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| CvP_ | hi, need help. i dont have a dialer/phone app anymore after install better call log. what is the pkcon command to install it? | 01:42 |
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| WalterN | alright, I made a post about it... https://together.jolla.com/question/69681/request-jolla-tablet-m2-interface/ | 03:37 |
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| CvP_ | but to late | 07:48 |
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| japa-fi | Is there a compass application to jolla, one which can show to the map north. The two that I've found lock north at the start of the application as north=where your phone points at the start | 09:35 |
| jonwil | Does the Jolla phone have a compass sensor? | 09:36 |
| gogeta | is on jolla store | 09:37 |
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| Nicd- | jonwil: yes, the phone has a compass | 10:39 |
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| BonoNL_ | call application lost? | 11:28 |
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| BonoNL_ | look on tjc | 11:29 |
| BonoNL_ | deleted a warehouse app | 11:29 |
| BonoNL_ | had the problem once | 11:30 |
| BonoNL_ | @cvp | 11:30 |
| BonoNL_ | pkcon install voicecall-ui-jolla | 11:32 |
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| chem|st | BonoNL_: he also used #5 in recovery mode and the device went funny | 11:47 |
| BonoNL_ | sunday mood? :) | 11:48 |
| BonoNL_ | to lazy to work? | 11:48 |
| chem|st | japa-fi: you need to calibrate the compass to show north properly | 11:49 |
| chem|st | BonoNL_: no I guess he followed the wrong instructions | 11:49 |
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| BonoNL_ | chem|st: I had the problem once, weird but we fixed it! | 11:56 |
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| the_mgt | does this libpurple/haze stuff in this repo still work? http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:/norguhtar:/haze/sailfish_1.0.2.5_armv7hl/ | 12:39 |
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| tbr | the_mgt: mh, might, but would make sense to rebuild that properly etc | 12:41 |
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| tbr | as in fork the package on OBS and have it rebuilt against sailfish latest (or U9) | 12:42 |
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| BonoNL_ | what about a specific dalvik bug, should it be reported through tjc? | 12:56 |
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| BonoNL_ | the enter isn't changing into search so the app turns useless... | 12:58 |
| Kiranos | sadly had enough of reboots in flaky net locations (where the phone switches from 2g/3g/4g) | 13:02 |
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| Kiranos | ordered an iphone :( | 13:02 |
| Kiranos | two important phone calls missed as the phone rebooted 10sec in to the call, its embarrising | 13:03 |
| the_mgt | tbr: I am too layzy to rebuild, sadly | 13:04 |
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| Stskeeps | Kiranos: did you have your device past care? | 13:05 |
| M4rtinK | well, I still don't trust any smartphone enough for calls :) | 13:06 |
| Kiranos | no I had a case but they wanted me to order the pickup myself, I would do all the contacting and setup pickup with the transport company | 13:07 |
| alterego | M4rtinK: ? | 13:07 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: I use a Nokia 6610i for calling/SMS | 13:07 |
| Kiranos | Stskeeps: and I've read alot about the reboot issue, and that there seems to be two, one with loose contacts to the battery and one with flaky net | 13:07 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: as the battery lasts much longer than a smartphone one | 13:08 |
| Stskeeps | sounds odd, but ok, anyway, care could have helped you | 13:08 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: and there is much less stuff that can go wrong preventing you from calling or receiving calls | 13:08 |
| Sail0r | Kiranos: they send you everything you need | 13:08 |
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| alterego | M4rtinK: yeah, I always carry around a spare battery :x | 13:08 |
| Sail0r | and you only need to make an appointment with the shipping company | 13:08 |
| Sail0r | because care does not know when you are at home | 13:09 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: still won't help for missed calls :) | 13:09 |
| alterego | pfft, if it's important they'll ring back :P | 13:09 |
| M4rtinK | alterego: well, yeah :) | 13:09 |
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| Kiranos | Stskeeps: yea but I think they should do the contact to the transport company, I got an pdf I had to print out, order pickup, etc in 10 days or it would be forfited, I didnt have time for that and had no printer at home so had to do it at work where its very busy | 13:09 |
| Kiranos | I expected jolla to send this out so I could just put it in a bag and give to someone like everyone else | 13:10 |
| Stskeeps | okay | 13:10 |
| Sail0r | that's ridiculous Kiranos :-/ | 13:10 |
| Sail0r | it takes 2mins to make a appointment with fedex | 13:11 |
| Kiranos | well fedex is not very big in sweden | 13:11 |
| Kiranos | but its ok with me | 13:11 |
| Kiranos | I'm fine with iphone just wanted to tell here about me experience | 13:11 |
| Kiranos | its more buggy than I wanted after 1 year | 13:12 |
| Sail0r | but you didn't give a chance to fix it | 13:12 |
| Kiranos | and the reboot bug is embarrising when I have to recall people I dont really know and it reboots two times to the same person I talk to | 13:12 |
| Sail0r | I had the same issue | 13:12 |
| Kiranos | Sail0r: I did the paper trick | 13:12 |
| Sail0r | send it to care | 13:12 |
| Sail0r | and it's done | 13:12 |
| Sail0r | no reboots afterwards | 13:13 |
| Sail0r | and I got a brand new Jolla | 13:13 |
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| Kiranos | Sail0r: ok might send it in again, but last time I did reissue the initial call to jolla but never printed the receipt or whatever that fedex needed, so guess I wont now either, I think I'll be happy with iphone | 13:15 |
| Kiranos | also dont like that still after 1 year that you cant buy payed apps | 13:15 |
| Sail0r | Well, I just say you have time to buy an iphone | 13:15 |
| Sail0r | but not print a paper | 13:15 |
| Sail0r | that's kind of strange ^^ | 13:15 |
| Kiranos | yes iphone does all for me | 13:15 |
| Sail0r | send the broken one to me ;) | 13:15 |
| Kiranos | apple webiste click order and pay with visa and done | 13:15 |
| Sail0r | I setup shipping ;) | 13:16 |
| Kiranos | :) | 13:16 |
| Kiranos | I think there are some at work interested in jolla to try it out, they can do it if they want to use ti | 13:16 |
| Kiranos | it | 13:16 |
| Kiranos | but yea, and no voice in the maps software? .. | 13:16 |
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| Kiranos | its dangerous to have to look at the phone all the time, I want to put it donw and listen where I should drive | 13:17 |
| Kiranos | its to much thats still missing and now they officially gone out and said that the jolla phone will be shelved more or less until the tablet is out | 13:17 |
| BonoNL_ | Kiranos: here maps it is... | 13:17 |
| Sail0r | yeah, I understand that many people are not happy with the phone | 13:18 |
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| Sail0r | Even for me there are many things which i don't like in SailfishOS | 13:18 |
| Sail0r | and many which I don't understand why they are not important for Jolla to get them working | 13:19 |
| Sail0r | But it's pretty much what I expected when I bought the phone ;) | 13:19 |
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| alterego | Sail0r: Just because something isn't done, or doesn't appear to be actively worked on doesn't mean it's not important. | 13:20 |
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| alterego | Sail0r: it's just prioritisation | 13:20 |
| Sail0r | alterego: I know ;) | 13:20 |
| Sail0r | It was a bit over dramatic ;) | 13:20 |
| phaeron | Kiranos: who said anything about shelving it ? | 13:21 |
| Sail0r | The main problem is that I still cannot recommend the phone to non techie people | 13:21 |
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| alterego | Sail0r: We all want the platform to be the best, we want all the bells and whistles, but there just aren't that many sailors to work on everything that needs to be done. So we have to be very careful about what gets done and when. | 13:21 |
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| alterego | Sail0r: yes, I can sympathise. Hopefully the next year will see even more of a radical change for the better with Sailfish. Already over the past year I think that it's come along tremendously :) | 13:22 |
| Sail0r | alterego: Yeah, I know that I work in an IT company myself. But I have a problem with how Jolla represents SailfishOS to the outside world sometimes. I was really shocked when they announce 1.0 and now they announce 2.0 and we are still missing essential features. | 13:22 |
| alterego | And as long as there are people like your self that are happy to help support the platform, even though you know about the pitfalls, it all helps :) | 13:22 |
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| Sail0r | I know that it will be a plattform near from perfect but sometimes the marketing of Jolla get's a bit over the top I think ;). But that's normal | 13:23 |
| Kiranos | phaeron: it was in an update10 progress update at together, that devs would focus on the tablest | 13:23 |
| Kiranos | tablet | 13:23 |
| Sail0r | And I am still happy with my phone :). It's better then any Android phone i had. | 13:24 |
| phaeron | how is focus equal to shelving :) | 13:24 |
| Sail0r | and I like sailfishos more then harmattan | 13:24 |
| Stskeeps | Kiranos: [citation needed] (focus on tablet) | 13:25 |
| Kiranos | yea I dont remember the exact quote but all in all I think jolla should gave gone out with the issue with 2g/3g switching and cause of reboots | 13:26 |
| Sail0r | they have patches lots of things with that issue | 13:26 |
| Sail0r | look at the changelogs | 13:26 |
| Sail0r | *patched | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | fwiw, "We've been working hard on improving the out of memory (OOM) handling by the OS since the update9 opt-in was released. A portion of our time went into demo preparations for Slush and of course the tablet launch. This has left us lagging a bit behind the internal release schedule for update10." | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | is what it says | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | https://together.jolla.com/question/68125/official-announcement-current-status-of-update10/ | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | we're one linear code line, not two | 13:27 |
| Stskeeps | tablet is in many ways just another hw adaptation and ui improvements go to all devices | 13:28 |
| tbr | separate code line for each product and copy product, fun times... fun memories... NOT! | 13:28 |
| Kiranos | but why no payed appstore after 1 year? I'm not flaming I would love to be happy with my jolla | 13:30 |
| Teemu | mikko hypponen put it very nicely in his tedx speech that there are no free apps | 13:30 |
| Teemu | payment option would be nice indeed | 13:31 |
| M4rtinK | Kiranos: well, there is a lot more stuff that is not there yet | 13:31 |
| M4rtinK | Kiranos: but Jolla has limited resources | 13:31 |
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| Stskeeps | http://www.boredpanda.com/satiric-illustrations-retro-john-holcroft/ | 13:32 |
| * tbr wonders why apps don't do their own upselling, it's not /that/ hard, and both are equally easy to foil in 99% of all cases | 13:33 | |
| Kiranos | M4rtinK: yea I understand, it boils down to that I might be to picky for a "dev" phone I though I wasnt but yes I believe that I thought it would be more "done" than what it is. I have to manually put in my data for sms/mms/ etc, it doesnt pick it up by default. Its alot of these issues | 13:35 |
| M4rtinK | on the other hand, I think that there are some areas where community might be able to help, but unfortunately can't due to the given component being closed source & Jolla is lacking the resources to do the work themselves, so stuff gets delayed... | 13:35 |
| M4rtinK | I'm not saying it might actually work - there might actually be no participation even after a lot of work with open sourcing | 13:36 |
| Kiranos | when there were montly updates I had a feeling, that hopefully my issues will be fixed soon as I saw there were so much work going on, but I dont think there has been a single update since before summer vacations? | 13:36 |
| M4rtinK | ar the contribution workflow might be more work than doing the same changes outright | 13:36 |
| M4rtinK | but I think many developers might be still frustrated due to not being able to "scratch their own itch" and fix stuff that's not open | 13:37 |
| Teemu | the secret project might have taken some of the resources | 13:37 |
| Kiranos | so for me personally an iphone is better, it has very good stability | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | what secret project? | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 13:37 |
| ar | M4rtinK: ? | 13:37 |
| Yaniel | btw nice job on the a2dp support | 13:37 |
| Teemu | Stskeeps: the one you outed at slush | 13:37 |
| Stskeeps | Teemu: nah. it didn't take a lot of people's time. | 13:38 |
| Teemu | dunno | 13:38 |
| Teemu | hard to estimate those kinds of things | 13:38 |
| Kiranos | I will probably dust of my phone when the pyshical keyboard toh gets released and try it out | 13:39 |
| Teemu | i managed with a small team to come up with a working mockup system of a combined online/instore shopping integration system from mid-august to 4.12. | 13:39 |
| Teemu | meanwhile i bought the jolla phone and forgot to join the tohkbd kickstarter | 13:39 |
| Kiranos | a big reason to why I bought jolla is because of android devices dont do pyhiscal anymore, to few in the target group to warrant it | 13:39 |
| Stskeeps | admittedly qt5.2 is needed for tablet, but that was a general need for stack in first plcae | 13:40 |
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| Teemu | the last two weeks were pretty damn busy | 13:40 |
| Teemu | kimmoli: i might want to buy a keybored in some non-ks-way whenever that's possible | 13:41 |
| kimmoli | http://funkyotherhalf.com/?page_id=9#!/c/9141090/inview=product42141285&offset=0&sort=normal | 13:41 |
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| Kiranos | Stskeeps: what I feel is that the phone is not really targeted towards devs anymore, its more targeted to "a third alternative" and if so you want it to be an alternative for the broad audience, compared to iphone and android, please look over payed apps, I know android apps are present, but now alot of them are requireing google maket for rights managemnt or something | 13:42 |
| Kiranos | and also, not at all up to date as google market is | 13:43 |
| Teemu | i'd like to buy sleepanalyzer for jolla | 13:44 |
| Teemu | i had it on n900 and loved it | 13:44 |
| Teemu | no android thing comes close | 13:44 |
| Stskeeps | Kiranos: i completely agree | 13:46 |
| Teemu | the original developer seems not willing to port it as he has moved on to better systems (blueberry) but ... | 13:46 |
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| BonoNL_ | there are some devs who moved to BB who are waiting for paid apps. | 13:48 |
| BonoNL_ | knobtviker for instance | 13:48 |
| Teemu | i'd love if it then sent coap or http requests when in my home network so i could trigger my fancy lights when the waking up event comes closer | 13:48 |
| BonoNL_ | :) | 13:48 |
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| Teemu | i happen to make at work an embedded control system that uses open protocols (as in: the protocol has an rfc) | 13:50 |
| kimmoli | like rfc 2324 ? | 13:53 |
| Teemu | or rfc 1149 | 13:54 |
| Teemu | btw did you study at tkk when the limux sms-payment soda vending machine was at basement of 3a? | 13:55 |
| kimmoli | what you mean by studying? | 13:56 |
| Teemu | or did you visit the buildings? :) | 13:57 |
| Teemu | i never studied in there | 13:57 |
| Teemu | i just got the library card and spent countless nights at maarintalo and 3a and 3b | 13:57 |
| Teemu | a bit less time in sbo | 13:58 |
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| kimmoli | not actually been there at all. Mostly visiting different VTT places | 14:00 |
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| Teemu | ah | 14:00 |
| Teemu | i presented my demo to some vtt guys on thursday | 14:01 |
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| meklu | rfc 2324 is the best rfc | 14:04 |
| Teemu | there's the trouble that very few baristas support it | 14:05 |
| Teemu | machines are easier to adapt but then automats don't make good coffee | 14:05 |
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| clau | any idea why not all pictures in the gallery are visible in android apps? and, is there a way to fix it? | 15:07 |
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| Teemu | kimmoli: are all of the stm32's programmable via i2c? | 15:20 |
| Teemu | should there perhaps be something that speaks i2c to jolla and then swd to the dut? that could facilitate gdb debugging and all coolness breaks loose | 15:20 |
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| kimmoli | Teemu: afain not all of them are programmable over i2c, depends on bootloader rom version | 15:26 |
| kimmoli | gdb over i2c | 15:26 |
| kimmoli | you could make swd "host" on another stm32 which is then connected to the target | 15:27 |
| Teemu | indeed | 15:27 |
| kimmoli | it would then be like stlink thingy | 15:27 |
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| kimmoli | but it is connected to jolla by i2c, instead of usb to pc | 15:27 |
| Teemu | exactly | 15:28 |
| Teemu | oh btw is the usb otg-enabled or enablable? | 15:28 |
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| Nicd- | damn, had a reboot again :( | 15:41 |
| Nicd- | and as before, when I was using the phone right when I touched the screen | 15:41 |
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| ced117 | does anyone know how to solve this whitout rebooting the phone ? http://pastebin.com/G5kZDNhx | 15:44 |
| ced117 | whiteout* | 15:45 |
| Nicd- | without* :) | 15:45 |
| joonahoi | has younited worked for someone after the last update? | 15:49 |
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| Nicd- | joonahoi: nope | 15:50 |
| Nicd- | unless there was an update after the one that broke everything | 15:50 |
| ced117 | oh, thanks Nicd- ^^ | 15:50 |
| Nicd- | I am really disappointed with F-Secure and Jolla QA in this case | 15:51 |
| Nicd- | you can't just release and update that breaks your app entirely (doesn't even start usually) and then have it in the store for a week with no fix | 15:52 |
| Nicd- | an* | 15:52 |
| M4rtinK | so much for QA :) | 15:52 |
| joonahoi | Nicd-: indeed | 15:52 |
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| clau | ah, the old 'commit before you leave office, without testing' thingie. | 16:08 |
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| clau | there should be a law against it. | 16:08 |
| clau | commit or publish new app, same difference | 16:09 |
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| WalterN | clau: sounds like a variation of "publish or perish" | 16:14 |
| Teemu | are the f guys on a month long vacation then? | 16:14 |
| clau | the app should be removed from store immediately. no excuse for jolla. | 16:15 |
| clau | reverting to prev version might not be an option, as it may not support who knows what server side changes. | 16:16 |
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| WalterN | M4rtinK: is your username M4rtinK on the together.jolla website? | 16:21 |
| M4rtinK | walokra: just MartinK | 16:21 |
| WalterN | tabfail | 16:21 |
| WalterN | :P | 16:22 |
| Teemu | and oh, should the programs on jolla phone know about my accounts in the settings accounts? | 16:22 |
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| WalterN | M4rtinK: so you saw my M.2 post? :3 | 16:23 |
| M4rtinK | not yet | 16:23 |
| Teemu | i mean, i already told it my twitter and google and jolla accounts and it's pretty weird to me that the apps don't know f about this? | 16:23 |
| WalterN | M4rtinK: as a side note, evidently the M.2 interface is almost exactly a year old | 16:26 |
| M4rtinK | interesting coincidence :) | 16:26 |
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| WalterN | I should go by tiwake on freenode | 16:27 |
| WalterN | hmm | 16:27 |
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| tiwake | I still have H264 registered in my freenode account? lol | 16:31 |
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| tiwake | tiwake too... dont think I've used it in so long | 16:32 |
| tiwake | months anyway, maybe a year | 16:32 |
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| tiwake | oh gosh, that idea for an n-trig digitizer... that would be so awesome | 16:47 |
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| krkunkastaja | Hi! Is there any working speech to text app for jolla? | 18:01 |
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| Teemu | tiwake: dunno about n-trig but a real wacom would rule | 18:04 |
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| M4rtinK | krkunkastaja: according to this: http://www.merproject.org/logs/#sailfishos-push/#sailfishos-push.2014-08-01.log | 18:05 |
| M4rtinK | krkunkastaja: espeak kinda works | 18:05 |
| krkunkastaja | M4rtinK, tnx. im going to try it.. | 18:06 |
| M4rtinK | krkunkastaja: some espeak packages are here: https://build.merproject.org/package/binaries/home:MartinK:sailfish/espeak?repository=sailfish_latest_armv7hl | 18:07 |
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| r0kk3rz | M4rtinK: is there an easy way to search for packages on OBS? | 18:14 |
| M4rtinK | r0kk3rz: search box in upper right | 18:14 |
| M4rtinK | unlike the old MeeGo OBS, it works on the new Mer one :) | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | ah my bad | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | theres two search boxes on the projects page | 18:15 |
| r0kk3rz | one thats useful and one that isnt | 18:16 |
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| kimmoli | espeak is text-to-speech (or have i missed something?) | 18:19 |
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| chem|st | kimmoli: didn't you get a tab for free yet? | 18:25 |
| kimmoli | chem|st: you can help http://igg.me/at/jolla-tablet/x/3341704 | 18:25 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: hehe, I ordered withtin the first 100... | 18:26 |
| kimmoli | but did you forget shipping? or lastucase ? | 18:26 |
| kimmoli | :) | 18:26 |
| chem|st | I was wondering what 10 lastucase referrals get me^^ | 18:26 |
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| chem|st | kimmoli: I used espeak on n900 to have the device speak instead of ringtones | 18:28 |
| kimmoli | i have it there to speak irssi notifications in some cases | 18:30 |
| chem|st | at university there is a speaker in the bookshelf of the IT guys... some people get shocked when the bookshelf starts to speak nagios messages out loud^^ | 18:31 |
| chem|st | I once got stuck on that bookshelf with clips of my bag... those guys like to play with magnets, the bad kind of | 18:32 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: how thick is the oledtoh? | 18:33 |
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| kimmoli | toholed you mean | 18:35 |
| chem|st | yeah | 18:35 |
| kimmoli | äh | 18:35 |
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| kimmoli | moment | 18:35 |
| chem|st | is the pcb thin enough to have a standard toh made thinner to have it fit? that is the actual question | 18:36 |
| svuorela | kimmoli: btw, how accurate are the colors on tohkbd color selector thing ? | 18:38 |
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| kimmoli | just took some photos of few different colors | 18:39 |
| kimmoli | chem|st: ?? pcb is 0.4mm but the oled display is thicker | 18:40 |
| kimmoli | svuorela: check #jollatohkbd | 18:42 |
| kimmoli | chem|st: https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=28c45497-6bd0-df38-254b-ebd6a4402ccd | 18:42 |
| svuorela | kimmoli: as in twitter tag or irc channel ? | 18:42 |
| kimmoli | irc here in freenode | 18:43 |
| kimmoli | svuorela: pics >> https://app.younited.com/?shareObject=13fb072b-f680-14d8-5952-1f7f38a0e055 | 18:43 |
| svuorela | kimmoli: want questions here or over in teh other channel ? :) | 18:45 |
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| kimmoli | tohkbd questions in #jollatohkbd | 18:46 |
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| chem|st | the igg was setup to see if they reach 2k... now they have 7k sold - royalties for exfat... less than 3 days left... how about a last sprint? | 19:05 |
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| ln- | i doubt the split screen feature will remain unimplemented forever even if the goal is not reached now. | 19:07 |
| Stskeeps | it's all about priorities | 19:07 |
| chem|st | ln-: as I expect that I do not care about it that much... I care about that Jolla finally has enough people to update and further develop core applications | 19:08 |
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| ln- | that's a point | 19:10 |
| chem|st | all so promising stuff that jolla marketed over the past 1.5 years has shown to fall under as they do not have the manpower eg money to develop further | 19:10 |
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| r0kk3rz | its all empire building though, but the stock apps to need a little TLC | 19:12 |
| Obi-Lan | sdxc would be probably harder to implement afterwards | 19:13 |
| chem|st | Obi-Lan: ? it is a license and a driver, well a driver that is not reliable on linux iirc | 19:14 |
| Obi-Lan | well you cannot print sdxc to case | 19:14 |
| Obi-Lan | not sure under which name they could advertise it | 19:14 |
| chem|st | Obi-Lan: I hope they do not print anything on the case but their logo! | 19:14 |
| Obi-Lan | small sdxc logo next to reader would make life of dummies easier | 19:15 |
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| chem|st | Obi-Lan: simplistic design is one of the key features/values I like the most about jolla and sailfish | 19:16 |
| Obi-Lan | well yes, but mystery slot without markings would be confusing for some | 19:17 |
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| M4rtinK | Obi-Lan: on the other hand it would be definitely #unlike :) | 19:40 |
| M4rtinK | Obi-Lan: #unlike slot :) | 19:40 |
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| Obi-Lan | hah, yes | 19:42 |
| Obi-Lan | put things in, see if they work | 19:42 |
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| Obi-Lan | but most important thing, will netflix work on it | 19:45 |
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| krkunkastaja | espeak does not "convert" speech to text? only text to speech? | 19:49 |
| kimmoli | krkunkastaja: afaik it is TTS only | 19:50 |
| krkunkastaja | kimmoli, is there any app to do the job? | 19:50 |
| kimmoli | i don't know such | 19:51 |
| kimmoli | if there is linux libs for that, then it could be doable | 19:51 |
| kimmoli | http://cmusphinx.sourceforge.net/ ? | 19:52 |
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| krkunkastaja | i tried simon named program few months ago with ubuntu.. | 19:53 |
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| M4rtinK | krkunkastaja: oh, you wanted speck to text | 19:56 |
| M4rtinK | krkunkastaja: sorry, I took it thw other way around :) | 19:57 |
| M4rtinK | *the | 19:57 |
| krkunkastaja | M4rtinK, np. also wanted to test that too... | 19:57 |
| M4rtinK | people used pocketsphinx back on N900 | 19:58 |
| M4rtinK | not sure if it has been ported to Sailfish OS yet | 19:58 |
| krkunkastaja | i'm just looking pocketsphinx pages.. | 19:59 |
| kimmoli | https://github.com/cmusphinx seems there is github mirror | 20:00 |
| kimmoli | kinda recently updated too | 20:00 |
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| coderus | imho you can't get good speech recognition without online google services nowadays :D | 20:33 |
| coderus | there are some programs you set macroses to your voice command | 20:34 |
| coderus | but it just compare your command with recorded ones and if accuracy >= thresold it trigger | 20:34 |
| coderus | means no real speech recodnition here | 20:35 |
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| ReflexDarky | hello fellow jolla fans is any one out there that can help me with my problem https://together.jolla.com/question/40802/how-to-format-your-usd-card-to-btrfs-and-share-space-with-android/ | 20:49 |
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| coderus | did you follow guide and stuck with some problem? | 21:02 |
| ReflexDarky | yes i follow the guide but still not working | 21:03 |
| ReflexDarky | i think i might have deleted the mount-sd@mmcblk.service file | 21:04 |
| ReflexDarky | by mistake | 21:04 |
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| chem|st | ReflexDarky: there is no such service file, the "@" is a marker for variables, mount-sd@.service gets startet for mmcblk1 so the service shown is called mount-sd@mmcblk1.service | 21:10 |
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| coderus | ReflexDarky: show mount output | 21:11 |
| coderus | and systemctl status androidsdcard.service | 21:12 |
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| ReflexDarky | devtmpfs on /dev type devtmpfs (rw,relatime,size=415332k,nr_inodes=103833,mode=755) | 21:16 |
| ReflexDarky | none on /proc type proc (rw,relatime) | 21:16 |
| ReflexDarky | none on /sys type sysfs (rw,relatime) | 21:16 |
| ReflexDarky | tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw,relatime) | 21:16 |
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| coderus | pastebin | 21:17 |
| coderus | is your friend | 21:17 |
| ReflexDarky | woops my bad | 21:17 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/FS21Er85 | 21:17 |
| chem|st | and if you can write up on a pastebin what you did, if possible exact commands you used in order you used them | 21:18 |
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| coderus | /dev/mmcblk1 on /data/media | 21:18 |
| coderus | looks ok | 21:18 |
| chem|st | the sdcard is missing is the issue | 21:19 |
| chem|st | media/sdcard/$uuid | 21:19 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/Tr13CcVQ | 21:19 |
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| ReflexDarky | thats the androidsdcard.service out put | 21:20 |
| ReflexDarky | the sd card is missing but it is in the phone | 21:20 |
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| chem|st | ReflexDarky: the android part of the sdcard is mounted just fine... can you pastebin the commands you used too? | 21:21 |
| chem|st | what does "btrfs subvolume get-default /dev/mmcblk1" return? | 21:22 |
| coderus | btrfs subvolume list /data/media also? | 21:23 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/BAA88vc9 | 21:24 |
| ReflexDarky | thats commands i used to do this | 21:24 |
| ReflexDarky | i will get the next you asked for | 21:24 |
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| chem|st | "chown nemo:nemo jolla/ - add -R if needed" is that really from the cmdline? | 21:25 |
| ReflexDarky | no its what a copy paste | 21:25 |
| ReflexDarky | was* | 21:26 |
| chem|st | ok | 21:26 |
| ReflexDarky | i follow guide | 21:26 |
| ReflexDarky | but added my number 257 | 21:26 |
| ReflexDarky | so you see what i did | 21:26 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/VWdE9XjF | 21:26 |
| chem|st | how should I check if you did something wrong when you copy paste my list? check on the commandline if the history still has those lines | 21:27 |
| ReflexDarky | thats what the btrfs display | 21:27 |
| chem|st | yeah think it needs to be mounted | 21:27 |
| chem|st | try "btrfs subvolume get-default /data/media" | 21:28 |
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| chem|st | and what coderus wrote too | 21:28 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/FhBNX4g3 | 21:29 |
| chem|st | hmm that looks fine... | 21:30 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/QV3vf1Nv | 21:30 |
| chem|st | so and mount-sd@.service is missing? | 21:31 |
| ReflexDarky | its not in the folder system | 21:31 |
| coderus | ls -la /etc/systemd/system/mount-sd@.service ? | 21:32 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/vSgEAQNF | 21:33 |
| coderus | ok, its http://paste.ubuntu.com/9417520 | 21:33 |
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| chem|st | coderus: does systemctl clear missing as "disabled" or does he need to enable it? | 21:36 |
| ReflexDarky | i was just about to ask that | 21:37 |
| chem|st | I'd just reboot when the file is back at its place | 21:37 |
| ReflexDarky | okie dokie rebooting now | 21:37 |
| chem|st | but you may enable it just like in the howto | 21:37 |
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| ReflexDarky | it broken still | 21:41 |
| ReflexDarky | and when i try to enable it it tells me this | 21:41 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/qSrGjetM | 21:42 |
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| coderus | it shouldn't be enabled manually | 22:06 |
| coderus | checl btrfs subvolume output again | 22:07 |
| coderus | you can try to reinstall sd-utils package also | 22:07 |
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| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/2gEyNSmC | 22:11 |
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| ReflexDarky | is the sd-utils the github one | 22:11 |
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| coderus | no idea | 22:13 |
| coderus | just install it from repo | 22:13 |
| coderus | *reinstall | 22:13 |
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| ReflexDarky | with pkcon install sd-utils in terminal | 22:19 |
| coderus | right | 22:20 |
| ReflexDarky | bahhh that does not work | 22:24 |
| ReflexDarky | he display this | 22:24 |
| ReflexDarky | http://pastebin.com/dLb2Qp7A | 22:24 |
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| coderus | pkcon refresh ? | 22:31 |
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| ReflexDarky | just trying it now | 22:35 |
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| ReflexDarky | i think its updating the list | 22:35 |
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| chem|st | kimmoli: eleven lastucases^^ | 22:59 |
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| kimmoli | ? | 22:59 |
| chem|st | kimmoli: headcount for referrals^^ | 23:00 |
| kimmoli | aa | 23:00 |
| chem|st | seems all hits I produce have already bought one from the first link I posted^^ | 23:00 |
| kimmoli | last time checked 13 | 23:02 |
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| tiwake | Teemu: https://together.jolla.com/question/63876/request-jolla-tablet-wacom-digitizer-active-pen-support/ | 23:34 |
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| ryukafalz | tiwake: digitizer TOH idea is interesting | 23:47 |
| M4rtinK2 | ryukafalz: well, it if works :) | 23:48 |
| ryukafalz | heheh, fair enough :P | 23:48 |
| ryukafalz | there's probably too much metal inside the tablet though | 23:48 |
| M4rtinK2 | testing results so far are a bit discouraging | 23:49 |
| M4rtinK2 | well actually there should be less | 23:49 |
| M4rtinK2 | for example: | 23:50 |
| M4rtinK2 | https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/JMDYXESeZ6nrNnOU.large | 23:50 |
| M4rtinK2 | the electronics tends to be on the sides in tablets | 23:50 |
| M4rtinK2 | so at least part of the screen might work | 23:50 |
| ryukafalz | part of the screen working wouldn't make for a very good drawing experience though ;) | 23:51 |
| M4rtinK2 | depending on how big part :) | 23:51 |
| M4rtinK2 | but yeah | 23:51 |
| M4rtinK2 | still, as you can see from the links | 23:51 |
| M4rtinK2 | people have been building custom LCD tablets | 23:51 |
| tiwake | I have a wacom digitizer thats a replacement part for an old touch-screen laptop | 23:52 |
| tiwake | 11" | 23:52 |
| ryukafalz | well, if it works it would be the most interesting TOH idea I've seen so far | 23:53 |
| tiwake | toh? | 23:53 |
| tiwake | oh the other half? | 23:53 |
| ryukafalz | yeah | 23:53 |
| ryukafalz | active digitizers usually add significant cost to a device, but if you could get one as an addon... | 23:54 |
| ryukafalz | :) | 23:54 |
| ryukafalz | since many users won't need them | 23:54 |
| tiwake | if you could get one as an addon for $50, so many artists would get it | 23:54 |
| M4rtinK2 | BTW, Wacom seems to be making custom Windows 8/Android tablets :) | 23:55 |
| M4rtinK2 | https://store.wacom.com/us/en/product/DTHA1300H/ | 23:55 |
| tiwake | n-trig is a good idea too | 23:55 |
| M4rtinK2 | of course, they don't disappoint with the price :) | 23:55 |
| tiwake | speaking of which | 23:55 |
| tiwake | https://together.jolla.com/question/69848/app-request-port-krita-for-sailfish-os-tablet/ | 23:56 |
| tiwake | krita is an amazing program | 23:56 |
| M4rtinK2 | tiwake: I would probably be fine even with shelling out another 200% for that | 23:56 |
| M4rtinK2 | BTW, ntrig - is it something else than a Wacom clone ? | 23:56 |
| M4rtinK2 | some other technology that might be easier to add to an existing product ? | 23:57 |
| tiwake | according to that guy it is | 23:57 |
| ryukafalz | tiwake: I think Krita Gemini should run on Sailfish without significant changes | 23:58 |
| tiwake | http://www.n-trig.com/Content.aspx?Page=productssystemoverview | 23:58 |
| ryukafalz | actually maybe not, not sure if it supports wayland... | 23:58 |
| tiwake | ryukafalz: I would think that in most cases? | 23:58 |
| tiwake | oh, is sailfishOS wayland? | 23:59 |
| * ryukafalz nods | 23:59 | |
| tiwake | thats cool | 23:59 |
| fennekki | it's the only distro I know of with working wayland, too | 23:59 |
| M4rtinK2 | ryukafalz: well, I'm pretty sure it is Qt 5 based ? | 23:59 |
| tiwake | KDE 5 is all wayland friendly | 23:59 |
| M4rtinK2 | ryukafalz: as it is coming from the KDE land | 23:59 |
| ryukafalz | M4rtinK2: It may be Qt 4, I haven't kept up with Krita | 23:59 |
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