC | I like the memory optimizations doesn't seem to slow down anymore as in U9 | 20:38 |
| Yaniel | yup | 20:38 |
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| Morpog_PC | now I want U11 with new browser UI :D | 20:38 |
| salyavin | Yea that is already in git | 20:39 |
| Morpog_PC | i know | 20:39 |
| coderus | Wnt: i didnt tried any old patches with u10 yet | 20:39 |
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| Morpog_PC | but too lazy to build all the dependencies | 20:39 |
| salyavin | hmm bug mentioned in #sailfishos | 20:40 |
| salyavin | https://together.jolla.com/question/71741/release-notes-software-version-11126-vaarainjarvi/ | 20:40 |
| salyavin | don't use alphanumeric lock | 20:40 |
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| salyavin | I had considered it briefly today good thing I didn't ^-^;; | 20:40 |
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| Morpog_PC | I don't use lock code at all | 20:41 |
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| salyavin | I don't either as I use my phone way too often | 20:41 |
| salyavin | but I sometimes wonder how wise that is | 20:42 |
| Morpog_PC | true | 20:42 |
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| salyavin | coderus maze lock looks interesting too | 20:42 |
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| Morpog_PC | I never lost a phone ever though | 20:42 |
| salyavin | me either thank goodness | 20:42 |
| salyavin | or even an internet tablet or pda | 20:43 |
| salyavin | lucky | 20:43 |
| salyavin | Update: Do not use alphanumeric lock code feature yet. Release roll-out on hold to fix an issue discovered w.r.t it. | 20:43 |
| salyavin | wonder if it got beyond the 1st ones | 20:44 |
| Obi-Lan | I've setup ms exchange policy so that anyone wants use company mail need to have atleast pin lock in use | 20:44 |
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| salyavin | I manage to get away without reading work email on my phone. | 20:45 |
| salyavin | We use lotus anyway | 20:45 |
| salyavin | but they have various security policies anyway | 20:45 |
| salyavin | bought thp a beer for that gpodder update lol | 20:45 |
| Obi-Lan | I also use lot of exchange calendaring and contacts | 20:46 |
| Obi-Lan | life on road much easier | 20:47 |
| salyavin | I'd rather get all that working in owncloud on my own server. | 20:48 |
| salyavin | exchange does have nice calendaring from what I recall. | 20:48 |
| salyavin | Lotus is so-so | 20:48 |
| Obi-Lan | yeah I got also others fiddling my calendar and our erp can drop projects into my calendar | 20:49 |
| coderus | salyavin: maze lock posted in twitter is different, not same :D | 20:49 |
| Acce | I'm not sure if it's placebo, but after the update both native & android feels more smooth, I guess they nailed the memory issues this time | 20:49 |
| salyavin | Acce did you run zram in u9? | 20:49 |
| Wnt | coderus: ok I'll try them out later on. Is the text selection patch based on some work by Jolla developers also? | 20:50 |
| Acce | salyavin: nope | 20:50 |
| salyavin | zram helped some and is enabled by default in u10 | 20:50 |
| Acce | seems to help quite much, nice | 20:51 |
| salyavin | I think it is improved but will take me days to know if I've got leaks | 20:51 |
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| Yaniel | they certainly improved things | 20:51 |
| r0kk3rz | yeah u9 was pretty terrible on memory | 20:52 |
| salyavin | yea. Morpog_PC will u11 be the alphanumeric lock fix? you might get u11 today :P | 20:52 |
| Morpog_PC | that would be lame :D | 20:52 |
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| coderus | Wnt: no | 20:53 |
| Wnt | coderus: did you write it yourself? | 20:54 |
| Obi-Lan | how stable owncloud is today, ~last year I tried but it had all kinds of scary stuff like upgrade breaking whole thing | 20:54 |
| salyavin | gone through a few upgrades without breaking it. | 20:55 |
| Kiranos | Obi-Lan: also interested in this | 20:55 |
| Obi-Lan | but so far havent got intrests yet | 20:55 |
| Kiranos | QA was a little to short and beta to rc was very few days apart | 20:56 |
| Wnt | I think someone should start providing snapshot builds of the browser! | 20:56 |
| Morpog_PC | Wnt, coderus started with it but stopped | 20:56 |
| salyavin | yea I know you're separate from the bug coderus | 20:56 |
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| Obi-Lan | I suppose lastpass wont work with jolla browser :P | 20:58 |
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| salyavin | doubt it but you could try this procedure Obi-Lan https://together.jolla.com/question/901/proposal-add-support-for-mobile-firefox-add-ons-to-the-sailfish-browser/ | 21:00 |
| salyavin | 1st answer | 21:00 |
| salyavin | and 2nd | 21:00 |
| Wnt | or maybe Jolla developers could make the building process easier. If I could just point a Mer OBS thingy to a branch on github and make it build be a binary that would be OK too :) | 21:00 |
| salyavin | doubt Last=pass would work though | 21:01 |
| petantik | is the rollout stopped? i checked and got an update for 1.1.1.26? | 21:01 |
| salyavin | petantik https://together.jolla.com/question/71741/release-notes-software-version-11126-vaarainjarvi/ | 21:01 |
| salyavin | petantik Update: Do not use alphanumeric lock code feature yet. Release roll-out on hold to fix an issue discovered w.r.t it. | 21:01 |
| salyavin | weird you got it petantik | 21:02 |
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| petantik | salyavin: Yes, it is. Could it be realted to me being an opt in for update 9 | 21:02 |
| petantik | related* | 21:02 |
| salyavin | don't know. or maybe it means people who are already open to the upgrade (first ones for example) will still get it but the roll out to additional blocks of phones is on hold. | 21:03 |
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| petantik | Aye. Possible. | 21:07 |
| salyavin | I'd take the upgrade and just not set an alphanumeric lock | 21:07 |
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| petantik | yes. my plan. | 21:08 |
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| cvp_ | \o/ | 21:12 |
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| cvp_ | can some one confirm, that xmpp is not working too with 1.1.1.xx ? | 21:13 |
| phaeron | xmpp working for me | 21:13 |
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| stephg | works for me too | 21:14 |
| Andy80 | I was following these instructions https://together.jolla.com/question/58572/bug-unknown-sailfishos-version/ because I was having the same version unknown problem... now I'm upgrading the system with: version --dup, is it ok? | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | never ok | 21:14 |
| Stskeeps | store is only way that you should upgrade | 21:14 |
| salyavin | xmpp seems to be working here on u10 | 21:14 |
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| Andy80 | Stskeeps: yeah but not completly my fault if I was having that problem :/ | 21:15 |
| cvp_ | stephg, do you have https:// in your server link ? | 21:15 |
| cvp_ | oder withoit | 21:16 |
| cvp_ | or | 21:16 |
| Andy80 | I mean.. I never installed any unofficial system package | 21:16 |
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| stephg | cvp_: I don't have a server entry (this would be for my gtalk account) | 21:17 |
| coderus | Wnt: yes it's my own implementation | 21:17 |
| Andy80 | Stskeeps: by the way... it didn't install the 1.1.1.x one... I still have 1.0.8.21 Tahkalampi | 21:17 |
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| coderus | Morpog_PC: too many things to do, i really need to start planning things | 21:18 |
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| vilkz | How can I make font larger than "Theme.fontSizeExtraLarge"? | 21:43 |
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| kimmoli | vilkz: 200 ? | 21:44 |
| Toxip | alright, I managed to break something and now I can't see any image when I boot T_T | 21:45 |
| Toxip | I'm in recovery mode atm | 21:45 |
| Toxip | how do I mount the nemo folder? | 21:45 |
| r0kk3rz | Stskeeps: good work on the memory usage of u10, positively lightweight now | 21:45 |
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| vilkz | kimmoli: Uhm, like "Theme.fontSize200"? | 21:46 |
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| kimmoli | no, just a number | 21:49 |
| mdxth | does "Theme.fontSize * 1.5" work? | 21:50 |
| kimmoli | font.pixelSize: 200 | 21:50 |
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| kimmoli | and mdxth yes , font.pixelSize: Theme.fontSizeExtraLarge * 1.5 works too | 21:50 |
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| vilkz | font.pixelSize: Theme.fontSize300 worked too | 21:51 |
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| Tegu | haha, just noticed that the backup feature uses git | 22:04 |
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| cvp_ | so patchmanager is not working anymore on Update10 ? :) | 22:13 |
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| oku | cvp_: jolla-settings-patchmanager works | 22:23 |
| oku | patchmanager-ui doesn't | 22:23 |
| oku | integrating it in jolla-settings is more elegant anyway | 22:23 |
| cvp_ | yes sure is it better in jolla settings :) but cant find on openrepos | 22:25 |
| cvp_ | @oku | 22:25 |
| oku | try searching for patchmanager for Jolla settings | 22:27 |
| cvp_ | yeah i find it.lol i install it few days before and i wonder why i dont find a app icon :D | 22:28 |
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| oku | :D | 22:28 |
| cvp_ | its normal that the first "start" take a bit time? i see only a circle what is working | 22:30 |
| oku | can't see any patches? | 22:30 |
| cvp_ | nope | 22:30 |
| oku | have you installed any patches? | 22:31 |
| cvp_ | only a working circle... | 22:31 |
| cvp_ | nope | 22:31 |
| cvp_ | one week before i do a factory reset and from this time i dont install any patches | 22:31 |
| oku | try installing some, for example the "sailfishos patches (base)" | 22:31 |
| Tegu | okay, should have checked the tjc page of the update.. "on hold" | 22:32 |
| coderus | "fix is on the go" /sledges | 22:33 |
| sledges | it's in the works:P | 22:34 |
| cvp_ | oku, ok now it show somthing after i install base... and can i usenow the advance too ? | 22:35 |
| oku | yes | 22:36 |
| oku | most of the patches work, but not all of them | 22:36 |
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| oku | but if it can't apply the patch, it won't do anything so just try out what works :) | 22:37 |
| cvp_ | ;) | 22:37 |
| cvp_ | thanks | 22:37 |
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| cvp_ | looks better in settings app :) nice work @dev | 22:37 |
| coderus | sledges: it's on the go to be fixed :D | 22:39 |
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| cvp_ | coderus search feature in web browser is not working :( | 22:46 |
| sledges | coderus:)) | 22:46 |
| coderus | cvp_: this is bad :( | 22:48 |
| cvp_ | but select text is working :) | 22:49 |
| coderus | search feature is too complex | 22:49 |
| coderus | while selecting is simple, everything is already in plece, just need some little fixies :) | 22:50 |
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| cvp_ | maybe better to ask jolla to integrate it into the webbrowser | 22:50 |
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| cvp_ | is maze unlock working on 10 ? | 22:52 |
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| cvp_ | good night cya | 23:01 |
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