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| nander | When will we get bluetooth LE? | 02:50 |
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| nander | The lack thereof lowers the value of a smartwatch + jolla immensively | 02:50 |
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| nander | 9:00 AM - 23:00 PM is 75% consumed | 02:50 |
| nander | Which means you can't use the combination while travelling | 02:51 |
| nander | (so 100% -> 25% in 14 hours) | 02:51 |
| nander | In which the phone is passive | 02:51 |
| salyavin | Vote on it. https://together.jolla.com/question/8589/proper-bluetooth-le-support/ https://together.jolla.com/question/64317/request-jolla-tablet-bluetooth-le-support/ | 03:07 |
| TMavica | is there any limited to bring cigarette from other country to Finland when check out in airport? | 03:20 |
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| Ezko | 1 carton per person from outside eu | 03:37 |
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| Ezko | inside eu no limits | 03:37 |
| TMavica | outside? | 03:38 |
| Ezko | where are you coming from | 03:38 |
| TMavica | Hong Kong | 03:38 |
| Ezko | so 1 carton | 03:38 |
| Ezko | 10x20 | 03:38 |
| Ezko | cigarettes | 03:38 |
| TMavica | 10 packs? | 03:38 |
| Ezko | yeah | 03:39 |
| TMavica | thanks | 03:39 |
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| TMavica | how about if overlimited, how much will be charged? | 03:43 |
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| Ezko | taxes i think | 03:45 |
| Ezko | which are pretty high | 03:45 |
| TMavica | do they check the tutorist frequenlty? | 03:51 |
| jonwil | #jolliamobile doesn't seem like the right place to discuss how to get cigarettes into Finland without paying taxes | 03:53 |
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| TMavica | ok sorry | 03:54 |
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| jonwil | Cigarettes are bad for you :P | 04:07 |
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| lpotter | *cough* | 05:03 |
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| Teemu | the tax on cigarettes is ultrahuge | 05:30 |
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| Teemu | i once paid the taxes on some tobacco and they ended up costing more than ten times their buying value | 05:31 |
| jonwil | Making smokers pay more for their habit might actually push a few of them to quit... | 05:31 |
| Teemu | dunno | 05:35 |
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| Teemu | https://twitter.com/SoluMachines/status/537339162878554112 | 05:35 |
| Teemu | i quit for different reasons accidentally in 2006 | 05:35 |
| cryorat | jonwil, in my country the high taxes push people toward to use/buy foreign tobaccos(with much lower tax), which obviously illegal. now our government advertise the use of legal cigarettes with huge ad-boards | 05:44 |
| Teemu | hahaha | 05:44 |
| cryorat | this ad shows a pair of handcuffs with the text: "The illegal cigarettes are cheap, the freedom is expensive" | 05:45 |
| cryorat | there are other point of view on this, which has two aspect | 05:46 |
| cryorat | 1, the amount of the tax is outrageous - this is obvious | 05:46 |
| cryorat | 2, people cannot afford these stuff — they are poor — and some of them uses his/her cavities to smuggle cigarettes for profit | 05:47 |
| cryorat | because smugglers are poor too | 05:47 |
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| japa-fi | Once the price of commodity goes high enough vs. production costs, there will be smugglers. | 05:53 |
| japa-fi | Tobacco | 05:53 |
| entil | which country? | 05:53 |
| japa-fi | Booze (from Estonia/russia to Finland) | 05:53 |
| japa-fi | illegal drugs (almost every coutry) | 05:54 |
| entil | free trade gets rid of smugglers fortunately | 05:54 |
| japa-fi | Eventually the government will cause to second market to form, the one for smuggled, taxfree stuff | 05:54 |
| japa-fi | I don't smoke, so I don't know the prices. Found article from 2008, then a pack of cigarets was 4,6euro | 05:55 |
| entil | i smoke occasioally, additive-free luckies are dift | 05:56 |
| entil | dfjfj | 05:56 |
| entil | dirt-cheap at 5e | 05:56 |
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| entil | most I think cost more and have the additives | 05:57 |
| japa-fi | additives or addictives? | 05:59 |
| entil | additives, tho not really sure what they add.. luckies are smoother than others, so that has to be related | 06:00 |
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| entil | if you want to roll your own, manitous is affordable, but quite strong | 06:00 |
| entil | tho they have an organically grown additive-free brand | 06:01 |
| japa-fi | I've quit 20+ years ago. | 06:01 |
| entil | good | 06:01 |
| japa-fi | The money saved... One can only estimate the amount | 06:01 |
| japa-fi | ... of booze I've been able to by with all that saved money :) | 06:02 |
| entil | doubt I'll ever be all free | 06:02 |
| japa-fi | But seroously: I was hooked, really bad | 06:02 |
| japa-fi | an addict to nicotine | 06:02 |
| entil | not about the money for me but I go easy with it | 06:02 |
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| japa-fi | money is not the issue here either. It's the thing of being addicted. Getting feelings I can't control (=urge to smoke) etc | 06:04 |
| japa-fi | and health in the long run | 06:04 |
| TMavica | topics going | 06:04 |
| TMavica | LOL | 06:04 |
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| entil | it feels nice when you don't overdo it :/ | 06:06 |
| TMavica | finland cigarette should be expensive, so i need bring it myself from Hong Kong | 06:09 |
| kimmoli | just dont bring too much ,,, | 06:12 |
| suosaaski | It seems the tablet is past 1M€ | 06:15 |
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| TMavica_Jolla | kimmoli: ping | 07:16 |
| kimmoli | TMavica_Jolla: bong | 07:17 |
| TMavica_Jolla | if i want buy tohled, can face in face trade? i no address in finland | 07:18 |
| kimmoli | ofc, depends whe you are in finland | 07:18 |
| TMavica_Jolla | Hel | 07:18 |
| kimmoli | whe = when | 07:19 |
| kimmoli | hel is ok | 07:19 |
| TMavica_Jolla | 21/12 - 6/1 Rov, 21/12 - 4/1 HEL | 07:19 |
| TMavica_Jolla | i will go Temp also | 07:20 |
| kimmoli | Temp? mean TRE aka Tampere? | 07:22 |
| TMavica_Jolla | yes. | 07:23 |
| TMavica_Jolla | how many stock u have? | 07:23 |
| kimmoli | 0 | 07:23 |
| kimmoli | waiting for first batch, there are few left. | 07:24 |
| kimmoli | but if you want different color/options that i have in 1st batch, it might just make before you leave | 07:24 |
| kimmoli | TMavica_Jolla: one of each: Black, Blue and Red #toholed (with derp) one Red with text only | 07:25 |
| kimmoli | these are available from first batch | 07:25 |
| TMavica_Jolla | any web site see? tell u later | 07:26 |
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| Pawky | how is one to configure to be able to control what rights android apps do have on a jolla phone? Normally you have droidwall to graphically choose which programs have the rights to do what, and XPrivacy to make sure apps either cannot access certain features or give random bogus info to them to preserve integrity. | 08:17 |
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| Pawky | The sheer idea of bying jolla devices is to get more control as a user, which makes it quite astonishing no one has written a GUI frontend for iptables on the Jolla phone yet... :-/ | 08:20 |
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| Tomo | the CLI probably works just fine for those who are interested ;) | 08:23 |
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| Tomo | Pawky: did you try running those apps on alien-dalvik? | 08:25 |
| Pawky | Tomo: of course it does, but its not the best interface to use on the phone... | 08:25 |
| Pawky | Tomo: yes, and the did not work. | 08:25 |
| Tomo | :( | 08:25 |
| Pawky | or do not work.. | 08:25 |
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| Pawky | Tomo: What is needed is a pure Jolla app to control iptables. | 08:26 |
| Pawky | Normally, on an android, you can just laugh at all privileges even the most basic apps are asking for, and just dissable access. When using Jolla on the other hand, you are just another consumer having all your privacy open to the app world. :-( | 08:28 |
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| Pawky | Am I the only one who prefers privacy, and control over my data? | 08:30 |
| tigeli | Pawky: for what do you need the iptables for? | 08:30 |
| Stskeeps | no, but you're more than welcome to help make the situation better | 08:31 |
| Pawky | Stskeeps: I would, if I was a programmer... | 08:31 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: Jolla is marketing privacy, or is privacy now TMed like soon? | 08:33 |
| Pawky | tigeli: to limit what apps can connect to the internet... but you'r right that might be a bit hard to do on iptables... | 08:33 |
| Pawky | chem|st: exactly! Thats why I am putting this forward | 08:33 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: i'm not sure how to answer that | 08:33 |
| chem|st | Stskeeps: and that is the current problem | 08:34 |
| Stskeeps | chem|st: just that it's an area that we can work together on, that's all | 08:34 |
| tbr | you can ofc prevent apps to make connections using iptables, but then that is not everything | 08:34 |
| chem|st | why is android without further notice able to read my pictures and everything | 08:34 |
| Pawky | tbr: But can you really tell this app, has these rights?... i | 08:35 |
| chem|st | (talking from a user point of view as I can forget about my privacy as I have enough friends not taking proper care of it already) | 08:35 |
| Pawky | chem|st: I am at the other end of that rope, and my friends respect it :-) | 08:36 |
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| tbr | hmmm there is owner-match, not sure if there is something per process | 08:37 |
| Pawky | so, nobody else are annoyed a simple note taking app might get all your contacts, location, etc etc? | 08:37 |
| Pawky | tbr: yeah, hmmm.... | 08:38 |
| tigeli | Pawky: we need something more than android-way of doing things as _nobody_ does nothing else than presses "accept" on those requested permissions | 08:38 |
| meklu | and android has recently begun to hide them too | 08:38 |
| meklu | upon installation | 08:38 |
| Pawky | tigeli: well, I don't... but yes you are probably right. Then again the "yes" pressers will always be doomed, but for us who are not, the only option is to hack things in CLI which is awkward to the least... | 08:39 |
| meklu | even before the latest dummification it hid the less common ones under a 'show more' thing | 08:39 |
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| Pawky | I think droidwall works great on my android tablet | 08:39 |
| tbr | ok, so on pid level, no http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/68956/block-network-access-of-a-process/69017#69017 | 08:39 |
| Pawky | this combined with XPrivace does the job | 08:39 |
| Pawky | tbr: aha... but thats only when you are running the program, and I assume it will get different process id's everytime you restart it. | 08:40 |
| meklu | hmm, apparmor looks interesting now :o | 08:41 |
| Pawky | meklu: :-) | 08:42 |
| Pawky | any ports comming soon? | 08:42 |
| tbr | if people are interested in the topic, I'd recommend to play with all those to learn more about how they can be applied and discuss this. A suitable playground would be nemomobile. | 08:42 |
| tbr | saying "X does Y, so it must be the ultimate solution" at this point would be foolish | 08:43 |
| tigeli | tbr: we don't have CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER enabled | 08:43 |
| tbr | tigeli: yes, that's something that I deliberatly didn't mention either | 08:43 |
| meklu | inb4 selinux ;) | 08:43 |
| tbr | meklu: one of the other options | 08:43 |
| meklu | it might actually make some sense on a mobile device | 08:44 |
| Pawky | :-) | 08:44 |
| tbr | meklu: or SMACK aka MSSFs grandchild, but that would make some people go uncomfortable | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | aka aegis | 08:44 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 08:44 |
| tbr | meklu: well, aosp has it on by default by now IIRC | 08:44 |
| tbr | Stskeeps: that was MSSFs dad, didn't want to mention the one who should not be named | 08:45 |
| tbr | other options could include app containerization, but that's already quite far out | 08:45 |
| Pawky | tbr: like XPrivacy :-) | 08:47 |
| tbr | after a cursory look, clearly no | 08:48 |
| Pawky | Just a simple droidwall would do for starters. | 08:48 |
| meklu | https://www.kernel.org/doc/ols/2010/ols2010-pages-133-146.pdf | 08:48 |
| Pawky | tbr: No? To my knowledge its just extending the android libraries | 08:48 |
| * tbr would rather see it done properly, in cooperation with the community | 08:48 | |
| meklu | that makes it seem like Smack predates MSSF :o | 08:48 |
| Pawky | tbr: fair enough :-) | 08:48 |
| pp_ | :-) | 08:49 |
| pp_ | coworker is now using audit (etc.) to find out whether a given app is actually doing something that should be privileged | 08:49 |
| tbr | meklu: people who worked on MSSF went on to work on SMACK to make it work properly | 08:50 |
| tbr | so while it origins might predate MSSF, it did inherit quite a lot from it | 08:50 |
| meklu | ah, neat | 08:50 |
| Pawky | at least we all seem in agreement there is a need for some control over our data and our installed apps :-) | 08:50 |
| pp_ | "app uses camera" or "uses dbus" | 08:51 |
| Pawky | The current solution isnt good enough... | 08:51 |
| lainwir3d | hi | 08:51 |
| Pawky | yo | 08:52 |
| tbr | well, I'm going to pose this bold thought: _IF_ the community manages to put something forward soon enough, it might just have a chance to be part of "Sailfish 2.0" | 08:52 |
| tbr | The interest from Jolla is obvious to involve the community more | 08:52 |
| tbr | so if we want more privacy and security, we can help make that happen | 08:53 |
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| Pawky | So, Jolla will not promote privacy and security by default? I thought that was exactly its stronghold... | 08:57 |
| Pawky | you can fully controll the OS behind the android | 08:58 |
| tbr | Pawky: I have no idea about their plans. I'm just seeing a clear opportunity for the community to step in and help. | 08:58 |
| tbr | there is no full control in android | 08:58 |
| Pawky | tbr: :-) | 08:58 |
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| Pawky | tbr: no, but full control over the OS running the alien dalvik... | 08:59 |
| tbr | so making such inflamatory statements like "they won't this and that" clearly doesn't help | 08:59 |
| Pawky | tbr: Well, to my knowledge there are a few Jolla employees in this channel, thus its not that far fetched.. | 09:00 |
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| warfare | hi, are there any issues with wpa2? My Jolla is connecting to the network but doesn't get a DHCP answer.. any way to debug this? | 09:09 |
| tbr | WPA2 works fine for me | 09:13 |
| tbr | PSK that is | 09:13 |
| tbr | if you want to do EAP then it gets funky | 09:13 |
| warfare | No, just PSK. | 09:13 |
| tbr | if you have developer mode, then either ssh in or use the terminal to examine the journal | 09:14 |
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| tbr | there are some additional debugging packages and options if you want to venture down connman avenue | 09:15 |
| warfare | I have. | 09:15 |
| tbr | I don't remember them myself, but lorn mentioned them on TJC in one of the discussions | 09:15 |
| tbr | is this consistent or sporadic? | 09:15 |
| warfare | Consistent on one network | 09:15 |
| warfare | At home it works, in the office it doesn't. | 09:16 |
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| tbr | just in case: it's not channel 13? (I don't know of any related problems but who knows...) | 09:17 |
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| warfare | 1, 6 & 11 | 09:19 |
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| tbr | warfare: I'd start with dmesg, then journalctl, then dig deeper into connman and wpa_supplicant. along the way I'd try tcpdump (should be in the mer-tools repo "ssu er mer-tools" | 09:21 |
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| warfare | tbr: thanks! | 09:23 |
| tigeli | warfare: which version of sfos you are running on your device? | 09:24 |
| warfare | tigeli: u9 | 09:25 |
| tigeli | warfare: ok, u9 (at least) has modified dhcp-timers to wait even longer for slow dhcp-server to respond.. so it's not that then | 09:26 |
| tigeli | warfare: I would need connman logs to see what's going on along with the tcpdump | 09:28 |
| warfare | tigeli: sure. :) | 09:29 |
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| chem|st | Pawky: no friends with facebook/hike.in/whatsapp? | 09:35 |
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| warfare | oO connman doesn't get an IP Address, when I start udhcpc on the interface I see a reply but the interface doesn't get configured. | 09:40 |
| warfare | The heck? | 09:40 |
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| Pawky | chem|st: nope, I don't use these kind NSA data collector GUIs | 09:49 |
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| warfare | tigeli: journalctl -u connman.service is sufficient? | 09:49 |
| Pawky | chem|st: did you have any particular idea in mind? | 09:50 |
| tigeli | warfare: install connman-tracing to get the tracing enabled | 09:50 |
| tigeli | warfare: and connman itself has internal dhcp-client | 09:51 |
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| tigeli | warfare: does the interface even get the 169.* (APIPA-address?) assigned | 09:52 |
| tigeli | as connman will assign one when dhcp fails to answer | 09:52 |
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| warfare | tigeli: The interface gets an APIPA address, but something with the dhcp requests is fishy.. | 09:54 |
| warfare | tigeli: https://kilbeggan.fourecks.de/~falk/jolla_dhcp.txt | 09:55 |
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| tigeli | warfare: wondering if this could have anything to do with it (fixed in the upcoming u10) https://github.com/mer-packages/connman/commit/9af5f59a01279b59db3e6346436d92faef56d1b9 | 09:57 |
| lainwir3d | hmmm | 09:57 |
| lainwir3d | I'm hesitating on ordering a tohkbd | 09:57 |
| tigeli | warfare: though.. your dump shows that there is a response :) | 09:57 |
| lainwir3d | really tempting | 09:57 |
| warfare | tigeli: I only get the response when I start udhcpc | 09:58 |
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| warfare | tigeli: I think it is the broadcast flag. The requests from connman have the "broadcast" flag set, the ones from udhcpc haven't. | 09:59 |
| lainwir3d | does the tohkbd price include delivery ? | 09:59 |
| lainwir3d | in europe | 10:00 |
| tigeli | warfare: hmm.. have you run udhcpc during that dump? | 10:00 |
| warfare | yes. | 10:00 |
| tigeli | warfare: ok.. that explains | 10:00 |
| lainwir3d | found my answer, sorry | 10:00 |
| tigeli | so the https://github.com/mer-packages/connman/commit/9af5f59a01279b59db3e6346436d92faef56d1b9 will fix your issue :) | 10:00 |
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| warfare | so, wait for U10 or is there an updated package? ;) | 10:00 |
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| tigeli | warfare: u10, unless you build the connman by yourself | 10:06 |
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| tigeli | I know there's a package on the mer's obs but I can't recommend it because it has other depencies to other fixes | 10:06 |
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| warfare | tigeli: ok, thanks. Any time horizon for U10? | 10:12 |
| tigeli | warfare: "real soon now" | 10:12 |
| warfare | tigeli: so Q2/2015? ;) | 10:12 |
| warfare | tigeli: thanks! | 10:12 |
| lainwir3d | well alright, just "ordered" a tohkbd | 10:14 |
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| Armadillo | ^^ | 10:16 |
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| M4rtinK | yay :) | 10:28 |
| SK_work | http://xkcd.com/1350/ | 10:31 |
| SK_work | (this xkcd is out of context for those who wonder) | 10:33 |
| lainwir3d | haha | 10:34 |
| lainwir3d | "there's a dinosaur at the door" | 10:34 |
| SK_work | :D | 10:35 |
| SK_work | this crowdsourcing idea is pretty neat | 10:36 |
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| chem|st | Pawky: not you, if your friends use them, a single friend is enough to receive porn webseit invitation mail with a discount voucher for your birthday (yes that is a nice birthday present for nerds...) | 10:45 |
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| chem|st | https://together.jolla.com/question/66466/completely-bricked-jolla/ ouch | 11:27 |
| Stskeeps | that is really damned stupid | 11:28 |
| Stskeeps | send it to care, nothing else can save it, even if they had flashable images.. | 11:29 |
| meklu | how can you even manage to do that :O | 11:30 |
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| meklu | that's on the same level as dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda | 11:30 |
| meklu | those operands are really easy to remember the meanings of | 11:30 |
| Stskeeps | basically nuked bootloader, too | 11:31 |
| alx | hello. When speaking about whatsapp and jolla, is it correct that I can install originall whatsapp, but there won't be any contacts? | 11:32 |
| chem|st | meklu: on linux, you may rip out your hardrive from your running system... | 11:33 |
| Nicd- | alx: there might be contacts but it varies | 11:33 |
| Nicd- | for me it found them after a while but it doesn't happen for everyone | 11:33 |
| meklu | chem|st: I once accidentally had my /home drive's SATA cable too loose | 11:33 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: ping | 11:34 |
| meklu | and then I got a ton of I/O errors | 11:34 |
| Armadillo | nazanin pong | 11:34 |
| meklu | I thought the drive was dead but gladly it just wasn't attached very well | 11:34 |
| gogeta | Stskeeps, there is any jtags headers on jphone ? | 11:35 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: with the new update for tasklist, have you done some changes to the 'done,pending and new' groups in the app? | 11:35 |
| chem|st | meklu: I had a broken cable... as soon as I closed the case I had no drive no more, it enumerated when I opened the case... and everything was fine again (running system) | 11:35 |
| Stskeeps | gogeta: no | 11:35 |
| Armadillo | nazanin no, it's only a language update, the fix is still in the works | 11:35 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: yeah, I only saw the chinese language modifications in changelog, that's why I asked. tapping on tasks in those list brings up the remorse timer which in fact does not effect the event | 11:36 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: in previous update tapping on events on those groups didn't do anything afair | 11:36 |
| Armadillo | nazanin oh that sounds if I exchanged some code to this version which souldn't be there | 11:36 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: yeah, that's what I thought! can you test the app now and see if you can also reproduce it? | 11:37 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: for me both on u8 and u9 it behaves the same | 11:37 |
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| alx | Nicd-: ok, I had to read, that development for Mitakuuluu has stopped | 11:38 |
| vio | Hi ! | 11:38 |
| Armadillo | nazanin yes, I'm already installing | 11:38 |
| anYc | Stskeeps: out of curiosity, care@ will then use a similar (proprietary) method to revive the device? | 11:38 |
| Stskeeps | anYc: yes, i don't even have that stuff here at my home office | 11:39 |
| vio | Can someone please provide with a download link for the jolla recover image as mentioned here http://www.jollausers.com/2014/10/files-and-instructions-to-recover-jolla/ | 11:39 |
| vio | please? | 11:39 |
| anYc | Stskeeps: thanks! | 11:39 |
| alx | Nicd-, I had to send my jolla back and until the new arrives I read. Have you done something special to see your contacts? | 11:40 |
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| Armadillo | nazanin same here, that's not ok, please reject this version, I have to cleanup this and push a new version this evening or tomorrow, thanks for reporting :) | 11:41 |
| Nicd- | alx: no, but it was a long time ago. I've been using mitäkuuluu since last winter | 11:41 |
| nazanin | Armadillo: that sounds like a plan :) ok, will reject it now | 11:41 |
| alx | Nicd- but I read, that mitäkuuluu is banned or blocked by whatsapp? | 11:42 |
| Armadillo | nazanin sorry for the additional work :-/ | 11:43 |
| Nicd- | alx: yes, mitäkuuluu users are getting banned. I am assuming I will get banned at some point but then I will just stop using whatsapp | 11:43 |
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| RavenholmDX | Heyo | 13:13 |
| tadzik | We don't go there :o | 13:15 |
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| tadzik | Hello :) | 13:15 |
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| ln- | what's the name of the N9 web browser binary? | 13:34 |
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| RavenholmDX | hey tadzik, what's up? | 13:48 |
| RavenholmDX | (got distracted in work) | 13:48 |
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| tadzik | oh, that's just what I'm doing too :) | 14:13 |
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| RavenholmDX | haha | 14:15 |
| RavenholmDX | I just ordered a Jolla | 14:15 |
| RavenholmDX | should be here this week hopefully | 14:15 |
| tbr | now order the keyboard too :) | 14:16 |
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| RavenholmDX | Thinking about it | 14:16 |
| RavenholmDX | dunno if I'd use it | 14:16 |
| tadzik | I'd rather have a T9 virtual keyboard | 14:17 |
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| tadzik | I should write me one | 14:17 |
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| RavenholmDX | I'm writing an app at the moment | 14:17 |
| RavenholmDX | not a whole lot of silica documentation out there | 14:18 |
| RavenholmDX | mainly going with QT specific docs | 14:18 |
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| tadzik | yeah, I started some shy looking for a prediction API documentation, but I suspect it's either somewhere in nemo or nowhere at all | 14:19 |
| meklu | some of the silica elements even break highlighting in the IDE | 14:19 |
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| RavenholmDX | having trouble at the moment with getting a SilicaListView to call Component.onCompleted() | 14:19 |
| meklu | GlassItems, I'm looking at you ; | 14:19 |
| meklu | ;) | 14:19 |
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| Armadillo | RavenholmDX #sailfishos is the better place for development questions | 14:21 |
| RavenholmDX | wasn't necessarily a question Armadillo, just a status update :P | 14:22 |
| RavenholmDX | but thanks | 14:22 |
| RavenholmDX | I'll check it out | 14:22 |
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| SK_work | RavenholmDX: what's your issue ? | 14:24 |
| SK_work | RavenholmDX: for component.onComplete | 14:24 |
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| SK_work | we should move to #sailfishos too | 14:24 |
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| ar | Hi. I just got an unexpected gift from Jolla - an otherhalf. | 14:53 |
| ggabriel | anything special that you did to get that? :) | 14:54 |
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| Stskeeps | ar: by using the coupon? | 14:54 |
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| ar | Stskeeps: oh, it was said that if you use it completly, you would get an otherhalf? | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | well, something about if somebody uses your coupon you get one, i think.. | 14:55 |
| Stskeeps | i might be wrong | 14:55 |
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| Stskeeps | i'm waiting for mine provided i'm not banned from participating :p | 14:55 |
| ar | hehe | 14:56 |
| ggabriel | so, about this tablet thing | 14:56 |
| ggabriel | what happens when 1.38m is reached? will we read headlines such as "I see your 380k and I raise you 1m more"? | 14:57 |
| japa-fi | eagerly waiting my jolla (purchased on Monday evening from store.jolla.com)... | 14:58 |
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| Stskeeps | ggabriel: we reach 1.38: | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | ? | 14:58 |
| Stskeeps | :P | 14:58 |
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| ggabriel | aside from the obvious ofc | 14:58 |
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| RavenholmDX | japa-fi, me too, ordered yesterday | 15:08 |
| locusf | I'm waiting for my third one :) | 15:08 |
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| japa-fi | I made the 250€ special | 15:11 |
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| chem|st | Stskeeps: "skunkworks" have some eastereggs! devs love eastereggs! | 15:18 |
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| japa-fi | RavenholmDX, Was the price still 250€? | 15:31 |
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| chem|st | oh the "The First One" description was changed... on IGG... | 15:49 |
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| SK_work | ha ? | 15:52 |
| sharpneli | What. There is a list of the first ones? | 15:53 |
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| sharpneli | Ah it's only incoming | 15:57 |
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| sharpneli | I hope we can use handles instead of real names. May "Swagneli" grace the page for an eternity! | 15:57 |
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| chem|st | SK_work: it was a limited number just like from the phones, now it is all perks... | 16:25 |
| chem|st | I am somewhere between 82-182 (82 is when I clicked perk, 182 is when I finished payment) | 16:26 |
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| chem|st | sharpneli: there will be a webpage for the 'ones' | 16:27 |
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| suosaaski | What "ones"? | 16:27 |
| chem|st | the first 'ones' | 16:28 |
| suosaaski | but what about them? The phones? | 16:29 |
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| chem|st | suosaaski: the first ones are extended by all tablet perks now, and Jolla said they will get their own webpage of honour | 16:29 |
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| suosaaski | ah, haven't even seen "the first ones" mentioned with the tablet. | 16:30 |
| suosaaski | Lets just hope that it is not the same as "the only ones" | 16:30 |
| ggabriel | it's in the faq | 16:30 |
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| ggabriel | happy to be exclusive tbh ;) | 16:31 |
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| ggabriel | "look at my jolla tablet; no, you can't have one" | 16:31 |
| ggabriel | cartman marketing strategy | 16:31 |
| sec | On the igg page: *Flexible Funding* | 16:34 |
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| sec | >332% .. Eh he he he | 16:34 |
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| ggabriel | i think flexible funding means that the project gets the money even if they don't reach 100% | 16:35 |
| chem|st | some FAQ page even states that it is limited to 2k devices | 16:36 |
| suosaaski | But they did reach it, so that doesn't matter. | 16:36 |
| ggabriel | lol | 16:36 |
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| chem|st | I just hope the come around with some more hardware features, the OS itself is not that a selling point yet | 16:37 |
| ggabriel | tbh, i don't mind with jolla re number of devices requested as they have already a production contract/deal in place | 16:37 |
| ggabriel | it'll be a matter of more time | 16:37 |
| chem|st | and from a user perspective, current sailfish would make a lovely brick of a tablet... | 16:37 |
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| suosaaski | I would rather have more software features than change of hardware. | 16:38 |
| chem|st | how about both? | 16:38 |
| ggabriel | i don't know what i want hw-wise on a tablet | 16:39 |
| chem|st | seamless integration into homeentertainment includes dlna shared folders CIR, BT-LE, NFC | 16:40 |
| suosaaski | chem|st: yeah well... back in reality with limited resources, I would still rather have better software, the hardware seems nice as far as the specs go. | 16:40 |
| chem|st | yeah then leave the CIR and NFC, but at the current state (apart of some wacky thirdparty apps) sailfish is pretty useless for a tablet | 16:41 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: ummm, some of the things you mention are software | 16:41 |
| ggabriel | dlna sucks over wireless anyway | 16:41 |
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| ggabriel | if you want to watch something of decent quality | 16:42 |
| suosaaski | "sailfish is pretty useless for a tablet", well, all the more reason to put resources on software than hardware :) | 16:42 |
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| ggabriel | but is it useless? | 16:42 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: ? multicast sucks, dlna is not multicast | 16:42 |
| chem|st | suosaaski: sure! | 16:42 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: i mean wireless bandwidth isn't enough for a proper 1080p video | 16:43 |
| suosaaski | I wouldn't call it useless, but there are a bunch of features / apps that would be needed for it. | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | ofc you can compress like netflix/amazon do but, yeah, it isn't the same | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | i admit i don't know what i'll use it for | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | more real estate for terminal | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | is the first thing that comes to mind | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | browsing/reading | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | all that stuff sailfish can do already | 16:43 |
| ggabriel | i'd rather avoid more "apps" | 16:44 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I don't know what your bandwidth is but how about music, pictures...? | 16:44 |
| suosaaski | ggabriel: Bluray video bitrate is maximum of 40Mbps | 16:44 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: yeah, for that it's more than enough | 16:44 |
| suosaaski | Why wouldn't wireless handle it? | 16:44 |
| chem|st | dlna is not limited to 4k movies ;) | 16:44 |
| ggabriel | suosaaski: well, it doesn't, 40Mbps is hard to sustain | 16:45 |
| chem|st | suosaaski: no idea, guess his network is some 16.8kbits modem with an antenna.... | 16:45 |
| ggabriel | have a few wifi enabled devices and you'll see how it just doesn't work | 16:45 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: we have abgn | 16:45 |
| suosaaski | ggabriel: well, might be with weaker wlan aps | 16:45 |
| ggabriel | even with abgn and 5GHz and all that | 16:45 |
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| ggabriel | try to stream a dvd's .vob | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | and then let me know | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | but agree that pics/music is plenty | 16:46 |
| chem|st | I have reliable >80mbit | 16:46 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: ummm, do you have neighbours with wireless devices? | 16:46 |
| chem|st | and how about shared folders and SIP and xmpp and upnp and stuff | 16:47 |
| ggabriel | or maybe i should have said dlna sucks for video when you live in a populated area | 16:47 |
| suosaaski | ggabriel: I currently have... umm... lets see... tv, appletv, chromecast, 3 phones, a laptop, 2 tablets, logitech harmony remote and a media device, all connected to wifi. With no issues. | 16:47 |
| ggabriel | suosaaski: i have no issues either | 16:47 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: I leave my microwave open for a sec when I get home... then I have no wireless neighbours for a while^^ | 16:47 |
| ggabriel | i just can't stream a bd | 16:47 |
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| chem|st | ggabriel: I don's stream 32GB movies... | 16:48 |
| suosaaski | I have tested the speed to be sustainable at 15MB/s to my NAS (when I still had it), which makes it over 100Mbps. | 16:48 |
| chem|st | who does that? | 16:48 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: :) | 16:48 |
| ggabriel | my point about "decent quality" | 16:48 |
| ggabriel | anyway | 16:48 |
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| ggabriel | +1 on the other points, but those are all software | 16:48 |
| ggabriel | suosaaski: was your NAS network connected? | 16:49 |
| chem|st | you know that a third up to half of that is additional content | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | sorry, wired | 16:49 |
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| chem|st | which gets transfered too?! | 16:49 |
| suosaaski | ggabriel: yes, it was connected with ethernet. | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | chem|st: i don't think the quality is the same, but nvm | 16:49 |
| chem|st | and for BD I have a BD player^^ | 16:49 |
| ggabriel | suosaaski: :) i was referring more to transfers of wireless to wireless | 16:49 |
| chem|st | ggabriel: your 10 audio lanes are 1.4GB each | 16:50 |
| suosaaski | Ok, well, I have had no problems that way, either. Currently I just don't have proper devices to test that. | 16:50 |
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| ggabriel | so, in my use case wireless doesn't work with the kind of video i procure | 16:50 |
| chem|st | I need EN 5.1 not EN DTS 8.2, or IT Stereo + DTS + DDS etc | 16:50 |
| ggabriel | but ethernet does | 16:50 |
| chem|st | so lets have eth0-OTG then... | 16:51 |
| ggabriel | ok that's a nice hw upgrade, yeah | 16:51 |
| ggabriel | nice option at least | 16:51 |
| chem|st | ;) | 16:51 |
| chem|st | gtg hunting! | 16:51 |
| ggabriel | nice | 16:51 |
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| sec | Any news on the next update? | 17:01 |
| sec | I read 27th somewhere. Is that correct? | 17:02 |
| ggabriel | where is somewhere? :) | 17:03 |
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| sec | On a thread on tmo | 17:04 |
| ggabriel | ummm | 17:05 |
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| coderus | tmo thread is not official pages, right? :D | 17:11 |
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| ggabriel | not really | 17:17 |
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| Teemu | chem|st: eth0 other half? | 17:34 |
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| Teemu | funny thing is, ell-i cooperative is building ethernet nic + poe pd power supply cards with spi host interface | 17:35 |
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| sec | And here I am building pacakges for my N900 | 17:45 |
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| pdanek | na Diablo 3 je akcia 50% | 17:55 |
| pdanek | mam to kupit? | 17:55 |
| pdanek | aj s datadiskom? | 17:55 |
| pdanek | zacneme novu postavu spolu? | 17:55 |
| pdanek | solo ma to hrat nebavi | 17:55 |
| sec | spasiba | 17:55 |
| ballock | sec: it's Czech, don't blame him for Ukrainian invasion | 17:56 |
| sec | I don't blame people for talking in their own language :P | 17:56 |
| pdanek | ah | 17:56 |
| pdanek | wrong chat :D | 17:56 |
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| pdanek | ballock: It's Slovak btw :D | 17:57 |
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| sec | Same thing, same country +or- 10 years | 17:57 |
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| ballock | well, at least I knew it's not Russian. Nor Polish. | 17:57 |
| ballock | btw, are there 3 cable headset standards> | 17:58 |
| pdanek | yea, although even when we were same country, languages were always antonomous | 17:58 |
| sec | I knew it wasn't Polish, and that's one of the few words in Russian I can't forget so | 17:58 |
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| pdanek | y | 17:58 |
| ballock | I bought a Jabra chill headset, which included a converter | 17:58 |
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| ballock | in Jolla only the speakers worked | 17:59 |
| ballock | in my wife's Scheissung Galaxy Young, either the speakers worked or the microphone (when on converter) | 17:59 |
| ballock | wikipedia says there's just 2 stds, so wtf? | 18:00 |
| tbr | ballock: there are two competing standards | 18:00 |
| tbr | ah, you found it | 18:00 |
| Stskeeps | ballock: ours is the one like the iphone | 18:00 |
| tbr | yeah, Jolla only supports one of them | 18:00 |
| ballock | well, then either it's broken or it doesn't work | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | that does sound a bit awkward .. audio is one of the few things we really have under control | 18:01 |
| ballock | or the voice cancellation feature works too well :) | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | microphone and headphones work fine with my combined sennheiser ihone set | 18:01 |
| Stskeeps | +p | 18:01 |
| ballock | Stskeeps: I am currently researching, it's too weird it wouldn't work on 2 phones | 18:02 |
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| ballock | thanks for the iphone tip, the instructions mention iphone clearly | 18:02 |
| Stskeeps | bad cable? | 18:02 |
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| ballock | brand new set, could have got a defective one, though | 18:03 |
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| Stskeeps | and the plug is all the way in? | 18:03 |
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| ballock | Stskeeps: yup | 18:05 |
| Stskeeps | odd | 18:05 |
| ballock | on Scheissung it was unusable, on Jolla the internal mic took over | 18:05 |
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| Stskeeps | you shouldn't need to use a convertor at least | 18:06 |
| ballock | I'll check my Dell's input, it also has a single jack | 18:06 |
| ballock | if I find a device where it works on, I'll get a step forward, otherwise, I'd blame the cable | 18:07 |
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| ballock | Stskeeps: the converter came with the headset | 18:07 |
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| Stskeeps | ballock: yeah, you shouldn't need to use it, if it's 'iphone' already | 18:08 |
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| ballock | the adapter is for "most Nokia, Samsung & Sony Ericsson phones" | 18:09 |
| Stskeeps | yeah, definately don't use it then | 18:09 |
| ballock | so I guess it's the Nokia standard | 18:09 |
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| entil | it could be credit card issuers use bigint, and thinking about it twice it makes sense but it's kinda harder if space is not an issue | 18:47 |
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| entil | säp | 18:47 |
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| ballock | headset doesn't work in Dell, either. Bad luck, defective. | 18:49 |
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| entil | ps lol @ "scheissung" :D | 18:56 |
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| ballock | entil: it's a common nickname in my neighbourhood :p | 19:16 |
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| pc-fan | i'm curious how the jolla will fit into my pocket, n900 seems to by a lot smaller :D | 20:07 |
| pc-fan | hope it will ship soon | 20:07 |
| _inte_ | the n900 is a lot thicker though | 20:10 |
| _inte_ | for me the jolla fits just fine | 20:10 |
| pc-fan | im excited to be able to try it out^^ | 20:12 |
| salyavin | Jolla fits in my pocket fine. | 20:14 |
| salyavin | My wife misses the so sad low battery sound the n900 made. Lol | 20:15 |
| pc-fan | :D | 20:15 |
| pc-fan | the fact that the jolla is lighter is also great | 20:16 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: steel tohkbd backplate is not steel? | 20:32 |
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| Wnt | coderus: I'm pretty sure it's not real steel :) | 20:37 |
| Wnt | coderus: did you order a TOHOKBD already? | 20:38 |
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| coderus | Wnt: no | 20:40 |
| coderus | i'm still thinking if i would use it :D | 20:41 |
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| coderus | can kimmoli in finland show me hands-on tohkbd prototype? | 20:41 |
| Wnt | I'm not sure if there are any protos for the new one yet | 20:42 |
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| coderus | aw :( | 20:46 |
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| javispedro | I just want no-backplate backplate | 20:51 |
| Wnt | javispedro: take the DIY kit ;) | 20:51 |
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| javispedro | but I do want wazd's layout :) | 20:52 |
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| javispedro | I don't think I've ever expressed my opinion of the tohkbd kickstarter here.... | 20:56 |
| javispedro | It's a fscking dream come true. | 20:56 |
| javispedro | Ship it dammit. | 20:56 |
| javispedro | I mean, friggin number row. | 20:57 |
| * javispedro wants | 20:57 | |
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| javispedro | I should ping them at some point to see if there's the "just plastic" option | 20:59 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: 1. not steel. | 21:03 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: 2. yes. it wont have keypad itself | 21:04 |
| kimmoli | javispedro: backplate, carbon or brushed is closest "plastic" you can get... | 21:05 |
| kimmoli | mean non-wood | 21:05 |
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| javispedro | kimmoli, out of curiosity, I suspect thinness is the reason there's no "just plastic" option? | 21:07 |
| javispedro | I figure just making the keyboard/PCB out of a single plastic piece would be cheaper, but I guess the area where the cover is exactly matches the PCB area | 21:08 |
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| kimmoli | about like that. the pcb there is actually kinda thick to achieve required rigidiness | 21:13 |
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| _inte_ | hello | 21:13 |
| _inte_ | just downloaded the update for patchmanager | 21:13 |
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| _inte_ | or, rather, about to download | 21:13 |
| _inte_ | do i have to unapply all patches again before updating? | 21:13 |
| javispedro | kimmoli, I see, thanks! | 21:14 |
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| kimmoli | SK_work: ^^ | 21:17 |
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| _inte_ | am i really the only person on IRC who has patchmanager applied? | 21:24 |
| _inte_ | wired... | 21:24 |
| _inte_ | :) | 21:25 |
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| nander | Still no update? :( | 21:26 |
| javispedro | ohno, delayed! | 21:27 |
| stephg | shocked | 21:27 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: no keypad? wtf? :) | 21:28 |
| _inte_ | ok i will just unapply them. | 21:31 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: will you get some proto before new year? | 21:37 |
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| _inte_ | mh. now, after unapplying all patches and updating, patchmanager wouldnt start any more | 21:41 |
| _inte_ | blank white screen | 21:41 |
| _inte_ | seems broken | 21:41 |
| * _inte_ really enjoys talking to myself :) | 21:42 | |
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| coderus | _inte_: just ping SK_work and Sfiet_Konstantin | 21:45 |
| _inte_ | SK_work: ping | 21:46 |
| _inte_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: ping | 21:46 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | _inte_: pong | 21:47 |
| _inte_ | :-) | 21:47 |
| _inte_ | thanks | 21:47 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | _inte_: I know this bug will fix | 21:47 |
| _inte_ | I have a problem with patchmanager | 21:47 |
| _inte_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: ah cool | 21:47 |
| _inte_ | so i dont have to opt in for the upcoming update to make it work or something | 21:47 |
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| kimmoli | coderus: https://twitter.com/LiKimmo/status/534802859280576513 ++ https://twitter.com/LiKimmo/status/534786952017756161 | 21:48 |
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| coderus | kimmoli: mm... | 21:53 |
| coderus | let me know if you will get keypad before new year :) | 21:54 |
| kimmoli | agreed | 21:54 |
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| _inte_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: I could open Patchmanager through settings but I still fail to install many patches | 22:04 |
| _inte_ | is this a known bug as well? | 22:04 |
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| Sfiet_Konstantin | _inte_: don't know | 22:14 |
| Sfiet_Konstantin | mind sending (or pasting) /var/log/patchmanager/ausmt.log ? | 22:14 |
| _inte_ | just a second | 22:16 |
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| _inte_ | Sfiet_Konstantin: I dont have any logs | 22:20 |
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| _inte_ | or are they anywhere else? | 22:20 |
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| _inte_ | mh | 22:21 |
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| _inte_ | Skip this patch? [y] | 22:50 |
| _inte_ | 3 out of 3 hunks ignored | 22:50 |
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